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SINN FÉIN’S MARY Lou McDonald is calling on the Minister for Justice and Equality to make a public statement on the delay in issuing redress payments and promised supports to the surviving women of the Magdalene Laundries.
She said that over eight months have now passed since the Taoiseach apologised to the surviving women of the Magdalene Laundries, but that not a single redress payment has been made.
Supports
“In fact none of the vital supports provided for in Mr Justice Quirke’s report have been delivered on,” she said, adding, every week she receives receives phone calls from surviving women “desperately upset and confused” by the government’s failure to provide the redress and supports promised months ago.
She stated:
This failure is set against the government’s recent denial of widespread brutality and forced detention in the Laundries in response to very serious concerns raised by the United Nations Committee Against Torture with the state.Minister Shatter is hiding behind yet another report that he says has yet to be signed off on by cabinet. For these elderly women who were so badly treated under the states watch, as recognised by the Taoiseach earlier this year, time is ticking. We know of at least two women who have since passed away and others who are living in very poor circumstances.
Earlier this month, Magdalene Survivors Together called on the Irish Government to begin the process of paying out the compensation to the Magdalene women immediately and without further delay.
Redress scheme
However, the Department of Justice told TheJournal.ie that after the government approved the compensation scheme, it tasked an interdepartmental group with considering the steps necessary to implement the other recommendations, stating that some of these other recommendations “are complicated and will require legislation”.
Steven O’ Riordan, director of Magdalene Survivors Together, said that since the State apology to the Magdalene women in February of this year, the group has seen two of its members pass away without getting their full entitlement and called it a disgrace.
O’ Riordan described it as “a disgrace” that the Government has not started the process of paying these women compensation.
McDonald was also critical of the report into the Magdelene Laundries, stating that it was not comprehensive enough.
Investigation
“Just this week the United Nations Human Rights Committee in Geneva added its name to the call for an independent investigation into the treatment of women held in the Magdalene laundries,” she said.
She added: “The Minister for Justice and Equality needs to make a public statement on the current delay in progressing the promised redress scheme, and he also needs to give a firm commitment as to when the women will start receiving their payments and supports as provided for in the Quirke recommendations.”
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Genuinely think there’s a diagnosis needed here…
Tony – what do you make of Hillary’s weird seizure in this video. What would your diagnosis be?
its a shame this election is already over, have we ever witnessed such a complete implosion by a candidate.
Tony I wouldn’t be surprised if it is some demonic entity. I can just see her go into full meltdown at the live debates i especially if Trump presses her just right. Head spinning Linda Blair like, spewing green soup everywhere… all the while screaming in a deep guttural voice- ” Your Sooooullll is Mine!!”
He has what the medical community refer to as “liar liar, pants on fire” syndrome
@jack wow , the debates are going to be hilarious, popcorn time whoever wins
Great video Tony, thanks for putting it up :)
@Dave Smith
I would say they are going to be the most hotly anticipated presidential debates since Kennedy/Nixon.
Popcorn time indeed.
Sorry chlorines I don’t use YouTube since my devastating rick rolling incident of 2007…
A total disaster for the US, and the rest of the world if any of those two crazy candidates ever have access to the nuclear button.
“ALERT – WikiLeaks Reveals Hillary Sold Weapons to ISIS, But It Gets Even WORSE
Hillary Clinton’s world just got a lot worse as several damning facts have just come to light that once again prove how unfit she is to become President, quite contrary to Obama’s saying she would be the most prepared President ever.
Emails about to be leaked by Wikileaks apparently prove that she not only sold weapons to ISIS, but that she blatantly perjured herself while testifying about Benghazi.”
See video :
http://www.angrypatriotmovement.com/hillary-sold-weapons-to-terrorists/
Angry Patriot Movement? they sound like reasonable guys.
If you present that video as evidence then you are very easily influenced. I am no fan of Clinton but the video is at best biased. At worst, just full of lies…. Alternative media is a great thing, but there is a huge amount of crop in there as well
@ Jester VonDoom: It’s one of many , many sites where this Wikileaks story has appeared yesterday. Just Google : “Wikileaks, Clinton sells arms to ISIS” I just picked the first one on the long list at random. I picked the wrong one obviously.
I think you may be right, Tony. He’s self combusting. But that was always going to happen. People like him love the thrill of the chase. It’s such a waste as Clinton is so easily beatable. Trump just won’t listen to anyone, ever. And although I’d hate more than anything to see her elected, it’s clear he won;t listen to anyone if elected either,
Better to trade money rather than nukes….
Chlorines
Your hatred for Hilary is admiral, however compared to the nut case opposing her, the decision is easy. I cannot ever recall anyone as unhinged in a political campaign as trump.
Chlorines, what you’re saying is that the emails that have not been leaked have been read by thousands of people already?
hillary is the devil. I saw a picture of her and she has horns. The camera cannot lie. trump should use this picture
Ah Chlorines, you really should address the issue in this article- your guy is a spoofer and his own people are confirming that. Please don’t reply with another link to Hillary doing bad stuff.
ive seen her out at the Hellfire Club Patrick, hooves and all!
Hahahaha, deluded dt cheerleaders, feel a bit sorry for them in fairness, the moronic rants and links to bs sources are still funny tho.
Imagine this guy could get to pick a Supreme Court Judge. Probably even 2! Two lifetime appointees!!!!!
from now on it really just is a matter of looking, pointing and laughing at trump supporters :D
Dave thats the genuine issue alright- whoever gets in will decide the ideological makeup for decades to come, it’ll be shift like the warren court, or roberts: thats why the republicans who hate trump continue to stick with him, his term would be short, but the justices thereafter
I still can’t believe they won’t just put Merrick Garland in. Republicans have already said they like him. I predict movement on that if the polls keep going the way they’re going
if Hilary gets in he’ll be the fastest approved justice out of fear who else might be waiting behind him
The video has been heavily edited. The first few second show her nodding but this is then seamlessly played in reverse to double the apparent length of time she is nodding. Obviously this makes her actions very unnatural looking. Not a Clinton supporter, just pointing out the weakness of the video evidence.
Merrick Garland will be withdrawn in late October. He’s the offer now, they don’t get one in the Lame Duck session, either they win and get their own guy, or they lose and have to confirm Hillary’s nominee, assuming they still have that authority in the Senate.
John, I think they’ll come back to it late next month if the polls look as they do now but they’ll be playing from a weak position.
If those two are the best candidates America has to put forward for the job of president it really doesn’t say much for the rest of the pool.
@Dave: You may well be right. The Democrats will be happy with Merrick, he is a normal well adjusted person who can be relied upon to think about an issue rather than refer to a holy book of some sort. At the same time he is a reasonably solid conservative on several issues important to the Republicans. That said, it would be a long walk back for Mitch McConnell and the Party as a whole, if they do it you can safely assume they have entirely given up the election, I agree completely with you there.
@Jedi: Hillary is a poor candidate, too much politician for most tastes but Trump is a potential lunatic. That’s not even the same sport, much less the same league man.
I think the Democrats may tell them where to go if they try to put Garland back on the table though, which would be hilarious. If Trump keeps going at this rate Republicans will have to withdraw their endorsements to even stand a chance of getting the Senate.
Donald duck
I also think Garland was a very fair choice by the Democrats. Obe that should not have been scoffed at and definitely one that should not have been treated so terribly. There are three justices in their 80′s now as far as I know. The next president could decide the next 50 years
I would not buy a second hand car from Trump.
I would not buy a residence from one of his companies.
I would not trust Trump in business.
I would not trust Trump with my daughter.
I would not trust Trump with my pension.
I would not trust Trump to tell the truth or even to recognise the difference between truth and falsity.
Thank goodness that Trump is a patsy candidate, a sacrificial goat. In what round will he finally throw the fight? Has he already thrown the fight?
Chlorines I think you might need to talk to someone. That’s a warped mind you have.
Trump is incoherent and his unscripted speeches sound like an eight year old thinking aloud
That’s why huge swathes of uneducated Americans love him
Is it me or is his hair coming loose ………?
probably make a bid for freedom?
“I know words big time, I’m gonna win a lot!
that’s awkward.
I hope he’s better at getting his facts right if he ever ends up with his hands on the nuclear button. Dangerous fool.
If true
They better give him a practice button for the first few months. He’ll be beating it like the penguin from batman.
He described, in detail, how he watched video of the money being taken off the plane. Now he says it wasn’t that at all with zero explanation why he said he saw the ‘money’ video. Wtf, like? Spends all day calling Clinton a liar (not wrong there) and he blatantly lies in public. Horrible person.
Yeah I’ve a feeling this will come up anytime he calls Hillary a liar from now on
Looks like I was right after all…..he was lying again. Demagogue
The man is a plank, but don’t forget about Clinton lying about coming under sniper fire either. I haven’t conducted any research, but I would confidently state that over 90% of people in politics are sociopathic lying weasels.
its a minimum requirement of the job. narcissism and egoism are also vital.
No surprises here, Trump lies way more often http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jun/29/fact-checking-2016-clinton-trump/
This man’s finger could be on the nuclear button ..Americans are nuts
Ah well at least he didn’t arm ISIS
Dont rule out trump arming anyone. He likes deals
Trump would love to brag how he charged them over market value for the guns he would sell to ISIS – ‘cuz that’s what winners do ‘
Again. Are you a little touched?
*lads
@fanny, just out of interest the discretion that the president has for launching a nuclear strike on a whim has been removed since SIOP has been abolished at the end of the cold war. Now, they have an OPLAN, which would need the military to put into play a series of operations and checks and balances, before conditions for a nuclear strike would be initiated. There is a plan in place for north Korea being a target, but the conditions are well defined, and not just the president’s decision, even if he has the ultimate veto.
@fanny ..OK 2 points ..please listen ,for USA to launch a nuclear strike it needs clearance from the president , VP , sec of state , general of defence among other , a president cannot act on his own will , in case he is a Nero, a mentally unstable president .. so you’re safe . 2 point .. Putin doesn’t have those obstacles , he can launch at his orders , remember Hillary Clinton gave him 20% of Americans uranium in exchange for a generous donation to the Clinton foundation , in my opinion that’s treason
Jack, if Trump becomes POTUS he will be representing US business interests- and one of the US’S biggest exports is of course arms. So yes, like Clinton will do if elected, arms dealing will be a growth area for the Trump administration.
OK fair enough. .so do they have to go through all them procedures if north Korea launches a nuclear weapon on the states in the next 5 minutes. ..can’t see them having much of a chance. .someone has to make a quick decision somewhere
@fanny there is certain conditions , for eg if they are attacked , there’s a process to attack back . But trump can’t just walk in to a meeting and say , hey guys I want to drop a nuke on Canada ” , he would be removed very quickly
Is anybody surprised he is a liar?
The guy is like George w Bush with a comical twist but every bit as dangerous.
Much much more dangerous the George W.
We used to laugh at old Georgie but he has nothing on this guy
I would say over 1 million Iraqi families might beg to differ on that point.
Whatever trump is, I am not so sure he is a mass murderer. I am not saying he does not have the potential to become one, I mean Obama has unquantifiable amounts of innocent blood on his hands thanks to his drone war of terror, so maybe it’s just part of being a US president.
Trump never wanted to be President he just wanted to run the campaign through all his hotels resorts and businesses which have earned billions out of it.
Very wishful thinking sportsmad
Liberal logic ..lol , after wasting millions on a campaign and having his family and personal life tarnished by the media , all to get a boost in his hotel sector .. idiot
Jack/Joey, he gave his campaign a loan
Foot traffic to his hotels is down 17-24% according to FourSquare. Great predictor of revenue drops for Apple Stores etc. in the past. He’s certainly not doing it to boost his core business interests.
Most of his hotels just bought the name from him anyway, but that is according to him once a lawsuit comes up.
hillary is home and hosed
@Tommy , the majority of Americans support trump but the big fear is that Clinton will rig the elections or Obama will cancel it if trump look likely to win , remember Clinton is the corporate puppet who represents globalism , also she stole the nomination from Sanders , she is ruthless and evil .. you are warned
Ok. You need to stop now before you say something stupid. Oops too late
home and hosed, it was never even in doubt for hillary. trump is on a one way ticket to a looney bin :D
I expect any day now Hillary will be found on the floor in the hallway of a mental asylum bathroom balled in the fetal position rubbing her own s*it in her hair!!!
with the racial make up of the country now, its going to be difficult for an America first candidate to win , only a fk America candidate can win
Chlorine guy you put a bit too much thought into that image, are you aroused by it..?
According to a secret service agent who worked with the Clinton’s , she is close to it already .. she throws mad tantrums , Bill is a serial sex offender who hates black people ..
And he’s been discredited as a fantasist trying to sell a book. His superiors at the secret service have said he never had such close contact with the Clinton’s
Well that’s just convenient , well we will try another .. King of Saudi Arabia who has one of the worst human rights records on the planet , who also funds global terrorism is funding up to 50% of Hillary’s election campaign .. I wouldn’t say he’s doing it cos trump is a big meanie
What objective evidence is there that the majority of America support trump. I was in the states on business a few months ago and at most 1 in 3 that I talked to about politics would even consider voting for trump. More than half said they would vote Clinton and the rest undecided. Hillary is not exactly idolised in the USA. And it seems to me that if the republicans ran a decent candidate (like Paul Rand) Hillary would be toast
Ah yes, it’s like George Bush and his friendships with Saudi never existed to you. Yet almost all of the 9/11 attackers were saudi. Oh and George Bush senior did secret deals with them for the first gulf war. It might suit your rhetoric to forget that America had been doing business quite happily there for decades and ignoring wahabis.
Complete and utter horses**t. Explain why she hads to pay strangers to fill empty seats at last weeks DNC? Why she can barely fill out a classroom at her rallies while Trump is filling out huge arenas and stadia? And everyone there hates Hildabeast..chk any online discussion forum that is not infested with paid Hillary trolls and read tge cpmments. She is reviled.
@’Kevin Mcdonald’
Just because you desperately want something to be true doesn’t make it so. Discussion forums can easily become echo chambers and we can see that all the time. Compare comment sections in online forums and compare them to something objective like voting patterns and you see that is the case. Clinton is not much liked in the USA, and as I said before if the republicans had a halfway reasonable candidate they would wipe the floor with her (there are about 12 of the initial republican candidates I would have voted for in front of Hillary). But the republicans candidate is not even half reasonable. He is a halfwit. And so Hillary is gifted the presidency she should not have gotten close to. Point to any measurable, objective indication that trump is more popular. Every opinion pole has Hillary in front. …. You support your argument with hearsay and rumours Forgive errors, writing this on a smartphone and it’s finikity at best
I miss Kasich
Every rigged opinion poll you mean ..tweaked in favour of Hildabeast.
You still haven’t explained why she had to pay strangers to fill hers seats at her DNC last week while thousands are queuing outside stadiums to get into a Trump rally.
Here is a clue: She is being trounced, obliterated, annihilated, by Trump.
He will win the election by a landslide so practice saying President Trump now and stop whining like the little baby troll that you are.
Obama will either do one of 2 things .. call off the elections and do a 3rd term or Hillary will be pulled from the race and replaced with a more suitable candidate that will beat trump . I think dems messed up by not putting Sanders thru instead
OK Shane , no explanation why Saudi Arabia who execute gay people is funding Hillary , another one closer to home , Hillary took charge of Haiti recovery after earthquake , a contract was put out to install a phone service to transfer money between Haiti citizens , various companies made an application including our own Denis o brein , o brein paid bill Clinton to give 2 speeches at 500K a speech , 3 weeks later o brein got the contract . Is this just a coincidence ?
Jack/Joey, you’re insane. The president has no such power. A Republican yesterday accidentally let slip that next week Paul Ryan might be running for president
Ha ha ha, you are the picture perfect Trump supporter; angry, anti-establishment and very willing to ignore facts
Lets take your “points” (if they can be called that) one by one
Have you evidence that any of the major election polls are rigged? or do you just state that because you don’t like what they tell you. Is it a coincidence that they change with every political development and every time Trump embarrasses himself.
Can you point to any real evidence of the DP paying people to attend the DNC. The craigslist add could be posted by anyone??
There is NO evidence other than whats in your own head (another Trump trait) that Hillary is being “trounced, obliterated, annihilated” in any race
As for Trump winning by a landslide, let me say this Ha ha ha ha ha ha (and so forth) – Never going to happen, Trump could only win by a sliver – but is more likely to loose heavily
No on to the personal insults – If you get upset somebody contradicting your posts using evidence and reason – then maybe you shouldn’t post here You throw your toys out of the pram and then call other people a baby. Give over and grow up
Is there any, and I mean any, remotely credible evidence that Obama will cancel the elections or run for a 3rd term.
And no, the inane rantings of Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh do not count as evidence
Of course when dt loses it will have been a fix…preparing to lose, excuses made already.
I thought Obama didn’t negotiations with terrorists , remember he refused to pay Isis a ransom for the Americans that were beheaded . He’s a terrible leader
Remind me, how many of the terrorism acts of the last few years came from Iran
He’s given 400 million dollars of taxpayer money to one of the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism.
Again, remind me of the iranian terrorists?
Holding hostages for ransom is an act of terrorism … idiot
Saudi Arabia?
Hostages in American language, political prisoners to the iranians dope. Did it ever occur to you that Americans entering iran are highly unlikely to be tourists
people criticise the media and then swallow porkies like: “oh yeh the americans just happened to wander into iranian territory. totes accident. sozzles.”
Iran should of gave them a trial , there’s no excuse for accepting ransoms especially from Obama ” I don’t negotiate ” , he has to be the worst president in US history , admit that much at least
Agree jester , like the porkie ” oh we are just arming moderate Muslim’s in Syria “. Roll on 1 year later , a video went viral of these same people beheading a 14 year old Palestinian child
No, you don’t get to dictate how a country operates its legal system. Many countries can hold you without trial for years including the US despite their conditional guarantees. What about gitmo? No country should be prepared to negotiate with terrorists because paying ransoms makes the problem worse.
I’m just sick of Obama’s double standards , he let Obama funded Isis chop the heads off US citizens , he refused to pay a random , now all of a sudden it’s OK . Look at Obama’s record , he’s a failure , so much for change and hope , he has America divided over color , he has Europe flooded with refugees , he helped Isis to get from a small insignificant group to a massive powerful army ,he’s taken USA from 10 trillion to over 20 trillion in debt , he has cancelled veterans healthcare while taking in more and more immigrants . The list goes on , he’s the worst president in US history
Obama has deported more immigrants than any other President & almost every other President combined .But don’t let me stop you from talking shit.
Not a bad record regards veterans
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/subjects/veterans/
Oh look, George Bush & his two fake wars never happened-nor did the financial Armageddon happened where they were losing 800,000 jobs a month ..
But…. but…. but… If Trump says it, it must be true………
Napier: The millions paid to Iran was not a ransom, it was money they were owed from a deal with the Americans prior to the revolution. Iran paid millions for a delivery of weapons but following the overthrow of the Shah the US refused to pay it. Iranians took the US to court at the Hague and knowing that they had no case, the US agreed to a settlement.
There’s a lot to abhor about Obama’s policies but with regard to Iran he’s much better than the Republicans and possibly Clinton who have been eager to overthrow the regime. The reason they have been unable to is because Iran have a strong enough military deterrent unlike Iraq but that hasn’t stopped them from the bellicose language towards Iran. Obama has been much more diplomatic and that’s to his credit.
Trump is now being sued for not paying performers at his rallies!
Ah it was a ransom , I heard this already . This is just to sugar coat it at what it really is .. a ransom
He has refused Christian refugees while taking in Muslim’s , he has given the hate group black lives matter a platform , he stuck his nose in on brexit and it backfired cos no one trusts him
Jack, i was going to say something to you then i remembered you’re a bit dumb and selective of the facts
You really don’t like him, do you, Joey?
Shane, to call them facts is a stretch. Jack/Joey is the guy that used a video from 2007 (labelled as 2003) to say Trump was always against war in Iraq
Jack. You’re a troll and not even a good one. Smh
Shane hickey you’re a perfect liberal looney left , when you lose in a debate , you resort to insults . Bye
Jack, your argument has been shot down by here already. Every riñe you just move the goalposts and still insist in nit providing sources for your lunacy
When you say bye but don’t go away it’s a lie. Typical
Jack, you have used the word “idiot” a number of times in your comments here.
Shane have you never heard of Hezbollah? Iranian backed Islamic terrorists.
Sorry now Iranian and Obama backed terrorists. Why am I not surprised that the dude with suspect ties to Islam is handing them over a warchest to use against America and her allies?
Do you mean the same Hezbollah that were created to resist the Israeli backed civil war in Lebanon? The same Hezbollah that are still fighting to regain illegally held territory in their own country? The same Hezbollah that the IDF are terrified to fight on the ground, relying solely on long range attacks in every engagement?
Na he didn’t give it to the US government or the Saudi’s
The same Hezbollah that want to drive the Jews into the sea and terrorise northern Israel
Every country has a right to defend itself
Iran would defend itself if Turkey starting firing rockets at it
Donald Duck supporters are truly a gift that keeps on giving, who knew an entire presidential campaign would be spent laughing at one candidate :D
That anyone here can take either side in this election is beyond me. Both vastly different, both the worst possible candidates.
I’ve got with the one I would hate to see as president less
@ Del Haven I agree both are terrible, we just have to work out who would do the least amount of harm. Not that it matters as it will be americans who choose which of these nightmares they unleash on the planet
Can anyone please explain why Trump supporters are so feckin think? It doesn’t matter what lies he tells, who he insults, how unqualified, at each ridiculous incident his supporters become more and more entrenched. H wasn’t lying when he said he could walk down 5th Avenue and shoot someone and his imbecile supports would find a way to make it ok.
Listening to the radio interviews of Trump supporters at the RNC was gas altogether, they ALL went something like this,
interviewer “so why do u support trump?”
dt supporter “because he’s great”
interviewer “whats great about him?”
dt supporter “he will make ‘murica great again, he will make us safe”
interviewer ” please explain when ‘murica was great, how dt will make it so again and how will he make u safe?”
dt supporter “he just will, he’s great!”
All of them the same, all of them as absurdly vague as the man himself, crazy.
$400,000,000 was given to the Iranians. Same time American hostages freed. Obama says: “nothing to see here”. Go figure who the real spoofer is.
trump
You. Go figure.
Is there any reason as to why we are receiving a Trump story every day?
So the comments keep pouring in and the site’s traffic remains fluid
Also, it’s amusing to watch the mental gymnastics of some maintaining support
its contortionism at this stage Dave
If he wasn’t rich he would be in a secure mental unit now,
Trump really is full of BS and knows nothing of the real world. To think these two candidates (himself and clinton ) are the best America has to offer its electret…… scraping the barrel in fairness.
What a prize tit!!!
Where’s Declan O’ Mara gone?????
*O’Meara
Be afraid. Be very afraid if this idiot is elected president of the most powerful country in the world.
MSM pro hillary agenda is SCARY:
$400 million ransom given to the worlds leading state sponsor of terrorism, but what gets more coverage is not the act itself, but whether Trump claims he saw a video of it were correct??
Soldier killed in Iraq, but what gets more coverage is Trump comments to his parents, not the fact that hillary supported the war that sent him to his death in the first place??
Subversion of democracy against Sanders within the DNC, but what makes the news is Trump joke about asking Russia to hack them and the faux outrage this generated??
Nuclear disarmament under Obama and hillary at its slowest pace under any regime, nato troops piling on russia borders, destabilsation of the middle east via regime change, yet the story is trump cant be trusted with the nuclear codes??
Disappearance of the middle classes in america fueled by clinton trade deals, corporations to be able to sue governments under the TTIP, debt under obama grew by more than all previous presidents, yet the media focus is on Trump university??
Personally I find this all very VERY disturbing.
So the video wasn’t of the plane carrying the cash but they still did give the money to Iran? So the important point is true but you are condemning him because he was mistaken over a video clip? How about concentrating on the face Obama is giving billions to Iran?
Stef, the money was never in dispute. Trump just invented a story to make himself seem relevant to the story. Either that or he’s suffering from senility. Unless the money was shaped like hostages.
The real story is the sophisticated politically game play in which Trump was encouraged to go up as Presidential candidate so as to defeat the more viable Republican candidates, thus clearing the way to shoe in Clinton as President.
Trump was just a patsy who is an intentionally lame duck candidate.
I’m still amused that there are actually people in the US and in Ireland who perceive Trump as a serious candidate for the US Presidency. Of course, Trump is not a serious candidate.
Tosser
Trump, the candidate who makes Clinton look good.
John McCain or even Mitt Romney would probably beat Hillary such is her level of unpopularity. Trump however has shown consistantely over the past 2 weeks that he’s no diplomatic skills whatsoever to become President. It seems like the majority of the undecided vote are coming to this conclusion themselves.
What a bleedin muppet
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