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THE GOVERNMENT IS happy to continue without an Irish embassy in the Vatican for the moment according to Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs Eamon Gilmore.
An Tánaiste was facing questions from Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin during the week about whether the Government intends to re-establish a permanent representative in the Holy See.
Gilmore told the Dáil during the week that at present the secretary general of his department acting was a non-resident Ambassador to the Holy See.
The Ambassador travels to Rome regularly and I am satisfied that the current arrangement for Ireland’s representation at the Holy See is the most effective possible at the moment in light of the resource constraints faced by my department.
“The arrangement ensures that contact with the Holy See is maintained at the highest possible diplomatic level,” he added.
The Vatican Embassy was closed by the Government in November 2011 and is estimated to have saved the state €845,000.
In response to criticism of the decision, the Government has said that it would be reviewed when Ireland’s financial circumstances improve. Gilmore repeated that this week and added that there was “no plan to re-establish a resident embassy to the Holy See in the immediate term.”
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While his comments are welcome more from the Islamic community should come forward and condemned the horrendous crimes that have taken place in the name of their religion.
Sometimes the silence can be almost deafening from these communities when atrocities occur, but they can make plenty of noise when they think their rights have been infringed
I haven’t heard any condemnation from the Irish government on the church shooting in the US last week. I guess most people would think it odd that Enda Kenny would come out and condemn it just because he’s white and the shooter was white. So I’m not sure why people think every Muslim has to come out and condemn something that some nutty Muslims thousands of miles away did.
What is it you would like to see right wing ? A signed document from every Muslim in the country? Have you released a statement on Dylan Roof? Did you release one every time an Irish nationalist paramilitary killed someone?
Yeah a Polish right wing group recently called for registration of Muslims too. Can only end well
The analogy of Enda Kenny releasing a statement on white supremacists does not hold true as he is not leader of a white interest group.
It seems to me that Muslim leaders, however, do have responsibility to voice their outrage at atrocities perpetrated in the name of their religion.
Islamic leaders risk their own lives by speaking out
Who said anything about Enda Kenny? This Muslim group did release a statement and surprise surprise it’s not good enough for some people. They would like to hear it from the mouth of every Muslim apparently
Chris Jones its nothing to do with colour and all to do with a number of individuals within the Muslim community who want to bring the world back to the time of the Crusades!
Bad analogies always spoil good points on here.
Right wing is exactly right in that we don’t see enough of this. I would argue though that different media outlets have very different attitudes on it. Different news sources pretty much ignore when muslim clerics condemn – but some are more honest about it.
I have called for this kind of condemnation from Irish Muslim leaders over the last few days.
It is very welcome IMHO.
Non Islamic people risk their lives by going on holiday.
Islamic people go on holiday too, John.
Yes 1 Irish lad locked up in Egypt!! He was just going on a nice holiday to Sun himself and take in the sites!!
Taquia. Next target will be in the UK unless their Gardai are on their toes.
@ right wing totally agree , this is only from one little known leader
@E. O’Leary. I think some Austrian guy did this in the 1930s, it did not end well !
Right wing, get a grip of yourself. The Muslim community has come out and condemned. Just because your a xenophobic simpleton doesn’t mean the general Muslim community has to sign a declaration.
Since more harm has been done to this country by those of the Catholic persuasion, I think we should get our priorities straight E O’Leary. Since it was Christian harming the children of Ireland, and the worst terrorist attack in the history of the state was carried out by Christian paramilitaries, we have far more reason to fear them. Let’s register all the Christians, ban all Christian immigration, and ban the building of new churches.
Before you get all angry, read your own comment again, then read mine. It’s literally what you’re suggesting, based on the actions of members of that religion. It’s the exact same proposal as yours, but you’re too busy with your hate on for Muslims to probably even notice that.
It’s actually scary the proposals that get green thumbs on this website. It really is becoming a bastion of the extreme right
Anonymity allows stupidity and hate to fester. People who affiliate with Right Wing’s attitudes towards Muslims would be best mates with the likes of ISIS
So Irish Catholics should protest all murders carried out by Catholics globally?! Silly comment.
@ bryan kelly look what happened and maybe still happening in the catholic is a travesty and an awful part of our past , present and hopefully not the furture! however, i cant think of one incident ( present day) where they have beheaded, shot, murdered, slaughtered people at work, on holidays or going about their daily life….however, the muslim faith have!
Remember the story of St. Patrick? There were never snakes in Ireland. It’s a story of the spread of Christianity through any means necessary. Sound familiar?
Ok. What about the I.R.A? Should every Irish person have written letters condemning their atrocities? What about the Kurds,, fighting ISIS? They’re Muslim. It’d seem anything any Muslim tries to do to distance and condemn ISIS is never good enough for a lot of folk, it’s like some people get a sugar rush from sneering…
Could the ‘red thumbers’ try use words to articulate why they disagree with my comment above? Come on, logical arguments please. I dare you
Anyone who has seen how islam works will understand this is called “taqqiya”. It is a lie and deception to bide their time and not draw down the ire of the host nation until their numbers are larger and they are in a stronger position to dominate the host people. Ireland you have been warned.
Still we won’t see thousands on the streets protesting against the actions of their co-religionists in ISIS and Al Qaeda. Now a cartoon on the other hand, or the Satanic Verses by Rushdie would be a different story.
Why should anyone go on the streets protesting.The terrorists are not representing any religion if they were practicing any religion they wouldn’t murder innocent people.
Religion and fanatical ideology, the route to all evil. We all know it, when will the government grow balls and stamp down hard on these religions in our own country.
Nearly all the major religions has some form of kill the infidel.
And right on cue the apologists are out in force to tell us all religions are ‘equally’ as bad as one another. That’s complete and utter horse $hit. There’s only one religion causing such widespread carnage.
We all know the crimes of the Catholic church around the world but there is no need to go on and on about it.
Muslims get extremely upset if you draw a cartoon of their none existing prophet Muhammad, but when atrocities such as the one in Tunisia happen, they roll out some muppet with a funny hat, to say a few words.
Denise Friary
The terrorists are representing Islam in its purest form.
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them.”
Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”
Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject Islam, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”
Quran (8:39) – “And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah”
Quran (9:14) – “Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people.”
Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”
Quran (17:16) – “And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.”
That was just a short selection of the 100+ verses in the koran commanding Muslims to fight & kill non-Muslims.
@Francie; I guess the only thing to do so is marginalise everyone that practices Islam – 1.3 billion or so. Yes, blanket discrimination, what could be more conducive to peace and attenuating extremism?
But hey, these shootings are like a necessary opiate for some peoples’ prejudices here in the west – nothing better to do so they need a romantic cause to get behind – so sad :(
@Denise – What a naïve comment!
Yes David, all those victims of the beach massacre deserved everything that was coming to them for being westerners, just like those pesky americans…
**facepalm**
Despite apologists like you constantly trying to excuse the actions of the islamofascist lowlife by shifting the focus onto various actions committed against muslim countries, I find it hard to accept that those killed a couple of days ago are anything other than completely innocent victims murdered in cold blood by a vile filthy excuse for a human being.
What has blowing up fellow Muslims in Kuwait go to do with American Policy ?
francie; I assume you haven’t read the old testament then
Well if you’re genuinely just as sickened as anyone else why make a comment about American foreign policy on this thread instead of staying on topic? The very fact that you posted that comment in an unrelated thread suggests that you’re not “just as sickened as anyone else”.
Anyone with eyes and ears knows that America, and especially Israel have committed atrocities in the middle east, and some muslims have every right to be outraged, but that doesn’t justify deliberately targeting innocent people.
Also, if you think this is all to do with American foreign policy perhaps you can also explain why the vast majority of victims of ISIS are other muslims?
They should include Christianity too. Religion is nothing more than a tool to control an impressionable populus . happened here for years people knew what was happening in the Catholic church but were afraid to speak out because they believed it was gods way.
Denise Friary please correct me if I am wrong but I dont remember any ChristianChurch members shooting innocent holidaymakers, beheading hostages etc….
dead right denise
So, for all the people who think EVERY individual Muslim should be held accountable for the actions of the extremists. How do you see this rise in radical Islam being solved? I have known a fair few Muslims in my time. Mainly they were came from Southeast Asia. Wonderful, friendly and understanding people.
Moderate Muslims are one of the best tools against radical Islam as it shows that followers can live a peaceful life that doesn’t involve having to be a psychopath.
Francie,are you as well read on the Talmud?Where it says its on to have sex with 3 year olds?
The vast majority of people are prepared to tolerate moderate Islam on the presumption that moderate Muslims are prepared to tolerate our culture in return.
Yeah because we flooded the streets every time the ira killed somebody in protest
@ francie coffey , excellent piece thanks for sharing….was watching bbc programme this moring where muslim guy tried to brow beat another panalist that there was no mention of “jihad”/ war in the Quran….you have just illustrated otherwise.
* panelist*
Alphonse delatouche
Apparently, yours is a common accusation by anti-Semites.
It didn’t take me 2 minutes to discover the truth online, & make a liar out of you.
In the example that you cite, that a Jew may marry a 3-year-old girl, it simply means that under the age of 3, a “marriage” contract has no validity. Beyond that, any “marriage arrangement” made at above the age of 3 must be accepted and validated by the girl herself at such time that she attains maturity.
The Talmud is discussing a technical legal point, not condoning abhorrent sexual activities.
…you simple clown..you Google the subject and paste from aish.com… watch yossi gurvitz annihilate his own religion… and dig a little deeper in future… https://youtu.be/YSy6ENVAJlY
Scips… I don’t see Jewish people in the U.S. and Europe protesting atrocities carried out by their “co-religionists” in Israel.
Your bigotry is see-through.
Alphonse delatouche
Tut tut – temper temper. – Your lies are exposed, so you resort to ‘ad hominem’ – a sign that you realise you have lost the argument.
The sad part is, that you know for a fact that you are telling lies, – but this permitted in islam, – it is called, ‘Taquiyya’
Scipio (love yourself do you?) anyway I don’t remember seeing anyone here marching when the IRA were doing their worst
Good man Francie…green thumb yourself…you haven’t a clue about the subject…bye
Alphonse delatouche
Somehow I think this is not ‘bye’.
You could not refute the evil verses in the koran, – so you tried to deflect, by trying to demonise the Talmud, – no doubt then then, you’ll try to demonise the Bible, in another attempt to deflect.
I have seen these pathetic efforts, time & time again, liars like you, parroting the same worn-out falsehoods about Judaism and Christianity, Then, when your lies are exposed, you get nasty, & then issue threats, but eventually, run away with your tail between your legs.
Francie, both Muslims and Non-Muslims are in the same position, both looking at the news saying “look what they have done to us”
Do Christians March on the streets about the Lord’s Resistance Army in Uganda? Of course not because they’ve never heard of them because the media loves to sensationalise Islamism.
That just isn’t true. Islam if taken literally is sickening and violent but you are so unbelievably simple minded if you think Christianity and Judaism are any better. Even Buddhism has created terrorism.
God tells people to commit genocide in the bible and punishes them when they fail to complete the job. The Bible is arguably more blood soaked than the Quran.
Christian scriptures are dormant because most Christian countries are developed and there is no need for a radical ideology.
ISIS kills more Muslims by far than anybody else. If anybody thinks they are anti western using Islam as a cover they are mistaken. Pure evil.
They kill more muslims because they are based in muslim countries. They would love to have thousands of westerners on their doorstep to kill. The fact is they don’t and they are a bunch of cowards killing people who are more vulnerable than us.
They will.
40000 Muslim refugees being rescued in the med.
ISIS will have their men hiding within the refugees.we are welcoming them in,then they will attack us,but yet Christians are being slaughtered all over the Middle East.why are we not rescuing them??
Question. “Irish” Muslims, how many are actually Irish ? I’d really like to know. And by Irish, I mean born and raised, not married in or passport holders like that kid in Egypt.
You’re right, let’s kick them all out. Of course, since there are no Irish-born people in other people’s countries we have no reason to worry the same will happen to our own.
Who said “kick them out” ? I’m merely asking the question how many are foreign nationals living here under the Irish Muslim umbrella.
Both parents have to be Irish for you to be Irish
Ha, since when?
It’s good to see but more needs to be done.
Each and every decent Muslim needs to speak out against violence committed in their name. They need to do whatever possible to keep their children away from these people and their ideals. And they need to report anyone preaching or trying to convert children to this evil.
There was a dissident republican bomb found in West Belfast yesterday. Have you loudly condemned this (thwarted) act of terrorism that was carried out in your name? Are you disappointed that very few of your fellow citizens seem to have done so? I mean, a few have posted comments about it, but I haven’t seen any marches about it. Or calls for the border to be closed to stop these republican terrorists freely wandering the island.
My point is that “not vocally condemning to the level I require” is not the same as “condoning”.
Muslim groups in Ireland and the UK routinely condemn ISIS and all the other groups commuting these atrocities, but the media rarely picks up on it. Should we condemn Muslims, therefore for not shouting loud enough, or our media for not listening?
I think it is well acknowledged that radicals are the exception not the rule within these communities. However it is my opinion that the ability to policing and remove these elements lies within that community
Do a Google on this and you will be a suprised by what UK and US security services say. They estimate about 15 percent of Muslims are radicals which equates to millions.
The FBI also released a report recently declaring that white American males are the single biggest terrorist threat in their country. Don’t let the facts get in the way.
Both sides looking at the actions of the other saying “look at what they have done to our people”
What’s colour or nationality got to do with my comment?
define radicals. Iona are Christian radicals. Doesn’t mean they’re killing people, doesn’t mean they aren’t either though
Unfortunately the peaceful majority are irrelevant! It is the 350 million radical minority that is the problem.
http://youtu.be/Ry3NzkAOo3s
350 million ?
Where are all the people demanding that ordinary decent Catholics sign declarations saying they won’t molest children?
I.2 billion Muslims of which 15-25% are radicals. That is between 125 and 350 million.
You get attitude on here for questioning anything but here goes….
I’m not sure where you’re getting those numbers.
There are more than 1.2 bn muslims in the world – and what exactly is a “radical” as defined by the unidentified source of your claims.
Oh, and before someone tries to shut down the conversation with one of the usual “apologist” comments – asking the above doesn’t put forward a position.
Heres one source-disclaimer-take it with a pinch of salt…
Lol “Muslim integration”
More people like Al-Qadri are needed in muslim communities, as unfortunately there are a minority of extremists and crackpots in their community, examples in Ireland include:
Ibrahim Buisir, Al-Qaeda supporter who lives in Ballinteer.
Ismail kotwal, imam of Blackpitts Mosque, Liberties and supporter of the Taliban
Hussein Halawa (Ibrahim Halawa’s father), member of the Muslim Brotherhood, supporter and associated to Al-Qaradawi, the Holocaust Supporter and leader of Clonskeagh Mosque who alarmingly have a youth movement known as the Federation of Student Islamic Societies (FOSIS) .
What is also disturbing is that some of these individuals are imams, recognised as ideological leaders in their communities and mosques, what kind of message, example is that setting?
All these individuals should be excommunicated from the muslim community, and if those actions were taken, then I think the public can say that proactive measures are finally being adopted. Legislators, gardai and immigration services should coordinate to reprimand these individuals and have them deported (all the individuals mentioned previously have dual citizenships).
Trinity College, UCD and several mosques around the country should not give a platform to hate preachers like sheikh mekki, as they did recently with, and stonewall people like Maryam Namazie who speak out against radical preachers from speaking freely. The media like Cork Red FM should not give a platform to people like 9/11 supporter Anjem Choudary.
All these organisations, institutions and communities need to unite and stop facilitating hate speech, this will at least be one step forward instead of 10 steps backwards into the abyss of apathy and complicity.
Yet our Blasphemy laws protect our imaginary friends & actually encourage outrage. Well done to Dermot Ahern, Fianna Fail & the Greens… arseholes.
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Im not sure if this kind of condemning is common or if it makes a difference in the mind of a brainwashed terrorist, but its a step in the right direction. Fair play to this guy. Maybe less will sign up to fight with religious extremists if the religions followers shun them for it.
This sort of condemnation happens way more than is reported
Any word from the Muslim Brotherhood HQ in Clonskeagh? Are the guys in Blanch Shia?
Is the “Irish” teenager in the Cairo prison still on hunger strike? They’ve been conspicuously quiet this week
He’s having a sly snackbox while nobody is looking.
Jimmy Jim-Jim
A sly snackbox at ‘Alan’s snackbar’ perhaps…??
Their chicken is da bomb. If it’s not cooked properly you may get explosive diarrhea.
Naïveté is an unfortunate infliction.
islsm is s religion of peace Not
No one has come up with a workable solution. Unfortunately I don’t think one exists and we are getting a birds eye view into the future
Yes, there is a workable solution – support people prepared to condemn these atrocities and help them identify and deal with radical elements fomenting hate and intolerance.
I would like to see at least one more organisation condemn these atrocities, but this is a start and is to be supported IMHO.
I notice Mr Halawa head of the Muslim Brotherhood in Europe seems to have missed the opportunity to add the condemnation of his organization to that of his associates in the Muslim community. I wonder why!!!!
The world belongs to us all if people want to live in any country in the world they should be allowed to.I bet most of ye clowns wouldn’t like someone discriminating against you.
Denise, your knowledge of the world, economics and human nature must be astonishingly limited to make such a ridiculous comment.
Robert if you are rich you can get into any country especially Ireland.
Denise to get into Ireland all you have to do is claim Asylum , just ask the multitudes from all those sunny countries who ‘ love ‘ being Irish
Rich people generally aren’t a threat to the working class wage, don’t drain social welfare and are good for a country’s economy especially if they open businesses. You are demonstrating your naivety again.
Some of the rich are criminal also and avoid paying tax on a big scale.
So we should discriminate against all of the rich based on the actions of a few? If we take away their money then you have just contradicted your first point.
Denise Irish people are discriminated against all the time, just ask those on housing waiting lists that are Que jumped by or so called asylum seekers
@ denise friary while there is no doubt many wanting to come to ireland are paying to get here( taken advantage by their own people to get here) however they do not “PAY” when they reach here because unfortunately our government have left anyone in to be fed, housed, nursed and receive benefits…when the time is right they then go back to the country they ” had to flee” for a holiday and spread the word to the multitudes to claim asylum…..simples!
Asylum seekers get about €12 a week and that’s all. Where are all these benefits they’re getting? They live in Direct Provision Centres, where is all the social housing they’re taking? They’re not allowed to work while their asylum applications are being processed, where are all the jobs they’re taking from the Irish?
You’re all so eager to hate on foreigners that you can’t even recognise the difference between the asylum process (the duration of which is due to our own government’s incompetency rather than people “milking the system”) and legal immigration.
If they are granted status (sometimes after as long as a decade), and suddenly given a house straightaway, can you provide some statistics please? Not just an analogy of a friend who was waiting on social housing and then another family was given one ahead of them, I’m sure those stories are just that, or the people who claim them just saw a foreign looking family and assumed they were asylum seekers.
Hey, it’s not like there’s rampant evidence of that kind of thing going on, it’s not like the Gards and the HSE kidnapped a child because some bloke didn’t like his neighbours being foreign and reported them for the crime of having a blonde child.
A person’s first asylum application is processed within a few months at most. Multiple appeals made by the applicant are what draw the process out, but that will never be felt with as free legal aid is making barristers, solicitors and those running the centres a fortune. They only get €12, but what expenses have they? Also you seem to assume they can’t work because they haven’t been granted asylum. Did it occur to you that they might work illegally?
Did the Gardai kidnap a child? How much was the ransom? Ffs ease off the hyperbole.
Oh no, I said kidnap when a ransom wasn’t asked for. My entire point is invalidated!!! You realise you just agreed with everything I said, just rewording it to make it sound like all the faults in the system are caused by the asylum seekers while admitting that it’s our government’s own messed up system?
While you’re at it, if you’d like to apply that cutting logic of yours to my point about anti-immigration people’s hyperbole concerning social housing, I’ll be sitting here on the edge of my seat.
And to satisfy your only valid point in that entire rebuttal: In fact the Gardaí and the HSE “abducted” two children based on nothing but hair colour and racist presumptions. Both families were living and working here 100% legally, but it’s hard for the bigots to believe that anyone who’s not white and/or a native English speaker could not be a welfare cheat.
If an asylum seeker is there for 10 years is because they won’t take no for an answer. The only fault the system has is that it allows multiple appeals because the luveens on the left can’t believe economic migrants are abusing the asylum system to get into the country.
Those granted asylum are eligable for social housing without having continued anything. also you ignored my points about the stipend and working illegally.
Would you rather the HSE and Gardai didn’t investigate such claims for fear of causing offence? If you have an issue then it should be with the person who lodged the complaint and not with those who were following procedures put in place for the safety of children. Accusing then off kidnapping a child based on racism leads to the kind of paralysis seen on Rotherham.
@ bryan kelly i have first hand experience what they get and dont get! not allowed to work officially bryan!!! unless you are working in the area have a look around you and open your eyes….they get €19.10 per week and extras for children…..oh by the way try running a car on ” your €12 per week or better still try a diesel gussler 06 merc on €12!!! i d love to know the secret because i know i could run a car on €12/€19 a week.
some one else has answered you regards status being granted…it does not take 10 years!! get your facts correct.
also , down through the years i have heard and spoken to people with your argument and in the beginning i was truely sorry for the plight of some but when you experience really what is going on it is sickening…also the same people like yourself when our organisation were looking for homes for some of them to go do for the christmas or share their christmas dinner were the first to refuse or tell us they were going to relations! if you are that passionate, go to one of the centres offer your services and help….they are in desperate need of child minding services as most have black economy jobs to go to and dont what to pay each other or others to mind their children!
*contributed anything
@ jimmy jim-jim well said on both comments
*couldnt run*
Daz raysis Ann.
@ jimmy jim-jim when some one is telling it as it is its always racist!! the truth always hurts…
If I was profiting off the asylum farce I’d be delighted to have Bryan move the spotlight away from me and into the people who have to pay for the charade.
Oh boy… Allow me to explain in a way you can understand Denise, yes, the world belong to us and we should be allowed to live in every country, BUT taking the fact that every country allows that person to live the same way he/she was livin in his host country. e., I can’t enjoy the freedoms I take for granted in Saudi Arabia or some Islamic nations. The day my wife is able to wear mini skirts, walk alone, hit the pub, kiss me in public, and I am allowed to login to pornhub, go to a rock concert and my gay friends being abe to get married, then, we can’t allow their people to use our freedom to their advantage and allow them to live under Shariah in the west. This is not Star Wars or Star Trek where other different people live side by side respecting each other, even so, if you were to live in the planet Klingon you would have to adapt to their rules, same goes to Vulcans, etc.
Even Mr Al Khadris statement is a little worrying when he uses the term “Muslims an non Muslims”. It reveals the inherent disdain which Islam has for other religions and cultures.
Where do ‘Irish’ Muslims stand on the issues that lead to their ideology producing so many murderous attacks on those of other religions? How can they condone FGM ? Honor Killings and acid attacks? Treating women as chattels ? Murder of Gay people? Failure to adapt to the ways of countries which they are colonising ? Whinging and moaning at every opportunity at imagined slights such as the display of the Crucifix in Christian schools or when some Kuffar has the cheek to eat while they are fasting for Ramadan? FIFO.
Who funds his organisation .
Who finds IONA?
They largely fund themselves through taxation and oil smuggling. They also have donors in the upper crust of Saudi and Gulf societies.
ISIS btw, not iona.!
Are they lost ?
The amount of likes objectively racist comments are getting on this topic is quite disturbing.
I think it’s irritating that the media feels they should wheel out Muslims in Ireland every time there’s a terrorist attack to condemn it, it just reinforces prejudice against Muslims. For example I doubt the American media dragged out a random white man and asked him to condemn the Charleston massacre and then have to defend himself from accusations that white people are inherently violent, starting multiple wars in the middle east, are all racist and use the loner/mental health excuse every time one of ‘their own’ is involved in terrorist attacks…
Just read through all the comments on here. Now I’m off out to demand my Muslim neighbours a few doors apologise for what they’ve done. It’s only right really isn’t it?
Well at least you seem to know who they are
See it to believe it, it could be a PR stunt, anythin, now all of a sudden they are condemning terrorist attaccks when they were silence durin all other attacks in modern history. You have to do better than this, you have a very loooooooooooong way to go buddy.
In fairness Saul , the Muslims who have arrived in Kilkenny from all those lovely countries have said they will obey Irish Law , isn’t that very good of them ? , I wonder why they felt the need to tell us ?
Ths issue we are having is that one can obey the Irish law and still impose shariah peacefully and democratically. You have to see the freedom proven track records of their countries and see how the treat people who are not Muslims. All they have to do is reproduce in a way they are doing at present, having 4-5 children, bring their families, etc and one day at the current birth ratio (may not in our life time) they will be the majority in Ireland and all they have to do is run a referendum imposing Shariah and they would win it and democratically make us all to live under Shariah.
No real Muslim would do this in Ramadan… So it proves what ISIS are?
More and of these attacks are happening and always getting closer to home , is it only a matter of time before it happens here ? To many of these groups are living in Ireland using Ireland as a safe haven to raise funds and to make their group stronger , sending people to all parts of the globe from Ireland . I hope some sort of organisation is watching them here . I am sure out neighbours are . Ireland proved that we are a very welcoming nation but we still have to watch the people we are letting into Ireland
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