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Explainer: What is happening with the possible mass grave of children in Tuam?

We look at how the story has unfolded, and the many, many questions that still remain.

Updated 11.14am

IN THE SPACE of two weeks, the story about a mass grave at a former mother and baby home in Galway has grown from something that was just talked about locally in Tuam to a worldwide news story.

The oh-so-gradual unfolding of the story, beginning in the 1970s with the discovery of multiple skeletons, seemed to take people by surprise. After breaking in the media almost a fortnight ago, it took more than a week before any politician made a comment about it, and it was days before national mainstream outlets covered it.

Here, we look at how the story has unfolded, and all of the many, many questions that still remain.

What is the home at the centre of the controversy? 

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From 1925 until 1961, an order of nuns calls the Bon Secours Sisters ran an institution at this building in Tuam in Co Galway.

The institution was called St Mary’s but was known locally as The Home. Unmarried women in the area who became pregnant were sent there to give birth away from their families, as at the time, having a so-called ‘illegitimate’ child was regarded as shameful.

The babies were then left in the orphanage to be raised by the nuns. Some of them were put up for adoption  - which, some contend, was done without the consent of the parents - while some remained in the care of the nuns.

Some of the poorer women who gave birth were forced to work for the nuns in the institution after they had their child as a way to pay for the service which had been provided to them.

The Home was one of many of its type in Ireland at the time: a social service run by a Catholic religious order which imposed the harsh cultural mores of the time and focused on imposing penance and punishment for what the women had done.

Why is it in the spotlight now? It’s been closed for more than 50 years? 

Simply put, the story spans a long period of time but has only gotten media attention in recent weeks.

Let’s start with the event at the centre of the story: In 1975, fourteen years after The Home had closed down, two young boys called Frannie Hopkins and Barry Sweeney were playing in a field where the building had once stood.

Probe into mother and baby homes Niall Carson / PA Wire Niall Carson / PA Wire / PA Wire

The boys discovered some concrete slabs loosely covering a hollow. They moved the concrete and discovered a hole which, Frannie Hopkins has described as being “full of skeletons… of children”.

In a recent interview, Frannie said that his parents told him that a local priest had said a mass at the site and the grave was then covered over again. There was no investigation of any kind into who was buried there and what had happened to them.

Local people knew that the area had served as some kind of graveyard for children in The Home, and a local couple began to take care of it, erecting a grotto in the corner and maintaining it.

Probe into mother and baby homes Niall Carson / PA Wire Niall Carson / PA Wire / PA Wire

And so why is it making the news now? 

A committee of local historians began a campaign to raise money for a proper memorial at the site, which led one of them, Catherine Corless to do more research on who exactly was buried there.

As the fundraising appeal began, the story appeared in two local newspapers – the Tuam Herald and the Connacht Tribune – last October.

Probe into mother and baby homes Catherine Corless Niall Carson / PA Wire Niall Carson / PA Wire / PA Wire

However it only really began to gain attention when The Irish Mail on Sunday ran it as a front page story on Sunday 25 May, focusing on the mass grave rather than the fundraising appeal.

The paper ran an interview with Catherine Corless in which she detailed her work and research methods.

What did Catherine Corless find? 

It took a long time, but Catherine Corless methodically researched what happened to children who died there.

She requested the death certificates for all of the children who died at The Home during its 36 years and, after being passed from office to office, was given a list of 796 children from the State agency who kept the records.

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“Eventually I had to contact the registry office in Galway,” she told IrishCentral.

A week later [my contact there] got back to me and said ‘do you really want all of these deaths?’ I said I do. She told me I would be charged for each record. Then she asked me did I realise the enormity of the numbers of deaths there?

The children ranged from newborns up to the age of nine years old and the records show they died from a variety of illnesses.

Catherine Corless then began to cross-reference the list to see if any of the children were buried in local cemeteries. A Galway County Council archivist told her that none of the names appeared in any nearby cemetery.

Catherine managed to get a map of The Home back from when it was a workhouse in the late 19th and early 20th century. By overlaying a map of the site as it looks today, she discovered that the place where the bones were discovered by the two boys in 1975 correlated exactly with where a sewage tank had been located during the building’s workhouse days. The tank had been put out of use in the 1930s when it stopped working.

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As a result, Catherine concluded that the 796 children were likely to have been buried at the site on the grounds of The Home.

Is there any kind of gravestone to mark this? 

No. From the evidence presented by Catherine Corless and Frannie Hopkins, it would seem that the children was placed into the ground, that coffins were not used to bury them, and that there was no gravestone.

So 796 children definitely died at The Home – we know that because there are State records. But how do we know that they were buried in the former sewage tank? 

We don’t. The only record of the skeletons being seen was in 1975 when the two boys discovered them. The skeletons were not counted and the area has not been dug up since.

Tuam mother and baby home infant death Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

However, Catherine Corless says the evidence points to only one answer. “Where would they be if they’re not in that pit? Have they just vanished into thin air?”

Were some children at Mother and Baby Homes used for medical research? 

This is a contentious issue. There was some evidence that the bodies of some children from Mother and Baby Homes were given to anatomy departments in Irish universities for medical research. A Prime Time documentary from three years ago covered this issue.

If this did happen – and there’s no evidence either way as of yet – then it could explain what happened to some of the 796 children.

How did the children die? Were they killed? Poorly treated? Died naturally? 

Some of the certificates Catherine Corless received showed the cause of death for the children mainly involved illnesses – such as measles and gastroenteritis which spread quickly in the cramped conditions – or malnutrition.

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What about the reports of medical trials carried out on the children? 

A researcher at UCC has found evidence that more than 3,000 children in 24 residential institutions were subjected to experimental vaccine trials in the 1930s. Historian Michael Dwyer said no record of the trials can be found in Government files from the time, but  that the details instead were published in medical journals. 

“This suggests that vaccine trials would not have been acceptable to government, municipal authorities or the general public,” he said.

However the fact that reports of these trials were published in the most prestigious medical journals suggest that this type of human experimentation was largely accepted by medical practitioners and facilitated by authorities in charge of children’s residential institutions.

Given the seriousness of the issue,  Government Minister Kathleen Lynch has said that the vaccine trials should form part of any forthcoming inquiry.

Was the mortality rate really that much higher at The Home than for other children? 

An average of 22 children died every year at The Home, meaning one died every 2.3 weeks on average. This rate is significantly higher than Ireland’s infant mortality rates at the time.

A Dáil debate in 1934 noted that one in three children who were born outside of marriage died within one year of their birth – a rate which was about five times higher than for other children.

“From the abnormally high death rate amongst this class of children one must come to the conclusion that they are not looked after with the same care and attention as that given to ordinary children,” Fianna Fáil TD Dr Conn Ward told the Dáil.

Probe into mother and baby homes Members of the Tuam Home Graveyard Committee Niall Carson / PA Wire Niall Carson / PA Wire / PA Wire

What do the nuns involved have to say? 

The Bon Secours nuns released a statement through a PR company on Thursday.

In it, they said that they were “shocked and deeply saddened” about the reports, and said that they would co-operate with plans for a memorial. They stressed that the records were all handed over to the local authority – now within the HSE – when The Home closed in 1961.

The statement was notable in that it did not confirm or deny the existence of the mass grave – in fact, it didn’t give any detail at all about it.

Did the State know about it? 

The excellent researcher behind the @Limerick1914 Twitter account found contemporaneous reports that the Bon Secours nuns were paid £2,800 per year by the State in 1927 to look after the mothers and children in The Home.

The children also attended local schools, where they were segregated from other students, and would have been treated by local medical staff.

So is there a garda investigation? 

Good question. The Minister for Justice Frances Fitzgerald has ordered a report from An Garda Síochána about how much information it has about the mass grave allegation.

So that’s a good first step, isn’t it? 

Some would say that the Minister had to step in. For more than one week, the gardaí had repeatedly said that there was nothing for them to investigate.

CNN summed up the confusion well, quoting a garda press officer who said there was nothing to suggest any impropriety.

The repeated we-know-nothing stance by the gardaí is especially strange given that the original article in the Irish Mail on Sunday reported that the family of one of the children who died at the home had already reported it to the gardaí.

When a reporter from TheJournal.ie asked them last week about this, the gardaí simply never responded.

It is possible that the gardaí were confused by this excavation of a site near The Home which found the bodies of 48 famine victims who had been buried there.

So is there an inquiry? An investigation?

The newly-appointed Minister for Children Charlie Flanagan has said that a number of Government departments are carrying out a review to work out how best to investigate the matter.

Dail Returns From Summer Holidays Eamonn Farrell / Photocall Ireland Eamonn Farrell / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

It is most likely that this will lead to a statutory inquiry into Tuam, and possibly into other Mother and Baby homes.

Is there any chance that this could be a one-off? 

No. UCD historian Lindsey Earner-Byrne who has researched this area extensively has said that Tuam was not exceptional.

“That 800 number will be replicated, and [be] higher in other homes,” she said on RTE.

She said she was surprised by the mass grave but not by the numbers, noting that all the mother-and-baby homes shared the common trait of very high infant mortality rates, “significantly higher than the mortality rates for ‘legitimate’ babies”.

In her book, she noted the death rates at some of these unmarried mother’s homes:

  • Bessboro home in Cork had an infant mortality rate of 61 per cent in 1943
  • Shan Ross Abbey in Roscrea had a rate of 35 per cent in the same year
  • The Home in Tuam had a rate of 35 per cent in the same year

What happened to The Home? 

When the home closed in 1961, many of the children were moved to industrial schools around the country.

The building itself was bulldozed and a housing estate now stands in its place.

Tuam mother and baby home infant death Local author JP Rodgers, who lived at the home until he was fostered at the age of 6, at the grotto. Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

Meanwhile, the fundraising efforts are continuing by the committee of local historians. Speaking to TheJournal.ie last week, Catherine Corless said she was surprised how long it had taken for people to talk about the discovery.

“People don’t seem shocked, I don’t understand,” she said.

“If two children were discovered in an unmarked grave, the news would be everywhere. We have almost 800 here”.

This article was originally published at 8.15am on Saturday 7 June. 

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    Who cares who’s “the greatest”, tyson was great inside the ring as was Ali. Ali had the addition of civil rights campaigning which played a big role during Vietnam and the likes. Don’t pit two greats against eachother just appreciate both of them

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    Alan, cop yourself on. He’s accepted as the greatest professional boxer to ever wear gloves by anyone with an iota of knowledge of boxing. He entertained anyone who watched him fight or even speak during an interview and to top it off, he was a black man, which, at the time, was an incredible feat. So yeah, I’m pretty sure he would say it was all worth it! What have you done with your life?

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    I was never much of a boxing fan but I was in awe of Muhammad Ali. As a kid I used to love watching his fights and always looked forward to the interviews afterwards. Not only was he the greatest boxer of all time but he was so intelligent and witty he could have been a great writer had he not been struck down by Parkinson’s.I do not think it’s an exaggeration to say that he was the greatest sportsman of the 20th Century. He was certainly the most famous. Rest in Peace Ali, you will always be the greatest in my eyes.

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    I thinks it’s “the will has to be stronger than the skill” . Again, I think….

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    In the ring and out he really was the Greatest.

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    RIP. The greatest of them all.

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    Keep fighting till the end , I hope his passing was as sweet as my memories of him are . Rip god speed

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    Rest in peace champ.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:09 AM

    Another great legend has left us. RIP

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:27 AM

    Exactly. Noticed a few lines from McGregor that I read in Ali biographies.

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    To mention McGregor in the same sentence as Ali would be insulting to his memory.

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    He truly was the greatest.We will never see hus like again.Rest in peace.

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    A revolutionary and an inspiration, Slán leat Ali. RIP

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:19 AM

    This is the story of cassius clay The most beautiful fighter in the world today He talks a great deal And brags indeedy Of a muscular punch That’s incredibly speedy The boxing world was dull and weary With a champ like liston Things had to be dreary Then someone with colour Someone with dash Brought fight fans a running with cash This brash young boxer is something to see And the heavyweight championship is his destiny

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    R.I.P to an absolute Legend. Thank you for all the entertainment both inside and outside the ring.

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    God Bless him a true Legend R.I.P

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    An inspiration to so many people in so many ways..RIP champ…

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:01 AM

    You can certainly tell from the comments here what affection people have for him. Looking back at the old interviews the humour, warmth and charisma is unmatched. Because of that though I think people give him a pass for stuff. The article above says he was an opponent of racism, yet in the same paragraph mentions that he wanted a separation of black and white people? That’s surely racism, though in the context of growing up black in the south, the anger was understandable.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:09 AM

    Also, his treatment of Joe frazier was terrible in the lead up to the manila fight. He made many racially references to his appearance, while simultaneously calling him an uncle Tom. This affected frazier and his family directly. I saw a frazier doc once when frazier was asked about this and he thought it was payback for the kindness that he had shown Ali when he was banned. Ali was a beautiful, compassionate human, but also had his faults.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:40 AM

    Well said.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:47 AM

    No doubt he held racist views, Michael Parkinson who interviewed him several times described him as racist just recently. But it has to be acknowledged that he was in very many ways a great man. He actually admitted to feeling bad in later years for the way he treated some of his opponents during his career, even going so far as to speculate that his illness might be a god-sent punishment for past misdemeanours.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:13 AM

    “Ali Bom-by-eh”

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:30 AM

    He was also a member of the Nation of Islam and spewed out some very racist comments. He was not the shining light everyone makes him out to be.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:43 AM

    Eveyone was racist in 60s America. He joined NOI because of the racism that he witnessed against his own people and against him personally. As he said himself and he was right, at the time…
    Boxing is a lot of white men watching two black men beat each other up.

    He truly was the greatest.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:17 AM

    Spot on, Sean.

    Today is one of those sad days when the world is a little worse off. RIP.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 10:29 AM

    . So would you if you had NEGRO stamped on your birth certificate. Ifts called been human fighting for ones rights as a human.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 12:21 PM

    Its easy to parse his comments in a 21st century European mindset and come to that conclusion. But remember that racism was rife in America in that era. Even activist Ministers like Malcom X were slow to come to the view that unity was the way forward.

    His comment about his refusal to fight in Vietnam said it all: ‘I Ain’t Got No Quarrel With The VietCong…No VietCong Ever Called Me Ni**er.’

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    Jun 4th 2016, 6:44 AM

    The best of the best

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    Jun 4th 2016, 6:42 AM

    Truly the greatest. Rip

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:07 AM

    The greatest and most charismatic sportsman that ever lived. The last true sporting living legend has left the building.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 6:52 AM

    Rip, a true sporting icon and legend

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    Jun 4th 2016, 6:47 AM

    Legend

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    Jun 4th 2016, 10:03 AM

    Another legend gone in 2016 including my own father last week who was a legend.in his own circle. Of kungfu master wally h dillon. Rest in power Muhammed.!

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    Jun 4th 2016, 6:31 AM

    Fight like a butterfly, sting like a bee. RIP Ali

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    Jun 4th 2016, 6:49 AM

    You had one job

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    Jun 4th 2016, 6:56 AM

    Sorry meant to say float like a butterfly!

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    Jun 4th 2016, 6:57 AM

    Eh???

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:02 AM

    A legend. Anyone else have those toy puppet boxers as kids, when boxing then was in its hay day? A relative met him when he came to visit Croke Park..shook hands saying ‘Shake the hand that shook the world’

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:13 AM

    Stands head and shoulders above them all, RIP

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:12 AM

    Couldn’t agree more. He single handedly showed and broadened what sport could achieve emotionally and commercially. What a presence. He will be truly missed.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:15 AM

    Rip
    Ali .. Heroes are remembered legends live forever

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    Jun 4th 2016, 6:38 AM

    “Muhammad Ali……Did you know he met me once?”

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    Jun 4th 2016, 6:44 AM

    “Clough I have had enough” legend.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:24 AM

    Of all the dead he is the latest.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:02 AM

    What a legend now Ali is Safe in the arms of Jesus

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:26 AM

    Ali didn’t pray to Jesus yah nob.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:29 AM

    Have some respect.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:18 AM

    Except Jesus is revered by Muslims.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:33 AM

    Fair comment.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 1:10 PM

    It’s still all bollocks tho’.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 1:29 PM

    Hun stop calling yourself names your letting yourself down here.

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    Mute Meehawwl O'Buachailla
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    Jun 4th 2016, 1:48 PM

    Jesus was a racist.

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    Jun 5th 2016, 1:12 AM

    Sure he was a Christian before he turned Muslim. Gone but not forgotten.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:08 AM

    Never again will we see his like. 2016 will for many be known as the year we lost legends. Today we lost the greatest legend of them all. Really sad to hear this news this morning. RIP

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:18 AM

    Honestly to me the greatest sportsman of them all. He raised the bar for all sport, showed what it could achieve, emotionally and commercially. That coupled with a brilliant mind. Very rare, he will be truly missed.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:29 AM

    Sad to lose a great boxer but everybody knows the man was a horrible racist but somehow they don’t want to recognise that fact. Watch the video to the end.

    https://youtu.be/HqiWFLsgVi4

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:46 AM

    Stay quiet white devil

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:16 AM

    Calling out white supremacists doesnt make him racist.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 10:21 AM

    Here look pal if your birth certificate had NEGRO stamped on it you would have something to fight the power about too.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 1:15 PM

    If you grew up in Kentucky in the 1940′s as a black person I’m sure you’d have different views on race too.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 2:37 PM

    “Hating people because of their color is wrong. And it doesn’t matter which color does the hating. It’s just plain wrong.” – Muhammad Ali.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 3:20 PM

    Yes Les and Ali decreed that because some white people were not racists didn’t mean that white people in general weren’t racist. That sounds pretty much like hatred for white people.

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    Jun 5th 2016, 1:26 AM

    Pathetic. The man was a racist and no better than Donald Trump. His hatred for white people is down in black and white but hey, it’s cool to like Cassius Clay.

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    Jun 5th 2016, 1:39 AM

    Watch the video to the end. If a white person held the same views they’d be buried alive! But it’s ok for a black person to say such things??? Do one!

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:42 AM

    The term Legend is bandied about with little respect these days but Ali is one of the few true Legends. #TheGreatest.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 11:01 AM

    A legend, icon and hero to a generation, I’ve so many memories of watching his fights with my Dad from a stack of VHS tapes we had at home.

    Rip to ‘The Greatest’

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:17 AM

    Decent boxer, but he wouldn’t have lasted one round with Mike Tyson who is truly the greatest!

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:02 AM

    You seem to be very fond of Tyson, John. Shall we forget the whole rape conviction thing then? Ali was a great fighter but also a great man.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:39 AM

    Dead right Joe. Tyson was a brute and an animal. He used his tremendous power to win his fights. Ali in his hey day we would have dodged those heavy punches and picked him off with jabs until he wore him down.

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    Jun 5th 2016, 1:23 AM

    You’re all forgetting that Cassius Clay was a serial adulterer….

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:25 AM

    RIP champ

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:57 AM

    My sports hero died today. Simply the Greatest ever
    Set the alarm as a kid in the 70′s to watch his fights in TV
    RIP Muhammad Ali

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:19 AM

    An unforgettable year for superstar deaths continues. RIP Ali

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:46 AM

    In the movie when we were kings a journalist told Ali the shortest poem ever written was two words, Adam had’m. Ali thought for a second and replies ” me oui”. Long live the greatest.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:44 AM

    Simply ” The Greatest” R.I.P.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:35 AM

    A true legend,best quotes,he just simply knew he was the greatest of them all.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:21 AM

    RIP

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:40 AM

    I know where I’m going and I know the truth, and I don’t have to be what you want me to be. I’m free to be what I want.

    – The greatest of all time

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:23 AM

    RIP to a true legend

    Heartbroken here

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:09 AM

    Enjoy the rest Champ !

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:50 AM

    And his mother an O’Grady from Ennis. RIP

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:23 AM

    Sure it was his great grandfather that was an o grady from ennis not his mother .

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    Jun 4th 2016, 10:26 PM

    0 Grades for your research Mark : )

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:44 AM

    Boxing made him a champ but I wonder did it also destroy him at the end …..so many blows to the head over the years I guess didnt help …… I read somewhere that a traumatic blow to the head which causes injury to the brain can offset parkinsons in later years but I guess scientists are still trying to find out if there is a connection.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:34 AM

    What a champ he fought the good fight to the very end, left the ring, can rest in peace and I hope he is “floating like a butterfly” wherever he is…..no need to sting like a bee anymore. Good on ya Ali

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:07 AM

    It was definitely as a result of taking the heavy punches to the head that triggered his parkinsons disease.there can be no doubt.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 10:01 AM

    Icon , legend , champion , these words get thrown around rather easily but they are nearly an insult to this guy. His talent was as such that it conquered , religious , class and race divides and that’s some achievement.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:22 AM

    “THE GREATEST”

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:53 AM

    Legend is an understatement . .R.I.P

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:08 AM

    “To be a great champion you must believe you are the best. If you’re not, pretend you are”

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:52 AM

    The Greatest

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:10 AM

    The greatest by a mile

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    Jun 4th 2016, 10:00 AM

    Rest in peace a truly champion and lovely man…

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    Jun 4th 2016, 12:16 PM

    what do you think of the new rules regarding ring size Ali?
    I don’t care how small the ring is il fight that chomp in a telephone box!

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    Jun 4th 2016, 1:12 PM

    I as an Ali fan in my younger days but his “greatness” has been tempered in my mind by the way he treated Joe Frazier. Frazier helped him with moral and financial support to regain his license after he was stripped of his license for his Vietnam war stance.

    And how did Ali repay him, by calling him a gorilla and an Uncle Tom. In many people’s view, including mine, Frazier won the Manila fight, only to be let down, possibly for his own good, by his corner. Frazier wanted to fight on while Ali was ready to quit.

    His treatment of Frazier shows a very dark side to his character belied by his intellect and charisma. Sure he was a great fighter but was never the “Greatest”.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 10:51 AM

    He really was the greatest sportsman there ever has been ,the purest might say there were better boxers but he has so much else that made him the greatest ,
    entertainment,intelligence,believes,charismatic, confidence,respect I could go on all day
    RIP

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:58 AM

    Jesus he could box !! Gona watch full box set , fairwell legend x

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:26 AM

    A truly incredible person. Rest in peace.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:23 AM

    The man who made Islam popular in the West.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 12:36 PM

    RIP. I remember climbing over the walls of Croke Park when he fought there (1972) to watch him fight. Got a hole in my new jeans on barbed wire but it was worth it. A true gentleman.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 10:04 AM

    A legend inside the ring and outside the ring. Rest easy champ.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:01 AM

    God; its scary, all the great legends disappearing. He really was the greatest.rest in peace .

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    Jun 4th 2016, 7:34 AM

    Always remember meeting him when I was knee high to a grasshopper, when he visited Ireland. A big gental giant. He lived the Irish.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:42 AM

    RIP…a true LEGEND.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:34 AM

    “But continued on in public life until recent years” was he supposed to hide because he had Parkinson’s?

    Such a fantastic role model RIP.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 10:39 AM

    That stick ya have in yer hand there Erin,…..well…………ya have the wrong end of it.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:09 AM

    The last of the great legends

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    Jun 4th 2016, 8:18 AM

    The greatest , rest easy

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    Jun 4th 2016, 2:28 PM

    And the same people lauding Ali today will be back to vilifying muslims tomorrow… or probably later today, depending on what news breaks.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 1:32 PM

    He had skill, speed and confidence in the ring, a fantastic sports man. But it was his use of words and massive charisma that made the world love him. A cultural icon that will never be equalled.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:40 AM

    Float Like an Angel Sting Like A Bee R.I.P #LEGEND

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    Jun 4th 2016, 11:33 AM

    Actually it was after Ali’s third fight with Joe Frazier, in 1975, that Ali said it was as close to death as he had come, according to a Sports Illustrated article written shortly after the Thrilla in Manila. RIP, Muhammad Ali.

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    Jun 4th 2016, 9:39 AM

    A lptand I mean a lot of ignorant muppits in this bye

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