This the same organisation who…when the previous pope went to London, gave confession with to four multi millionaires. Granting all four absolution for their sins and a gateway to heaven, for a small donation of £200,000 each.

I guess all that money went to the poor people right?

Well I suppose he us human too and just prefers the look if this car maybe? It is a really cool car and when he is trading up I would happily take it off his hands .

the old engine couldnt burn alter wine..new one does 40 to the bottle! drops to 20 for buckfast..

I wonder how many people these multi millionaires employed?

What tripe people like you come out with, where is the proof for this?

An old car, but a cool car…! I’d drive it!

You sound very bitter Angela…..I’ve no time for any religion but in the case of this new fella in the Vatican is making waves….He has no time for all the opulent trappings of the papacy. I do believe there are genuinely good people who are religious and I think he is one of them, give credit where credit is due……all the boys on red frocks will be wondering what the did when they elected him……if he isn’t bumped off I think he will continue to ruffle feathers and make significant changes…..tiny steps etc etc…

Exactly, Jean. A 2,000 year-old, predominately Third World Church is a slow-moving creature. I would like to see more substance from Francis in addition to the welcome style but his pontificate is only six months old so let’s wait a little longer and see.

Jean, has he ordered the Sisters of Mercy et al to compensate the Magdalene laundry survivors yet?

No.

And I’m sure he never will.

Hypocrisy is alive and well in the state of the Vatican.

The Pope doesn’t control the private finances of individual religious orders.

Granted, @Fergal, you’re right. But a word from him would hold significant sway.

The church might have a hippy for pope, but at grass roots level f*** all has changed in the church.

Are u involved as grassroots @jane? Or are you just typical bashing cause you can?

Agreed Jean, this Pope might rescue the church

Jane usually the argument is that the grassroots have changed and it’s the hierarchy that hasn’t.
It can’t be both ways.

@rehabmeerkat I don’t have to be involved to have an opinion and to tell it as I see it.

In fact, greater distance gives greater objectivity.

@Peace for All But in this case it’s neither.

Haters gonna (perpetually) hate – especially is it starts generating any kind of positive Kudos towards the Catholic Church. Give the lad some credit for his efforts to date, he can’t perform miracles … apparently.

Bitter, because I have an opinion? I never said there are not good religious people, huh? You are very naive if you think this is anything other than a PR stunt, along with all his other nonsense. However, if you believe that he lives a frugal life and that he genuinely wants to change the richest organisation on the planet, by all means believe.

But @Dave, isn’t performing miracles part of his job description?

Performing miracles is not in the popes job decription.

@sluazcanal, I feel sorry for you if you can’t spot when someone is joking.

Read the comment here to see why you are wrong. Of course you probably won’t.

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1gq17b/pope_francis_says_that_financial_speculation_and/

Resurrecting a 30 year old Renault 4 and maintaining it is a miracle. He’ll be beatified for this.

@Jane
If the grassroots and uninvolved like yourself are calling for change, that means the hierarchy have been slow to change

@john, I did read it. (Presuming that was directed at me in the first place? You didn’t say.)

I’ll raise you the Sisters of Mercy: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/sisters-for-mercy-made-165m-from-sales-159863.html

Was directed towards Angela.

Can’t do this debate. No minds are going to be changed today anyway. Good luck.

Look Angela, all I’m saying is that (in my humble opinion) I think he is ‘trying to lead by example’…..this is a first from the Vatican, among the faithful this is unheard of behaviour. I’m an aethist and despise what the RCC and some other Christian churches are responsible for, but, they are not all nocturnal peadofiles lurking behind pillers in the church waiting for some innocent 8 year old to pass to lure in with a lollipops. Many men and women dedicate their lives to helping others. The fact that they do this in the name of some god is a matter for themselves but doesn’t diminish the fact that they do many selfless act for the benefit of others. That’s all, what you take out of it is up to you…..but you do come across as a very bitter and/or angry woman…..you may have your reasons but that doesn’t change the facts……. As I see them.

Yep me dad had one with the p&t/telecom. Gearstick came out at a right angle from the middle of the dash

Renault 4 van white. That’s how my precious mother used to drive us around. And as mentioned that gears tick in the dash! Makes sense too.

Escort mk II