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    Mute Kevin Higgins
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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:00 PM

    This is sick. America should never have entered Middle East , they have done nothing to provoke the Americans . Harshly policing the world again

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:06 PM

    9/11. The Americans for all their faults are far better than the Taliban. Be reasonable.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:11 PM

    The Iraq war really was pointless & wrong. But the US was right to go after the Taliban, but getting out of there & leaving some level of stability will be hard.

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    Mute Seán Ó Briain
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    Nov 11th 2012, 5:01 PM

    What has 9/11 to do with it? 9/11 was committed by a bunch of Saudis.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 5:03 PM

    And er – 9/11 was an Al Qaeda operation, not the Taliban. If you’re going to argue in favour of a war, at least try to get your story straight.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 5:56 PM

    Reginald, you could argue that the Taliban may not have had their growth if America had never indulged historically in the Middle East

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    Mute Ian Martin
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    Nov 11th 2012, 6:17 PM

    America will do the right thing and extradite Robert bales, and free Bradley manning, and shut down Guantanamo concentration camp because they believe in justice.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 6:47 PM

    Sean al qaeda & the Taliban are reponsible for 911. One could not exist without other the other & there is a Saudi link as well. If anyone thinks the US is heavy handed you must consider that they reponded to an attack. Anyone that thinks the war in Iraq was unjustified go on line & ask the Kurds. In my view all wars are terrible & crimes are commited on all sides but Iraq has multiparty democracy a free press & a new constitution. Its far from perfect its fragile & yes there is violence but ask the majority of Iraqis do they want the baath party back & its an emphatic no. Also Islam needed to be shown that force will be met with force. Islam is now like christianity its badly wounded & secularists are showning their faces all over the middle east.
    Now what has happened to these people is abhorrent but its being dealth with & rightly so. We can criticise the US all we want here but they are good at justice not like in Europe. How many british soldiers are before the courts for crimes in the north.How many dutch soldiers for the crime in Srebenica. We dont have the high moral ground here.

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    Mute Kevin Niazi
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    Nov 11th 2012, 7:01 PM

    The Taliban (who the US helped when Russia was massacring the Afghan people) is an ally of Al Qaeda. The Taliban helped hide/train Al Qaeda members, not to mention that Al Qaeda members are trained in Afghanistan. The majority of Afghan people are a lot happier with the US in control vs. the Taliban. I know you can never tell this to the far-leftists and people from neighboring Islamic states without getting a backlash. Many Pakistanis will claim otherwise in regards to how the Afghan people feel, that is just part of their anti-American propaganda. Who are they to speak for Afghans? They are one of the main reasons why Afghanistan is being constantly terrorized. The Tribal areas? I am half-Pakistani and my ancestors hail from Afghanistan (Pashtuns); so I don’t need a history lesson from anyone. This was an isolated incident, to demonize the entire US military for the crime of certain individuals is wrong. The reality is the overwhelming majority of deaths is the result of the Taliban and are on purpose. http://markhumphrys.com/pakistan.html – Interesting read.

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    Mute John Coole
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    Nov 11th 2012, 9:50 PM

    It is people like you Kevin who play into the hand of the dangerous religious fascist that are the Taliban.
    By your sort of statements they believe you support their ideology, and only encourage them to go on killing .
    That was a rogue gunman , but the Taliban perform such killings as a policy, on a daily basis

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    Nov 12th 2012, 2:41 AM

    @John – Did you fully read what I wrote? Or did you just assume I was a Taliban sympathizer when I said my background was Afghan/Pakistani?

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    Nov 12th 2012, 6:23 AM

    Sorry,Kevin Naizi. (Wrong Kevin ! )
    I was replying to Kevin Ph#%<¥n Higgins who is probably one of Ramzi yousef's supporters in New Jersy.

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    Nov 12th 2012, 6:25 AM

    Wrong Kevin

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:06 PM

    I’m undecided about the death penalty but if this twisted man did commit this vile crimes against innocent people and children, then I won’t weep when they fry him.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 5:04 PM

    Then you are decided about the death penalty it would seem

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    Mute Peter 'Nocky' Naughnane
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    Nov 12th 2012, 7:19 AM

    No Des. For vicious killers and child murderers, if sentenced to death, I won’t feel sorrow for them. This doesn’t mean I agree with it, just that these people aren’t worth of any of my sympathetic feelings.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:24 PM

    This is gross…the Americans think they can police the world, leave these people alone and they will leave ‘us’ alone. As for 9/11 I don’t wish to sound like Jim Corr but I don’t believe all that comes out of the US, their record is shite in that score!

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:32 PM

    Well said Joan . There’s a revolution coming and it’s the world v whoever runs America

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    Nov 11th 2012, 8:15 PM

    And for the record one of the victims, Ruth Clifford was in my class at school for short time, so would be easy to blame ‘others’ but no…don’t believe all the spin. RIP Ruth and your beautiful daughter Julianne.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:02 PM

    Make love not war!

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:11 PM

    The American government blew up the twin towers not the Taliban , the Taliban is a large group of activists who are defending their land against American rule , I say leave them be and they won’t bother us . It’s pathetic to believe the Americans all the Infoseek been released through wiki leaks/whistle lowers etc.. It’s all for power and oil. 2 things we don’t need

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:14 PM

    Did they? I didn’t know it was the government. Is that a fact?

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:15 PM

    ok! You are one of those. No point showing you facts then if you are just going to believe nutjob conspiracy theories. & oh yeah The Taliban really are a nice bunch of lads, especially if you like shooting children in the face for evil actions like going to school. Enjoy your tin-foil hat.

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    Mute Declan Noonan
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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:16 PM

    Kevin, as I said in a post elsewhere- Get Real!! Why don’t you take a plane to NYC and head over to ground zero and state your case there. Btw Afganistan is not in the middle east.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:24 PM

    The majority of families who lost people in 9/11 made these “conspiracy theories” . Only thing is that they’ve proved them. If you look and analyse the evidence yourself youl realise that no terrorists did it. I’m guessing use all got your info from sky news , fox or rte or something yeah?

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:28 PM

    Here is a list of independant documentaries about 9/11. now 100% of people who watch all these know for fact that theres no terrorists involved, so this is for you declan, educate yourself bit more than your 6.01 news and maybe youl wake up for once

    7 Days in September (2002)
    9/11 (2002)
    911 and the British Broadcasting Conspiracy (2007)
    9/11 Chronicles Part 1: Truth Rising, The (2008)
    9/11: A Closer Look
    9/11: The Birth of Treason
    9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out (2011)
    911 Eyewitness
    9/11: The Great Illusion
    911: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold
    9/11: Ground Zero’s Responders (2011)
    9/11 False Flag (2008)
    9/11 In Plane Site – The Director’s Cut
    9/11 Mysteries (2006)
    9-11 New World Rising (2007)
    9/11 Octopus
    9/11: Press for Truth (2006)
    9/11 Ripple Effect (2007)
    911: The Road to Tyranny (2002)
    911: The Road to Tyranny Extras
    Activist (2009)
    Aftermath: Unanswered Questions from 911
    Architects & Engineers – Solving the Mystery of WTC 7
    Between the Lies (2009)
    Building the World Trade Center (1983)
    Bush’s Response to 9/11
    Confronting the Evidence
    Conspiracy Theories
    Core of Corruption (2009)
    Destruction of Building 7, The
    Dust to Dust: The Health Effects of 9/11 (2006)
    Elephant in the Room, The (2008)
    Empire Of Oil: The Hidden History Of 9/11
    Everybody’s Gotta Learn Sometime
    Explosive Reality, The
    Fabled Enemies (2008)
    Face the Facts
    “Flight 77″ The White Plane
    Google Spider Goats (2007)
    Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw, the (2005)
    Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & the Selling of American Empire (2004)
    Improbable Collapse (2006)
    In Their Own Words: Untold Stories Of The 9/11 Families (2007)
    Justice for 9-11!
    Late For Work 9.11.01
    Lloyde England & His Taxi Cab – The Eye Of The Storm (2008)
    Loose Change 2nd Edition (Recut)
    Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup (2009)
    Loose Change: Final Cut (2007)
    Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State (2005)
    New American Century, The
    Painful Deceptions
    Pandora’s Black Box – Flight of American 77
    Pandora’s Black Box – Flight of United 93
    PentaCon, The
    Protocols of Zion (2005)
    Secret Evil of 9/11, The
    Secret History of 9/11, The (2006)
    SEPTEMBER 11: Evidence to the Contrary (Redux 2006)
    September 11 Revisited v2
    Summary of 9-11, A
    Take Back 911
    Terrorstorm – Special Edition (2007)
    Three Nights At Ground Zero
    Truth and Lies of 9-11, The
    Ultimate Con, The (2007)
    Unofficial Story, The (2009)
    What’s The Truth?: How Indeed Did The Twin Towers Collapse?
    Who Killed John O’Neill?
    WTC – The First 24 Hours (2002)
    Zeitgeist: The Movie (2007)
    ZERO: An Investigation into 9/11 (2008)

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:32 PM

    Shur it was the Arabs. They found their passports on the ground at ground zero after the planes smashed into the buildings and they collapsed. Some feat in itself. Anyone see the documentary ” loose change”? A lot of hot air but a lot of tangible evidence also

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    Nov 11th 2012, 6:42 PM

    I suggest the Penn & Teller Bullsh*t episode on 9/11 conspiracy theories. Where do you nuts stand on the moon landings?

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    Nov 12th 2012, 12:20 AM

    Kevin your an idiot and spouting off some bullshit some lunatic down the pub told you and Reginald that was a brilliant comment…. Tin foil hat is right Lols.

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    Nov 12th 2012, 5:17 AM

    I hear the theme tune from the twilight zone. Well they did a good job at demolition. Maybe we can get them in to do Liberty Hall.

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    Mute Anne De Croix
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    Nov 12th 2012, 7:26 AM

    What I am finding quite interesting is the demographic shift in conspiracy theorists- the right-wing conservatives called them ‘the loony left’ and the ‘tin hat brigade’ but has anyone noticed how the right-wing in the States are now barking ‘conspiracy’ after Obama won the election? I guess no-one’s really catching the irony in that! : )

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    Nov 11th 2012, 6:37 PM

    I found it very strange that when the Navy Seals faced Osama Bin laden they shot him dead… Surely you would want to hold and question him, to get as much information out of him as one possibly could… To me it looked as if the USA were trying to hide something by shooting him on sight.. We only have their (USA) word to take for it….

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    Nov 12th 2012, 7:31 PM

    Unless Lucille, he is not dead but in custody somewhere and the whole thing was a huge play orchestrated by the people ‘in charge’. The reason given why there was no body left is just…. interesting.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 7:25 PM

    This is the clearcut result of putting a gun in the had of an immature mind. These kids average the age of 19, most have never traveled outside their own state and I’ve heard that only 20% of new recruits even own a passport. These kids grow up in a world where the media and church teach them that a?rabs are evil and want to kill you and your family.

    These kids spend their spare time before enlisting playing video games where (currently) all the bad guys are a-rabs..

    I’m not condoning his behaviour in any way and I actually agree with the death sentence in certain cases…. But this kid was conditioned to believe that all a-rabs are evil… Combine this with a poor education, high stress and possibly seeing compatriots kill and be killed…..

    Can we be surprised?

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    Nov 11th 2012, 9:38 PM

    Bales is 39 , not a kid !

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:52 PM

    Dont you just love when you question anything and dont get in line with the sheep you’re told to put on your tinfoil hat hahaha :)
    Well I will have a dress, Shoes and a handbag in tinfoil please! Easy on the heels

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:38 PM

    Johnny what about the 5 white makes arrested in suspicion of terrorism who wer then released by FBI into protective hiding? What about the fact that bin laden worked for the CIA? The quote from sec for def saying we need more oil , we need to invade Middle East

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    Nov 11th 2012, 4:52 PM

    And the memo telling politicians not to fly on that date

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    Nov 11th 2012, 5:15 PM

    The problem is that the cowards that perpetrated 9/11 were and are spread throughout the Middle East. Iraq was foolish to begin with, primarily because we had no justification for going there except for GW Bush to finish what his father started.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 5:50 PM

    Sadly that’s what alcoholics do. Always try for that affirmation from a parent

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    Nov 11th 2012, 8:32 PM

    This is a very polarizing subject I know but the problem is the ones who bash people for questioning the official story generally haven’t even watched any of the docs or read any of the books available . It’s just the usual , moon landing , Elvis is alive bs comments . And when you suggest a book or doc to watch the reply is I don’t need to watch or read that crap I know what happened . Well I’m sorry but if people can’t even open there minds enough to watch a 2 hr doc , well they can’t really argue about anything . Explosive evidence really is worth watching , anyone who has seen it certainly has questions after watching it .

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    Nov 11th 2012, 6:55 PM

    That is pure horrible that soldier should be hung In The town he shot those poor People all these excuses stress head injury bollox The lot of it get out and let them live their lives

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    Nov 11th 2012, 6:59 PM

    The problem is the Taliban won’t allow them live their lives

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    Nov 11th 2012, 8:02 PM

    The whole tin foil hat thing is wearing thin . Watch explosive evidence , the evidence for thermate is overwhelming . The physical evidence cannot be argued with . Just watch it it’s on top documentaries.com .

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    Nov 11th 2012, 8:24 PM

    I see the flat Earth Society are having a reunion on this page. :-))

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    Nov 11th 2012, 8:36 PM

    It’s scary how many seem to believe this conspiracy crap.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 9:12 PM

    You mean Robert bales is not guilty!! It’s all a conspiracy.

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    Nov 11th 2012, 10:22 PM

    Shape charges were used no holes required and wireless detonators have been available since the late 90s . The buildings security system was down for the two weeks prior to the attack and there was a crew of men working there in the early hrs of the morning for those two weeks .

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    Nov 11th 2012, 11:28 PM

    Do you deny too-, that Ramzi Yousef blew out the inside of six floors in 1993 with a truck bomb under the towers and killed 6 people in the earlier attempt and during his trial claimed they would do it properly next time?
    BTW do you live in New Jersey?

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    Nov 12th 2012, 5:35 AM

    @strongbow don’t try To deligitamize the 911 truthers with that bs statement are you suggesting that the literally 1000s of engineers architects pilots physicists believe Elvis is still alive . Absolute crap and you know it

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    Nov 12th 2012, 1:44 AM

    I live in Australia and what is childish about doing research on what has been used to launch wars and strip American civil liberties . Maybe if the us would release some of the CCTV of the pentagon attack apart from the one they have released which doesn’t even show a plane or if bush and Cheney had given their evidence under oath or if the janitor of the twin towers had been interviewed by the 911 commission , well then maybe some questions will be answered . And I suppose all the architects engineers and pilots involved in the truth movement have no idea what they are talking about .

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    Nov 12th 2012, 6:38 AM

    I saw lots and lots of films that clearly show hijacked planes being deliberately flown at full speed into both Towers.
    There is never much left of an aluminium clad air plane laden with fuel when that happens. If u truly believe any other explanation then you may as well believe in fairies .

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    Nov 12th 2012, 7:20 AM

    Extraordinary then John that they found they pilots passports intact…..wouldn’t you say!

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    Nov 11th 2012, 10:15 PM

    Ramzi Yousef Nd his team blew out six floors of the twin Towers and killed 6 people in the first attempt.
    It is amazing how the “Secret agents ” managed to deliver and roll out all those cables then drill all those holes into the pillars and supporting walls Imagine all the dust and the noise, did they observe all Elf n safety rules, and why so high up ? Amazing

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    Nov 12th 2012, 5:23 AM

    Most if the people that I know that believe Loose Change also believe that Elvis is alive, Area 51, crop circles etc.

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    Nov 12th 2012, 7:30 AM

    I think most people are sceptical enough to understand that Bush needed the country behind him to go to War and that he would stop at nothing to achieve that. I guess whether you think he would be capable of enabling such devastation on his own people to that end is more the question than whether you believe in aliens and Elvis.

    Archbishop Desmond Tutu wants to see Bush and Blair prosecuted for War crimes. It would give me great pleasure to see the day …………..

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    Nov 11th 2012, 10:58 PM

    Comments here are really off topic. Read the article again,

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    Nov 11th 2012, 11:09 PM

    @maria: I don’t see anything in your comment about Robert bales, care to share?

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    Nov 12th 2012, 7:29 AM

    Absolutely amazing Anne and they also found there luggage that never made it on the planes for some reason and were full of flight manuals . Very convenient I would say .

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    Nov 12th 2012, 9:48 PM

    @andy mars . And building 7 must have fallen from the fright it got then seeing as no plane hit it

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    Nov 13th 2012, 7:46 AM

    Building 7 stored all the supply of heating oil on the lower four floors tens of Thousands of litres , when the two towers fell the subsequent damage started a raging fire when this spread to the fuel tank the firemen pulled the plug and got out , having lost to many me

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    Nov 13th 2012, 8:56 PM

    @John Byrne B7 is a Red Herring nothing to do with your original hypothesis. If you want to believe crackpots that is your own business, but remember, you are leaving yourself wide open for ridicule. You and many others fell for a hoax (Loose Change) made by a fame hungry teen and the work of a creationist Mormon scientist who believes the earth is 6000 yrs old. There is a big market in the US among the right wing Christian fundamentalists for conspiracy theories and their associated media, they sit waiting to jump on the band wagon, so be careful who you are getting into bed with. They have the money and they want to prove how evil the world is so it fits in with their Apocalyptic vision of the world. Every one of the theories these crackpots have put forward was blown wide open as has their agenda. I would agree that there are some unanswered questions about 9/11 but that does not make it a government conspiracy and cover up. It is just the same as any incident in life big or small if you look at it too closely it will pose for you more questions, than answers, don’t waste time looking for what is not there.

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    Nov 12th 2012, 7:40 AM

    The most photographed building on the planet are you telling me that is the only footage they have . What about the tapes that were taken from the service station nearby . I certainly don’t support the people who carried this out I like many others do not believe the official story as there are so many holes in it and all of the actual physical evidence doesnt support it . The evidence clearly points to explosives in particular thermate . You believe what you want that’s up to you .

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    Nov 12th 2012, 12:21 AM

    @ John Coole , what difference does it make where I live , I was referring to the 2001 bombing

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    Nov 12th 2012, 1:17 AM

    It does matter where u live specially if u live in. N.J. That is where Ramzi Yousef lived as he n cohorts launched their evil plot to bomb the towers the first time, and there is a group of his followers trolling the social media bombarding us with the sort o childish dribble that you are spouting .

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    Nov 12th 2012, 12:05 PM

    You two should get a room.
    BTW, I hope for your sake, u don’t get as fooled with your money dealings as you are with ur political views, Australia in particular is awash with con seminars about property investments, with promises of great wealth renting to the miners , people are loosing life savings investing in villages in the remote locations and paying top $ and won’t listen to the FACTS. Just like you two, hear only what u want to hear.
    There are none so blind as those who WILL not see.

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    Nov 12th 2012, 8:52 AM

    teach them to set rational emotions aside and hate a race… then punish the soldiers when they crack….? there is a good idea… *sigh*

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    Nov 12th 2012, 6:53 AM

    Maybe you should read my comment again I said the pentagon , the most photographed building on the planet and there isn’t one image of a plane . Anyway I’m done talking to you , you havent even come up with a valid argument for the official story . Explain to me why the dust from the towers is full of thermate if the buildings weren’t rigged to fall I suppose it just magically appeared . Looking at the red and green thumbs on the comments it seems a lot of people have woken up to this .

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    Nov 12th 2012, 7:28 AM

    That camera was a slow speed camera, a plane flying at 600 mph,?? the crushed and damaged engines were clearly on display afterwards , you seek out the snippets that u wish to try to fool ur friends and others foolish to believe ur lies why do u do it ? Do u support the murdering thugs that killed all those people?

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    Nov 12th 2012, 4:17 PM

    @John Byrne you live in a fantasy world, for a start the pentagon is not even on the top ten of most photographed buildings, its not even the most photographed building in the USA.
    If you did some proper research (as you failed to do on your pentagon statement) you will find that the claim for the presence of super thermite is another fallacy that has been debunked by scientists and building engineers. The theory is pure fiction, it might work in Fantasyland but not in the real world. Can an airplane crashing into one of the twin towers cause it to collapse? yes…

    just think of it like this.. the airplane has…
    kinetic energy = 1/2mv^2
    potential energy = mgh
    and chemical potential energy = mass unburned jet fuel x heat of combustion

    assume m = 255,000 lbs
    v = 450 mph
    g = 9.8 m/s^2
    h = 95 floors ≈1100 ft
    mass fuel = 10,000 gal
    heat of combustion = 43 MJ/kg
    density fuel = 0.8 g/cm^3…

    any way.. you do the math and you come up with about 6×10^9 KJ of energy being suddenly released into each building…

    1 ton of TNT = 4.2×10^6 kJ… so that

    6×10^9 kJ x (1 ton / 4.2×10^6 kJ) x (1 kt / 1 ton) ≈ 1.5 kilotons of TNT. The nuclear bomb that destroyed Hiroshima was 15 kilotons. source http://probelab.geo.umn.edu/analysis.html

    Do you understand? The energy in the airplane was about 1/10 the energy of the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima. Now what makes you think that can’t bring a building down?
    Wake up get a life and stop daydreaming up there on the grassy knoll and spend some of that loose change.

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    Nov 13th 2012, 6:40 AM

    Why should I bother attacking a man who believes in fairies when he does that all by him self with his childish dribble.
    This site has run its course anyway, go on – have the last word. Good bye.

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    Nov 13th 2012, 6:28 AM

    What is Whyalla .S.A.
    A City? no
    A camp? No
    And Pannawanicca W.A.?
    And so on….

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    Nov 12th 2012, 9:53 PM

    Where did I mention politics in any of my comments . And what are you talking about villages in Australia I must say its the first I heard of it . The miners live in camps that are built in the bush not villages . You keep attacking me on a personal level instead of addressing the facts . Pathetic .

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    Nov 13th 2012, 6:24 AM

    Every thing is politics.
    politics = policy. Policy = point of view, the way u want opinions to work, Ethos,

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