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'We just don't seem to be going anywhere': Ó Cuív worried by FF's 'becalmed' poll status

The veteran Fianna Fáil deputy has denied that his concern about the party’s stagnation in the polls is a criticism of the leadership, but said some members may not share his level of ambition.

FIANNA FÁIL TD ÉAMON Ó Cuív has expressed concern about what he has described as Fianna Fáil’s “becalmed” status in the opinion polls, but has denied it is an explicit criticism of the party leader Micheál Martin.

“It’s nothing to do with Micheál Martin per se, this can’t be reduced to one person,” he told TheJournal.ie this morning, saying the party’s 20,000 members “can all up our performance”.

The Galway West deputy said that some people in the party may lack the ambition he has for it, but declined to say who specifically he is referring to.

“I think some people’s expectations of what is possible wouldn’t be as ambitious as mine,” he said, adding: “I don’t differentiate [between grassroots and the leadership] in the way that the media seem to do. We are one totality.”

Ó Cuív tweeted last night after the latest Ipsos MRBI poll for the Irish Times showed Fianna Fáil at 22 per cent, which he described as “becalmed”:

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Asked why he thought the party was stagnating in the polls, the former minister said this morning: “I don’t know, we got up from the 17 [at the last general election] to 22/23 per cent. At one stage, we went a little beyond that, but we seem to have fallen back.

“We just don’t seem to be going anywhere. The worrying thing is we got 29 per cent in the last local elections. So, we’re up on the general election, but we’re not at the local election level.”

He said the party “haven’t been great at explaining” some of the decisions it took in government or emphasising that the current government is, in his view, implementing “the four-year plan and the whole scenario we laid out in 2010″.

“As time goes on now the decisions are seen to be much more rational and much more sensible then they might have seemed in the heat of the moment in the 2008, 2009, 2010 period,” he said.

“It now seems to everybody that the easy answers of the opposition at the time were not operable. We don’t seem to have got that message across, and we just have to keep pounding it.”

He said that the party had to be “self-critical” from the front bench down to the ordinary members but said there would be no point in changing the frontbench team as all members of the parliamentary party are part of it.

“This is not about the leadership and you can ask me that question and you won’t get a different answer. This is about Fianna Fáil, we care about Fáil,” he insisted.

He said that the party should be recruiting, but said that more important than taking members into the parliamentary ranks, such as Colm Keaveny last week and possibly Peter Mathews in the coming weeks, “the most important place [to recruit] is at grassroots level.”

“If people want to join at parliamentary level that’s fine, but it’s not where you make your long term growth,” he said.

As the grandson of Fianna Fáil founder Eamon De Valera, Ó Cuív is highly regarded within the party but has clashed with the current leadership before after advocating a No vote in the Fiscal Treaty referendum last year.

This led to him being effectively sacked as the party’s deputy leader, as well temporarily losing the Fianna Fáil whip.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 9:25 AM

    The cherry on the cake is Saudi are on the UN council for human rights. Money talks folks.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 10:51 AM

    @Brian harris:
    It’s a phuckin joke isn’t it.

    Israel sum to be pulling an Israel. Slaughtering and murdering thousands of people in Yemen, bullying those who object, and meddling in the affairs of other nations.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 5:48 PM

    @Jim Ni Suilleabhain: True Jim. Israel and Saudi seem to be close allies led by the yanks and brits who supply the weapons.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 9:37 AM

    Well done Canada. About time that somebody tells Saudi Arabia what they think of them.

    Perhaps the next step should be is the stopping the sale of weapons to them as well.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 1:34 PM

    “Trudeau argues that sale of more than 900 armoured vehicles is in line with Canada’s foreign and defense policies”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/21/justin-trudeau-defends-canada-arms-sales-to-saudi-arabia

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    Aug 7th 2018, 11:37 PM

    @George Vladisavljevic: And Israel is giving the Saudis plans on how to build a nuclear power plant with plans on how to build nukes, Israel probably get hit by those nukes first???

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    Aug 8th 2018, 12:44 AM

    @George Vladisavljevic: Trudeau parks his principles so as not to get in the way of business and Real Politics

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    Aug 7th 2018, 9:27 AM

    Its time the Saudis came out from living in the Dark ages ,Human rights go beyond borders and sovereignty.Canada should be supported by all believers in democracy and civil liberties

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    Aug 7th 2018, 10:18 AM

    @Anthony Gallagher: the 10,000 or so princes would prefer if they don’t. That way they can spend their billions of dollars on fast cars, prostitutes, drugs and other excesses while in Europe while telling their people what they can and cannot do back home.
    Someday their people will realize that while they’ve been prostrating themselves before Allah their leaders have been indulging all the things they claim are evil symptoms of western countries.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 9:03 AM

    Hopefully the Canadians don’t retaliate with similar measures lest they be accused of a Muslim ban.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 9:09 AM

    How many immigrants has the US backed saudis taken in since the conflict started. none.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 10:41 AM

    Are these the same people taking over Waterford?

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    Aug 7th 2018, 10:11 AM

    Time to shut down all contact with Saudis and kick them out of every civilized country. They are responsible for terrible atrocities and funding IS.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 10:41 AM

    Saudi Arabia – “If you criticise us, there will be consequences.”
    Canada – “Ok, Eff Off.”

    Except the Canadians are way to polite to give this response..

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    Aug 7th 2018, 2:17 PM

    @David Knight: And way too compromised by their sale of arms to Saudi

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    Aug 7th 2018, 12:48 PM

    Europe needs to stand firm with the canadians. I believe that leo has asked the powers in brussels to unfriend them on facebook – that will teach them not to threaten another 9 11 on our friends.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 1:56 PM

    @Toby Thedogk: Saudi Arabia threatened another 9/11?

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    Aug 7th 2018, 2:36 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Not sure what was meant there either .. But Bin Laden and his Contruction Empire family were/are Saudi’s and current Saudi Dictator, who Obama even went to congragulate on his corranation, was the chief cheque writer for ISIS.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 3:31 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: yesterday they posted a picture of a plane about to hit a canadian building on an official saudi twitter account. Since deleted. Western media must have been told to not to report it.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 2:16 PM

    Why don’t the left wing groups protest as much outside Saudi or Turkish embassy’s or visits, as much as they would Trump?

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    Aug 7th 2018, 1:55 PM

    Why would ANYONE in their right mind ever want to even consider this medieval country,

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    Aug 7th 2018, 12:21 PM

    Saudi diplomacy – No-one talks about anything.- except US.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 9:01 AM

    Fu.ck Saudi Arabia I say, much prefer Russian petrol anyway.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 2:33 PM

    Saudis are not evil .. America says so .

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    Aug 7th 2018, 11:34 PM

    @Irish Bob: Wahhabism was invented there instead of soccer, says everything about kicking a wife about instead of a ball as a past time?

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    Aug 7th 2018, 11:35 PM

    @Irish Bob: The US is acting now more like Babylon than the Babylonians were lol.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 7:02 PM

    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” So a said Edmund Burke.

    At least Canada spoke up. The rotten Irish elected in our Dail, are either too cowardly to speak up or too busy with their political games, to do the right thing. Meanwhile women’s rights suffer still.

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    Aug 7th 2018, 3:52 PM

    World has gone into crazy chaos …. all these toys being thrown out of all these prams.

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