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Review finds surgeons did not report women's vaginal mesh complications to watchdog

The HSE has suspended the use of these medical devices pending the outcome of a report from the Chief Medical Officer.

IRELAND’S HEALTH WATCHDOG has not received any notifications from surgeons about issues with vaginal mesh implants, despite reports of serious complications by some women who had these procedures.

The watchdog has received 76 reports in total about these devices, but all of these were from members of the public, TheJournal.ie can reveal. Surgeons working in this area have said the Health and Products Regulatory Authority’s guidelines recommend reporting of incidents involving a medical device which might have led to the death of a patient or to serious deterioration in their state of health – particularly if the frequency of complications is higher than expected.

A representative group for the surgeons has said its members, therefore, will not have submitted reports as the rate of serious complications they were seeing among their patients was not higher than the expected rate deduced from prior studies.  

However, in July this year, Minister for Health Simon Harris announced that the HSE had been directed to stop the use of all procedures involving vaginal mesh devices in public hospitals. This pause covers the management of stress urinary incontinence (SUI) and pelvic organ prolapse (POP), two conditions women can suffer after natural childbirth or in their later years.

The mesh devices, usually in the form of a thin tape, are made with polypropylene and are designed to strengthen the surrounding muscle and tissue, as it grows into and around the device.

In recent years women in several countries, including the US, Australia, the UK and other European countries, have reported painful complications after their procedures. The device can break up inside the body and move, embedding itself in other organs or tissue – in some cases poking or cutting through the vaginal wall.

Irish women have reported suffering chronic pain and recurrent infections for a number of years and some have had to have multiple surgeries to try to remove the device. Because of how the implant works, these removal procedures – many of which women have had to travel to the UK for – are complicated and have been described by surgeons as “like taking hair out of chewing gum”. 

Now it has emerged that despite complications reported by women to their doctors and follow-up treatment – including surgeries – they required, not one clinician in the country notified the Health and Products Regulatory Authority (HPRA). 

This was revealed in documents released by the Department of Health to TheJournal.ie through a Freedom of Information request. 

Investigations

In November last year, Minister Harris asked the Chief Medical Officer (CMO) to compile a report on the use of these medical devices.

In a briefing note to the minister in May, before the CMO Tony Holohan requested the suspension, his office outlined a number of preliminary findings from his scoping review. One of these findings was that 76 reports in relation to these devices had been made to the HPRA, “all from members of the public”. 

“No reports have been received from implanting surgeons to date,” it noted. 

Reporting issues or concerns to the HPRA is through a voluntary system, but the watchdog says increased levels of reporting from healthcare professionals “may help in the early detection of adverse trends or safety issues”.

In response to a query about the lack of reporting by clinicians, Dr Susmita Sarma, president of the Continence Foundation of Ireland said:

“The mid-urethral sling was developed in the 1990s to treat female stress incontinence and has been extensively researched with over 2000s papers published in this time. The known complications of mesh erosion and mesh extrusion have been well documented with a rate of 4% in these papers.

The HPRA in the guidelines recommends reporting ‘any incident which has occurred during use of the medical device which might lead to or might have led to the death of a patient, or user or of other persons or to a serious deterioration in their state of health’.

“Whilst reporting is encouraged by the HPRA especially if the frequency of serious complications is above the expected reported rate, if an individual consultant was not experiencing an increased erosion rate above the expected reported rate, there would not be an indication to report same.”

Sarma said the foundation’s “evidence based” position on the use of these procedures is that “alternative surgical treatments, which date back 60 years, are more invasive procedures associated with more complications and are less effective”.

She said the same nonabsorbable material is used in some of these older procedures.

Our goal is to provide holistic care for informed women and give them the choice. Once governance issues relating to TVTs have been resolved we aim to return to providing what medical evidence has repeatedly found to be the safest and most effective treatment for women with stress incontinence. This country has recently voted that women’s choice is paramount. This is also the opinion of the Continence Foundation of Ireland.

‘Sexual, bladder and bowel difficulties’

The memo to the minister also revealed representations have been made to the Department of Health by more than 40 women in relation to mesh-associated complications. 

“Several of these women have reported significant complications affecting their quality of life following mesh surgery including pain, incontinence and erosion of mesh causing sexual, bladder and bowel difficulties. Women have also reported difficulties in accessing appropriate aftercare for complications.”

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Melanie Power, founder of the Mesh Survivors Ireland group and a solicitor who represents around 100 women taking legal action over complications, said the majority of women she has spoken to claim their doctors never mentioned the possible serious complications before their surgeries. 

Many of those affected have also said their issues post-surgery were dismissed by their doctors.

“The standard thing is ‘your problems aren’t mesh related, it’s the menopause’ and that could be someone who went through the menopause 10 years beforehand. 

Another that has been said quite a few times is ‘you need to break through the pain barrier’, like a professional athlete. That was in relation to sex: ‘If you’re having painful sex, the need to break through the pain barrier.’ I heard that a few times from three or four different people.
They were told they need to manage their pain – as if pain is something that is acceptable. People were being discharged from clinics with undiagnosed pelvic pain, left with nowhere to go but down the pain management route. Life as they know it is never going to be the same because they’re completely out of it. 

Power said when news reports about mesh complications first appeared, some women spoke to their doctors about them. 

“They were told ‘don’t believe what you read in the media’ or ‘the mesh in the news is not the mesh you have’, and in all cases it was the same mesh.”

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She pointed out that while there is no mandatory obligation on clinicians to report complications to the HPRA, they are required to report issues to the HSE’s National Incident Management System (Nims). 

“I did a Freedom of Information request myself last year and by November 2017 there were only two incidents reported to Nims.”

There are over 400 women in the Mesh Survivors Ireland support group with Power saying it is still growing. She said rebuilding the trust between impacted women and their doctors will one of the main challenges now. 

“I have heard the things they have said to these women and it’s disgusting but for all the wrongs they have done, they are the ones with the expertise and they have to be the people who save these women at the end of the day,” she said. 

We went from a situation where we were told there was no need for anyone in the country to have full removal and that the HSE had no knowledge of anyone with the specialism to do full removal surgeries. Consultants were telling women they couldn’t do it. When the situation here changed, those very same clinicians were telling women they were able to do full removals. 

“They need to be honest now and acknowledge that they need to engage in further training and rebuild the relationships with their patients.”

Paternalistic

Last week, Dr Gabriel Scally, who lead a scoping inquiry into the CervicalCheck scandal  said there was a need for the health system to review its attitude towards women’s health issues.

In speaking with women and families affected by the scandal, Scally said one key point that surfaced was the paternalism in the healthcare system. Some of the comments from women featured in the report include:

Why does it always happen to women?
I think there is a history of looking at women’s health services as being secondary.
Women and women’s rights are not taken seriously.

There were also examples of clinicians dismissing or downplaying the gravity of failing to disclose the findings of the CervicalCheck audit to women.

Speaking at the launch of the review Scally described how the family of one woman, who is deceased, was told “nuns don’t get cervical cancer”. That the same consultant highlighted the woman had been a smoker multiple times during the meeting. 

“It’s verging on misogyny,” Scally said of those comments. Another woman was told by her consultant that he “had seen I had had a hysterectomy and decided I didn’t need to know”.

One of the recommendations in Dr Scally’s report was that the health minister give consideration to how women’s issues can be given “more consistent, expert, and committed attention” within the health system. He also said a new emphasis must be placed on the candour with which healthcare professionals speak to their patients.

Disputed figures

The CMO’s briefing document into the use of vaginal mesh devices acknowledges mesh can be “difficult to remove because mesh devices are designed to be permanently implanted”. 

 ”All synthetic meshes are associated with some risk of mesh erosion, reported in some research studies to occur in 4% of SUI procedures and 4-19% of POP procedures. 

However these figures have been disputed as there is a recognised lack internationally of comprehensive long-term, follow-up data. Also, some of the complications women are reporting occurring several years after the implant may be difficult to distinguish from evolving symptoms of the underlying disease.

According to the interim findings, the evidence continues to support the use of current vaginal mesh devices in Ireland in appropriate cases when done by trained personnel.

However there are a number of deficiencies in the system, including

  • There is no set description for consultants of what constitutes appropriate patient selection, appropriately trained personnel, or appropriate facilities;
  • There are also no systematic approaches in place to make sure patients have the full information about risks and complications before they give their consent;
  • No information is collected about patient outcomes;
  • There are no agreed treatment pathways for women who suffer complications.

One of the principal challenges in compiling the report has been “poor quality of data available to measure and describe the extent of the problem”.

Data is lacking at national level as to the total number of women who have received mesh implants or the numbers of women who have had or are awaiting mesh removal procedures.

Urgent recommendations

Writing to John Connaghan, acting director general of the HSE in July, CMO Tony Holohan requested an immediate pause of all procedures using these implants for stress urinary incontinence or pelvic organ prolapse.

The pause should remain in place pending confirmation of implementation of three “urgent recommendations”.

  • Surgery should only be carried out by appropriately trained surgeons on the specialist registrar who have undertaken relevant subspeciality training. HSE should establish a list or registry of persons qualified to undertake them.
  • Develop appropriate patient information material and consent material.
  • Develop and maintain data collection of all mesh procedures in HSE hospitals. Holohan referenced safety concerns about other devices such as breast implants and hip prostheses and the need for long-term monitoring.

He requested the HSE put in place a data collection system to ensure that information about numbers, locations and types of uro-gynaecological mesh procedures carried out in HSE-funded hospitals is routinely collected and centrally collated.

Holohan’s final report to the minister is likely to recommend that the suspension is not lifted until all of these recommendations have been implemented, as well as the delivery of appropriate aftercare for women with complications. 

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    Mute Don @Cashel Woods
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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:14 AM

    I’m picking Italy but only because the Italians didn’t oppress us for over 800 years.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:17 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: good as reason as any I suppose

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:19 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: only because they thought it was too cold here. They would have annihilated us as well if they had a chance.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:22 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: Well some might call the Roman Catholic “conversion” in the 5th century oppression, which makes Italian/Roman oppression 1600 years!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:29 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: How sad its a game of footblall . Best team wins

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:42 AM

    @Robert Preston: I thought the team who scored the most goals wins

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:03 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: I’m doing it because I love a good fresh cod & chips

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:23 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: I’m picking Italy as I have them backed at 15/2

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:24 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: good choice seen as we dodged a bullet with the Italians thanks to our weather, I’m afraid Hibernia was to cold for the Romans.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:24 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: sadly, I think it’s time for me and other moderate Ulstermen to delete the journal dot ie. It is clearly a hotbed of hatred for all who do not confirm to their narrow green extreme nationalism. Bye, folks and good luck achieving a united Ireland by alienating your northern brethren.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:25 AM

    @James McCartney: very valid point James

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:27 AM

    @Boyd Gray: bye now.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:47 AM

    @James McCartney: The phrase ‘Roman Catholic’ wasn’t used until after the Reformation. Before that it was just the ‘Church’, the ‘Christian Church’, the ‘Church of Christ’ or similar.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:53 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: Their Church did.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:54 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: no future in the past…… ?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:06 PM

    @Boyd Gray: any team who has supporter’s who boo during a country’s national anthem don’t deserve to win. And if they are your ‘brethren’ you are very welcome to stay where you are!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 1:00 PM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: and that affects you how?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 1:43 PM

    @Derek Moran: No, they considered us and the Scots as complete lunatics and not worth the hassle. They even ceded parts of wales to Irish chieftains in an attempt to stop the incessant raiding by Irish.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:42 PM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: You mean 800 years ago when the Normans conquered England then the Irish kings elected the Norman King of England to be their King and the Normans went to Ireland on orders from the pope who was sitting in Italy.

    The Irish were so oppressed by the English that 30% of English people have Irish ancestry, 10% have an Irish grandparent the majority both, most are still alive and the majority living in Ireland, so there nearly 5 times more people in England with Irish ancestry than Ireland and more people with an Irish born grandparent in England than Ireland.

    There is also a number of player in the England squad like Kane that are eligible to play for Ireland.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 3:02 PM

    @Don @Cashel Woods: in comparison to all the things the church was doing to us right up until the start of this century the Crown forces oppression was miniscure by comparison.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:16 PM

    @Boyd Gray: do you not support Northern Ireland

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:52 PM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: and before that it was the Jewish religion.

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    Jul 10th 2021, 4:16 AM

    @Boyd Gray: moderately throwing your toys out of the pram a bit there I’d say. Go to Scotland or Wales and ask the same question, you’d get Italy every time. It’s like the phrase ‘ I support [ insert Ireland, Scotland etc] and anyone else who’s playing England. Everybody loves to hate the old enemy, it is not extreme nationalism.

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    Jul 10th 2021, 9:24 AM

    @Don @Cashel Woods:
    Ah but they did!
    Britain was invaded by the Romans and English people have Anglo Saxon, Roman, Viking etc DNA.
    The ordinary working class English were the Canon fodder for their imperial wars.
    The ordinary working class English lived in dire poverty while their masters lived in splendour for centuries.
    Football is the working class game of England, the toffs play Rugby.
    C’mon England!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:18 AM

    I only voted to see if Italy have 100% of the votes

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:47 AM

    @James Fox: Was disappointed myself.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:17 AM

    Anyone but England after their unethical disgusting behaviour in the last match. They should Not of been awarded the last goal.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:43 AM

    @Paul Somers: Reminiscent of their behaviour in Landsdowne Road in what (’94 or ’96). A sçumbàg following, for a sçumbàg team. I am so glad I support a different sport than soccer. Who boo’s another teams National Anthem, sçumbàg’s do.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:26 AM

    @Paul Somers: so let’s say Denmark were awarded that penalty, would you bemoan that? Of course not!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:13 AM

    @Alan Wright: Good that you don’t sound like a bigot that tars everyone with the same brush. Also great that you are supporting a superior sports for superior human beings like yourself.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 1:28 PM

    @Paul Somers: You must have missed the Italians rolling around on the ground feigning injuries for the last half hour of the game against Belgium.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 4:39 PM

    @Alan Wright: Nothing like it nice try . I watched that match live

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    Jul 9th 2021, 6:32 PM

    @Malcolm Smith:

    Yes if they had dived like Sterling did, Dixon ex English international said it was no peno.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:24 AM

    And when the euros are over all the anti brits on here will be cheering on the English players at their favourite premiership clubs.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:40 AM

    @James O Lone: good call, never thought of that, more than likely wearing a premiership football Jersey as we speak

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:02 AM

    @James O Lone: English clubs are obviously based in england but that’s about it , vast majority of players are non English , vast majority of money in premiership is foreign .what makes the English clubs great are Foreign players and foreign owners not English players or English owners .

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:05 AM

    @James O Lone: Lot of these English clubs had a lot of Irish players over the years. Especially in and before the 60′s. Also lot of Irish people went to England to get work and would go to see football matches or Kids would get a contact with these clubs, example John Giles, Liam Whelan. Football was a working mans game. Less of a reason now for Irish people to support these clubs as times have moved on but with players like Pogba, Mo Salah kids want to have the kit of their favourite players. Also support of these clubs was sometimes handed down by parents.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:24 AM

    @Terry McSweeney: missed my point completely, of all soccer that’s broadcast 90% is probably the Premier league which the vast majority of people who are on here will gladly watch enjoy and support , but will now hope the players from clubs they follow get beaten but in a couple of months would lose it if those same players were getting abuse on here. It’s just a bit childish tbh

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:29 AM

    @James O Lone: dont think many have an issue with the players, Grealish and Rice aside, its the English fans that would sicken you.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:37 AM

    @James O Lone: that’s sport , it’s the difference between international and club sport.
    Perfectly natural and understandable .

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:46 AM

    @James O Lone: How’s it any different to cheering on your county in GAA but cursing them same players when they played for a rival parish?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:00 AM

    @James O Lone: Here’s a defence of cheating in soccer by Jamie Carragher, the ex Liverpool player who spat in the face of a young girl supporting the rival Man United!
    https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/euro-2020/sterling-was-just-savvy-not-cynical-in-winning-penalty-40631946.html.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:49 PM

    @Terry McSweeney: that excuse is a new one because they had huge support in Ireland when the clubs were totally English – players and owners. It’s not like the fans of English club football moved their support from the LOI when Russian money moved in.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:51 PM

    @Michel Fitzgerald: Damien duff said the exact same on RTE before the penalty. If you are fouled then it’s pointless staying up.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 1:26 PM

    @Eugene Norman: And equally well if you can simulate a foul then it’s pointless staying up!
    “There is an increasing trend of diving and simulation in soccer. The practice goes against sport ethics and what is morally acceptable conduct. In a perfect world, sports players, who are often idolized by younger generations, should project core value of fairness, integrity and respect. Pretending to be injured, making false contortions of the face at times when there is no contact made, flopping and then rolling around on the pitch very much go against those principles.”
    https://www.sports-king.com/dictionary.php?q=player-simulation

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    Jul 9th 2021, 1:39 PM

    @James O Lone: those English clubs were founded and built up the ground up by working class people many of Irish origin, there’s Irish blood in the veins of every major team in England just like with LOI teams and that’s enough to justify supporting them especially when it’s often family traditions passed down since so and so grandfather or great grandfather was living in the UK

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:47 PM

    @Sean Dalton: 30% of English people have Irish ancestry so a lot of English fans have Irish ancestry just like the English squad.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:54 PM

    @James O Lone: You are obviously not a sports fan but we won’t hold that against you. We ‘anti brits’ like to see teams win on merit. Is diving even a sport? C’mon Italy!!!!!!!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 3:26 PM

    @James O Lone: People are allowed to follow whoever they want without needing your permission, get over it.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 4:29 PM

    @James O Lone: childish is booing other countries’ anthems and mocking a 6 year old girl. English fans deserve the reputation they have. A very sinister, xenophobic bunch. Live with it, boy.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 4:32 PM

    @LiamMac2018: I do agree somewhat, but you can’t tarnish all English fans with that brush.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 6:55 PM

    @Terry McSweeney: so you are saying the Irish didn’t support English teams before the Premiership? Thanks for clearing that up!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:30 AM

    It’s coming Rome

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:07 AM

    @David Harper: sta tornando a casa!!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:55 AM

    Italy won the Eurovision while UK had no points. Let’s hope they repeat a double this summer.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:23 AM

    They’ve been banging on about ’66 for the past 55 years. Few more years of hurt for them.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:20 AM

    @Munster1: Just remind me when Ireland last won a tournament?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:26 AM

    @Patrick Brompton: We won one in Iceland in 86.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:28 AM

    @Munster1: and is not Ray Houghtons goal ever mentioned?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:42 AM

    @Patrick Brompton: The Nation’s Cup in 2011

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:45 AM

    @Leadóg: Ah yes, The Iceland Triangular Tournament between Iceland,the Republic of Ireland and Czechoslovakia. Forgive me if it slipped my mind. It was notable because David O’Leary could not be bothered to play in it and went on a family holiday instead.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:51 AM

    @Padraig: that was the tournament between the Republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. All the nations of Britain and Ireland except for Guess Who?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:08 AM

    @Patrick Brompton: You asked a question and got multiple answers which satisfied the question asked and conveyed your lack of knowledge about Ireland and its soccer victories. Now jog on little man.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:52 PM

    @Thisguy: maybe he should have said major tournament.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 3:11 PM

    @Patrick Brompton: We always win the best fans in the world competition, at least when we qualify, which actually gives us more prestige as a nation than winning any competition. Irish people have scored more winning goals in World Cup finals than any other nation, albeit in our imaginations and we have given foreigners the most famous phrase in Sporting history. “I love the Irish” paving the way for ‘Cead Mile Failtes in every country in the World. “When did we last win a tournament” The problem is we can’t stop losing!!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 4:41 PM

    @Patrick Brompton: Ireland could not make it to the Eurovision let alone the Euros 2020 . There will never be another squad like the 1990 Republic team

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    Jul 10th 2021, 2:38 AM

    @Patrick Brompton: The Icelandic Cup , not 55 years ago.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:18 AM

    Well who could of predicted the result of this poll, what a surprise,

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    Jul 9th 2021, 4:32 PM

    @Rob LLoyd: so? Do you expect/ demand another country to follow and support you? What entitled narcissism. Get a grip.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 5:09 PM

    @LiamMac2018: Your reaction sums up my point entirely, predictable and sad

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:21 AM

    It’ll be Italy on penne-alties

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:23 AM

    @Karl Doyle: All they need is to put one more pasta keeper.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:43 AM

    @Alan Biddulph: could be tricky if said keeper uses Spaghetti Legs tactic !

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:06 AM

    @Ríain HenC: Don’t be fusilli!!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:43 AM

    Wanted Italy to win before tournament started. Now even more especial as never hear the end of it if England win.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:33 AM

    Even though the media well some in the media are trying to push this closest neighbour’s nonsense on us it’s good to see the good people of ireland overwhelmingly voting for Italy. After all english fans are the worst fans on earth imagine booing the national anthem of a team who nearly lost a team mate a week or so before .
    Not to mention the english lack of respect for other sovereign nations they ho around being a lap dog for the USA and disrespecting every other nation on earth .you who struggle to find a nation that likes them .peace

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    Jul 9th 2021, 1:53 PM

    @Eoghan S Quinn: at the start of that Denmark v Finland game the Danish fans roundly booed the Finnish national anthem. This isn’t something that is isolated to English fans. Having said that, I hope the Italians batter them like a smoked cod.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:47 PM

    @Gerard Smith: I’m not much of a cook but would you actually batter smoked cod?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:53 PM

    @Eoghan S Quinn: Dont you remember the Irish fans booing at a game with Northern Ireland or has that conveniently slipped your mind?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 5:49 PM

    @Eoghan S Quinn: You thrash a country and then end it with “peace . What an absolute
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    Jul 9th 2021, 6:05 PM

    @Gerard Smith: In fairness the denmark fans have never smashed up lansdowne rd they havnt been banned for europe for years for rampaging in a final that ultimately led to the deaths of Italians. The list goes on and also Finland had not nearly lost one of there players the week before they have no respect.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 6:11 PM

    @Robert Preston: the fact that you have to hide behind a key board and call names like a baby tells me your not very bright .and to think I was being kind to england fans the truth is they are far worse than just booing .they smashed up a stadium in dublin while kids looked on they smash and urinate all over european cities when they play English clubs where banned for years from europe for years because they are the worst fans on earth hands down .and yes I do like peace but it is the war mongering english that dont like peace

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    Jul 9th 2021, 6:14 PM

    @On the right side: lol you seem to be upset with every comment you must be flat out typing all evening. Good one you got me lol

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:29 AM

    Picking Italy whilst paying an arm and a leg to watch the Premier league………

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:38 AM

    @Disco Inferno: just for people who play the well they all support english teams .I for one dont bit for the record no teams in the EPL are actually english owned no english managers in the epl maybe one far more scotish managers so people who support the epl are supporting and international leauge not an english one

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:35 PM

    @Eoghan S Quinn: they have supporter the English teams since way back when full of English players and managers

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:58 AM

    Thanks to all the majority of people who decided to support us

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:23 AM

    Surprised by this poll. I thought England would win considering there are 3 Irish players playing for them and, just like their one day cricket team, they can’t win anything without a few Irish in their squad.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 7:00 PM

    @Jonathan Nolan:
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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:41 AM

    The reason you don’t want England to win is because you’ll never hear the end of it if they do!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:35 AM

    Ironically the England section is blue-blue shirts, I have family that live in England and still wouldn’t be caught dead wishing them luck. Italy all the way, target Pickford he’s muck.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:55 PM

    @Epgenetics29 Declan Christoph: You mean Catholic Pickford with Irish ancestry?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:53 AM

    A little ironic voting out of Europe and ending up in the finals of Euros.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:17 PM

    @Joey: they voted out of European Union, still part of Europe.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 4:33 PM

    @Joey: That’s because Britain was still in Europe last time I checked, back to geography class for you.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:56 AM

    Every soccer fan in Ireland supports a british club team. Very few support any Irish league teams??

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:59 AM

    @Seán Dillon: Irish League is the Northern Ireland league. League of Ireland is the league here

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:35 AM

    Italy, so we don’t have to hear about it every second of the day and have it lorded over everyone.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:56 PM

    @Lisa Crombie: Why are you going to have to here about it you live in Ireland?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:21 AM

    Soccer cheats cheat us all

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:39 AM

    I can’t wait to see who’s the best diver Sterling or Kane

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:58 PM

    @Margaret Kane: Erm they playing Italy..lol

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    Jul 9th 2021, 5:18 PM

    @On the right side: ohhhhhhh really ??????

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:31 PM

    I voted Italy due to the behaviour of the UK supporters.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 3:02 PM

    @Joe_X: Have you ever watch Italian football? Bullheads, scooters and fireworks thrown on the pitch, they fire fireworks at the players and across the pitch at rival fans, supporters even throw banana’s at their own black players.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:24 AM

    Wow, now there’s a surprise, well at least all the Liverpool, Man Utd, etc shirts can come out again Monday!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:58 AM

    I’m voting England because about a quarter of their team has strong Irish roots

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    Jul 9th 2021, 3:06 PM

    @Virgil: Harry Kane dad Pat was born in County Galway.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:40 AM

    I’ve England in the sweepstakes at work and I still want Italy to win… I hope it’s not anti-english, it’s anti-english football. They over hype themselves too much. While the hype has arguably been justified over the last three years, the last 2 decades of “golden generations” and what not have left a bad taste in the mouth.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:21 AM

    If Italy win on Sunday there’ll not be a chip fried on Monday.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:15 AM

    Why bring politics into it! But while you’re at it, Coveney and Martin are both well know as being able to judge the country’s opinion!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 4:00 PM

    Would all the anti English posters here accept English blood donated last week, in a time of shortage
    in Ireland…..?
    Like it or not The Green Island is dependent on England/UK in many ways, including UK guarding
    Irish airspace….I won’t go on.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 4:02 PM

    This comments section is hilarious, people going on about 800 years of this that and the other. The problems were between our governments and elites but not between the vast majority of people on both islands. A lot of the Irish elites are just as guilty as the British for what happened to the Irish but the same things also happened to the British as well especially when it came to Catholicism, like now back them the difference is class not nationality.

    Its sad that so many you have so much hatred for English people for things that they are not even responsible for and millions of Irish people have benefited from England, about 30% of English people have Irish ancestry and a lot of people on both islands have close family ties on the other island.

    Its not nice seeing politicians like Leo and Simon sticking their fingers up at the English people when they have both benefited from England, if it was not for England Leo would not even exist, his parents trained in England, met in England, got married in England and lived in England happily for 10 years, how many Irish people have benefited from the skills they learnt while in England? Leo had a privilege up bringing because of those skills. Simon went to the Royal Agriculture college in England and then become the Minister of Agriculture. Its a shame that many Irish politicians have benefited from England and now they are burning those bridges ending the benefits of England for millions of more Irish people.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 11:16 AM

    Been living in the UK our watching the games some (not all) of the fans are actually vile and obnoxious. Not a fair reflection on the team that’s representing their country to be fair, in that sense I hope the players get the W.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:54 AM

    Måneskin

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    Jul 9th 2021, 1:46 PM

    Forza Italia!

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:14 PM

    Simple Italy.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:57 PM

    I don’t really care either way, although I’d actually shout for England if it wasn’t for some of their moronic supporters booing the opposing national anthem. However politics should be kept out of sport, and banging on about Northern Ireland or 800 years of oppression are not valid reasons.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:13 PM

    The hatred towards the English team is tangible, BUT how many of these actually support English football teams.?

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:12 PM

    England were the better team on the night , Sterling should get a ban for diving , anyone diving should be shown the line , Denmark were never in the game , shmichael looked the best player on the pitch which says a lot about Denmark, also Pickford is a calamity waiting to happen which also shows how good Englands defence is after only letting in one goal with him between the posts .Italy look the likely winners though Spain nearly took them out , out of order booing national anthems , and that idiot with the laser needs to be banned ,

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:28 PM

    @Paddy Dunne: so ban anyone diving that would be most of the strikers and midfield players out then. I mean how much diving and play acting was in the spain italy match

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:12 PM

    I wanted to see England do well but not actually win the thing! Their fans have really turned me to supporting Italy in the final.
    The cynical diving and petulance of the Italian players however is also quite bad, if not a lot worse than Sterling’s incident.
    So overall, not too keen on either side! Depends on which team hasn’t brought the game the most into disrepute (which is a close call)

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    Jul 9th 2021, 3:14 PM

    @Mathew Sheehan: Italian fans do the same but the Irish media are only obsessed with everything to do with the English.

    Italian football hooliganism and racism is much worse than the English but you dont hear about it because most Irish are only interested in English football.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:33 PM

    Survey in the wrong country. The result shows everything.LOL

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    Jul 9th 2021, 12:38 PM

    @Mark: I’m sure you could ask most countries that aren’t England and a similar result will crop up, with the possible exception of the States.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:19 PM

    Says it all about the Irish inferior complex

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    Jul 9th 2021, 1:01 PM

    Top click bait from the journal… stay classy.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:18 PM

    Says it all about Irish inferior complex

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    Jul 9th 2021, 9:15 PM

    Well I backed Italy from the start and I’m sticking with them

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:42 AM

    ingeeeeeerrrrrrrrlaaaaaaaand

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    Jul 9th 2021, 2:37 PM

    The worst fans in the world. Their fans seemed to matter more about whether they could beat up the Russians rather than if they were any good in the tournament.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 3:21 PM

    @Paul Cunningham: Educate yourself, Italian hooliganism is worse than the English but just carry on living in fantasy land and carry on hating English people for things they are not responsible for, by the way the English you hate 30% of them have Irish ancestry.

    Two men are arrested for attempted MURDER after Liverpool fan, 53, is attacked and left fighting for his life ‘by Italian football supporters carrying belts and hammers’ outside Anfield stadium as Roma lose 5-2

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-5652919/Liverpool-supporter-attacked-Roma-fans-Champions-League-clash.html

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:40 PM

    I just changed my mind. Italy. By 10 just Jacob Rees mogg quoting the Barnes rap omg

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    Jul 9th 2021, 8:50 PM

    Bunch of hypo crites the lot of ye. Most supporting Italy probably own a premiership jersey.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:14 PM

    Italy of course. England are cheats.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 3:13 PM

    Come on Italgland, can wait to have my deep fried Mars Bar Tagliatelle.

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    Jul 10th 2021, 12:58 AM

    Sad reflection of Irish society.
    Ireland will ‘never’ get into a semi or final.
    Bitter small mindedness.

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    Jul 9th 2021, 10:40 AM

    NP

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