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TWO MEN ARRESTED over suspected fraud in the Dublin area today are believed to be members of An Garda Siochána.
Gardaí investigating suspected fraudulent activity in the Dublin area arrested two males this morning.
The arrests were as part of an investigation by the Garda National Bureau of Criminal Investigation into alleged fraudulent activity. The two males, who are in their 30s, were arrested this morning in the Dublin area.
They are both currently being detained at Leixlip Garda Stations under the provisions of Section 4 of the Criminal Justice Act 1984.
It is understood the two men are gardaí.
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Talk about padding the article. So what you have here is…
Two Gardai arrested for fraud this morning….
Being held in Leixlip Garda station…
We don’t know the full details yet…
More to follow…
I prefer “more to follow” to “let’s make details up”.
no padding there, you’re not a guard per chance?
lmao, the guards are coming out in force already.
do some paperwork or something, stop wasting our money.
The guards were arrested this morning. It is believed that the two guards arrested were men. Two males were arrested thiss morning as part of an investigation. The two that were arrested worked as guards… What the hell are you at woman, we got out the first time..
would the gardai herein leave the table and get on with the job they took the oath for…its called policing
Who was arrested and what were they arrested for? The article is somewhat unclear.
Wongstie, no need to be so rude, eh?
Thanks
Aoife
‘The article is somewhat unclear’
Ask the desk sergeant to explain it to you.
What’s a desk sergeant Tom? I think someone has been watching too much telly.
How many were arrested? ;-)
What were they arrested for??
I think two women were arrested for something. ..im not quite sure what…
Is this a riddle ??
They’re allowed days off Harry and even indulge in reading the news sometimes….
Ah Aoife don’t get your knickers in a twist… were you plastered writing that article? Its hilarious to be fair :-D
I’d like to take you on a date… you could say something like… “I think I’ll have a glass of wine, a glass of red wine is what I’ll have, red wine is what I’ll have today, today is a lovely day for drinking red wine, red wine is tasty, ya red wine will be what I’ll drink, the glass of red wine will be a medium size glass, yum yum yum, get in my belly red wine…” :-D
Please can someone get wongstie a doctor before they all go on strike. I fear for his sanity!!!!
Is that the leading question or a trick question@ieoinu
:-D I think the answers to the riddle Aoife put together is 7…
Two gardai were arrested wearing hats. They worked as gardai in a garda station, when they were arrested the hats had puctures of cats on them. What colour socks were the men wearing…
In every organisation you will always get a couple of dodgy people. If the Garda service was that bad and tried covering it up do you think these arrests would have been made?
Yes. Been so simplistic is a terrible mistake when there are different situations with gardai and corruption across the country. Look at Mick Wallace bill. They had as many cases of corruption as they do gardai in the force it was an insane number.
This country is corrupt, but we need good men and women to rise above the crap and let the law of the land dictate here.
So tom, your house is being burgled, you car is being stolen, you have been assaulted….who would YOU call?
Tom I am afraid if you look at the regulation of the guards and lack of independent oversight you will find quite the opposite. There is no accountability in the force. Few examples here for you – http://www.corruptioninireland.com/
Ghostbusters !. Hold on Wait a minute..
Kevin. The Gardai are 13000 strong. Are you trying to tell us in an organization that large there are not going to be a few rogue elements? That’d like saying you are surprised that that there are Gays and Lesbians in the population. The Gardai are human and just like every other human you have good and bad.
I’m sorry Kevin are you having a laugh. You talk about corruption and in the same sentence mention Mick Wallace and his efforts to introduce legislation to tackle the corruption that he perceives to exist.
Surely you see the irony.
Someone call????
Ghostbusters
I agree with that of course but his bill which called for independent oversight was voted down. Independent oversight would reduce corruption which is key in majority of police forces across the world. No need to spin my word or judge Wallace who cares who brings it in the bill makes perfect sense and there are no arguments against it.
But Kevin independent oversight already exists in the form of the Ombudsman.
I believe this bill was defeated as firstly it was unnecessary and secondly because of the quasi criminal antics of the person who proposed it, it was seen as a vexatious piece of legislation.
I would say it is not an enviable task to administer justice and work in an area of ‘preventing and detecting’ crime in an Ireland and an Irish society such as the one we live in today where it seems the core organs of the state are inherently corrupt. I am referring to previous and successive governments which have proven time and again to have engaged in corrupt practice which has essentially left our country bankrupt. I can only imagine that police officers would be even more aware of this and could lead to a ‘if you can’t beat them join them’ attitude which is human behaviour and no oaths, job description or anything else would deter that.
SAUL
precisely, give Saul a call and don’t forget to keep Huell happy….could be a trip to Belize if you’re “lucky” :-)
Moi?
Been busy checking for WMD on the road to Damascus…
Let me guess your a criminal. You would know by the bitterness . As a retired Garda I am delighted to see these people caught.
@gerrymiah but you have to be retired to say that,,,,”otherwise you would be hounded
Can’t break the ranks………
And as a retired Garda you would know that they are innocent until proven guilty. If they are found guilty their punishment should befit the crime.
Jesus Tom you’re like a child on Xmas morning would you relax before you wet yourself with excitement an stop posting the same comment in every thread!
the camera dose work it appears and there is little hope of shredding the evidence Time will tell
ieoinu@ but the judge might be told you are a garda and then he cant send to jail as per case reported papers. Cartel power beyond justice???
Damn Tom you appear to have a serious boner for the guards. Three comments within 2 minutes.
a relative of mine gave his name as gaelige to two guards a few weeks ago, was promptly arrested, taken to the station and was given a few slaps for his troubles.
Case is with the ombudsman. Thank god the garda complaints board are gone.
Tom – he was arrested for talking Irish? Wowzers. That sounds totally like the full story.
Scar- the fact you don’t believe this truth only shows the grip gardai have on society.
Definitely Tom, that’s what I was just thinking too. :)
Yep that’s the full story I’d say alright. Lol.
Seems they can’t do right for doing wrong here. Had this article said “Gardai didn’t arrest Gardai” I fear a lot of posters finding fault would be straight on condemning their lack of action!
guards not arresting gardai was common enough up until we got an ombudsman.
Thats fantastic tom. What niall is saying is that the gardaí have arrested their colleagues as they suspect them for committing an offence. Times have changed tom, you can change with them or stay in the past.
You’re right Niall. The problem is this and previous Governments have hacked peoples living standards to shreds consequently people including cops do things that they wouldn’t normally do to ease their lives.
In 1992 (I think) the then English Chancellor of the Exchequer Nigal Lawson said that “unemployment was the price for keeping inflation down. And it was a price worth paying” And in there is the nub of all our problems.
Our Government and I include FF in this have bowed the knee to the Germans to accommodate their fear of inflation and as a result WE are suffering and paying the price with deflation!
And that is one of the reasons why people including Police, Doctors, Builders, Employed, Unemployed, Retired, Disabled and the Young are all doing whatever they can in an effort to make life bearable. Sadly some even take their own lives to escape the pain.
So instead of us doing what our cruel and callous Government want us to do, fight with each other we should stand together and try to find a peaceful way to take back OUR COUNTRY from those who are destroying it and us.
So please people lets stop bashing the cops and each other.
os,
garai arrested gardai because the banks told them too.
They were arrested on suspicion of a crime. This is what that gardai do, investigate crime.
Great comment
An injured party made a complaint to gardaí about alleged incidents. Doesn’t matter if its a bank or a pensioner. Incidents are being investigated by gardaí, I’m confused why you’re constantly cynical tom.
Leave him in the past, I’d say he’d be happier….
Lordy Clark you have a serious chip there boy….
Its proof the Garda are the best police force in the world, even a few bad apples in the bunch will be sorted out.
That ‘article’ could have been written in two sentences. The same details were given over and over!
I think Tom will always complain about the gardai,how will he know when good men and women actually “rise up ” ?? Therfore all he will ever do is complain and complain and make stupid irrational off the cuff, uninformed and uneducated remarks painting all with the same brush, off with their heads he will be spouting next.
It’s a pity the ombudsman wasn’t around in the 1970′s to the 90′s.
The guards got away with a lot then, the guards are still going ballistic that we have an ombudsman.
‘troll’
rflmao…let me guess, you’re a guard.
Spot the bitterness and you spot a guard.
Tom, WHERE are all these gaurds you see and more importantly are any of them single?!
all what guards sarah, explain yourself.
On a number of articles you have said you have Garda “friends.” I’m sure ages asking are any of your “friends”(I wonder how you made these friends?) single…
No not his imaginary friends but he calls anyone who disagrees with him on here a gaurd! How am I missing all these gaurds on the Journal, I never see any!
Tom your a star really. The need yo comment continuously. Biased much? Dont expect you to answer honestly but you do have points for speeding or convictions. The my friend had this happen to them is 3rd hand by an anonymous person on Internet. Very credible ;)
Anyway back to more important matters. Sue looks amazing :)
Sue does look amazing
Indeed she does :) smart to top it off.
I honestly can’t think of anything more despicable than a bent cop!!
Sure why don’t we go the whole hog, 13,000???
Have you an ex that was a garda tom?
Tom where do you get 2000 from?
The only thing worse than a bent cop is a bent fork. I hate when the prongs on a fork are bent!
Tom is that a reference to the possibility of 2000 homosexual gardaí or 2000 gardaí that are corrupt. Either way how did you get to that figure
Think Ming was right in the end.
The corrupt actions of the few get a name on the many.
The lack of independent investigation of the few is the story.
Why are they being ‘detailed’. Did the station hand them out colouring books.
Okay, I’m going to wade into this cesspool of ignorance for a moment even though I feel I’d probably have more luck teaching my dog algebra than trying to promote a somewhat reasonable discussion in the comments section of The Journal.
Could somebody please explain to me why they are against creating a better system of accountability for An Garda Siochana? Accountability promotes transparency, transparency promotes trust. Those guilty of corruption have a greater chance of being held accountable and the general populace have more faith in those who are policing their communities.
Before the name calling and personal attacks against me commence I’d also like to point out that asking for a more accountable police force is not an attack on every member of said force.
I don’t see a problem with an accountable police force. To be honest I think An Garda Siochana is very accountable as is.
The problem people on this site seem to have is that when a member of An Garda Siochana is accused of something we don’t execute them immediately. A lot commenting here forget that just like anybody accused of criminality they are entitled to due process also they are innocent until proven guilty.
Of course, nobody who is innocent should suffer the indignity of being labelled guilty. Many of the posts here are ridiculous and should be dismissed as such. I don’t really agree that An Garda Siochana is very accountable as is.
I’m happy to have my views on Garda accountability challenged and I am willing to change them if people can explain to me how they believe the current system is adequate. Perhaps there are Gardai here who had a part in GSOC investigations who are more aware of the inner workings of both organisations than I am. I know I’m approaching the issue from a position of relative ignorance but I only have access to information that’s in the public domain.
Personally, I don’t believe the GSOC can adequately do the job it is tasked with doing. They do their best with the resources at their disposal. On several occasions they have been forced to resort to complaining in the media about Garda non cooperation with investigations in the vain hope that they can shame people into action. This exacerbates an already unhealthy relationship between Garda heirarchy and the the body tasked with promoting police accountability and investigating complaints. There doesn’t seem to be adequate protection of Gardai who report colleagues who are engaged in corrupt activities. This is especially worrying when you consider that in order to have an accountable police force you need to have people within the force who are willing to draw attention to corrupt practices. How can we expect Gardai to report instances of abuse if doing so could damage their chances of promotion or result in them being isolated and excluded by their colleagues? I honestly believe that the vast majority of An Garda Siochana is made up of good people, we should be making it easier for these people to report abuses of power instead we seem determined to make it as difficult as possible. Look what happened to the Sergeant who brought attention to the penalty points scandal.
I’m happy to admit every experience I have had with the Gardai has been pleasant. On the rare occasion when I have been stopped at a check point or bagged driving home from work they have always been professional. I don’t have an axe to grind and I’m merely basing my opinion on what I have read and what I believe to be common sense.
Power can breed contempt and contempt for the people of ireland needs to be brought to justice,13000 of you and so much crime unsolved and committed
You’ve just read an article about arrests for a crime committed. In fact, pick up a newspaper you’ll find lots of similar articles and probably a discussion on how to deal with our over crowded prisons . . . Seems like alot of crimes being solved to me!
STOP !
HARRY TIME.
Yes and just one of you and so much bullshit
the state radio has just announced that the two gardai held are being questioned about matters of banking
Thanks for that Sherlock.
but you as a garda marty knew before the press
Keep us updated on this story Harry won’t you! You must be more excited with this story than when you log onto Facebook to chat to all of them semi naked young fellas.
One thing is certain, if they are eventually found guilty of any crime, they will face the full rigours of the law, a slap on the wrist.
I agree but not because they are guards but because of our insignificant judicial system which sees taxpayer money squandered making example out of minor offences and effectively allowing serious crime go unpunished. The penalties for crime need to far exceed the crime as a deterrent… I.e how many people would drink drive if it was a 30,000 fine? Noone!
Who needs criminals when you have Garda to do the robbing
They’re being “detailed at Leixlip Garda Station”? wot, go-fast stripes?
That station is an eyesore. Fraud is something that everybody else commits bar the banks.
It must be serious, because normally it would be just brushed under the door mat.
Yawn!
Leixlip Garda station, OMG they will be in no time released and would get a away with it.
Sue is gaining fans which makes a pleasant change.
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