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Who comes up with these rules…. the more complicated they make things the more people aren’t going to follow them… look at the rules for the restaurants… nightmare for the guards to implement.
@great gael of Eire: It is the restaurants job to implement the regulations and to protect their customers! If they don’t do this then then they deserve to be closed – fulltime!
Same for pubs when they open. If they can’t abide by the regulations then stay closed. Simple!
@great gael of Eire: The drinks industry lobbyist come up with the plan and simply the government rolls with it. It’s like lobbyist run the country and have the government by the nuts
@Tom Harpur Photography: Nonsense, If that was the case the pubs would have been open weeks ago. This is people’s livelihoods, nobody is forcing anyone into a pub.
@great gael of Eire: and 23 pages of it. They just want to look busy and important, whoever drew up this. And this is voming from someone who is following all the rules.
Government would want to grow a pair and tell nphet to do one. If we woke up in the morning and the powers that be decided they wanted to eradicate road fatalities, we’d all be doing 25 kph on the M50 by midday. Logic flew out the window some time ago and has no intention of returning any time soon. This strategy isn’t working and is only annoying the people it’s meant to protect, which in turn will feed into non compliance thus prolonging all of this. Where’s the balance? I’m buggered if I can find it lately.
@Adrian O’Donnell: you do Eamonn Ryan wants to lower speed limits to 80 mph on motorways
@Ian James Burgess: kph I’d say
@Adrian O’Donnell: 25kpm on the m50 at noon would be an improvement on pre-panic times
Great so we’re going to be nannied. Again, instead of giving the owners the responsibility to manage their business correctly, they are being forced to meet made up rules. The guidelines should be there to insure distancing etc, nothing else.
@Lad: All rules are made up. Time limits are counterintuitive and counterproductive to limiting cases of covid. Better to have 6 people sitting in the same spot for 6 hours than 3 separate locations. They will infect less people and will be far easier to contact trace. Also means less individuals using toilets etc. Local pubs are mini community’s. Keep them that way and manage the clusters efficiently and effectively.
@Thomas Quinn: changing the pub closing times by one hour will do that?
@Lad: Made up rules LOL .
@Lad: After a lifetime of being jammed like a sardine into sauna-like Dublin pubs where you have to bellow to be heard by the person 6 inches from you, I don’t think pub owners *can* be trusted to implement social distancing without clear, enforceable legal guidelines. Half of any weekend evening is spent finding a pub with room to stand, then slowly carving a territory out of the surrounding flesh mountain that’s large enough to hold your group. Somewhere a novel coronavirus is doing cartwheels with anticipation.
City pubs operate on a drinker-per-square-foot basis, they need clear rules and enforcement if they’re going to change.
So many smaller pubs only have bars and no seating areas otherwise, are they to remain shut?. They really are just making things up as they go along and splitting hairs with rules within rules. Its beyond the joke at this stage. They should be just let open at least to see how we get on.
@mark connolly: you no a pub with NO seating ???
@bmul: if you mean no seating other then at the bar, then yes! a few actually.
@mark connolly: really where ?
Could you be arsed going out to face that???
@John Smith: exactly not worth the hassle, pubs are finished
@John Smith: just head out earlier?
@John Smith: They’re very simple rules on the customer’s end of things. I’d worry if someone wasn’t able to follow them
@kevinhassett: You roll over pretty easy there Kev.
@For Goodness Sake: people getting drunk as the night goes on and social distancing goes out the window.Thats what’s so difficult…
The problem is that some people want to go into a pub and pretend there’s no epidemic and act accordingly. I don’t know why they’re imagining that it will all work out if you add a few pints to that scenario.
There are going to be lots of these “leaks” in the coming week until the govt make an announcement next weekend. There are definitely going to be some very unrealistic proposals from nphet who at times are not in touch with reality.
Nightclubs will probably remain closed and bars clearing at 11.30 at weekends will have people looking to go somewhere else and onto house parties.
Why the 11:30 close time though?
@neuromancer: COVID gets ya at 11.31
@neuromancer: nanny state.
@neuromancer: Pizza fully digested?
@neuromancer: The early shutting time is a bit of an inconvenience, but makes sense to avoid intermingling as people get deeper into their drinks, and to give staff time to clean the premises after all customers have left
@neuromancer: why 12mn…why 12.30…why 1am…why anytime…FFS what a silly question.
@Canyon: the point is why not just the same closing time as before Covid? How does closing earlier help reduce the spread of the virus?
@neuromancer: ??? closing time was on 11:30 Mon-Thur anyway.
@Darren McEneaney: staff used to clean up into the early hours(2/3am), now they just finish early with less pay.
Ugh. If they are going to be so strict about still adhering to this that and the other, they should have just trialled this during the summer when numbers were low and there were no schools.
Failte Ireland need to keep their nose out of giving health guidelines and stick to tourism.
12 pubs of Christmas will be fun this year!
Straws and umbrellas? Pretty sure my cosy and welcoming rural pub will not have a problem complying. Why have quiet rural pubs been kept closed in order for urban cocktail bars to be made safe?
I’m picturing masked people sipping Guinness through straws now.
So the house parties will be kicking off after 11-30….U think most people will want head home early on a Saturday night ….some hope
@Jordi Cesc Alba: excuse me but I’ll be straight home at 1130 and well u know it
Why are Failte Ireland acting as advisories to the government on a health matter??
@Angela Lavin: the same failte Ireland who told us to holiday at home while their chairman books a trip to Italy
@Angela Lavin: the same failte Ireland who told us holiday at home while their chairman booked a trip to Italy
@Angela Lavin: Failte Ireland only issue the guidelines as communicated by government, they confirmed this previously
You couldn’t make it up if you tried. Talk about making things complicated.
Throwing everyone out at 11.30pm and then they gather in take aways, on the streets in groups while waiting on taxis, trams or buses… yeah great idea, sure what could go wrong?
Maybe Its just me but I feel the time limit should have been kept and scrapped after a trial period . Ps delighted for the industry that they are getting this lifeline .
Who ever see a drunk keeping any rules.
Just drink at home for feck sake!
@Clurichaun: Most people go out to get away from the house though.
The guy that would normally go out on his own for a few pints, sit at the counter where he knows he will meet someone to strike up a conversation with, or if all else fails, chat with the barman, this would particularly apply to rural pubs, is doomed. Does he sit at a table by himself and hope some other lone guy will want to sit with him ? Just wont be worth going for a pint for some people.
Bit pissed off about the cocktail umbrellas…..
I think the guidelines are fair enough.
The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
I fairly sure that headline should read “daft guidelines”
How and who will enforce this???
Seriously not practical.
Why are Fáilte Ireland drafting the guidelines?
Leave the pubs open and we’ll all have a drink at home
These rules appear to encourage pub crawls where it comes to people from different households…
Complete mess
All rules are made up. Time limits are counterintuitive and counterproductive to limiting cases of covid. Better to have 6 people sitting in the same spot for 6 hours than 3 separate locations. They will infect less people and will be far easier to contact trace. Also means less individuals using toilets etc. Local pubs are mini community’s. Keep them that way and manage the clusters efficiently and effectively.
Can you drink online?
Reasonable conditions to open pubs but keep them closed in Dublin as Dublin is full of disease
@Kevin50: Do one Kevin
Pubs will just open. There will be no 1hr 45mins but take a pub for eg that has alot of regulars (friends) in together on a sat or sunday. Try telling them “lads ye cant all stay together ye have to split between two and 3 tables”. They then try talk and you’re roaring over and back at each other across tables. Pubs will have to hire extra staff for table service.
What’s Failte Ireland got to do with it, he went to hols in Italy
Any actual date yet
So no different from pubs with kitchens. Ok so.
OPEN NIGHTCLUBS!!.
Please don’t micromanage everything. Lets people to have their responsibilities and act by them instead of force everything upon them. Clearly doesn’t work.
We had a lovely cycle today and gone trough so many little villages, all are in their knees because the big boys cant see the forest for the trees. One village had a pub with a shop in it and it had to close because if the regulation around pub. Can someone tell me how many people going to be in that pub? Its in the remote area, so only locals will be in it,madness . All this because if Dublin and other big cities, no offence..
Beer kegs make handy stools for smoking areas with no seating
All reasonable
Only Irish people would try to link opening the pubs to positive mental health lol
@Cynical: you can’t beat a few pints
11.30pm we need babysitting? 12.30 was fine there no nightclubs open! The government really sucks the life of it. Can see many rural pubs not opening here, the measures will require too much effort.
Wrapped straws .. well if that isn’t the final straw!
I’m sorry, why bother opening. That’s not a pub.
@Olan Marten: Pubs were never going to be allowed to open without social distancing. It just couldn’t happen. Why are we in queues 2m apart to get into supermarkets if everyone can cosy up in pubs?
@Mairead Jenkins: if you have 9euro worth of food it’s OK, scientifically
So where the other 101 comments gone. Have I been left on me tod in the bar – again?!
Cocktail umbrellas, the silent killer !
Draft guidelines for having a draft beer
I’m good thanks. Doesn’t sound like much fun.
Never going to happen
So exactly the fLicking same as the pubs that are already open
You would think that the world will end if the pubs do not open
dont be suprise if pubs are shut within a few weeks of opening how are they going to cope with winter
Thats the whole point. Make it as difficult, complicated and uncomfortable as possible and people wont be bothered going out and publicans will break rules and pubs will be opening and closing quicker than an umbrella on a showery day. Everyone will get fed up and pubs will close again. But, hey, not Governments fault, they didnt stop them opening. I think its mad to open anyway, a few drinks in and no one will know what 2mtrs are and will forget not to mix and to wear facemasks.
Absolutely disgraceful..no bloody umbrella..that’s me out.
Ah, there yis are. I was having problems uploading the comments for some reason.
More like daft guidelines….
THAT SHOULD BE FUN
Honestly, I can’t understand what is going on in Ireland anymore. For goodness sakes just open the pubs and everything else and stop with all this nonsense!
@Llewey Byrne: Have you been living under a rock all year? There’s no sense in pretending that an indoor gathering isn’t how the virus spreads. You can’t close the doors on a big crowd, pour drinks and pretend it’s not happening.
Individually wrapped straws for your pleasure.
Ppl don’t be fooled into thinking this is all done because the giver care about you!!! This is just anarasistic power surge for them.. Open the pubs now!!
Either open them or keep them closed but don’t bother wasting our time and the salaries we pay you on making up more bs rules that nobody will follow. I’m sick of reporting the same establishments to the department of health (who don’t care about repeat offenders) and the Gardaí (who have enough to do and should not be policing their local establishments).
This should be labelled ‘Daft Rules’ not Draft ….
Just get on with it before there is total non compliance.
Get Gardai to call into every pub for 5 minutes every night for presence and compliance instead of sitting in the bloody station or a car.
It’s not rocket science.
Great news
Agreed. It’ll hardly be worth going…
In 2016 we celebrated the rise from 1916 what brave Irish men and women done for this country.
2020 in a hundred years from now we look back and laugh at what has become of this country.
Pandemic Rules for coronavirus :
(1)No pubs open unless you have a sandwich in your hand (PMSL)
(2)A of license is a essential (PMSL)
(3)If your not out of the pub at 11:30 coronavirus will kill you 11:31 (PMSL)
Should I continue??
What a laughing stock this country has become seriously at least in a 100 years time when there sitting beside each other in the (PUB) they are going to be pissing themselves because we actually went along with it.
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