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Women and children 14 times more likely to die during disasters

Adolescent girls in disasters are being drastically failed when they are at their most vulnerable, says CEO of Plan Ireland.

A NEW REPORT published today finds that women and children are more at danger during times of natural disasters.

The report shows that incidences of sexual assault, rates of prostitution and unwanted pregnancies significantly increase in areas hit by natural disasters.

Girls in natural disasters

The report entitled Because I am a Girl: The State of the World’s Girls: Double Jeopardy: Adolescent Girls and Disasters found that almost 9 out 10 women affected by the 2004 tsunami in India and 6 out of 10 in Sri Lanka had experienced sexual violence within two years of the disaster.

Researchers also investgated the Haitian earthquake and found that there has been an alarming rise in women and girls involved in selling sex, including adolescent girls who are exploited in the streets and establishments on the Dominican border.

Haitian pregnancy rates in refugee camps were three times higher than the average urban rate.

At risk

The research shows that during times of disasters and emergencies there is an increased likelihood that “girls will be forced into childhood marriage, domestic work or transactional sex as coping strategies”.

Girls are more likely to be pulled out of schools during emergencies and less likely to return than boys and they are given less food in disasters when it is scarce.

Plan Ireland CEO, David Dalton said that as today is International Day of the Girl, it’s appropriate to highlight that adolescent girls in disasters are being “drastically failed when they are at their most vulnerable”. He added:

Emergencies have an immediate traumatic impact but prolonged humanitarian crises also have a lasting effect for young women which shape the rest of their lives – bringing an abrupt end to their education and forcing them into poor and ill-informed decisions like early marriage, dangerous work and sex work. We must pay more attention to the risks they face.

Plan Ireland recommends that proper training and mobilisation needs to be ensured during times of an emergency stating that targeted services for adolescent girls in the core areas of education, protection and sexual and reproductive health should be provided.

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    Mute Trudy Taaffe
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    Oct 11th 2013, 3:28 PM

    9 out of 10 girls had suffered violent sexual assault after the tsunami…. Absolutely shocking statistic

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:40 PM

    This is not said:
    “9 out of 10 girls had suffered violent sexual assault after the tsunami”

    This is said:
    “9 out 10 women affected by the 2004 tsunami in India and 6 out of 10 in Sri Lanka had experienced sexual violence within two years of the disaster”

    It’s paramount that you get facts straight, not put twists on it.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 4:21 PM

    As soon as I read that headline I instantly wondered how long it would be before some nonce started shouting “misandry! Stop picking on the poor men!”

    Seems it wasn’t long.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 4:31 PM

    So Jane do you really think that that’s a balanced piece ? Also how to they collect these stats ?
    And I wonder how many young boys are abused by women in these areas ?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 4:41 PM

    Yes Karol, I do.

    Off you go and find some stats if you want to convince me otherwise.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 4:50 PM

    Couldn’t be bothered trying to convince you anything thing Jane but I will tell you one thing we have a generation of young males growing up Ireland who are disadvantaged compared to their female counterparts
    “Equality” has swung way to far in women’s favour but there will be a backlash and I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a nasty turn if events in the next 20 years or men and men are degraded by society look The group of lost young men we have in their early 20′s in Ireland no jobs no hope

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    Oct 11th 2013, 4:51 PM

    Unfortunately male bashing is in vogue at the moment Jane
    Its a shame as every objective measures shows that they are the ones most likely to be oppressed

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:08 PM

    Karol, the tide of equality hasn’t even swung level yet, never mind favouring women.

    When men are harassed in the street and at work and paid less for doing the same job, you can come back to me.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:09 PM

    9 out of 10 I do not believe, if there was a certain rise in it I’d believe it but not by that much think about it
    9….out of….10!!!
    Really? o_O

    Strange thing I always thought boys made up a healthy percentage of “children, why focus on girls if this was true?!!

    As for what Karol is saying, totally true, most young men are noticing it and their attitudes are evolving to “you think it that’s easy? Do it yourself then!!”

    I (at 23 yrs) have little to no interest in dating, relationships, marriage and sadly even starting to question children

    love women majority of my friends are women prefer talking to women but plutonic friendship is all I want

    Like a growing number of men I’ve realised that (tragically) I’m actually happier without a women in my life
    Less stress, more chilled and far FAR less debt
    Feminism has destroyed the relationship between men and women

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:10 PM

    Men are the most likely to be oppressed, jk? Not sure what planet you’re living on tbh.

    Again I say, can you produce some statistics to support that claim? Anything by the WHO, UN, Unicef, Amnesty International etc would do.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:17 PM

    Jane you seem to ignore facts.
    Men are abused on the street. See figure on violent assaults against men. Such assaults are not taken near as serious as as ones against women. Not even mentioning the fact that female violence against men is very normalised and even encouraged.
    Men are expected to do manual work that women are excepted from because they are women
    As for pay you are wrong. Single women are paid more than single men. If they make a choice to have a family, and work less, that is there and theirs alone and they cannot expect anyone to take the burden of THEIR CHOICE.

    So there you have it Jane you are factually incorrect man hater

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:21 PM

    Yes mortality rate, illness disability all objective indicators
    all show men are opressedit is not my duty to educate you on my down time

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:21 PM

    Doey, are you saying that if women renounced feminism then you’d be able to have a relationship with one?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:27 PM

    shall we define feminism – a delusional belief that all problems in the world either personal or global are the fault of men. The only solution to this is ensure that women are over represented in leadership positions and jobs with prestigious social status and ensure men are forced to work the jobs that shorten lifespan and lead to disability

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:28 PM

    Maybe he is making the point that women have a chip on their shoulder
    Must women hit their thirties and the biological clock start to run out you usually see a change in their attitude as they are desperate to have kids and watch their ” feminist” views soften radically

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:33 PM

    Karol, I have to take issue with that statement. Feminism does not go out the window with the desire to start a family; on the contrary, the need for feminism (including good maternity care, maternity cover, childcare, education, etc) all come to the fore.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:38 PM

    “Feminism has destroyed the relationship between men and women”

    That’s odd, Doey, as most feminists I know are married. I’m only a couple years older than you and happily planning my wedding. But maybe the difference is that we’re with men who are happy to embrace equality – by doing half the housework, half the childcare and who are supportive of our careers. The only reason I’m able to be an equal partner in a relationship is because of feminism (I would have been considered his property 100 years ago).

    Frankly, if men who don’t want an equal partnership opt out, that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:38 PM

    Listen men and women can’t be 100% equal both have things they are better at or that only one of the sexes can do
    That’s why I think women like line yourself have a chip on their shoulder
    My mother thought me to respect women and I do but I feel feminism a
    Has lost the run of itself to the stage where it disrespects men and eve above article is a perfect example

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:41 PM

    Jk, you might want to look up a real definition of feminism. Feminism benefits all, including men.

    For example: 50 years ago an imaginary woman, let’s call her Anna, leaves school at 14, marries at 18 and starts a family. She has no access to contraception so the kids come thick and fast; for argument’s sake let’s say 20 (10 boys, 10 girls) by the time she is 50.

    Anna has a basic education so can only get lowly-paid menial work. The money she and her husband earn doesn’t go far with so many mouths. 1 in 5 of her children doesn’t make it to adulthood; that’s 2 boys, 2 girls dead in childhood. The remaining children have barely adequate nutrition, barely adequate education. They also leave school at 14 and the pattern continues.

    Compare that with Anna’s life today. She has a right to education (feminism), a right to equal pay (feminism) and a right to contraception (feminism). When her children are born they have the best chance of survival and good education themselves – the girls AND the boys. They then pass that privilege to new generations. That’s the true meaning of feminism.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:43 PM

    So by accurately reporting facts, men are disrespected?

    I think the reason you don’t like feminism, is because you, sir, are sexist. If you believe gender determines what a person can do rather than traits as individuals. Believing women are more nurturing while men are strong and silent and all that crap is still sexist.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:46 PM

    50 years ago men were forced to fight and die in pointless wars that is still happening today
    Using words to define your beliefs does not negate the fact that your your actions are better indicator of your beliefs

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:48 PM

    Karol, men and women are equal but different. We don’t have to be just as good at all the same things to be of equal value.

    An example: I read an article about a female firefighter once. She took a lot of criticism for the fact that she was physically weaker than her male counterparts. She counteracted this by quietly saying that while some of the men were very strong and able to do a lot of heavy lifting, she was small and slight and able to wriggle into tiny spaces when buildings had collapsed, to bring oxygen and medicine to people who were trapped, and had saved many lives this way.

    Equal but different.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:50 PM

    Yeah, good thing there’s so many men arguing for the rights of women to be in combat (oh, no, that’s feminists – male military officers are the ones arguing against it) and women in decision making positions about wars (oh, wait, not at all.)

    The only people arguing that women should be in equal combat is feminists.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:53 PM

    So you agree that society places more value on females than males??

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:54 PM

    True jk, men are forced to fight and die in pointless wars that were started by other men.

    Women are raped and murdered, displaced and terrorised by the armies full of men that are fighting the wars.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:55 PM

    Really nick because I’ve noticed a growing number of women in their late twenties thirties and forties who are so desperate for a man and a child that so many of them settle for someone they don’t really love out of fear of being alone and may I ask how happy are the husbands of your feminist friends or did you even stop to think about them?

    Jane you said maternity care, what about paternity, look at almost anyone who wasn’t raised with a father and you can see it still hurts, take a look at fatherless statistics and you see that the majority who didn’t have a dad are less off in finance, education and even mental health

    Feminism WAS important and needed but feminism isn’t looking out for my rights as a man, for children needing a father or as a husband, in fact it seems to be anything but and tbh I think women have less choices today than they did 20 years ago, take it from me who was once a very solitary teenager, humans don’t do well on their own, we need to work together but men (fathers especially) are being undermined at every turn I’ve seen this as a young man and I have to ask “what is actually in it for me?”
    And Jane, I don’t come here and say I’m a masculinist so why would I settle for woman who puts her rights before mine at every turn?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:00 PM

    Doey, please read my definition of feminism as explained to jk. You have already benefited from feminism in so many ways that you don’t even realise (that is, assuming that your mother had a reasonable education and maternity care when having you, which I’m sure she did.)

    I do agree with you about paternity care btw. I’m not anti-man – don’t know where you get that idea from. I’d love to see a situation where one full year of parental leave could be divided equally between both parents.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:00 PM

    Jane are saying that we should have a separatist gender opinion of society . That all females in a society have less influence than males.
    God Jane you are lucky that hatred against men is in vogue
    200 years ago you would have been blasting the black no doubt

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:03 PM

    As I said, they’re quite happily married. As feminists, the husbands stay home with the sick child half the time and get up in the night – but it gives them a chance to bond with the baby. Feminism is the movement saying “actually, men should stay home for half of the leave.”

    And your point about fatherless men is interesting, but I’m a bit curious as to why you think women have the ability to solve it. If fathers chose to opt out (by not staying home half the time, by not being willing to take a more flexible job so they can do half of the pick ups) – then frankly, I’m not sure what women can do to force them to be involved in their children’s lives.

    And what’s “in it for you” is a relationship on equal footing, which wasn’t possible even in my grandparent’s generation. But frankly, if I was reading these comments, I’d take relationship advice from those of us who are happy relationships, not the person who has opted out!

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:07 PM

    Karol — You are a moral disgrace.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:08 PM

    Jk, kindly show me where I have

    1) expressed any degree of hatred towards men

    or

    2) said that we should have a “separatist gender opinion of society” (what does that even mean, btw?)

    or

    3) said that women have less influence than men.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:15 PM

    Only thing that feminism ever achieved was to force mothers from the home and into the tax brackets because that other traditional job they done ….you know ,been a homemaker and a caregiver don’t bring any money into the coffers

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:16 PM

    Why would I waste my time its all on this page

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:21 PM

    Your subjective opinion of morality, judging by your twitter page, actually paints Karol in good light. Quite moral by a standard held by most reasonable persons.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:22 PM

    Why is that Peter ?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:26 PM

    Yes, Deasun, if only we could return to the days of the marriage bar, when women were forced to retire upon marriage (like it or not).

    Feminism is the force that argued women shouldn’t be forced to stay in the home. I must have missed the part of feminism when we said employers shouldn’t pay anyone – men or women – a living wage.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:28 PM

    Feminism is for my rights, my defence?!!!
    Education was reformed (twice in some countries) to better suit girls at the expense of boys
    Some companies don’t employ men cause we have to even out the numbers
    Will Self was accused of being a pedophile cause he was playing with his Son and people didn’t recognise him

    8/10 suicides MEN
    On average 80% of the western worlds homeless are MEN
    The majority of those who die in infancy are BOYS
    Majority of untreated mental health issues MEN
    MEN die (on average) 10-15 years younger than women
    Over 90% of workplace deaths are MEN

    An American census revealed that girls who come from fatherless homes are 711% more likely candidates for teen pregnancy
    53% of all domestic abuse victims in America 2011 were MEN
    Divorce courts in particular are massively in favour of women

    In Canada fathers can be made to pay up to five times their monthly salary in child alimony or go to prison

    Feminism is in no way shape or form for my rights as a man anywhere in western society
    Don’t believe me YouTube
    Warren Farrell, Erin Pizzey Dr.Michelle Elliot all experts all former feminists and they are but a few to name

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:38 PM

    53% of domestic violence victims weren’t men. That’s a common misreading of the report, as they counted defensive violence against perpetrators.

    “Some companies don’t employ men cause we have to even out the numbers” Which companies?

    “8/10 suicides MEN
    On average 80% of the western worlds homeless are MEN
    The majority of those who die in infancy are BOYS
    Majority of untreated mental health issues MEN
    MEN die (on average) 10-15 years younger than women
    Over 90% of workplace deaths are MEN”

    And how did feminism contribute to those? Because a lot of those are caused by a society which enforces rigorous gender roles, you know, the thing feminism is fighting against?

    Frankly, you’ve made a decent argument that more men should be more proactive in combating issues caused by masculine stereotypes, but you haven’t really made a decent argument as to feminism causing any of this – feminism is an ally.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:40 PM

    Nick

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    Oct 11th 2013, 7:16 PM

    The problem with this article is the headline.

    Does any one really believe that 93% all of the deaths in all disasters are women and children and only 6% are men?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 7:18 PM

    They don’t bother counting the men I’d say, because they are all big scary monsters and stuff.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 8:00 PM

    Anyone who enters into a political relationship deserves exactly what they get. There’s a lot to be said for ladies and gentlemen.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 8:40 PM

    “Women were forced to retire” , you obviously have never had a home to keep or a family to rear if that’s what you believe , and feminism is not the “force” that “forced” women to stay at home , economic necessity dictated that they must especially as the main bread-winners WERE “forced” abroad with tin hat and gun to defend the very Imperialists that for centuries were responsible for the subjecation of the fairer sex ……., just to end Nick , this living wage you speak of , where could I find employment that pay’s such a thing ?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 9:38 PM

    Doey, you can always get yourself a mail order bride. They seem happy to let men pay for everything while they have loads of kids and have your dinner on the table every evening.

    Seems like the 1950s is looking for you back.

    It seems like you want someone less worthy than you instead of an equal. Why are you afraid of strong independent women?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 10:10 PM

    How could you be expected to pay five times your monthly salary in child support? That one seems a bit hairy?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 10:23 PM

    Tommy it’s a strong women I would seek, not a woman who would ignore my rights cause I’m a big scary man who doesn’t need protection
    or what about the rights of a potential son

    Nor a woman who tells things to her best friends yet doesn’t say to me, how the hell can I help if she doesn’t communicate things to me out of fear of admitting fault?

    A truly strong and independent women doesn’t need feminism Tommy, no more than I would need or even want masculinism, if I’m a sexist then why is it when I or anyone else simply attempts to defend men’s rights on these threads we’re called sexists or outdated misogynists
    Why not have a simple discussion about it
    All I ask is for myself, that I and my childrens rights in a relationship/ marriage or divorce are protected so I’m not treated like crap and to simply be appreciated for my part of the work (by society aswell) #donothingdad
    I ask that maybe just a moment we could focus on our boys who are coming up short in everything

    For the record tommy if you think I’m a sexist (which is the normal attempt to silence my side of the argument) If I chose to settle down most likely I would be the homemaker cause that’s what I want to do, I want to be the one raising the kids cooking and cleaning and all that good stuff, but I would want to be appreciated for it, sadly I don’t see that happening with a lot, not all but a lot of modern women

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    Oct 11th 2013, 11:14 PM

    Hello Ann, I know, I had to re-read it the first time I read about it but as one of the men who went through it, (he’s actually a well known actor, can’t for the life of me remember his name at the moment) as he said “it (the alimony system) is inherently insane”

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    Oct 11th 2013, 11:52 PM

    Doey, if you end up with a feminist and have kids with her, then you WILL get to stay home and mind the kids and do all that you said you want to do. If you meet a woman who is not a feminist then you will have no other choice but to go to work.
    I have a son and a daughter and neither of them is coming up short in anything because they have parents who raise them both 100% equally with love and respect.
    My kids know that boys and girls are equal but different but that doesnt mean their gender determines what they can and cannot do in life.
    There are also plenty of women who are happy to go to work while their partner stays home with the kids. My partner and I made that decision together when my partners maternity leave after our second child was up. She loved her job so she went back to work. I took a 2 year career break. We decided TOGETHER.
    If you meet a woman who is not a feminist, then the decision will be made for you.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:20 AM

    Certainly Jane, I’d be glad to help you. The “girls are 14 times more likely to die” myth has been repeated so many times that a google search yields 2,490 hits for the entire sentence in quotes (meaning it has to appear in full). It’s origin appears to be a 2009 report from the United Nations entitled “Because I am a girl”. Here is the entire quote … which says nothing about girls (although the full report directs world governments to prioritize the protection of girls and women during natural disasters):

    “It is the relative powerlessness of women and children in many societies that makes them more vulnerable during disasters. Although there is often little distinction made between women and girls or between boys and girls, in general, studies have shown that women and children are 14 times more likely than men to die in a disaster.”

    Surprise surprise! There is no mention of “girls” in the UN quote, which bins boys and girls together into a “children” category … who unsurprisingly are more vulnerable during disasters.

    But even this quote, that combines women, boys, and girls together to arrive at a “14 times more vulnerable” figure, is a blatant fabrication. The UN report referrences this article:

    http://www.colorado.edu/hazards/o/archives/1997/may97/may97a.html#From

    In turn, this report was taken from the bimonthly “Natural Hazards Observer” published by the University of Colorado to “strengthen communication among researchers and the individuals, organizations, and agencies concerned with reducing damages caused by disasters.”

    Except that the report is completely unsourced. There is no mention anywhere where this startling data was obtained, by who, or when.

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    The original source of the “girls are 14 times more likely to die” myth: traditional spiritualism and group knowledge:

    Digging a little deeper …

    The UC quote was written by a reverend named Kristina Peterson, who works for a religous organization called Church World Services. Here is the author’s entire title:

    Reverend Kristina Peterson, Disaster Recovery Specialist, Church World Service

    Church World Services describes Reverend Kristina Peterson this way:

    “Rev. Kristina J. Peterson, known by some as the Mother Jones of Disaster, by virtue of 35 years of advocacy and activism for social and environmental justice. Her passion for sustainable equitable development is built on the belief that radical democracy is primary in addressing human and environmental rights. She is a proponent of participatory action which demands the inclusion of the disenfranchised, the involvement of communities, the use of traditional knowledge in the engagement of the imagination for creative modes of futuring a just life-world. Currently at the University of New Orleans, she is a doctoral student and a research fellow at the Center for Hazards Assessment Response and Technology (CHART). Her work is focused on participatory action as a tool for the preservation and restoration of the Louisiana wetlands and for the resilience of traditional and indigenous, at-risk coastal communities. She pastors the Bayou Blue Presbyterian Church, a Cajun congregation, enjoys photography and designs jewelry as a way to support women’s development projects. Her academic degrees include Urban Studies, Theology, and Ethics. Her extensive experience in resource development and health care have benefited her work as a Disaster Resource Specialist for Church World Service and as a member of the Presbyterian Disaster Response Team. She reviewed materials for the UN International Decade for Disaster Reduction and co-authored with Richard Krajeski, disaster publications used by the religious community. Kris has done presentations on vulnerable and at risk populations both at national and international fora. Appointed by the governor to the Maryland Foster Care Review Board, she championed the rights of children and youth in crisis. Kris lives in a warehouse with her husband, cat and brother.”

    In other words, this was written by a priestess who conflates “traditional knowledge” (ie hear say) with “factual knowledge.” Here is how wikipedia defines “traditional knowledge:”

    a cumulative body of knowledge, know-how, practices and representations maintained and developed by peoples with extended histories of interaction with the natural environment

    Conclusion: Someone told a “priestess of nature” that children + women are 14 times more likely than men die in natural disasters … and based on this the United Nations directed that in the aftermath of natural disasters, women and girls should be given more food and protection than men and boys.

    The saddest part of this entire feminist campaign of hatred is that it was actually implemented, and many men and boys lost their lives as a consequence. In the aftermath of the Haiti earthquake, the UN implemented its new mandate, and denied food aid to any person with a Y chromosome. What followed was a sad spectacle of desperate fathers dressing like women so that they could obtain food for their dying boys.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 3:36 PM

    What shocks me is how quickly some men can turn into monsters what is wrong with the world when as soon as a society collapses it seems those mens morality towards women and children does also.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:42 PM

    Indian men or all men? Careful now…

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:49 PM

    She neither said “Indian” nor “all.” Stop being so weird, PFA.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:55 PM

    Indian men or some men?
    (just going by the stats in the story) and the comment

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:58 PM

    She said some men, no mention of nationality, nor is she a crazy man hater who has said this is all men. Seriously, you’re being pretty weird right now.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 7:07 PM

    Just assuming her reaction is to the 9/10 stats from India or the 6/10 from Sri Lanka.
    Do you think this would be the same globally if the data was transposed onto all menin all cultures? Like if there was a tsunami off Howth Head would I be safe?
    Have you ever been in a natural disaster Nick, if so what was it like?
    What learnings can we get from this data? Should a woman or child in a natural disaster run from any males incase they are not trying to help them, but that 90% will probably rape them? What do you think is the underlying message?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:33 PM

    Who are all these commenters who think that men are oppressed? Man-up FFS! Nobody likes a whinge-bag, especially the chicks.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 7:00 PM

    What does Man-up mean? Should I Woman-up?
    Gender is irrelevant so we are told, different but equal remember?
    Also the word “chicks” is pure misogyny on your part, but I guess that’s your privilege.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 7:47 PM

    If you can’t handle the responsibility of being a man, then you can go back whining with the other teenage boys. “Chicks” was a sarcasm.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 10:03 PM

    Are you one of the 10% of safe men?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 11:20 PM

    “Man up”!!
    Educate yourself sir, a growing number of men (and women) evidently wish to speak up about men’s rights and you tell the men to “man up”, the exact words that have kept them down for years

    Don’t have sons.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 3:21 PM

    Hence the phrase, “women and children first.”

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    Oct 11th 2013, 4:06 PM

    Don’t believe these figures for one minute another male bashing exercise

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    Oct 11th 2013, 4:56 PM

    Strange when you see the news after a big disaster, that all of the people being pulled alive out of the rubble are being pulled out of the rubble by men….who’s going to write that story?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:02 PM

    Fair point
    Response Jane or at least one of those check your privilege remarks

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:13 PM

    Seriously, jk and nutz? The prevalence of men in the rescue services is probably an indication that

    a) men are physically stronger (never in dispute)
    or
    b) women have difficulty in getting such jobs.

    In neither instance is that an indication of the oppression of men. I would say the contrary; they are hailed as heroes.

    Really not seeing the problem here, guys.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:19 PM

    God Jane you have a very irrational mind
    If you were male you would probably be homeless
    But the female privilege saves you

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:27 PM

    Jk, in the last few minutes you have called me stupid, irrational, uneducated and a man-hater.

    Do you still expect me to believe that you are the repressed ones?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:30 PM

    Your comments have been irrational, uneducated and abusive to men who don’t accept your feminism (see definition above). Its telling that your irrational beliefs are not called out more often because if you were a man you would have been a long time ago.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:55 PM

    Jk, show me one instance where I have been “abusive to men who don’t accept my feminism”.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:01 PM

    look at your own comments on this page

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:12 PM

    Oh I have, jk. It is with pleasure that I note that I have been nothing but calm and civil :)

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:19 PM

    Self praise is no praise
    Its a sign of delusion when all objective evidence point to the contrary

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:23 PM

    jk, you have yet to produce any objective evidence of the abusive language you accuse me of.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:27 PM

    Don’t be silly, Jane, women shouldn’t argue. We should just shut up and let men (even the idiots) lecture us.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:45 PM

    @ nutzen
    They pull them out of the rubble to rape them obviously and then that’s where the statistics come from.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 8:49 PM
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    Oct 11th 2013, 9:14 PM

    Deasun, are you really producing an article from the Daily Heil to back up your argument?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 9:35 PM

    Jane I don’t know where you get the patience

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    Oct 11th 2013, 9:46 PM

    JK, as a man with 2 kids, you are an embarrassment to men. I have read Janes comments on many issues and she’s one of the most well written posters on here. She’s smart and articulate. Your problem is that you’re sick of not meeting women like her. Its you with the chip on your shoulder.
    Get back to WarCraft or whatever else you do with all that spare time you have.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 9:53 PM

    I’m rapidly running out of it, Bridget! ;)

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    Oct 11th 2013, 9:54 PM

    Thanks Tommy :)

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    Oct 12th 2013, 12:37 AM

    No Jane I’m not , you should read the article though , it’s very informative and gives an insight into the mindset of the feminazi cult , thankfully there are women like Erin Pizzey who are unafraid to buck the trend and speak out about this radical form of social engineering

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    Oct 12th 2013, 2:20 PM

    Tommy C what does having 2 kids mean?? That you are a better man than those who don’t
    That opening comment is enough to show that you are probably one of those bums who has kids and expects the state to pay for you and them.

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    Oct 12th 2013, 2:22 PM

    Jane you never even tried to counter the points made all valid by the way
    You just started to masturbate your egotistical belief that you are a better person than me and everyone else who disagrees with your thinly veiled hatred of men.

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    Oct 12th 2013, 3:32 PM

    Jk, frankly I’m not willing to feed your paranoia any further. You seem to believe that we’re all out to get you, and nothing I can say is going to change your deluded opinion.

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    Oct 12th 2013, 6:53 PM

    Never said you were out to get me
    Just that your opinions are selfish and dangerous

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    Oct 12th 2013, 7:05 PM

    Jk, why don’t you ask (male) CEO of Plan Ireland, David Dalton, the man who presented the above report, if he thinks my ideas are dangerous and selfish?

    Goodnight to you.

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    Oct 12th 2013, 7:43 PM

    Ask someone who beliefs the same irrational ideology as you?

    yeah sure that would prove anything
    Try addressing the issues I raised instead of calling me a misogynist

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    Oct 12th 2013, 9:03 PM

    JK, Im a feminist father of two. Im a working medical scientist and my wife also works full time so I expect nothing from anyone and certainly not from men like yourself or Doey there who feel everyone is out to get you 2 poor men.

    Youre pathetic. Please dont reproduce. Ireland doesnt need anymore men like either of you.

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    Oct 12th 2013, 9:05 PM

    Really judging by your prolific commenting on this website you seem to have too much time on your hands
    Too late dick head
    at least my kids are raised by an idiotic self righteous father

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    Oct 12th 2013, 9:45 PM

    Once again jk, where did I call you a misogynist? Are you having a second, imaginary conversation with someone who is not me?

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    Oct 12th 2013, 9:58 PM

    “At least my kids are raised by an idiotic self-righteous father”

    You said it jk :)

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:31 PM

    Shouldn’t it be Equalist and not Feminist? And where is International Day of the Boy?

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:40 PM

    The minute a male child in Afghanistan has to go through what Malala did, I’ll be right behind you lobbying for International Day of the Boy.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:43 PM

    They do they are forced to fight the best army in the world
    1 girl is greater than all those boys forced to die fighting the biggest and strongest army in the world in feminists eyes

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:45 PM

    1 girl? You think 1 girl is the only one denied education? You have to be a troll, no one can be this silly.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:47 PM

    So denied an education or being forced to fight against the strongest army in the world, which is worse?

    sadly you are not a troll

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:52 PM

    Being denied an education is far from the extent of discrimination.

    And you’re right. All these feminists leading countries should stop sending boys to wars (oh, wait – not so much).

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    Oct 11th 2013, 5:58 PM

    Nick stop twisting the argument you clearly said and I quote ”The minute a male child in Afghanistan has to go through what Malala did, I’ll be right behind you lobbying for International Day of the Boy.”
    to which I pointed out that male children in Afghanistan have to endure far worse horrors than females like Malala.
    Isn’t Obama a self proclaimed feminism and didn’t he want to send young (mostly poor and non white) men to fight a war in syria??

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:08 PM

    Most male boys are shot for attending school? Not so much – most young men in Afghanistan are allowed to attend school, actually.

    And if Obama was a feminist, he’d want to send women as well. As has been pointed out to you multiple times, the people trying to keep women out of combat are far from feminists.

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:18 PM

    Nick if you read what I said you wouldn’t look so foolish and dishonest
    It would also appear that hypocrisy is an attribute of feminists (note I never said women beofre you decide to go down that route)

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    Oct 11th 2013, 6:23 PM

    Yes, the mean feminists in charge of the army!

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    Oct 11th 2013, 7:28 PM

    Hillary Clinton loves a bit of war mongering so she does

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:25 AM

    Not true. The “girls are 14 times more likely to die” myth has been repeated so many times that a google search yields 2,490 hits for the entire sentence in quotes (meaning it has to appear in full). It’s origin appears to be a 2009 report from the United Nations entitled “Because I am a girl”. Here is the entire quote … which says nothing about girls (although the full report directs world governments to prioritize the protection of girls and women during natural disasters):

    “It is the relative powerlessness of women and children in many societies that makes them more vulnerable during disasters. Although there is often little distinction made between women and girls or between boys and girls, in general, studies have shown that women and children are 14 times more likely than men to die in a disaster.”

    Surprise surprise! There is no mention of “girls” in the UN quote, which bins boys and girls together into a “children” category … who unsurprisingly are more vulnerable during disasters.

    But even this quote, that combines women, boys, and girls together to arrive at a “14 times more vulnerable” figure, is a blatant fabrication. The UN report referrences this article:

    http://www.colorado.edu/hazards/o/archives/1997/may97/may97a.html#From

    In turn, this report was taken from the bimonthly “Natural Hazards Observer” published by the University of Colorado to “strengthen communication among researchers and the individuals, organizations, and agencies concerned with reducing damages caused by disasters.”

    Except that the report is completely unsourced. There is no mention anywhere where this startling data was obtained, by who, or when.

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    The original source of the “girls are 14 times more likely to die” myth: traditional spiritualism and group knowledge:

    Digging a little deeper …

    The UC quote was written by a reverend named Kristina Peterson, who works for a religous organization called Church World Services. Here is the author’s entire title:

    Reverend Kristina Peterson, Disaster Recovery Specialist, Church World Service

    Church World Services describes Reverend Kristina Peterson this way:

    “Rev. Kristina J. Peterson, known by some as the Mother Jones of Disaster, by virtue of 35 years of advocacy and activism for social and environmental justice. Her passion for sustainable equitable development is built on the belief that radical democracy is primary in addressing human and environmental rights. She is a proponent of participatory action which demands the inclusion of the disenfranchised, the involvement of communities, the use of traditional knowledge in the engagement of the imagination for creative modes of futuring a just life-world. Currently at the University of New Orleans, she is a doctoral student and a research fellow at the Center for Hazards Assessment Response and Technology (CHART). Her work is focused on participatory action as a tool for the preservation and restoration of the Louisiana wetlands and for the resilience of traditional and indigenous, at-risk coastal communities. She pastors the Bayou Blue Presbyterian Church, a Cajun congregation, enjoys photography and designs jewelry as a way to support women’s development projects. Her academic degrees include Urban Studies, Theology, and Ethics. Her extensive experience in resource development and health care have benefited her work as a Disaster Resource Specialist for Church World Service and as a member of the Presbyterian Disaster Response Team. She reviewed materials for the UN International Decade for Disaster Reduction and co-authored with Richard Krajeski, disaster publications used by the religious community. Kris has done presentations on vulnerable and at risk populations both at national and international fora. Appointed by the governor to the Maryland Foster Care Review Board, she championed the rights of children and youth in crisis. Kris lives in a warehouse with her husband, cat and brother.”

    In other words, this was written by a priestess who conflates “traditional knowledge” (ie hear say) with “factual knowledge.” Here is how wikipedia defines “traditional knowledge:”

    a cumulative body of knowledge, know-how, practices and representations maintained and developed by peoples with extended histories of interaction with the natural environment

    Conclusion: Someone told a “priestess of nature” that children + women are 14 times more likely than men die in natural disasters … and based on this the United Nations directed that in the aftermath of natural disasters, women and girls should be given more food and protection than men and boys.

    The saddest part of this entire feminist campaign of hatred is that it was actually implemented, and many men and boys lost their lives as a consequence. In the aftermath of the Haiti earthquake, the UN implemented its new mandate, and denied food aid to any person with a Y chromosome. What followed was a sad spectacle of desperate fathers dressing like women so that they could obtain food for their dying boys.

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