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"Recreating a second Dáil does the country no favours" - Regina Doherty

The chairman of the Democracy Matters campaign campaign was challenged to “name one significant thing the Seanad has done”, but argued that he is not defending the current system.

FINE GAEL’S DEPUTY director of elections has said that reforming the Seanad would not affect the powers of the Seanad.

Regina Doherty told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland that plans by a pro-Seanad group Democracy Matters to reform the Seanad would be a “waste of money”.

“The reason we haven’t tried to reform the Seanad is because recreating a second Dáil does absolutely no favours for the people of this country except give a second chamber that does the exact same as the first, which would be a complete waste of money.”

Doherty says that the Seanad’s excercising of its power, which has only been done twice in 75 years, means that it is not a necessary part of the democratic system in Ireland.

During the debate, Democracy Matters chairman Gary Murphy was asked by Morning Ireland host Gavin Jennings to “name one significant thing the Seanad has ever done”.

He responded by saying that it “offers an alternative viewpoint” and accused the government of being “deeply sceptical” in their handling of the Seanad.

Speaking after the debate, Doherty said that the inability of Murphy to offer a significant achievement of the Seanad exposed “the credibility gap” of the No campaign.

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    Mute shake n’ break
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    May 6th 2020, 11:00 AM

    “Primarily used in farming as a fertiliser”. No, no it isn’t.

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    Mute John Mc Donagh
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    May 6th 2020, 11:07 AM

    @shake n’ break: dead right it isn’t ——Makes me wonder what kind of a bo***x wrote that

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    Mute john doe
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    May 6th 2020, 11:08 AM

    @shake n’ break: what would it have been doing on a farm?

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    Mute Sean Fahey
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    May 6th 2020, 11:14 AM

    @john doe: Don’t ever buy your spuds off those lads John, while they’re putting liquid nitrogen in their tea to cool it down because the kettle boiled too hot, farmers use it to replenish nitrogen in the soil between harvests as it’s probably the single most important element in farming outside of H2O.

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    Mute Gavin Cronin
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    May 6th 2020, 11:15 AM
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    Mute Joe Toner
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    May 6th 2020, 11:19 AM

    @shake n’ break:
    The containers in the photo look like AI sperm sample tanks.

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    Mute Aidan Haughey
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    May 6th 2020, 11:20 AM

    @Gavin Cronin:

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    Mute JayK
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    May 6th 2020, 11:36 AM

    You fertilise with liquid nitrogen to grow frozen vegetables for the supermarket. Also give it to cows and they make ice cream.

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    Mute shake n’ break
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    May 6th 2020, 12:06 PM

    @Gavin Cronin: the stuff in your link is a solution that contains nitrates, like a liquid form of fertiliser. Liquid nitrogen is -200d/C and used to store semen and embryos on farms.

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    Mute James Lane
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    May 6th 2020, 10:15 PM

    @shake n’ break: As a fertiliser ??

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    Mute Peter Jo
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    May 6th 2020, 10:55 AM

    It’s a cold case

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    Mute Patrick Agnew
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    May 6th 2020, 10:58 AM

    @Peter Jo: it’s say whoever lost that stuff thinks you’re a real comedian mate

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    Mute The Ayurvedic
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    May 6th 2020, 11:15 AM

    @Peter Jo: bravo.

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    Mute Owen O'Murchú
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    May 6th 2020, 12:17 PM

    @Patrick Agnew: I bet you’re there life and soul of a party.

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    Mute Ciaran Farrelly
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    May 6th 2020, 12:30 PM

    @Patrick Agnew: I’d say you’re great craic to be out with down the local and have an amazing sense of humour. Lol

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    Mute Brian Stafford
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    May 6th 2020, 10:57 AM

    My god, they better be careful. That’s stuff would be friesian!

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    Mute John Considine
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    May 6th 2020, 11:00 AM

    I hope the thieves dip their Mickies in it.

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    Mute Ciarán Ó Dubhda
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    May 6th 2020, 11:02 AM

    Hope the see you next Tuesday’s get around in a circle and all edge in closer to have a good look at the container just as its being opened.

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    Mute Crocodylus Pontifex
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    May 6th 2020, 11:14 AM

    Put my finger in liquid nitrogen a few years back. It was extremely painful, wouldn’t recommend.

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    Mute D Mems
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    May 6th 2020, 11:45 AM

    @Crocodylus Pontifex: what inspired you to do that?

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    Mute Mel Finn
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    May 6th 2020, 11:45 AM

    @Crocodylus Pontifex: So did i…..THE WIFE

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    Mute Crocodylus Pontifex
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    May 6th 2020, 12:12 PM

    @D Mems: Ice cream was served over a bowl of the stuff. I was after a few glasses of wine, it was bubbling away. Had to try it.

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    Mute sean o'dhubhghaill
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    May 6th 2020, 11:12 AM

    Used as a. Fertiliser? Who writes this garbage?

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    Mute Gavin Cronin
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    May 6th 2020, 11:16 AM
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    Mute sean o'dhubhghaill
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    May 6th 2020, 11:26 AM

    @Gavin Cronin: Despite the headline that isn’t Liquid Nitrogen. It is a liquid nitrate fertiliser. A COMPLETELY different thing.

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    Mute sean o'dhubhghaill
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    May 6th 2020, 11:30 AM

    @Gavin Cronin: From your link: “Omex material is UAN (50% urea, 25% ammonium and 25% nitrate).”

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    Mute Martin
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    May 6th 2020, 12:45 PM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: gavin is trying to look smart all over this comment section but is looking more like an idiot, the lad obviously skipped science in school!

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    Mute Chloë Johnson
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    May 6th 2020, 12:07 PM

    There is some confusion here. It seems to be an unfortunate name they have given to a convenient liquid fertiliser rich in nitrogen. It’s not liquid nitrogen that you’d have in a lab. Using liquid N2 wouldn’t make much sense as it would evaporate too quickly for nitrogen fixing bacteria to even notice it was there.

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    Mute Martin
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    May 6th 2020, 12:49 PM

    @Chloë Johnson: I still think you are confused! That picture is an insulated flask used for storing bull semen in straws which is filled with liquid nitrogen, which used to be the gas nitrogen, which has been distilled from plain old air!

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    Mute Chloë Johnson
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    May 6th 2020, 7:30 PM

    @Martin: using liq N2 for cooling samples makes a lot more sense than as a fertiliser! I was wracking my brains trying to understand why a farm would need it, thanks for clearing it up! But the article (and many comments) still seem to confuse a certain similarly named fertiliser with very very cold N2

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    Mute Chloë Johnson
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    May 6th 2020, 8:04 PM

    @Martin: maybe you went a bit far explaining liquid nitrogen to a chemist though

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    Mute Michael Patrick Newell
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    May 6th 2020, 11:41 AM

    Dr Evil and his henchmen stole it and he will now demand €1 million dollars in cold hard cash to have them returned mwhahaha

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    Mute Richie Cosgrove
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    May 6th 2020, 12:00 PM

    @Michael Patrick Newell: Log off, Michael. Thanks.

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    Mute Ray Fitzharris
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    May 6th 2020, 3:54 PM

    @Michael Patrick Newell:

    cash will do, he can cool and harden it himself ;)

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    Mute John Mulligan
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    May 6th 2020, 1:44 PM

    Don’t open them yokes in the livin van, mikey.

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    Mute Michael Reilly
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    May 6th 2020, 3:03 PM

    @John Mulligan: Halting site frozen over, Met Office perplexed.

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    Mute Sorcha Ní Shúilleabháin
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    May 6th 2020, 8:30 PM

    Since when was liquid nitrogen a commonly used fertiliser. Surely they’re for storing straws for AI?

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    Mute flamrock
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    May 6th 2020, 3:53 PM

    There looking for an over zelous AI man, with loads of cows.

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    Mute Fiach Moriarty
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    May 6th 2020, 2:42 PM

    Smoke and mirrors stuff

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