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Concern over whether hospital will comply with abortion legislation

Professor John Crown has said that “serious questions have to be asked” of governing boards at Irish hospitals.

CONCERN HAS BEEN raised over comments from a member of the Mater hospital board of governors that it “cannot comply” with the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Act.

Fr Kevin Doran told The Irish Times today that the Dublin hospital’s board is to meet to see whether or how it will abide by the legislation, which provides for a woman’s right to an abortion in life-saving circumstances.

The Mater is one of 25 ‘appropriate institutions’ named in the act where such abortions could take place.

A spokesperson for the Department of Health said it has not yet been decided if the Department will make an official statement on the matter.

Senator and Professor John Crown told TheJournal.ie that the statement “just raised my ire” this morning.

He said that the comments from Fr Doran were “outrageous”.

Crown noted that he has previously said himself that he believes refusing life-saving treatment or drugs at a hospital because of Catholic ethos means “you are not pro-life – you are pro-death”.

He said that “serious questions have to be asked” of governing boards at hospitals, and whether religious institutions divested themselves of hospitals to divest themselves of assets when facing abuse claims, while retaining management control.

“The Mater needs to carefully look at what they are saying here,” said Senator Crown.

He said that Ireland needs a fundamental reform of its hospital service, where there can be religious hospitals who have their own rules, but that people should be free to choose which hospital they attend.

However, he fears that under proposed hospital groupings, “people will lose these options”. Health Minister James Reilly plans to create six regional groupings for the State’s hospitals.

Each group would contain between six and eleven hospitals, including one major teaching hospital. Minister Reilly described it as a “fundamental modernisation of our health system organisation”.

Healthcare staff will be expected to work across a group rather than in individual hospitals.

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    Mute micheal duff
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    Mar 6th 2025, 12:44 AM

    Makes you cry. Govt body keeping secrets, from the public.

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    Mute Dominic Leleu
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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:48 AM

    @micheal duff: fix the pipes with your billions instead of spending on useless things.
    hello ??.. ah yes there is nobody home… too busy with with rights and speech.

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    Mute James Rowan
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    Mar 6th 2025, 8:42 AM

    @micheal duff: I wonder Buster do the people you steal their profile picture know you use them on this site with your multiple profiles?

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    Mute Glenn Halpin
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    Mar 6th 2025, 9:49 AM

    @micheal duff: so basically Journal Investigates in conjunction with Irish Water need to build a case for water levies directly on households and needs to build evidence through consumer complaints of unsustainable infrastructure in order to build that case to Gov, for to make another push to further this agenda.

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    Mute Social Guy
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    Mar 6th 2025, 12:37 AM

    Why didn’t the TDs and councillors direct their constituents to make a direct complaint? In fairness, everyone should know to make a complaint to the responsible entity – TD/councillor should only be a last resort. €30 compensation is an absolute insult and doesn’t even cover the time to make & follow up on the complaint. The attempt to block the foi request was equally pathetic – how can a state/semi state body claim that reporting the truth might be a bad thing? This country has really gone downhill.

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    Mute Dominic Leleu
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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:57 AM

    @Social Guy: because once elected that was not their problem. not once they even made a statement about all that. they were forming a big gvt and got and still busy with speech rights and look after themselves. MM love nothing else to lecture everyone on international politics but never cared about the people. neutrality is not a concern either for him

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    Mute Jerry LeFrog
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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:57 AM

    @Social Guy: that’s how “national” politics work in this country… The gombeen way: fix the potholes and attend funerals.
    I even know of a foreign (European) national getting his local TD to contact his embassy in Dublin to expedite a passport renewal. Seriously?

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    Mute MIchael Costello
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    Mar 6th 2025, 1:32 PM

    @Social Guy: Agree, but would like to add, 1) TD’s & local councillors more than likely don’t/didn’t know about the €30 compensation scheme, 2) people are getting lazy. If they can get someone else to complain on their behalf, it make life easy for them. The time it took to send a letter/email, or indeed, make an appointment to see their local government representative, they would have had a communication sent of to the company.

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    Mute Paul Gorry
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    Mar 6th 2025, 12:51 AM

    Just more fffg bolicitics. People, please relise fffg are a failure. They don’t care. It’s not rocket science.

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    Mute Eoin McCarthy
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    Mar 6th 2025, 6:55 AM

    @Paul Gorry: If they were a failure and the people realised it, how are they now in government again? Must be that people voted for them.

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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:15 AM

    @Eoin McCarthy: No shi,t sherlock.

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    Mute Kieran Menon
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    Mar 6th 2025, 9:16 AM

    @Eoin McCarthy: people of this country are its own worst enemy…

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    Mute pat fogarty
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    Mar 6th 2025, 5:57 AM

    Irish Water does not have customers. It is a state-owned Dept. Very unusual article. Because it’s a state owned dept, surely going your local representative is the correct move?

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    Mute Stephen Fitzgerald
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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:37 AM

    @pat fogarty: It’s not a department. It is a private company with the state as its largest shareholder. Company number 530363 (CRO).

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    Mute pat fogarty
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    Mar 6th 2025, 8:04 AM

    @Stephen Fitzgerald: yes you are correct for the most part. Except for the “the state is its largest shareholder” don’t want to not pick but I think is important for everyone to know.

    This is copied directly from Irish waters website on corporate governence –
    “The shareholders of Uisce Éireann are the Minister for Public Expenditure, NDP Delivery and Reform and the Minister for Housing, Local Government and Heritage and, on that basis, Uisce Éireann is a state-owned entity.”

    So, the ONLY shareholders in uisce eireann are state bodies.

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    Mar 6th 2025, 6:29 AM

    Ireland needs its very own DOGE, I can just imagine what corruption would come to light.

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    Mute Nigel Hayden
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    Mar 6th 2025, 8:54 AM

    @Pelagius Asturias: never going to happen unfortunately

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    Mute Les Walsh
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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:00 AM

    Our water filtration company from Wexford has proven in a year long pilot in Canada to prevent the carcinogenic chemical THM from forming in potable water.

    In 2017 a prime time report stated over 170,000 people in Ireland were drinking water Exceeding the 100U/gl WHO guidelines for THM

    After 7 months of paperwork we were granted a Zoom call with Uisce Éireann.

    We offered to run a free pilot on any water treatment plant that was failing THM guidelines.

    We were told that our proven filtration system would not work on THM’s in Ireland ?

    They would not be taken us up on the offer of a free trial ?

    We have offered free trials to Uisce Éireann on manganese and iron removal from potable Water which we have a proven to have a 90% reduction using our filtration system.

    No reply to date?

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    Mute Mr “JonnieBoy” Johnson
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    Mar 6th 2025, 11:04 AM

    @Les Walsh: that’s just weird and needs investigation

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    Mute Tommy
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    Mar 6th 2025, 4:41 AM

    and Who set up Irish Water? TD’s and Senators along with the President signing stealth tax legislation on already crippled taxpayers.

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    Mute Ethan Gannon
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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:32 AM

    In other words, ‘we don’t want people to know how big a problem it is because then they will know how big a problem it is’. Honestly, is there a single thing the government does well?

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    Mute sakk sa
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    Mar 6th 2025, 1:28 AM

    ireland + pharmaceutical =Dark waters

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    Mute Max
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    Mar 6th 2025, 6:50 AM

    How can you get compensation for something you don’t pay for

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    Mute Martin Kenny
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    Mar 6th 2025, 6:56 AM

    @Max: I’m afraid that’s the country we live in now, want everything for nothing and compo for everything

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    Mute donal finn
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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:15 AM

    @Martin Kenny: Guess you are retired with a good pension and maybe have a bit of property?

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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:18 AM

    @donal finn: no, but please explain your reasons for that assumption

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    Mute David Murphy
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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:38 AM

    @Max: exactly.

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    Mute Willie Marty
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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:49 AM

    @Martin Kenny: well said.How people come up with these assumptions is beyond me.Even if you were retired on a big pension and had property what has that got to do with it.

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    Mute Toca Stories
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    Mar 6th 2025, 8:10 AM

    @Max: it’s long been established that we do pay for it through general taxation including, strangely ill admit, car tax….where do you think their funding comes from, the magic money tree…

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    Mute Pat Redmond
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    Mar 6th 2025, 9:23 AM

    @Max: you are entitled a good standard of customer service , which is in their charter. If they fail they pay.

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    Mute Pat Redmond
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    Mar 6th 2025, 9:24 AM

    @Max: if they failed to deliver proper customer service they pay.

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    Mute Matt D
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    Mar 6th 2025, 5:04 AM

    Customers

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    Mute donal finn
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    Mar 6th 2025, 7:13 AM

    Journal ‘reporter’? That’s a laugh. Get a proof reader while you are at it. FFG mouthpiece.

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    Mute 9213caroline
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    Mar 6th 2025, 8:02 AM

    Is our water save to Drink ? is the question I want answered. I started drinking water from a “spring well” that is running constantly for the past few months and just the other day at work, I decided to get water from the cooler. Well, could I taste the difference. I thought I was back in the swimming pool where I swallowed the water there. OMG, is this safe I said to myself. 1st person I went to was one of our colleagues who is pregnant. Told her to stop drinking this water immediately and gave her directions to get the spring water to drink in future.

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    Mute Pat Redmond
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    Mar 6th 2025, 9:25 AM

    SSE Airtricity gas and electricity should be next up for an investigation into their so called customer service.

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    Mute Tom L
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    Mar 6th 2025, 8:20 AM

    30 euro…. not worth 15 of my time

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