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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-GMTxycAXY
YouTube: BBC Newsnight
BBC’S FLAGSHIP CURRENT affairs programme, Newsnight, was pretty lively last night as the former Downing Street spin doctor Alastair Campbell engaged in a furious debate with the deputy editor of the British Daily Mail.
The row centred on an article published by the Daily Mail last weekend in which it said the father of Labour Party leader Ed Miliband “hated Britain” based on his writings as a Marxist academic.
The late Ralph Miliband was the subject of an article in which Mail journalist Geoffrey Levy questioned whether the late Miliband’s beliefs influenced his son but in a right of reply published yesterday Miliband said his father loved Britain.
However an editorial for the paper accompanying the article stood by its original story, saying Ralph Miliband had an “evil legacy”.
On Newsnight, Mail deputy editor Jon Steafel said that Ralph Miliband, who died nearly 20 years ago, “in our view represented someone who hated British values.”.
He said: “We felt and, we think, we produced evidence to support it… that he hated British values and that his views on many areas were antipathetic to British values.”
Campbell responded furiously saying that it was a “pathetic ramble” from Steafel in which he was “reading out the lines of his editor Paul Dacre”.
“What you’ve got to understand about the Daily Mail is that it’s the worst of British values posing as the best,” he said.
The full debate is well worth a watch above.
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I don’t understand how anyone can listen to Sheeran.
@Rebecca De Stanleigh: but you would get quite far down the road if you could. His music is symptomatic of the times. It may be unimaginative, bland but this is what it is meant to. How did we get to this stage? How were people’s expectations about songs and music in general so successfully lowered? And why?
@Rebecca De Stanleigh: And you listen to?
@Rebecca De Stanleigh: with their ears I would imagine kid
@Ananya Sharma: just because lots of people like something, doesn’t mean it’s good. Nazis were popular in Germany at one point
‘Four of the five were male’. Hmm I wonder what that statement aims to achieve
@sb: That you should listen to music based on the gender of the artist rather than your own personal taste.
@Manbackonboard: ‘women need equal rights in the music industry’!!!!!
It’s fairly mad to think that in another decade very few of these artists will be known at all. I doubt very much that many people will be listening to Billie Eilish or Post Malone in ten years time. There’ll be someone new
@John Lally: People still listen to Chris Brown and Macklemore. There thirst for dogshite music is relentless
Wherever about the rest, Ariana Grande and Billie Eilish’s must have some machine behind them, because their music is appalling.
If you are interested in the popularity of all music artists over the course of the past 50 years, watch this. It’s mesmerizing. There are also a few artists that will surprise you.
https://youtu.be/a3w8I8boc_I
@Peter Cavey: very interesting. I enjoyed that. For me that video shows 2000 – 2001 was where music fell off the cliff and lost all credibility when the likes of lilwayne, jayz and effin Britney spears joined “the hall of fame” Previous to that it was all the greats swapping in and out over 2 or 3 decades. After 2000 it became has beens. “Musicians” who came burned our ears and have ultimately and thankfully disappeared.
@Peter Cavey: Yeah interesting that. Hard to believe U2 barely got a look in, just near the bottom 1988/89
Surely Declan Nerney must have been neat the top?
Just goes to show…….You can’t trust ‘People’
Awful lot of music taste shaming going on in here by a bunch of auld lads who still think Status Quo should be number 1. Personally I feel Bohemian Rhapsody is the greatest song of all time though so…
@Whatever: regarding Bohemian Rhapsody: this video is absolutely brilliant. A chap listening for the first time. His reactions are just incredible.
https://youtu.be/npn027raQBo
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