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YOUR Fiscal Compact questions: Answers from ‘Yes’ side Fine Gael Simon Coveney

We asked TheJournal.ie’s users to put forward their questions about what the Fiscal Compact actually MEANS and we would get straightforward answers. Here they are.

LAST WEEK, THEJOURNAL.IE issued a callout to you, our readers and fellow citizens and voters, on the question of the Fiscal Compact referendum.

We wanted to know what YOU wanted to know about the Treaty on Stability, Coordination and Governance in the Economic and Monetary Union (official title).

First, we picked the most commonly-asked questions you submitted on points that you didn’t understand or wanted clarified in the wording of the treaty.

Then we posed those questions to two independent bodies here (the Referendum Commission) and in the EU (the European Policy Centre), as well as to a representative each of the ‘No’ and the ‘Yes’ side.

Click here for answers from all sides.

HERE: The director of Fine Gael’s ‘Yes’ campaign, Minister Simon Coveney, answers your questions:

What is NEW in this treaty for Ireland?

An awful lot of the Treaty isn’t new; we’ve already agreed to much of its contents in existing EU treaties, agreements and laws. But there are some differences. Legally, the parts of the Treaty dealing with debt will be written in national law. This is a positive measure which will encourage good housekeeping across the EU and ensure that Governments spend taxpayers money wisely.

The Treaty will also introduce an automatic mechanism which will introduce correction plans based on common principles for countries if they don’t stick to these budget rules.

Finally, the Treaty  means that there will be more effective monitoring across the euro area to ensure countries in difficulty undertake structural reforms to get their economies back on track.

Can Ireland still access the EFSF fund regardless of what way the vote goes?

The EFSF is a temporary fund, which is being replaced by the permanent ESM fund. The only way we can access the ESM is by ratifying the Stability Treaty. This is clearly set out in the Treaty, and has been clarified on a number of occasions by the independent Referendum Commission. We need to borrow about €18 billion in 2014 when our current funding runs out; if we reject the Treaty we will be cut off from the ESM, and the EFSF will no longer exist by then.

A figure of €11 billion has been suggested as Ireland’s maximum input into the ESM. Does the ESM have the power to increase this figure if required?

Ireland is going to contribute €1.27 billion to the ESM over three years. While this is significant, it should be looked at in the context of the amount of money the ESM could potentially provide to Ireland in the future.

The €11 billion figure refers to ‘callable capital’, and it is extremely unlikely that we will ever be called upon to inject this money, for a number of reasons. First of all, the ESM will be able to raise money on the markets to boost its lending capacity. And secondly, Ireland would only have to contribute this much if all of the ESM’s €700 billion was used up, and if all of it was defaulted upon. This is highly unlikely.

If we do require funding can the ESM set additional austerity measures as part of the agreement to provide funding to Ireland?

The terms and conditions of funding from the ESM will be worked out on a case by case basis. But the reality is, as I already mentioned, we need to borrow €18 billion to fund the State in 2014. If we can’t get this on the markets, and we are cut off from the ESM because we rejected the Treaty, we would be facing extremely harsh measures to close this funding gap over night.

If we vote Yes in this referendum, is the treaty being added to our constitution?

No, the Treaty is not being added to the Constitution. If we vote Yes we are simply allowing the Government to ratify and implement the Stability Treaty, no more than that.

If we ratify the treaty and then the wording of the treaty is changed afterwards, will the same amendments apply to us?

The Treaty is not going to change; we know what we are voting on, and this will not change. This was clarified at last week’s EU leaders summit in Brussels. The Treaty was agreed in March, its text is not going to change. In the referendum the Irish people are being asked to give the Government permission to ratify the Stability Treaty.

The Taoiseach Enda Kenny said after the informal summit in Brussels this week that there can still be a growth deal among EU countries, completely separate to the fiscal compact. Is this possible?

Absolutely. The Stability Treaty is just one piece of the jigsaw when it comes to addressing Europe’s difficulties. The Irish Government has been stressing the need to push growth up the European agenda for some time. This has been boosted by the election of President Hollande in France, and it is expected that further progress on growth measures will be made at the June EU summit. This will have no impact on the contents of the Stability Treaty.

What interest rate will the ESM charge? Is it ‘at cost’ as some in the ‘Yes’ campaign have claimed?

The interest rate and other conditions will be agreed on a case by case basis. Ireland has already secured a cut to the interest rate being charged on our current EU/IMF funding. The purpose of the ESM is to ensure stability across the euro area; in my view this would of course be taken into account when interest rates are being agreed. In other words, it would not be in the best interest of the ESM or the countries it lends to if it charged punitive interest rates. It’s important to add that voting Yes is the only way to guarantee access to the ESM.

The treaty refers to “Structural Deficit”, but it doesn’t define the term.  Some economists are worried that the term is undefined.  Could you please define “structural deficit” and provide a definitive explanation as to how exactly it is measured.

The structural balance is the situation that would exist if ups and downs of the economic cycle are smoothed out. Under the Treaty, countries are required to work towards achieving a structural deficit of 0.5% of GDP; in other words, they are being encouraged to balance their budgets. Ireland is already required, under our current bailout programme, to get our deficit down to 3% by 2015, and we are on track to do this. A time frame will be worked out with the European Commission for us to further reduce our deficit. It will be worked out on a country specific basis, and there are flexibilities built into the Treaty on this. For example, ‘exceptional circumstances’ will be allowed for.

The treaty says: “In the event of significant observed deviations from the medium-term objective or the adjustment path towards it, a correction mechanism shall be triggered automatically. The mechanism shall include the obligation of the Contracting Party concerned to implement measures to correct the deviations over a defined period of time.”

Who defines what a ‘significant deviation’ is; what are the “corrective measures”; who is to define the period of time?

This part of the Treaty relates to the fact that there will be closer monitoring of EU governments, to make sure they are sticking to sensible budget rules. In our own case, this will be carried out by the Fiscal Advisory Council. What constitutes a significant deviation and what corrective action should be taken will be worked out with the European Commission.

Is there provision for any circumstance that any individual or group of countries to opt out of this treaty in the future?

The Treaty will come into effect once it has been ratified by 12 countries. Once a country signs up to the Treaty, its rules are binding. Any country can opt out of a Treaty if desired but it is in Ireland’s interests to sign up to this Treaty so that we have the opportunity to access ESM funds at low interest rates if necessary in the future.

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    Mute Ned Gerblansky
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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:13 AM

    We should not be allowing elected politicians to become lobbyists.

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    Mute Seán O'Loughlin
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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:10 AM

    This just reeks… Along with Brian Hayes… FG = jobs for the boys (in the banks/financial institutions)

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    Mute Sean Callan
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    Sep 28th 2020, 12:20 PM

    He has all right connections and a fine FG pedrigree .
    Another cynical example of looking after no 1.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:40 PM

    @Seán O’Loughlin: Not forgetting Enda Kenny now working for a vulture fund…

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    Mute Tony Lyons
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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:48 PM

    @Sean Callan: you would do the same if you could

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    Mute Nigel o'Neill
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    Sep 28th 2020, 5:14 PM

    @Seán O’Loughlin: it’s Ireland.. Nothing changes.. Go back to sleep.. Nothing to see here now

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    Mute Sean Callan
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    Sep 28th 2020, 9:21 PM

    @Tony Lyons:
    I don’t think so Tony,
    Politics (Irish style) is not in my gene pool….
    ,

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    Mute herp
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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:28 PM

    @Tony Lyons: cheerleader

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    Mute Cupid Stunt
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    Sep 29th 2020, 6:53 AM

    @Tony Lyons: Tony loves a good lobby

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    Mute Rochelle
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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:49 AM

    A vote for FG is a vote for banks and the insurance industry, they’ll dutifully serve them in or out of power. If that wasn’t clear to everyone already.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:22 AM

    @Rochelle: Those who still cant see that just simply dont want to see it…

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    Mute Billy McNamara
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    Sep 28th 2020, 5:00 PM

    @Rochelle: Pierce Doherty will be the man to get us who are being screwed by insurers for years a fair deal.Roll on the next election,Covid 19 or not.

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    Mute Shedonny
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    Sep 28th 2020, 7:59 PM

    @Rochelle:
    Also the party of the Black and Tans Commemoration. Let’s not forget.

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    Mute MickN
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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:20 AM

    The second FG man to run off to the banks, if anymore proof was needed FG are part of the banking problem in this country…

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    Mute Brendan Balmaine
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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:42 PM

    @MickN: The 3rd….Enda now works for a vulture fund..

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    Mute Seán Marlow
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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:00 PM

    @Brendan Balmaine: and John Bruton

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    Mute LangerDan
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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:16 AM

    Don’t politicians have to serve a cooling off period of 6 months before being allowed to be lobbyists?

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    Mute Rory J Leonard
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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:23 AM

    @LangerDan:

    Having lost his seat in last February’s GE, is the man now not free to make fresh Career choices?

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    Mute Paul Power
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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:30 AM

    @Rory J Leonard: he did he went for the Seanad.

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    Mute Brendan Greene
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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:32 AM

    @Rory J Leonard: it’s his choice of career that is the problem. He has been hired because of his contacts within DOF and with the Tanaiste.
    When the Failers did this thing they were rightly condemned by FG for cronyism and corruption. Plus la change etc.

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    Mute dar.i.am
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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:34 AM

    @LangerDan: 1 year

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    Mute Liz Luke
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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:23 AM

    @LangerDan: Read the article , not allowed lobby for a 12 month period

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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:24 AM

    @LangerDan: yes 12 months..it’s stated in the article

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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:33 AM

    @LangerDan: 12 month’s actually

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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:50 AM

    @dublindamo: Article was updated after my comment

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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:12 PM

    @LangerDan: 12 months I think.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 2:02 PM

    @LangerDan: It should be 5 yrs

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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:05 PM

    @LangerDan: As mentioned by others the cooling off period is 12 months, they, IAIM, have said that he “won’t be doing any lobbying work for the first 12 months” so rule essentially skirted and loophole applied, one of their specialties.

    Yet again lax legislation allows this to happen, loopholes all over the place waiting to be exploited by the reptiles. These laws and 100′s of others need to be tightened now BEFORE they are exploited.

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    Mute Eddie O'Neill
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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:07 PM

    The below would make sick, good riddance Darcy.

    “Varadkar said he is “sorry to lose” D’Arcy from the Fine Gael parliamentary party “but can understand why he has made his decision”.

    “I would have loved to have seen Michael return to the Dáil as a TD and a Minister after the next election but understand that after 20 years in public life he wants to start a new chapter of his life.”

    Varadkar added that the IAIM is “fortunate to recruit someone of his calibre”.

    D’Arcy was a supporter of Varadkar in his successful Fine Gael leadership campaign and the Tánaiste thanked him for the “pivotal role he played in helping me to become leader of my party”.”

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    Sep 28th 2020, 8:35 PM

    @Rory J Leonard: FG collaborate with the greedy parasites who screwed us for €64 billion. Just as they collaborated with the mass murderers of Ballymurphy Derry Springhill New Lodge Newry Dundalk Dublin Monaghan. #unquietgraves

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    Sep 29th 2020, 8:24 AM

    @LangerDan: well it’s actually 12 months.

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    Mute Ernie Gallagher
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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:22 AM

    Anyone remember the days when jobs had to be advertised in the papers, followed by an interview process to select a successful candidate?

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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:23 PM

    @Ernie Gallagher: its all.the.smurfitt special now brown envelopes hand delivered

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    Mute Donal McGrath
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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:14 AM

    He’s probably just going to attend a few golf dinners here and there and explain to his old pals why the financial sector needs a little less regulation and the voter doesn’t need to worry about our the motives of our highly reputable and esteemed financial institutions.

    How else can all of these titans of entrepreneurship make progress on another era of offshore accounts, reckless speculation, collapsing the economy and fleeing to declare bankruptcy in other countries (once the real assets are signed over) unless they have a lobbyist who has the ear of the lawmakers?

    Anyway, it’ll be a nice change. He’s probably worn out from his ‘fullest contribution to public life’ especially all the work he did as Minister for State with responsibility for financial services and insurance to prevent scams over tracker mortgages, insurance price fixing, …

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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:37 AM

    Former Junior Ministers must serve a 1 year cooling off period if they take up employment with lobbyists. Sipo can reduce the timeframe upon application in certain circumstances. Was clearance sought from Sipo and would it even be permitted in these circumstances ???
    This might not be as straightforward as Fine Gael and Michael D’Arcy would want

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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:47 AM

    Lovely cosy relationship between Fine Gael and Banking, Finance and Funds. Says it all really.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 3:49 PM

    @Da_Dell: Do you pay into a pension? If so, you have a relationship with funds too.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:26 PM

    @Jonathan McCoy: cheerleader much

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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:45 PM

    @Da_Dell: Fine Gael rotten to the core

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    Sep 28th 2020, 5:10 PM

    @Jonathan McCoy: yes i do, and i cant collect mine until i retire, how many state pensions will this chap have in his new job ? I also work for a company that operates exchanges and manages funds. politicians should not be coveted by these type of companies, if politicians were doing their jobs and representing the people, they would be seen as pariahs not allies.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:27 AM

    #jobsfortheboys

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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:57 AM

    Phil Hogan is going to be revealed as the Official COVID Officer for the country and Michael Lowry will rejoin FG only to instantly leave and be appointed the country’s official liaison officer for dealings with Denis O’Brien’s special envoy – John Delaney.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 10:22 AM

    Irish politics, rotten to the core!

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    Sep 28th 2020, 12:30 PM

    @Shinners Abú: Correct and Im no apologist for any these Government parties thats for sure
    But I will ask you one question and one only.
    Will Sinn Féin have the wherewithal to clean up the “rotten to the core” of Irish Politics

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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:14 PM

    @Nick Condon Sen: christ almighty, we’re talking about fine gael here! Stop the whataboutery!

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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:15 PM

    @Nick Condon Sen: Who knows, I’m sure they would try a lot harder than FFG, see our last 10+years of government…
    One thing is certain, FFG have zero interest in cleaning it up.
    Only votes will change that

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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:45 PM

    @Nick Condon Sen: Looking at the pressure Pearse Doherty has brought to bear on the insurance industry I can’t see why not!

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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:27 AM

    retiring from public life,

    to lobby public representatives

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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:11 AM

    Give it a week before the next scandal comes out.

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    Mute Frank Manweiler
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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:14 PM

    Isn’t the other weasel kenny doing same for vulture(sic)funds….. “great lil country to do business”… he forgot to add ..
    ..for some…..

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    Sep 28th 2020, 9:37 PM

    @Frank Manweiler:
    And don’t forget a former FG finance Michael Noonan he invited the vulture funds, created a special tax loophole for them, but that’s history, FG history.
    Nothing has changed….

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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:57 PM

    This should be Ilegal. Complete conflict of interest and Hayes guilty of it aswell, among others including Bertie and Kenny.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:28 AM

    Sure he lobbied for the insurance industry to reduce claims sizes.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:41 PM

    @ChronicAnxiety: thats a good thing as you and I pay increased premiums as a result of some of the inflated claims

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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:16 PM

    @dublindamo: the number of claims and the size of awards has been decreasing for the last 10 years .
    FBD made a million euro profit….. a week .every week last year.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:57 PM

    He was a chocolate teapot as a minister, a complete waste of space. He didnt get this job because of his educational background, performance as a TD or minister or any other relevant attributes, pure and simple as a lobbyist who will call in favours from his FG mates. Dragging his heals on insurance reform has certainly rewarded him. Toxic.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 5:34 PM

    @John McCann: Spot on. Man was absolutely useless as a minister. Up there with Simon, Leo or Murphy.

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    Mute Glenn Caulfield
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    Sep 28th 2020, 3:56 PM

    They are all at this. Tom Parlon, Lucinda Creighton become a TD for a while and then become a lobbyist. They should be barred from becoming lobbyists full stop.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:51 PM

    Maybe we should teach ‘conflict of interests’ meaning in schools. As Minister for State with responsibility for financial services and insurance Micheál should know where he but loopholes. Talk about building your own career at taxpayer expense. His lifetime free parking at government buildings will serve him well.
    Michael just realised after talking to Leo that he had no chance at a bigger portfolio.

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    Sep 29th 2020, 1:31 AM

    @leartius: need to teach conflicts of interest in the Dail. my 14 year old has good understanding of it

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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:29 PM

    Only in Ireland

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    Sep 28th 2020, 1:32 PM

    Hea has plenty of time to make connections with other influential people during his time.
    Brown envelopes for everyone in the audience lol

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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:32 PM

    What about Enda Kenny advisor to one of the main Vulture Funds?

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    Sep 28th 2020, 5:57 PM

    @Paul Howard: Shouldn’t have been allowed either.In fact truth be told Enda Kenny should have been allowed…period..more brains in a false face.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:55 PM

    Tom Parlin springs to mind

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    Sep 28th 2020, 4:55 PM

    Should not be allowed by Law to lobby for at least two years.This is just a clear case where he gets an opportunity because of his understanding of the political system and how it operates. He is not advancing his career because of his Investment experience or business acumen.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 5:41 PM

    Probably signed off on a load of legislation while in office on behalf of his future employers. So convenient.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 5:05 PM

    Sounds like a cosey well paid job so.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 6:06 PM

    What qualifies a TD to be parachuted straight in as Chief executive?

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    Sep 28th 2020, 5:59 PM

    And not to mention the AG who forgot to mention he was a Landlord when voting against evictions banning legislation.Maybe he needs an advisor.

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    Mute noname
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    Sep 28th 2020, 7:19 PM

    Another Hayes
    Can’t believe people support these “people”

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    Mute Paul Howard
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    Sep 28th 2020, 6:44 PM

    What about Enda Kenny being advisor to one of the Vulture Funds is this not a conflict of interest.

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    Sep 28th 2020, 6:37 PM

    Boys club, Never ends!

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    Mute William Kelly
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    Sep 28th 2020, 6:16 PM

    Take back his severance lump sum, & cancel his Dail pass.
    If he ignores the rules, then he needs to be ignored. End of.

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    Mute Gene Johnston
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    Sep 28th 2020, 5:47 PM

    Won’t be ” seen to engage”

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    Mute Leonard O'mahony
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    Sep 28th 2020, 6:46 PM

    Yeah…right. I’ll take the job as CEO. But I won’t do any work for a full year. You’ll have to trust me on that. Ok?

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    Sep 28th 2020, 5:55 PM

    Not withstanding the fact that he was absolutely useless anyway…Minister for insurance reform…..ashtrays and bicycles come to mind .

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    Mute Eugene
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    Sep 28th 2020, 6:04 PM

    Ye right!!

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    Sep 28th 2020, 9:55 PM

    Unbelievable

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    Mute Seán Marlow
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    Sep 28th 2020, 8:39 PM

    FG collaborate with the greedy parasites who screwed us for€64 billions. Just as they collaborated with the mass murderers of Ballymurphy Derry Springhill New Lodge Newry Dundalk Dublin Monaghan etc #unquietgraves

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    Mute Tony Mc Grath
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    Sep 28th 2020, 9:52 PM

    @Seán Marlow: shocking, the political party connected to le Mon, Bloody Friday, Enniskillen, Teebane, Patsy Gillespie, murderers of children, postmen, census officials and countless more sordid murders, rapes and torture. Yes, they should take over?

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    Mute Seán Marlow
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    Sep 28th 2020, 11:04 PM

    @Tony Mc Grath: Vast majority of the deliberate targeting of unarmed civilians was perpetrated by British Forces and their Loyalist proxies. Backed by #FFG
    #UnquietGraves

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    Sep 29th 2020, 8:57 AM

    @Seán Marlow: so, all the innocent civilians murdered by the Provos were ‘mistakes’. And, the torture and murders of their own comrades were also mistakes. Right.

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    Mute Seán Marlow
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    Sep 29th 2020, 2:14 PM

    @Tony Mc Grath: like FG’s Séamus Ludlow? FG lied for 30 years that he was killed by the IRA when they knew that he was killed by their pals in the British Forces.

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    Sep 29th 2020, 6:55 AM

    Still and always will be a corrupt little kip

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