Would you say the same of Liam Lynch and the Cork brigade who disappeared scores during the tan war before going on to found Fianna Fail.

She was most certainly executed. She was spying for the British and had been warned. How come it’s execution when we refer to the killings ordered by Collins and murder in the case of the provisionals ?

@Troll – what are you talking about? When did I deny the democratic decision of Louth?

@Brendan – you said it, it was War against an aggressive and vengeful army. They were members of SF at the time btw. When it was peace time they left that violent culture behind and formed FF. SF continued that violence. So your defending that act by accusing others of doing it?

THE FORGOTTEN INNOCENT!

13-year-old Brian Stewart of Turf Lodge, West Belfast.
Died in hospital six days after he was struck by a British Army plastic bullet yards from his home. His inquest heard that the soldier did not know the rules governing the use of baton rounds.

11-year-old Stephen McConomy of Derry City.
Died three days after being hit by a plastic bullet in April 1982. Witnesses said Stephen was standing with his hands in his pockets when he was struck from a distance of 17 feet.

11-year-old Frank Rowntree of West Belfast.
Died four days after being struck by an allegedly doctored rubber bullet in April 1972 fired by a member of the British Army. His inquest heard a British Army representative admit he did not know at what distance it was permissible to fire a rubber bullet gun or at which part of the body it should be aimed.

10-year-old Stephan Geddis of West Belfast.
Died in August 1975, two days after being struck in the head by a rubber bullet.

Enda if you believe there was peace in the North in 1972 you have a lot to learn. But I condemn the killing of Jean McConville and disappearing her, it was brutal and wrong, I hope to never see it’s likes again. But it was no different to what Fianna Fail members did in Cork, only difference was back then it was sectarian in it’s nature rather than just dealing with informers, and was done on a larger scale.

Michael – all of the children you have listed were murdered in disgraceful circumstances. However, you are doing their memory a disservice in an attempt to excuse Gerry Adams and his alleged involvement in other murders.

Enda you talk some crap, nothing new for a FFer, what are your talking about peacetime, the North was a sectarian state from the 1920′s up to when the troubles started, with nationalists discriminated against at will. You are a member of a party that calls itself a Republican Party in the Irish sense, yet while in power in Dáil Éireann for most of this period ignored the sectarian discrimination against your so called brothers in the north. Why did FF in power ignore the treatment of fellow Irish people under the sectarian statelet for decades?

@ Enda. The documentary last night never referred to the fact that Jean McConville was a British Army informer. This is a fact because the (Provisional) IRA recovered a British Army transmitter from her flat, not once but twice! The first time, she was warned. The second time, she paid the penalty that everybody understood was due to informers who betray their own communities. This happened at a time when a section of our nation (Irish people in the Occupied Six Counties) were being brutally assaulted by the vicious colonial reaction of the British Army and the Orange State.

This was no doubt tragic for her family, but first of all, she should not have betrayed her community by spying and informing on them. Secondly the British should have been more ethical (though we all know that there is nothing ethical about the British Army) than using someone like Jean McConville and the consequences this could have for her and her family.

Her actions (and people like her) caused the deaths many people, but there is no outrage from the official media about this. So spare me the bleeding heart hypocrisy!

I agree with you Paul. Two wrongs don’t make a right. We could post up every name for the last 900 years. Fact is for the first time during that period people have pledged themselves to the democratic process and to condemn violence, and to move forward on that basis.
Now I don’t believe Brendan Hughes interview, but that doesn’t take away from the horrific nature of this killing.

So we pick the part where Brendan Hughes says that Adams ordered it but ignore the part where he says that she was previously caught with a transmitter i n her house and let go with a warning. Mick Collins didn’t give 81 year Mrs Lyndsey a chance and god only knows what she ended up in, in Cork.

in my opinion I think Cadburys shouldn’t have changed their wrappers on the Dairy Milk range

BOLLOCKS!

Do you feel the same way about the anti-treatyites that murdered and held public office or is your condemnation only for the most recent phase of conflict in Ireland. This country has a terrible legacy of murder and mayhem but all the political parties share a similar history and background regarding bloodshed and murder. The good old IRA were no choirboys and were not adverse to murder torture and mayhem,Shold Dev Aiken Breen and their ilk been shunned or stopped from public office for their actions?

@ Enda: “When it was peace time they left that violent culture behind and formed FF. SF continued that violence.”

No, SF continued the war. FF left the culture of violence to pursue a culture of corruption.

Taking away a mother of ten young children has to be lowest act committed by the provisionals. Her situation was a special case considering her circumstances. She was clearly a women who had psychological issues that instead of being considered and relocated to another part of Ireland , say to the South or West for her and her children’s safety from the predatory actions of the British army on this vulnerable woman. she was instead given the ultimate punishment, totally unnecessary. The provisionals had the wherewithal to usher her and her family out of harms way.They took the easiest path and executed her,then taking her young 11 year old boy away to be threatened and tortured for asking after her, this in itself after the fact has been considered one of the most shameful events committed. Notwithstanding the fact that her family had not been given the decency to have her body back for a proper burial exacerbated their unneccessary suffering .
The ‘nut squad’ who did this know who they are and I hope they sleep uneasy at night. A pray the ultimate court we all have to face deals a heavy hand on those perpetrators.
I lost interest in Provisional Sinn Féin’s style of Republicanism the moment I learned of what happened to Jean McConville ,
May she rest in peace.

paul you are accusing gerry adams, yet you say alleged, gerry adams is the President of Sinn Féin, a T.D., a past M.P. he has stood in countless elections and gets a huge mandate from the people of Ireland everytime. It is because of this mandate that the enemies of Ireland have attacked this man for as long as i can remember. i come from the community where he grew up in, and the british army demolished his home with armoured vehicles, not a brick was left standing, echos of the burning of cork, he was targetted by unionist paramilitaries on numerous occasions, and at one time was close to death when he was shot three times in a car, the british controlled media have used their cronies in ireland to attack him on a personal family tragedy, and now this. now what happened to the disappeared was wrong, and hopefully they will all be found and brought home for burial. but do let this become another attempt attack a man who has stood firm against enemies of ireland, enemies of reunification and enemies of peace!

Your rationale underlines the justification that the provisionals used to defend the ‘disappearing’ of the victims. If it was considered a war during the period of 1919-1921 then the social, political and economic conditions were hardly that different when the conflict re-erupted again in 1969. In fact, considering just how oppressive the north was for the Irish leaving there after partition, then the conditions may very well have been exponentially worse, albeit with the post war welfare state. If Fianna Fáil pay homage to the activities of the I.R.A in West Cork, Dublin and Tipperary then they are in no position to condemn similar activities north of the border 50 years later. That said, ‘disappearing’ people is an unjustifiable crime against humanity.

The argument that no political party can criticise SF because they all fought in the War of Independence or Easter 1916 is fundamentally flawed.
The IRA of the War of Independence was backed by the first Dáil. They were the army of the democratically elected representatives of Ireland thus bestowing a degree of democratic legitimacy on their actions.
In contrast, the IRA of Northern Ireland’s troubles had no democratic mandate from anybody. The majority of the South didn’t support them and the majority of the North didn’t either. Even the majority of the Nationalist community in the North didn’t support them. So the situation is completely different.
Anybody who makes this argument then also has to accept the legitimacy then of the current dissident Republicans to justify their actions. They use the exact same thought process that people use to equate the provisional IRA to that of the War of Independence.

Ignoreland you are entirely…WRONG…the IRA did not have the support of the first Dàil that is why we had a civil war. The 1916 rising and the men and women IRA volunteers who took part actually did not have a mandate from the majority. The IRA of the past as is now with the PIRA were condemned too, it is all part and a price to pay for Unification of our Country. It was not a majority that rid the British occupation of the 26 Counties, you comments are a deliberate misinterpretation of the facts as are many on here who are he’ll bent on demonising Adams and the men and women who stood their ground against the British war machine in the North of our country! Who gave the British a mandate to occupy our land and carry out acts of pillage and plunder? Not in my name!

Goodness we should beatify him then. Such a selfless man. Defending the weak, sheltering the infirm. Its as well he only spent the troubles handing out band aids and paracetamol to luckless locals. Ive spoken to a lot of people who lived in belfast during the troubles and ive yet to hear anything positive about the terrorists and their ‘defence’.

Ignoreland Sinn Fein as a political party was banned from standing in elections in the North when the troubles broke out, this was lifted in 1974, so it was impossible to get a mandate when you are denied a right to be on a ballot.

Michael, you’re completely wrong. They had they support of the first Dáíl up until the Treaty was signed in 1921. That’s exactly the point I’m making. Once they rejected the vote of the First Dáíl in approving the treaty they lost their legitimacy. Your argument only corroborates my point; it doesn’t defeat it.

Bullshit Cathal & an insult to her memory & family

“This was lifted in 1974″. So in 1974 did SF get democratic support in the north for the actions of the IRA? NO, they did not. Did they at any time in the South get support from the electorate? NO they did not. I don’t know what the point of your argument is. At no point did SF or the IRA get enough popular support from the Irish people to legitimise their actions.

And to those of you now who are defending SF and the IRA during the troubles, can you explain why you now condemn the actions of dissident Republicans who use the exact same arguments you’re using to justify their continued attacks?

costello lets hope the truth comes out with what went on the night of the bank guarantee and FF and your buddies in there will be having you next Ard fheis in mounjoy

Sinn Fein are disgusting chavs. And if you vote for them are too, you are nothing more than Uneducated Dirt that are the scourge of society,
RIP to that Poor lady & her family.

Your f**cking sc*m braindead idiot

@Ignoreland.Since the 70′s the IRA called numerous ceasefires as the British held secret talks with them. The IRA went into discussions with the British because they (IRA) wanted to negotiate a peaceful way forward. It was the stupidity of the British thinking they could outsmart the nationalist freedom fighters in the IRA. Hence the British prolonged the war in the North which resulted in many unnecessary deaths. After a successful bombing campaign in England by the IRA the British conceded they could never defeat the them. Therefore they (British)were forced into accepting todays Peace Process who’s architects were the republican movement. Up to then the PIRA had other way forward but the armed struggle because Britain could not be trusted and Unionist didn’t want peace but control. To over see the Peace Process talks, Adams and McGuinness brought in John Hume a man that could be trusted by all sides. Therefore the present day dissidents are objecting to the Peace Process, a Peace Process the PIRA would have accepted back in the 70′s and fought gallantly for; that should answer your question and enlighten you a bit more. However I have no doubt that this will not be enough anti-venom to remove the poison you spit out against the nationalist communities and their chosen leaders?

Should have read…had ‘NO’ other way forward..

@ Gerry. What is bullshit? That Jean McConville was an informer or that the IRA and the communities they represent were fighting a war against British imperialist colonial aggression and their Orange surrogates?

I would be happy to leave Jean McConville to rest in peace and give her family the space and privacy to grieve in dignity. But when reactionary right-wing collaborationist anti-republicanslike you keep digging her up to use her as a political football, well then certain hard home truths need to be spoken.

She was an informer and this is not only attested by the IRA in Belfast, but also by local residents who observed her activities and heard her transmissions (through the thin walls of the flats) to her British Army handlers. She was given at least one stern warning to desist from collaborating with enemy (which is what the British Army are to the Irish people) and she didn’t heed it! For that reason, she was shot as an informer. The French Resistance and other anti-fascist and anti-colonial resisters in history did exactly the same thing (except they did not give any warnings!).

Personally, I think it was wrong for the IRA to bury her body secretly and all the pain that caused her family! But what was done was done.

Michael Allen, all horrific killings but not murdered or executed. Manslaughter would cover it. Killing wasn’t the purpose of rubber bullets. Still horrible. Additionally, there is no evidence that jean mcconville and others were informers at all. Actually it is highly likely she wasn’t.

Shame on the 100+ red thumbers here are nationalist children murdered by crown forces not as important as the murdered disappeared seems as if all the agendas here on this forum are aimed at Sinn Fein & that really they couldn’t care less about the disappeared or any other people murdered in the north just a platform to direct their SF bile.

Disappeared murders-Plastic bullet murders all the same still murders so stop using murder as a political tool.

Jean McConville was not an informer. She was murdered because she had compassion for an injured person who happened to be a British soldier.

@MonaghanRichie

Nobody is saying that the lives of innocents who were killed by security forces personnel are less important than the lives of the disappeared.

British soldiers and RUC officers were under pressure as a result of constant attack by terrorists and this caused them, in some cases, to shoot innocents who they mistook for terrorists or by accident while battling terrorists.

Liam Lynch was killed by Free State soldiers on the Knockmealdown Mountains in 1923 so he wasn’t a founder member of Fianna Fáil. Neither was he or the Cork Brigade responsible for ‘disappearing’ anyone. Get your facts right and not from the Peter Hart school of history.

Liam Lynch was killed by Free State soldiers on the Knockmealdown Mountains in 1923 so he wasn’t a founder member of Fianna Fáil. Neither was he or the Cork Brigade responsible for ‘disappearing’ anyone. Get your facts right and not from the Peter Hart school of history.

” IRA recovered a British Army transmitter from her flat, not once but twice! The first time, she was warned” If you believe this rubbish you haven’t the sense you were born with. If they discovered a transmitter there would not have been a warning. If she was an informer why was she “disappeared”? The policy was to shot informers and leave their bodies on the border roads as a warning so your transmitter BS makes no sense. And as for ethics……..you are probably too stupid to get the irony of your statement. even the great snake in the grass Adams calls this a “grave injustice”.

@ Ciaran Masterson

hear hear

if Adams had real compassion for his niece
he might not have covered it up
and she wouldn’t have been abused for as long as she was

@ Cathal Ó Murchú

”betrayed her community”

did she cover up sex abuse ?

Apparently she wasn’t ‘spying’ for the British John.

Where is the proof of this, Eddie? You seriously think a poverty stricken widowed mother in a tiny flat with ten children would have time on her hands to be gathering information and using a transmitter to pass it on? Jeez, do you have children?

You forgot Ballyseedy where the founders of FG tied republican prisoners together and blew them up.Liam lynch and the cork brigade were at war with the British and anything they did was to keep down British traitors that spying on them, a far cry from Mrs Mconville an innocent woman. So get your facts right Mr ferron Liam Lynch was a hero which can never be said about current SF shower.

@Declan : “If Gerry Adams was to finally confess to IRA membership and admit responsibility for the ‘Disappeared’, ”

If there was any actual evidence of either of your claims, Adams would be locked up. He is the most scrutinised and witchhunted man on this island and has been since the 70s.

Have you brought your evidence to the authorities whom you obviously know more than?

Declan you are totally wrong to make that statement

Gumbridge. If Adams was involved then under Hughes own code he himself is an informer.

@Sean
She had surveillance gear taken out of her house twice by the IRA. Make your own mind up on the informer question.
It was a dirty business all round though.

Peter where’s the logic in that line of thinking??????

Sf claptrap

@Declan I am N.I. born and bred (moved here in ’86) so lived thru that particular period in history. I am also a SF voter and am likely to remain one come the next poll because they are the only party at present offering any real alternative to the corrupt FF/FG/Lab crowd we seem to have been stuck with forever.

But I only became a SF voter in the last election – I did not support SF when I lived in N.I. because violence of any description and for whatever reason will never ever win my vote! So even tho I fear Gerry Adam’s position has been compromised because of last nights’ film, SF will still get my vote.

You have to remember this – WAR IS BRUTAL, ALWAYS WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE! Innocent victims beyond count all over this world because of war. But out of war comes a peace and for that peace to take hold, get a firm grip, takes committed leadership, The SF leaders and all of it’s members have expressed regret over #thedisappeared but name calling and stone throwing is not going to suddenly make it something that didn’t happen.

It’s way beyond time that this sorry nation wised up. We live in the present and we need to deal with problems that are taking place in the present. Doing that simple thing alone would go a long way towards healing the rifts of our past history – a history which we should by no means forget but wise up and learn from it.

Surveillance gear? I thought it was a transmitter?

What kind of surveillance would a widowed mother of ten kids have time to do? It’s so stupid, it beggars belief that people would even consider it realistic.

Chris, what has war got to do with this discussion? We’re talking about terrorists and terrorist supporters, not a war.

The SF leaders say a lot of things but their actions show they don’t mean a word. How can anyone who is genuine about regretting the past turn up at the commemoration for terrorists who blew themselves up?

You should be ashamed of yourself for having got through those terrible times in the North and turning around and supporting people who still see nothing wrong with the killing of all those people.

that doesn’t even deserve a reply if you’re too thick to see the point I’m making – Grainne

In other words, Chris, you can’t answer the questions I asked you…

Patrick youv some neck commenting on anything while displaying the butchers apron dripping with Irish blood . Shame you have such a nice Irish name and all

Who done what can come later what matters now is the grieving family’s need is their loved ones back so they can have proper funeral and place flowers on their grave

@ Williaml Scanlan Melissa Oneill

gerry adams has some neck showing his face after he covered up sex abuse

Michael, he has seen that even the fact that he covered up child abuse hasn’t dented his support by his adoring followers. He thinks he’s untouchable. But one day he’ll slip up…let the mask fall, or say the wrong thing..

Did you not hear the part about “disappearing” people being an old IRA tactic from the war of independence. Are FG and FF not the political parties from that period???

Spot on Michael. People in the Republic need to understand that the PIRA had huge nationalist support during the troubles and were considered heroes. Some dreadful mistakes were made. As there are in all wars. If you class Gerry Adams as a terrorist, then please tell me what you think Tony Blair and George W Bush are? And if people expect the truth about the disappeared, then surely the same applies to the families of the Dublin/Monaghan bombings, Miami Showband massacre etc. truth and reconciliation forum is the only way forward.

Indeed, in a recent documentary it was claimed the Cork brigade disappeared 80 people during the tan war in the twenties. Many involved became members of FG and FF.

Agree with your part about IRA volunteers fighting British terrorists but Adams is a sellout paedo protector and an out and out liar . He is filth and should be shunned by republicans him and his puppet mcguinness

The IRA’s achievements in terrorism are in danger of being surpassed by their supporter’s achievements in revisionism. Fine work my Lord, and Michael. Nice to know that 650 slaughtered Civilians, countless police officers from both sides of the border and hundreds of unsuspecting young soldiers the vast majority of whom were assassinated in non combative circumstances were just mistakes.

@Brendan, Dave will not be happy with your comment that the Cork Brigade were responsible for 80 disappeared. That was just the Cork brigade. Dave had two ancestors in the IRA and Dave as others on here commenting would like to detach the activities of our brave IRA ancestors from those continued in the IRA who fought the same enemy throughout our history. I can’t get my head around that mindset!

Michael Allen, the problem is not the IRA V the British Army etc, while many may not agree with the IRA campaign, many can understand it and people like Martin mcguinness have said they were in the IRA and one can respect that, even if one disagrees with it. It is when you listen to Adams, you can almost see his brain evading the questions and his waffling makes me cringe, he has learned the art of the politician well.

They also inspired disgust and revulsion in many from the nationalist community. And terrorised their own to a huge extent. These were no heros. Thugs murderers and psychopaths who targeted young unformed men and robbed them of their humanity and turned them into monsters.

@TaxiBill you like many on here are Cherry picking to feed your own venomous, violent and delusional taught’s!

Don’t agree that others are trying to harm Adams in an attempt to halt the growth of SF.
Adams is toxic and the best possible vote-gathering exercise for SF in 2013 Ireland would be to ditch Adams, McGuinness, Ferris and all others with a shady past in favour of the younger generation of SF politician without the burden of such a murky history.

Fine Gael has ballyseedy and the other atrocities of march 1923 on it’s record, fianna fail have every irregular action during the civil war on its record, labour can be traced back to James Connolly and his terrorist deeds, occupying the centre of Dublin with force of arms and all three collectively share the blame for many of the deaths during the troubles by virtue of their complicity with British forces at a time when our constitution didn’t recognise the illegal statelet of Northern Ireland and in fact laid territorial claim to the statelet. One could argue that the provisional IRA were the only force acting constitutionally.

What’s with all the “FG did this in 1923, FF did this in 1921 yadda yadda yadda”, the difference between these atrocities and the ones committed by the IRA is that the people who committed the IRA atrocities are still alive and trying to appear as if they were Mary Poppins at the time instead of a jihadist hellbent on terrorism.

@Mattoid I take it from your comment you will not be voting Sinn Fein, then do not dictate to those of us that will be and that support is growing.
Demonising Adams and those you mention on your…HIT LIST…has not worked in the past thirty years and it will not work now.

“They also inspired disgust and revulsion in many from the nationalist community. And terrorised their own to a huge extent. These were no heros. Thugs murderers and psychopaths who targeted young unformed men and robbed them of their humanity and turned them into monsters.”

Yet successive FF/FG/Lab governments continued to waste billions of taxpayers’ money in collaborating with these British Terrorists who also openly perpetrated mass murder of Irish ppl in Ballymurphy, Derry, Springhill, Dublin, Monaghan, Dundalk, etc.

Did I hit a nerve Michael? You’re right, I’m not speaking for myself, but there are hundreds of thousands of disillusioned voters out there looking for a viable alternative to the current disastrous mainstream parties and SF could clean up if it ditched its toxic past. Didn’t you like me pointing this out?

Your use of the term ‘hit list’ was pretty ironic under the circumstances.

@Lord Loverocket

The idea that Sinn Fein had massive support among the nationalist community during the Troubles is a bit of a myth.

Take as an example the 1987 election results

http://electionsireland.org/results/general/ni/1987.cfm

Only in two of the seventeen constituencies did they come out as top party among those representing the nationalist community – Belfast West and Fermanagh/South Tyrone. They even managed to finish lower than The Workers Party in a few.

@ eel knack. Nobody is suggesting that the deaths of enemy combatants was accidental.

And, Mattoid, for the younger generation to leave the past behind, and not turn up to commemorations of dead murderers…

@ Michael Allen

what are you refer to when you protect peados huh ?

I am happy to assign any politician who has not at any stage either been a member of/connected to/in command of a private murderous army as a “normal politician”.

what about thievery and deception and lies (see FF, FG, et al)

Pretty shocking all right Barbara, but if we have to draw a line, I am happy to use murder.

Eel, FF and FG are the offspring in one way or another of the old IRA, the Labour Party came from Larkin/Connolly et al (ICA), so you’re not leaving a lot of room for “normal politicians” on the political spectrum.

Eel I suppose the Tanaiste of the country is not a normal politican then, along with several Labour ministers, from the DL/Workers party/Official IRA wing of the party!

People who would never voted for him would still not be voting got him, that is all.

a ”normal politician” does not stand back and let anybody (even relatives) abuse kids

@ Barbara ByarLovric

what about covering up sex abuse for 9 years ?

Only so many people that believe your contrived nonsensical mutterings Patrick. Your view of the troubles are not shared by right minded people, only right wingers like yourself. You try everything to knock Republicans but don’t knock Loyalists with the same venom. Why is that?

You’re wrong in that point Patrick. I’ve never voted for Sinn Fien but will next time around, There’s plenty more like me that will do the same because of the failings of all other Irish parties. Adams is responsible for my vote, If he wasn’t part of the party i probably wouldn’t be bothered. Also you can probably thank yourself a little too, Because of your rants on a daily basis doing your best to try make people hate something just so’s they can have the same view as yourself has swung me more towards SF. Good job on the recruiting Patrick, Well done.

Long rant Paddy.

Paddy – why is it only recently that Gerry Adams has impressed you so much, that you will now vote for SF, allegedly for the first time. Given the issues surrounding his brother and the disappeared this is very odd.

Sure was Patrick.
@Paul Issues surrounding his brother, As far as i’m aware Gerry Adams and his niece are friends? That’s enough for me on that point. Colin Parry and Gerry Adams sat together at a conference only a few weeks ago, Its that not impressive? A move in the right direction?, But just to get things straight here, My vote is more of a vote less for other parties. They have had their chance and failed

Friends! She despises him. Low information voters are the bane of democracy.

The wearing of “The Butchers Apron” is not likely to help your cause Patrick! ….just sayin’

Paddy – Gerry’s niece Aine has nothing to do with Gerry now, she has stated she feels used and betrayed by him. She stated she is disgusted by the fact he called social services about her mother and the condition of the property, but he did not speak to the authorities about the fact she was regularly raped by her father over many years. Sorry is this is inconvenient, but the truth often is.

Paddy
Yes, Colin Parry and Gerry Adams sitting together is indeed impressive, but it says more about Colin Parry than it does about GA

Dito sandra

@Paul & @Sandra: Just to cure my own curiosity can you point it out to me somewhere in an article where Aine says this? I’m asking because i would like to know. I’d imagine if she hated him so much a simple search on google would find dozens of articles but its not the case. I’m sure you’ll find something said by someone else but if you find that she said these words directly please by all means post the link.

Paddy – do you know how google works, first link provided:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/gerry-adams-niece-aine-reveals-the-beard-tried-to-get-me-to-gag-press-over-abuse-29639018.html

Same old story I never voted SF but I will next time bull shit

Paddy there are only so many half wits that think like you.
Thank God more and more people know that what ever role
Gerry had or didn’t have , it was by the unselfish work of young
Republicans who laid the groundwork for the better Island we
all enjoyed and still enjoy despite all FG attempts to destroy the
underprivileged in the 26 counties and their total lack of interest
in what happens North of the border .

Which speaks to the IQ of the average Shinner, Patrick.

Correct Colin McNamara, this is a political football that Gerry Adams answered long ago but there’s none so deaf as those who don’t want to hear.

But Hughes says many other things that people attacking Adams would never stand over as it doesn’t suit them.