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Department of Health to spend over €130,000 on six-week review

The six-person team will cost about €22,000 each for the six-week period.

SIX CONSULTANTS HIRED by the Minister for Health will cost over €131,000 for six weeks of work, according to a report in the Medical Independent.

Reporter Ailbhe Jordan says that the six people will advise on the Primary Care Reimbursement Scheme and the Regional Directors of Operations (RDOs), both of which make up a part of James Reilly’s restructuring plans.

The Department of Health is paying a total of €131,000 plus VAT to PA Consulting for the six-person team.

A spokesperson for the Department told TheJournal.ie that the consultants are “undertaking an enormous amount of work” that is regarded as critical to the future of the health service.

“PA have been engaged to undertake a wide-ranging review of financial management and cost containment systems in the health service,” the Department said in a statement.

This review includes an assessment of the Ogden Report – a review of how the HSE manages its budgets and how to be more financially efficient – and the preparation for the implementation of its recommendations.

It will also analyse existing cost containment plans, assess various options for achieving cash savings and provide recommendations for strengthening the financial management infrastructure within the Irish health service.

The reviews come as the HSE announced €130 million in cost-saving measures last week as part of a wider effort to take €850 million of next year’s health budget.

For more, read Ailbhe Jordan’s exclusive in the Medical Independent>

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    Mute Audra Daly
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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:45 AM

    Isn’t there a review of something every week millions spent on them and nothing achieved
    a medical GP who took the oath to perfect and maintain life guess that means nothing anymore
    Hang your head in shame Dr.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:14 AM

    Hope this includes a shave and a haircut for James.
    What must they be thinking of him in european circles.

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    Mute Tim Jackson
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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:25 AM

    When you have a government unwilling to change, you will get this overpayment. Thank the Irish people for voting Fine Gael into office in 2011.

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    Mute Ted Carroll
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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:28 AM

    Tim I would like to hear the alternate suggestion to putting FG into power, easy to point the finger without offering a solution! We’re stuck in what will always be a two party country, I’m not too knowledgeable on politics but is it actually possible to have a government without FF or FG? At this stage they may as well just join up such is the inherent similarities between them!

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    Sep 7th 2012, 11:08 AM

    Ted..Tim’s solution..is 2 words. Sinn fein…

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    Sep 7th 2012, 11:18 AM

    Dr. Death has no connection with patients and he treats the DEPT of Health as a business (and he cannot maintain his own business and keep out of Stubbs gazette) Dr Death since taking office he has further destroyed our health system and has never faced the people with the truth after all He closed Roscommon A&E on lies about figures on fatalities and he also said that HIQA closed the Roscommon A&E (when HIQA have clarified that they never put a foot inside Roscommon Hospital and NEVER even suggested that it should close) and Dr Death also said that the HSE closed the A+E again lies from the Liars

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:58 AM

    How hard is it to say the problem is with the wages of the fat cats at the top. Their wages have to come down.
    I am sick and tired of front line staff being eaten alive by the media to try and protect their incomes when it is the fat cats at the top who hide in their ivory towers, taking all the glory when things go right but none of the pain when things go wrong.
    Private sector and public sector front line staff have taken the brunt of peoples anger while bosses retire with golden handshakes and ordinary people told to get a life. Shame on government, the opposition for allowing a few top civil servants destroy the country to protect their own wages and pension pots.
    It is time for front line public servants (nurses, guards etc.) and front line private staff (bank tellers, call centre staff etc.) to unite and in a non violent protest tell government and the elite it is time for a fair distribution of wealth and a fair distribution of the pain. Pain so far only felt by the PAYE employees of both public and private sectors.

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Sep 7th 2012, 9:00 AM

    Two Words for ya.
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    CROKE PARK

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    Sep 7th 2012, 9:13 AM

    Croke Park is a smoke screen. Those at the top of the public service gain more from it including TDs than front line staff. Overall Croke Park is a negative for front line staff as it can be used as an excuse to get front line staff to change location or change working hours without the additional pay and expenses still given to TDs, top civil servants like university presidents etc.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 9:34 AM

    Croke Park has already delivered on its agreed savings with another year to go. What’s your point?
    130,000/6/6/40=90e/hour.
    That’s 182,000pa which is the maximum a consultant can earn in Ireland. These are consultants who have spent the last 20years training, and dealing with the mahoosive mess that is the HSE. I’m not seeing the point of this story.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 5:23 PM

    croke partk could save much more if the political elite and ceo`s of state/semi state bodies took realistic cuts

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:50 AM

    The figure may look shocking at first, but this works out at about €75 an hour + expenses. The consultants are probably the top of their game, but probably earning about €60k each unless one of them is the owner.

    The problem is how this assessment cannot be done in-house, as there are people employed within this, and other, departments of government that are higher paid, and can should have the competence to perform this assessment of systems, but there professional assessment is always – hire someone else.

    Were flexibility and willingness to perform other duties part of this public sector agreement? I guess not.

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:52 AM

    yeah. How can this not be done in-house, especially when they have a doctor in charge of the health department. Go figure

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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:45 AM

    Alien8, 60 grand a year @ 75 euros an hour means they work an average of 15 hours a week!
    YFG must try harder…

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    Sep 7th 2012, 11:22 AM

    Little Jim – if the organization you work for contracts you out to someone else, you get a fraction of what they charge.

    I know business is a complete mystery to you but even that much should be obvious.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:49 PM

    Are you for real; consultants are top of their game! The Dept has layers and layers of management and a shite computer system/record keeping. I reckon 1st year students in secondary school could give the departments the once over and give them their solutions!!! €75 + expenses too much!!

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:48 AM

    Imagine what good that money would do for a school but instead it goes into the pocket of those shower of….

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:50 AM

    Imagine if they were actually accountable for the advice they were giving. !!!!!

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    Sep 7th 2012, 9:30 AM

    more old bollocks, if he cant do the job without someone holding his hand get rid of him

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    Sep 7th 2012, 9:34 AM

    Well said

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    Mute Eddie Walsh
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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:03 AM

    More tax payers money wasted..
    FFS when will this waste end ?
    There has been hundreds of millions wasted since this crowd took over..
    NAMA paying €500,000 per month on valuations costing millions every year.
    Again money for the boys.
    SIPTU 5 million belonging to HSE not accounted for and nobody brought to task.
    TDs getting paid an allowance just to show up for work.
    A TD defrauds the revenue and not only holds his position in the government but now he is claiming leaders allowance of €41,000 TAX FREE.
    30 million spent on recommending the Matter as the site for the new children’s hospital.Land locked,traffic congested site with no room for future expansion.
    Dogs on the street come to mind .
    And if you think the HSE is in trouble now just wait for the fall out from the property tax because these are the same people that also pay health insurance which will be canceled to pay this tax putting further pressures on the HSE funds.
    I could go on..
    We are heading over a cliff with these idiots running the country..

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    Sep 7th 2012, 11:16 AM

    Well worded hear hear !!!

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    Mute Eddie Walsh
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    Sep 7th 2012, 2:31 PM

    Millions spent by the HSE on redundancies.
    Staff take redundancy on Friday and are back doing the same job Monday through an agency costing 30% more .
    WTF
    Seriously PLEASE someone explain that to me ????
    If this country was a company all the heads of departments would be fired..

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    Sep 7th 2012, 5:04 PM

    Super summary Eddie…and still the Irish public just moan about it…but still no nationwide protests against this ongoing madness…are we thick and stupid? Rise people Rise!!!

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    Sep 8th 2012, 8:27 AM

    @David
    The list of waste is endless
    Back last march or april THE GOVERNMENT spent €85,000 during the process of hiring an internal candidate to replace Kevin Cardiff as the secretary general of the Department of Finance.
    This includes €10,000 spent on advertising and around €75,000 on two different executive search recruitment firms and then promoted John Moran from his position as Second Secretary in the department..

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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:36 AM

    No One from the civil service or the hse multi layers of management was competent enough to undertake this task? Interesting….

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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:37 AM

    The HSE is the largest employer in the state at something like 65000 people directly , I don’t know how many are administration but why do they need to always take on more external advisors at huge costs when they want to do anything meaningful , why can the existing management not be charged to make the changes and recommendations themselves m is that not we pay the administration management to do ?

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    Sep 7th 2012, 2:01 PM

    Bosses who have assistants..who have assistants..who have assistants…need I say more??

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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:10 AM

    There’s clearly been an endemic culture of waste in government for at least the last two decades? Why, oh why, oh why can’t they eliminate it overnight?

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    Sep 7th 2012, 12:12 PM

    You have to want to eliminate it Damocles!!!

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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:28 AM

    political leeches thats all we have in this country soon as they get into power, greedier they get. Time the people took a stand and send some of these obese salaried and expenses money pigs to a slaughter house!

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:51 AM

    Taking the piss or what…

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    Mute Audra Daly
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    Sep 7th 2012, 12:02 PM

    Tell you what guys I’m a frontline line worker I will take leave and do the review for them starting at the top down I can earn my years wages in a couple of weeks way to go me

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    Sep 7th 2012, 2:04 PM

    Me too! I’ll help you…for free!

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:52 AM

    boloxes is it

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    Sep 7th 2012, 9:49 AM

    Wash your mouth out lady!

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    Mute Ru Ni Digs
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    Sep 7th 2012, 12:10 PM

    Mick Collins stop being a troll!!!

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    Mute Les Rock
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    Sep 7th 2012, 11:15 AM

    So he pays a couple of experts. Said experts paid a packet, find very little. Anything that is found no matter how much it will improve the service, will be ignored. Why? Because we have incompetent fools there or we can’t afford to act on the advice of the experts because our bondholders need paying

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    Sep 7th 2012, 11:09 AM

    Thought they had no money.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 11:14 AM

    They have no money to spend on health. paying fat cat’s and advisor’s is a totally different story

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    Sep 7th 2012, 12:33 PM

    its official. They just don’t give a shit and are throwing money at their buddy advisers. Another day of absolute and disgusting waste of funding channelled under the label of a report to wealthy undeserving blood suckers.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 9:45 AM

    You expect him to do every task in the department single handedly? Great, so all the civil servants can be sacked.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 9:43 AM

    shameful stuff this

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    Sep 7th 2012, 12:02 PM

    simple solution let Reilly resign!

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    Sep 7th 2012, 9:33 AM

    Wat a joke

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    Sep 7th 2012, 12:02 PM

    Reilly really knows how to grab a shotgun and aim it at his foot, plonker

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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:35 AM

    Public sector work practice changes, will always be drawn out as opposed to private sector reforms, as the latter
    would simply go under… if working practices could not adapt swiftly,just look at Brendan Holwins promise this
    morning to change “leaders allowances” to a vouched system..in his words “in the lifetime of this government”why
    not next week?next month?..
    The public sector gravy train is a slow old beast,with many carriages to pull..the minute it meets a hill it grinds to a halt…

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    Mute Damien Aulsberry
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    Sep 7th 2012, 12:31 PM

    More reviews wasting Tax payers money. That amount would nearly pay the salary of 3 frontline staff for a year

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    Mute Barry
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    Sep 7th 2012, 9:55 AM

    Jesus the HSE can’t win with you lot, they do nothing and you bitch and when they get somebody in with experience to do a review you still bitch.

    Reviews are time consuming and they are not free especially if they require a third party to be brought in…and this is often what it takes to see problems.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 10:18 AM

    I think the point here is, they bring in all these advisor’s and still do a shit job, why 6 advisor’s.. why not 4 or 2, the tax payer foots the bill for all this we should get something in return instead of all these U turns. All we get is smoke screens and non accountability.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 12:40 PM

    Sorry I agree about the need for reviews but costing 130000 thats where I draw the line.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 12:34 PM

    These reports usually provide excellent advice but it’s the failure of implementation that is the problem.

    There is no political will and vested interests block every attempt at change. Every interest group is outside the Dail when any suggestion of change is mentioned.

    The sad reality is that it is we are completely divided as a nation – we have adopted a every man for himself outlook and politicians respond accordingly to our demands.

    We need to unite as a country under new radical leadership, where it comes from is hard to know.

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    Sep 7th 2012, 12:57 PM

    same old, same old

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:46 AM

    Pertect life I meant

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:49 AM

    third time’s a charm
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    *Protect

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:52 AM

    Thanks Simon iPad keyboards and long nails don’t go together lol

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:54 AM

    you need to get tactile with a keyboard :-) can’t stand them on screen keyboard myself

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    Sep 7th 2012, 8:31 PM

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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    Sep 7th 2012, 1:59 PM

    gggg

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    Sep 13th 2012, 5:54 PM

    Too much money, it takes me a year to earn what one person is going to earn in six weeks. I have no permanent contract, no increments, have to travel 40miles round trip through the bl**dy toll bridge and stuck at 19 hours per week cause we’ve been cut back so much. I am a nurse actually delivering care and having to solve problems everyday in order to try and save the country money. I am totally sick of having my life and occupation diminished by people earning way more than me. Conducting yet another review, writing a report and then have the government say that they do not have to actually follow the recommendations (as has happened so many times before) will probably make me physically sick.

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