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Nurses unions say HSE is "bullying" staff into accepting 15 per cent pay cut

The HSE has rejected claims that it will ask existing nurses to apply for their jobs through a graduate programme that pays 85 per cent of the standard wage.

TWO NURSES UNIONS have said that the HSE is trying to “bully” and “strong-arm” nurses and midwives into accepting a 15 per cent pay cut.

Both the Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation (INMO) and the Psychiatric Nurses Association (PNA) say that existing nurses on temporary contracts will be forced to re-apply for jobs through a graduate scheme that would pay them 85 per cent of a starting nurses wage.

A memo sent to health service managers said that the HSE would begin recruitment in the coming weeks, but that any staff that were on temporary contracts purely to cover agency staff or overtime hours would have to re-apply for jobs through the graduate scheme.

Graduate nurses and midwives will be paid 85 per cent of a full wage for the first year and 90 per cent in their second.

Both unions insist that the Haddington Road agreement specifically provides that the positions filled under the scheme are in addition to the employment ceiling for the health service and that they cannot be used to replace existing fillable vacancies.

INMO deputy general secretary Dave Hughes told TheJournal.ie that existing nurses will have “no appetite” to apply for the jobs at a lower rate.

“We didn’t like the Haddington Road Agreement, but we certainly didn’t think that it would be this bad. The agreement is clear that the graduate scheme jobs would not replace existing posts.

“We will be going back to the Labour Relations Commission, who are the custodians of the Haddington Road Agreement, and asking them to implement the agreed practices.

This is a tactic of desperation and is trying to strong-arm young nurses into taking a 15 per cent pay cut.

However, HSE national HR director Barry O’Brien said that the move was needed to “reduce our dependency on agency and overtime workers”.

“If nurses are there to replace overtime and agency staff, they should avail of the graduate programme,” he told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland.

O’Brien rejected the idea that nurses would be forced onto the graduate scheme, saying “we continue to hire nurses in the usual way”.

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    Mute Sean Minihane
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    Sep 28th 2021, 7:47 PM

    Fair play to the Irish government. They have done a great job steering the ship.

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    Mute Paul Hedderman
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    Sep 28th 2021, 9:08 PM

    @Sean Minihane: Only since July 2021

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    Mute Tony Gordon
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    Sep 28th 2021, 9:49 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: yup, all the planing just magically appeared in July.

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    Mute Paul Hedderman
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    Sep 28th 2021, 10:43 PM

    @Tony Gordon: Vaccine rollout aside did they really do a good job “steering the ship” in your opinion?

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    Mute Ger
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    Sep 29th 2021, 2:14 AM

    @Paul Hedderman: yes they did, in my opinion. Their 2 biggest missteps was not planning sufficiently for nursing homes at the very beginning, which in fairness every country got wrong. And then reopening in December at the beginning of the Delta outbreak. Aside from that we have done very well, far better than most of Europe.

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    Mute Paul Hedderman
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    Sep 29th 2021, 10:58 AM

    @Ger: Delaying locking down for the first lockdown when other European States were locking down around us and covid confirmed a few weeks prior. No engagement with highly effected sectors. Lack of communication to public, conflicting information, leaks. Conflicting rules. Not allowing businesses to open sooner when they could operate safely. Only telling us socialising outdoors was safe just before the summer when it suited their agenda. Not preparing schools properly. Not implementing mass rapid testing, to name but a few…….. Re christmas (UK variant) they had to ease restrictions, public would have gone mad and ignored them if they didnt, that wave was inevitable as it started weeks before easing, with new variant, Christmas and 2 months of level 5 prior it was the perfect storm.

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    Mute Raysdaisy
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    Sep 29th 2021, 11:11 AM

    @Sean Minihane: RTE will be disgusted. They are still trying to stir it.

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    Mute Paul Whitehead
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    Sep 28th 2021, 7:51 PM

    It has been a remarkable achievement. Let’s hope it continues.

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    Mute Niels
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    Sep 28th 2021, 7:51 PM

    All the overly dramatic commenters posting ‘open the pubs’ on here every day for the past 18months should have a look at that Bloomberg article and see how much more restrictive the lockdowns were in other European countries.

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    Mute Ronan Walsh
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    Sep 28th 2021, 8:01 PM

    @Niels: Exactly, imagine your priority in the middle of a pandemic being whether the pubs are open or not , a horribly negative benchmark to use.

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    Mute Paul Hedderman
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    Sep 28th 2021, 8:30 PM

    @Niels: only 5 European countries on the list higher than us for restrictions, 6 if you include Turkey…… We’re only in the top 10 in that chart of only 53 countries since mid summer. Article is titled “The Best and Worst Places to Be as We Learn to Live With Delta”…. Not “countries have performed the best through the whole pandemic”…. Vaccine rollout was a great success. Handling of the first year and a bit of it was shocking by govt, particularly the start… I’d take that report with a pinch of salt. Our universal healthcare score is 90 somehow and I wonder how much weight GDP growth forecast goes towards the rank. Hard to see how were better than Denmark when they have more vaxd, better healthcare, less restrictions, nearly half the cases and deaths compared to us since delta.

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    Mute John Black
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    Sep 28th 2021, 8:47 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: they also don’t share a border with the UK who have been a disaster throughout the pandemic, that’s a massive point going in their favour

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    Mute Joe_X
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    Sep 28th 2021, 9:11 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: I don’t understand how we managed to knock Norway off the top spot to tell the truth, As John just pointed out to you, we share a land border with the UK, but Norway shares with Sweden and when you compare those two, the difference is purely due to the difference in the paths taken by the authorities of both countries.

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    Sep 28th 2021, 9:20 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: Sorry, hit wrong key. Anyway, that said, I’ve no issue with our government’ response, and as to various comments of only since the mid summer, it is a report that is done monthly, so depending on how it goes, we may be further down the list again next month.

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    Sep 28th 2021, 8:06 PM

    Great government leadership and commitment from all in the health service. Very proud of our efforts.

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    Mute murt de murty
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    Sep 28th 2021, 7:35 PM

    I’m happy with it- come at me.

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    Mute Ger Cassidy
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    Sep 28th 2021, 7:40 PM

    @murt de murty: wont be long now ;)

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    Mute John A. Dixon
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    Sep 28th 2021, 8:28 PM

    While not perfect, it certainly could have been better.
    But credit where it due, we did a decent job….and still are.

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    Mute Dan Duggan
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    Sep 28th 2021, 8:35 PM

    And v little congrats to The minister for health. How the shinners piled on to him

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    Mute Hugh Morris
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    Sep 28th 2021, 7:49 PM

    And the public never doubted the government for a second

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    Mute Tony Gordon
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    Sep 28th 2021, 9:52 PM

    Proud of the majority of Irish people not succumbing to the nonsense and believing is good science.

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    Mute Nick Caffrey
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    Sep 28th 2021, 11:43 PM

    @Tony Gordon: Indeed! Long may it last!

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    Sep 28th 2021, 8:05 PM

    Open the pubs properly!

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    Mute Diarmuid Hunt
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    Sep 28th 2021, 8:25 PM

    @Wolfgang Hanratty: Try harder

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    Mute Joe_X
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    Sep 28th 2021, 9:21 PM

    @Wolfgang Hanratty: did you get a thrill saying that?

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    Mute Anarch Eco
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    Sep 28th 2021, 9:30 PM

    @Joe_X: open the pubs and reverse the smoking ban.

    And free plastic bags while you re at it.

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    Sep 28th 2021, 10:38 PM

    @Anarch Eco: A right rebel, you are!

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    Mute Eamonn Keating
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    Sep 28th 2021, 7:59 PM

    Enda was right. We’re the best little country in the world to get Covid in.

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    Mute Jonathan
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    Sep 28th 2021, 9:07 PM

    We won

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    Sep 28th 2021, 9:28 PM

    @Jonathan:
    We are winning, unfortunately this is not beat yet…
    Let’s just hope Tony got this right and opening will be handled…
    Still 1 in 5 from 18 to 49 are not vaccinated… we can do better there, that would massively reduce the risk of another lockdown…

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    Mute Tom Halpin
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    Sep 29th 2021, 6:35 AM

    Feck the begrudgers is my favourite old Dublin saying It could have been invented for the comments section of the Journal.ie.

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    Mute Munster1
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    Sep 28th 2021, 10:28 PM

    Pity it took a year to implement hotel quarantine

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    Mute Paul Cunningham
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    Sep 28th 2021, 9:58 PM

    It could have been so much better, especially with fumble after fumble in 2020 and the worst implementation of quarantine ever. We made it across the line eventually though with an excellent vaccination rate. Government can’t take credit for that.

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    Mute Sean
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    Sep 28th 2021, 10:19 PM

    @Paul Cunningham: The vaccines fell out of the sky then did they?

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    Mute Joe_X
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    Sep 28th 2021, 10:47 PM

    @Paul Cunningham: But they learned as they went from the mistakes, which is the important thing. Remember, for most people, this is a once in a lifetime event. Very few who lived through the Spanish flu pandemic of just over a hundred years ago are alive today. It’s not as if any government knew what to do when it kicked off, and the next time something like it occurs, hopefully, not at least for another hundred years or more, mistakes will be made again for the exact same reason.

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    Mute Michael Flanagan
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    Sep 29th 2021, 5:01 AM

    ‘The next two weeks are vital’ – still it implies an intelligent educated population in this country

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    Mute Csilla
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    Sep 28th 2021, 10:44 PM

    Remembering when New Zealand’s Ms Ardern said last year: ‘I was just looking at Ireland, their stepping down is taking them through to July before some people are back in work.”

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    Mute Mick Dunne
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    Sep 29th 2021, 10:17 AM

    I disagree when they say that Ireland was the worst in the world at the start of the year.India was actually the worst in the world.

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    Mute Ger O'Reilly
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    Sep 29th 2021, 1:12 PM

    Looks great when you apply the Trump formula for bringing down the numbers. Stop doing tests and the positivity numbers drop. Or someone has an underlying health condition and dies with Covid then they didn’t die of Covid according to Leo the leak. Don’t report the daily deaths and Looks like we’re heading in the right direction.

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    Mute Em Gee
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    Sep 29th 2021, 4:27 PM

    Bualadh bos! Aren’t we great! All we had to do was throw away everything our ancestors fought for! They’re spinning in their graves now but shur we can hook them up to the grid to make up for the shortfall in power caused by closing Irish power stations and giving away our electricity to data centres. We’re a great little country!

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