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IN 1983, THE Zimbabwean prime minister Robert Mugabe made a state visit to Ireland. Prior to his visit, there were considerable security arrangements to be made.
In a state document dated 30 August 1983, states that the security arrangements for the Mugabe visit “are very much greater than in the case of most state visits” adding that over the past several years there have been many threats made against Mugabe both “inside and outside Zimbabwe” due to “his policies and leadership of ZANU”.
Threats against his life
The document states that the threats against Mugabe were probably at their worst during the elections in 1980 and following that when attempts were made on his life. It went on to say that the threat against his life still exists.
Therefore, it was recommended that the “Department of Justice should be advised that the Mugabe visit requires additional security precautions to those that would normally apply in the case of such visits”.
It added:
The implications of any ‘unfortunate event’ for Ireland’s international reputation do not, I think, need to be spelled out.
The Department of Justice was also advised that Mugabe’s biggest threat most likely came from South Africa.
The document states: “While it seems unlikely that South Africa would wish to go so far as to secure the removal of Mugabe… it is a possibility that cannot be excluded.
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The fools who defaced a WW2 memorial are shown up for what they are, uneducated fools. If it wasn’t for the brave men and women who gave their lives during this time, the people demonstrating, and free to do so under the umbrella of democracy, very well might not be able to as they could be living in a dictatorship. It just sickens me to the core when idiots do stuff like this, it really does.
Everywhere we look we see police officers in yellow wielding batons to defend the 1% of the wealth and yet also forcing everyone to pay for their upkeep …
There is something wrong with this …
Are we reaching a point in history where globally the police are seen as part of the problem and not the solution !
Are the Gardaí going to enforce evictions like they did water meters ?
Good luck to them with that if they are !
The R.I.C. needed guns the last time the rich tried to pull off that stunt !
Front of the Sunday Business Post – Must see , I was wondering why the public service unions quietened down after they were up in arms not so long ago and managers being appointed in the H.S.E. ast the cost of patient care -…
Hermes the gardai are already called to many evictions and assist when the resident/family barricades up the residence
Hermes. Whether these People (and I use the term lightly) cannot accept the democratic will of the British population then they have no right to live in that society. The Conservatives won the election fair and square. It was the choice of the majority to continue with the economic policy of the previous government. They don’t have to like it but they do have to accept it. This was not even a protest just a bunch of hooligans seeking an excuse to fight with the Police.
So your attempt to lay the blame for this at the door of the Police is contemptible.
They’re in trouble so – a lot of people with connections in the civil service and tax office …
A garda goes to an eviction and throws out a family – the neighbour who has a cousin in the tax office has a brother in the tax office and he also is a member of the Golf Club where one of the Gardaí turns up every year in a new merc. and he the only one working in the family …..
“I love it when a plan comes together !” Hannibal Smith.
I agree with you on you undemocratic point but “hooligans looking for a fight” is stretching it as you don’t know who started it. Many pictures online of police choking protestors and people getting punches to the side etc…
Except 35% isn’t a majority.
36.9% is a majority? They won the majority of seats, that does not mean the majority of British people chose the Tories.
Your argument would be valid if voting was compulsory in Britain – that was so fair about the Scottish Referendum – the high turnout Mick .
The majority of people who know the benefit of voting want the conservatives in …those who don’t vote resort to different methods and if they are not listened to eventually the numbers swell to the point where the police either stand to one side or are outnumbered if they choose to impoverish the same people for the benefit of a self-chosen few….
Sorry – too many relations in the other post – but you get what I mean …
Weird to see an Irish contributer rolling off Brit propaganda so easily, like the their empire was this bastion of free speech, peace and tolerance to begin with.
36.9% of those who voted … the percentage dilutes further !
Connor. The British had a referendum whether to change their Electoral system from the First Past the Post to the PR system. They chose to keep the FPP system. And because they chose the keep that system the Conservatives won a majority of seats in Parliament.
The biggest section of Britain in this election was non voters. The biggest section of non voters were the low income, low educated and disenfranchised people that you see on the social housing lists, at the food banks or working zero hour contracts. The very people I wished would have voted.
But in one sense are they not architects of their own misfortune – they don’t organise themselves politically ?
That’s why they are kept poor and ignorant I suppose – they are mobilising now …
This is nothing new of course England has a long history of disenfranchisement with the Monarchy – Queen Victoria nearly got thrown out sure !
Kevin. That was their choice. That is democracy. Just like if someone chooses not to vote in our upcoming referendum that will be their choice. And if they then don’t like the result they have no right to complain because they chose not to take part.
Indeed…. A plurality is the correct word rather than a majority.
Doesn’t make it any less valid though, more people want the Tories to govern than want others.
We have nothing about political parties in our secondary schools and nothing about voting either.
My 35 year old work colleague from a deprived area never voted in her life because she believed it was rigged for Fianna Fail.
Mick I’m well aware it was their choice and it’s their choice to come protest and if true clash with police. What I disagree with is your assumption they are hooligans looking for a fight.
Mick you have no idea whatsoever how poverty disempowers people do you ?
Think of it as the poor are born with a donkey and the rich with a racehorse … and the guy with the racehorse keeps forcing the poor to race with their donkey – eventually they give up !
…… or lie low until the greedy ones loose the run of themselves then they rise as one as more of the middle class are forced to poverty through the austerity politics which served as cover , it may seem , for some very shady dealings behind closed State Doors !
John Bowe was getting to do an ould course that cost the taxpayer 5 grand and a heap of redundancy probably – who wrote that law ?
The Minister for Jobs , the Minister for Education , The unelected Economic Management Council…
Do ye know something – I don’t think Goering or Himmler or a lot of them lads stood for office ..maybe I’m wrong , maybe they were politicians..
@Hermes
The British police have had their pensions slashed and have to work longer for less. They have had their wages slashed and many take home less in their pay packet than what they did in 2011. A bobby that joins the police now takes home just £2,500 more than what the same bobby did in 1994. Real recruitment has stopped, stations are emptying and in some places the numbers of those leaving are at record level. A BBC article put those that are thinking of leaving at 92%.
Your comment may get thumbs up and your voice heard but your statement is just plainly wrong.
Hermes. Your view of the world is simplistic. Socialism is an utter failure. Everywhere it has been tried it has failed completly and utterly causing more pain and disruption for the very poor it was supposed to help.
People aspire to being rich. People work at getting nice things for themselves and their families. There are many many examples of extremely wealthy people that started out on the lower social rungs of life. Prime example Richard Branson, Alan Sugar,Steve Jobs but to name a few. But you and your ilk would deny them their wealth or even the chance to aspire to it.
Kevin. Who goes on a “Peaceful Protest” with their faces covered?
Poor mick ignoring the questions and responding with points not related to the conversation
But I am talking about Irish Gardaí …Spriggsy – two completely different animals ..
there is a reason our Gardaí don’t have guns – they had them before and abused the privilege to keep foreigners filthy rich !
I didn’t know about that and the british police …. bad sign for the State of things – Baby or no Baby ..
Many at a perfectly peaceful cannabis protest I organised did , did you know you can cover your face whenever you want?
As in I can go to a protest wearing normal clothes and then if protest goes sout one can out their hood up or tie their scarf around their face. Your assuming things again mick
Kevin. What are you waffeling about. I have replied to both you and Hermes.
Fools maybe, but while Britain languished in the fruits of victory after WW2 and did little to rebuild their country. German women meanwhile set to work cleaning up the mess and helped rebuild their country with their bare hands. This then marks the difference which has seen Germany become wealthy and Britain go to the dogs.
I don’t suppose the bailout of Germany by ireland , UK and many others played any part ? We never got that money back by the way
Why Kevin. If you are doing or planning to do nothing illegal or are not wanted by the Police then what have you to fear?
@Mick I’m fully aware how their system works. Was just pointing out that it wasn’t the ‘choice of the majority’, as you claimed. Winning the majority of seats and the majority of votes are two completely different things.
Mick – nowhere where “socialism has failed ” – and I agree with you that it has , has there been a socialist Government ..
Hitler
Mao
Stalin
Castro
all started out as socialists but became something else with power in their grip …
Perhaps Cuba deserves a brownie point because of the yank’s blockade …. it was never let develop and still has an excellent health system by all accounts – a good pointer of good use of resources for the benefit of the whole – the very basis of socialism …
The problem with socialism is that it eventually attracts some very violent and ruthless people and these usually build a dictatorship based on one leader – The munificent One ” – that will take no questions…
You know what I mean !
it also attracts those who would support such a leader – it is a defect in the herd mentality of humanity !
Ireland has got more than its fair share since joining the European Union and has squandered a lot of it on stupid projects to keep our governments in power.
Hermes. You say Cuba deserves a brownie point. But just look how many Cubans aspire to leave and have left and go to the US to get away from the Socialists. Look at Venezuela. Oil rich but the economy is in the toilet. Inflation sky high, power cuts, shortages in the shops, worthless currency, horrendous crime rate. That is Socialism today.
In 2011 Canada’s NDP removed every reference to socialism from its party constitution.
Last year New Zealand’s Labour party was demolished in their parliamentary elections.
This week Britain’s Labour party discovered that its lurch to the left offered no traction with voters. It would seem that after a century of failure and destruction voters finally appear to have woken up to the malevolence and impotence of socialism.
The UK elections demonstrate a growing skepticism of socialism among voters rather than an endorsement of conservative party policies.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2682749/Labour-target-centre-says-Mandelson-Grandee-believes-party-not-win-election-continues-lurch-left.html
Chris you are right about your second point – but 200 billion in fish gone – what was that in processing jobs and fishing jobs alone ?
Export of live animals and carcasses – lowest profit for producer handiest profit for middle men ..etc.
Sean – I think it is more a swing away from pretend socialists – Tony Blair nor Eamon Gilmore were no socialists but happy to let socialists vote for them in the understanding that they were !
I disagree, Dermot. Socialism hasn’t actually been tried in these Islands to a sufficient extent. Proper socialism asks for equality of treatment and equality of opportunity. Equality of outcome can never be dictated owing to the different qualities of individual human beings. Efforts can, however, be made to temper the worst traits of human beings by implementation of just laws.
Hermes. People are rejecting the left across the globe with a few exceptions. The centre right is in the acendency. People want the capitalist system. They want to aspire to getting rich. They want the big house, the nice car, to travel first or business class on holidays. That is human nature. The Chinese government recognized that giving its people capitalism will keep them happy and content and that is would repress the thoughts of rebellion. People don’t care if its a King or a Party that’s in charge as long as they can grow their wealth and have nice things and live in comfort.
Mick – look at America – that is Capitalism – how are the Financial Marketeers any different to the Single party system that Capitalism wrongly promotes …
It all ahs to do with words rather than any ideology being better than the other – the fact is that power attracts vicious people to its bosom regardless of system ..
It’s the whole reason we have laws – to prevent socialism for a small group turning into a monopoly …
THE BANKERS IN Ireland ARE A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOCIALISM – ALL OF THEM LOOKING AFTER EACH OTHER – No loyalty to state or tax-take there !
Same mentality as Stalin or any of them – “No rules because they are great altogether sure !”
No Mick – people do not want a capitalist system – what they want is fair wages for time spent making society function ….
It isn’t capitalism – that is merely a layer of management that self-promotes itself that can deliver everything to everyone through money –
!”It’s a bout the economy stupid !” ….
Of course life isn’t about the economy unless of course one is addicted to money or power or both !
Hermes. Sorry but the global swing to the centre right says you are wrong. What is the alternative to capitalism, Socialism? As I have said that experiment has be a total and utter failure. Capitalism has been around since humans began trading and has survived even thrived. It works. People like it.
Athiestic National Socialism has failed disasterously elsewhere why try it here?
I think you mean atheistic Jim, but either way, lack of belief in god likely has sh@g all to do with why national socialism has failed in most places.
There is reports starting to surface that the person who defaced the world war 2 memorial was seen drinking coffee after it with all his police buddies
If that is true Anthony then we have the Demonstration infiltration squad at work ..
Idiot
But I don’t understand how this could be a “clash”. There isn’t a water balloon in sight. Amateurs.
its clear these protestors are from ISIS….how dare they question the supreme beings
Because Noel Coonan said so!
I wonder has he voted or even turned up in dail since that comment
Ah yes, RoboCop at the reclaim the streets Dublin protest in 2003 springs to mind when I see these images
The girl with the red hair in the background has a very, very sinister fringe.
and i hope im wrong here, but i think one of those protestors has an iphone in their hand…..the cheek. For the love of god i hope its a 4s
They’re also “travellers” and a “sinister fringe element” – and I can’t remember the other comments. Oh yes, hard left.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
Siteserv anyone?
@Jack Dunne, nothing like the protests here in 2003, as the Police in London today were wearing their epaulettes.
In the UK – 1% of the population own 50% of the wealth.
And those 1% probably pay the majority of tax already….
iT’S NOT ABOUT MAJOTIRTY OF TAX – IT’S ABOUT A LEGAL STAE SPONSORED SYSTENM INSURING WEALTH STAURATION IN NARROW DEFINED FIELDS THAT EBENFIT MOST FROM THAT SYSTEM
sORRY CAP LOCKS ..
And spelling ..
Sober up Ryan – you boring muppet.
e.g. – Arthur Cox getting fees from two sides of a deal – not bad for an office that can only afford paper walls ….
It’s easy to pay tax when you get all the fees isn’t it – in fact you should pay more tax because paper walls are cheaper than concrete ones in homes …
you had your reply as you wrote Will – I aint drunk , but are devoid of manners as usual – are we going to be treated to more of your lewd comments ?
About Bernie’s thrush?
*but “you” are devoid…
………..as you have just proven again ;- manners !
Your fixation is somewhat worrying and should be a subject of further investigation perhaps – alot of sickos out there !
Hermes & Will do you know what the value of assets after debt gets you included in the 1%? €80,000 and to be in to he too 10% that is €40,000.
The figure comes form a credit Suisse survey that calculated, wealth on assets less debts.
The 1% who own most of the wealth are for the most part the owners of companies who employ 1,000s of people. In the USA Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are amongst this 1% of the wealthiest, but look at how many people they employ and give an income to.
Cribbing about the wealth of the top 1% seems to be the mantra of failed left wingers, who clearly don’t understand basic economic principles.
Jaysus Wayne ….. people who bough their council hoses cheap are in the 1% and they never worked a day in their lives …
It just goes to show why cash is King – Asset wealth actually has no value if it has a function and is owned outright by the person owning it !
Your car is worthless if you need it to go to work – because even if you realise the cash value in the asset you still need to buy a car ..
Austerity is all about forcing asset rich people’s assets into the cash rich – a cyclical process and a recipe for revolution !
I think its more so a mantra of anyone with a brain cell who understands that a level of wealth disparity this high is fundamentally wrong, The economic principle your talking about is also called trickle down economics and has been in place for so long and has failed, just because you employ a large number of people does not give you an entitlement to all of the wealth, By that logic should the government stock pile money simply because the employ a large number of people.
Those super rich people don’t give people jobs out of the goodness of their heart ffs! They do it because those people work to make the employers more money. The tenet of capitalism is to use other peoples labour to make you richer, so don’t go harping on about the 1% as if they’re ‘helping’ thousands with jobs- if it was cheaper to have robots do the work, those people would be replaced in a heartbeat, without one notion of ethics or morality.
Typical right wing rubbish
They employ as few people as possible to run the machines that they charge humanity a fortune for Paul – they also are huge employers at the poorest waged countries on the planet !
Hermes, you quoted thee survey by referencing the 1% not me. The point is the 1% figure is absolute nonsense, because of the way or was calculated.
Yes there is wealth disparity but the 1%!figure is an absolute farce, but keep quoting it and people will keep laughing at you
Ross. How did the likes of Richard Branson, Mark Zuccerberg etc get their wealth? Did it just magicaly appear in their accounts one day?
I’m agreeing with you Wayne – hence my comparison of the council house ….
The problem is concentrated in a much smaller number than 1% and humanity is beginning to find these people – The rothschilds, the draghis, the Vatcian bank etc.
Mick, they used capitalism to get super wealthy, as you well know. By using poorer people in third world scenarios, they were able to make massive profits. But hey, who cares if there’s an ethical problem with exploiting other peoples positions to make you money, eh? That’s what the ‘free world’ is built on!
It used to be the case that capitalists could use slave labour to get super rich, but those damned ‘lefty loons’ argued for human rights and so they had to get paid. Thankfully for the right wingers, that wage can be kept ridiculously low so the industrialists can still keep the money flowing in.
Ross and everyone including you and me have the same chances they did under the Capitalist system. If I could become a Billionaire using the sweat and labour of others I wouldn’t even have to think twice about it. I would say where do I start. And so would the vast majority of people. Including you I suspect.
I wouldn’t Mick – that’s gluttony and no glutton is ever happy – just full of hunger oddly enough !
Therein lies the difference between you and me, Mick. I wouldn’t become a billionaire at the expense of others. To me, that is ethically and morally wrong and selfish to the extreme. You know a lot of industrialists, capitalists and the super wealthy have the characteristics of sociopathy?
Well Ross, you always have the option of starting a business and sharing out the profits equally between your employees, or better again giving it all to the less fortunate in society. Somehow I can’t see you doing that either though…
It did for Zuckerberg
The day after Facebook went public.
@avina, seeing as you obviously know me so well, tell me why I wouldn’t start a profit-sharing co-op business?
Call it intuition Ross. If I’m wrong I look forward to getting regular updates as to how its progressing….
I’m no fan of the UK electoral system, but fair is fair when the Conservatives won the majority that they did. How many of these protestors followed Russell Brand in not voting at all? How many of them voted/campaigned for Labour to try and make the alternative happen?
Russell brand did vote and urged other to do so. He also didn’t share this protest so I do agree with the base of your comment but leave russell out of other people’s actions
I like it, keeps the parish pumps out…
The only reason its not here is because we don’t have the population density and the Dail would be empty with such a system.
Ye Russell brand flip flopped and then backed a loser. It shows him up for the brainiac he is.
Russell won’t follow or endorse something because statically they will win. He backs the party he believes will empower the people and bring positive change.
Brand was better when he was buzzing off pillheads on DFC. His endorsment of Miliband was the final nail in the coffin of a disastrous Labour campaign.
On a sidenote Brand has just used the capitalist system he claims to despise to trademark his spelling of ‘Revolution’.
Like most champagne leftists Brand is serious hypocrite.
After telling people they shouldn’t use their vote.
First he said don’t vote when he began to cover political issues then he endorsed Caroline lucas of the green party and finally ed Miliband once realising it’s either tories or labour getting back in.
He used to make millions off the comedy shows and a bit of acting but he threw that away to work on a book and social housing campaigns so looking at this millionaire I say better a millionaire who wants to help people and pay his fair share rather than say a millionaire who votes for tories and their tax cuts and moves his wealth around so he/she can contribute as little as possible.
Russell Brand is what I call selfless, the opposite of a Tory MP
From his private jet??
Actually he stopped using private jets when he started his political work. Why do you have such a problem with a rich person realising society is unfairly set up and actively trying to do something about it?
‘Backed a loser’?!! Is voting like horse racing to you?! Do you support only those who are likely to win? I sometimes dread that Irish voters vote for ‘the lad who’ll win it’ as if it’s a game of football..
I have a few UK friends who wouldn’t be Tory voters but the following is why they did:
1-Labour went to left
2-People don’t like Ed
3-SNP pact, Labour left it to late to make it clear
4-Ed said Labour didn’t spent to much pre 2010, biggest nail in coffin for people. Of you wont admit mistakes how do they expect the public to trust them to continue the economic recovery.
too = many (think more o’s when deciding which to use).
My friends in the UK voted Green because labour are too far to the right.
Some unfortunately voted UKIP because people over there are blaming immigrant for the food banks when in fact it’s welfare cuts and lack of social housing.
Many voted SNP for a national Scotland and 3 voted CISTA for cannabis regulation.
All of my Bristol friends didn’t vote at all because like the majority they don’t see their vote counting.
Red thumb it all you like but this is what happens when the labour party offer similar policies to the tories. “When tory policies is all that’s on offer people vote for the tories”
Largest section is indeed the non voters which was the same in the irish general election. Sucks
Labour under Blair won 3 elections on the bounce because they stuck to the centre. Move to the Left and they become unelectable. Your friends are in a distinct minority.
Kevin. Labour lost because they were perceived to have gone to far left. Most people are centrist whether you like it or not. Only a small minority veer either to the hard left or the hard right. And the Conservatives under Cameron were and are seen by the British public as being centre right.
Everyone in this election was a minority except for non voters
More than welcome to that view mick but I see tories as far right and labour as centre. Greens on the left and SNP took from both left and right
Non-voters were a minority. That’s just a fact, you can’t change it
A minority in the sense they are a smaller section than those who voted but for example more people didn’t vote than voted Tory. So if you were to count non voters as N/A then N/A wins
But Kevin unless you voted in that election your perception is immaterial. The Conservatives gained vote share while Labour lost it. And the voters in the UK (the ones that actually count) perceived that Labour had lurched to the left and they rejected them.
You can’t have it both ways…
Claiming the Tories plurality or relative majority isn’t a true majority.
Then claiming that everyone was a minority except non-voters.
If you lerceive the Tories to be far right you really have no idea what you are talking about.
Perceive
Opening up 1 food bank a week while giving a MP pay rise and tax cuts for millionaires is a right wing policy. How far to the right is open to any opinion.
To rephrase to appease : ” the largest minority in the UK GE were non votes, more people didn’t vote than voted Tory”
And again who’s fault was that? Did anyone prevent them from voting? They chose not to use their vote. They have no right to complain about a Conservative Government.
Some people seem to think they can complain
that the whole process is undemocratic
…and then think they have the right to lay claim to all of the non-voters for the left/labour.
Never called the process undemocratic and never complained. Merely highlighting the millions who didn’t vote and how big a problem it is.
“the largest minority in the UK GE were non votes, more people didn’t vote than voted Tory”
Well then they can hardly complain about the result – in fact if they don’t support the conservatives they’re directly responsible as they could have prevented their election if they had bothered to cast their vote.
As I said already never complained
Have these people no respect for the democratic process which returned a party with under 37% of the popular vote with an overall majority?
Egg – who cares what you think. About the electoral system preferred by the people of another jurisdiction….
Egg it’s only democracy if the left wing loons get their way anything else is clearly fascism.
We shouldn’t care that they have water so either but funnily enough we are told we must – funny isn’t it ? Anything to attack the citizen and it Republican property !
*water meters …arrggghh
edit facility please !
Ryan – sober up and stop trying to post…
They had a chance to change it 2 years ago and voted by over 65% to keep it as is.
pffftt..
This story tells us the British people (loony left) want change, call an election now.
Are we expected to believe they want UKIP to have 3 times the Sears of the SNP?
More click bait for the pro austerity right wing loons who troll here.
***LEFT WING LOON ALERT***
“Left wing loon alert”
Original….Them monkeys pulling the levers in your brain must be hungover today Joe.
This behaviour is indicative of the liberal left, they have no time for democracy or the rule of law.
First read the dictionary references for the words you’ve used then read a history book, come back and apologies for your stupidity.
Before the left we had a Tsar , we had a King of Ireland based in London ..
without the left we have America with its army all over the world !
Law and the left ? Only bad laws come from the right – self-serving divisive laws !
Kevin maybe if you smoked a little less marihuana your comprehension skills would improve.
When I left school and stopped reading the first book a read was “marijuana is safer than alcohol” it’s a great read you should check it out.
Bit harsh to make assumptions about someone you don’t know, Your point made literally no sense and Kevin called you out on it, intelligent debate is probably above your capabilities to be fair though so I wont even bother trying to discuss why so many feel disillusioned with this election over there.
The left or any decent person has no respect for a law that rules Bankers get community service while single mothers get jailed for a tv licence – why should they ?
I type these comments like I type texts, many mistakes but the average “joe” (get it?) Should get the gist of my point.
Hermes. You said before the left we had a Tsar, a King. But what you didn’t say was after the left there came Mao, Stalin, Castro, Pol Pot and the Kim family. Which was worse for humanity I wonder.
Ultra right= Nazi Germany
No point in having a debate on whether the left killed more than the right.
I did Mick in the thread above – half an hour before your post – I explained what went wrong too …
They are only labels for tyrants when it suits them to rise in may ways …
What has Enda Kenny got to do with Michael Collins yet he will let the weak-minded think that he is all for he stood for !
What would Collins have done to Michael Noonan after the Prom Deal ?
In my mind, the Conservative victory really means that these protesters have lost effectively all of their credibility, in the UK at least. You can say all you want about the apparent unfairness of the UK’s electoral system but the fact of the mater is that even under FPP, Labour and the SNP put together still got less of the actual popular vote than the Conservatives. In my mind, these parties were effectively the only ones who even half appealed to the stereotypical “Russell Barnd’esque disillusioned with the economic system/plight for economic equality crowd”.
This result makes for a very interesting landscape in Britain in the next five years, will this apparent “disillusionment with the system” thing rise again in a post economic downturn Britian or has it lost its chance for this generation, that’s the question..
Regardless of these latest protests and indeed the inadequacies of the FPP type of election that the UK has,
One thing is certain – they had better prepare for 5 years of unrest, clashes massive protests and more violence.
This ain`t going to be pretty for anyone living near in or near one of the big population centers, it`s going breed violent opportiunity in some parts, places like Toxteth, Tottenham, possibly parts of the north of England are going to be scary for some and total anarchy for others.
There it is … “Down with this sort of thing ”
You’d think the queen would buy a few barriers and hire them out to the Government – like I heard another Queen in a land far, far away did – It blew up in her face from what I can remember – Trouble ooff-shore or something …
The WW2 graffiti is wrong. Plain and simple. People who gave their lives for freedom may be rolling in their graves at the way the world turned out, but defacing a monument in their honour… Why are protests marred by f*&king morons??
All over the world governments run by and for the elite trying to keep the people down and silence them with batons Difficult to keep a lid on a boiling pot though.
If only our police would baton charge the waster sorry water protesters and other looney left we have in Ireland.
So somebody goes outside there home one morning to several large men refusing to answer the resident as they dig up the footpath in front of their house and you want a baton charge because they tried to stop it? That’s an awful waste of gardai time and HSE costs from the baton charge.
Ireland still has to have a debate on right 2 protest v right 2 work and your acting like it’s already happened
What is there to answer. They are installing a water meter. If people left them alone they could get it done quicker.
Are you for real man? i mean seriously you want people in your country to be baton charged because they disagree with the concept of a privately owned company charging us for substandard water with no improvement of this for years to come when we have already being taxed numerous times for water before this farce was set up. Maybe don’t take everything you hear on the rte news as gospel man.
Yes I do. It’s about time our government took control of these protesters.
And your idea of taking control is to use violence? That is a bit messed up to be fair, also fairly basic human right to protest, any other rights you think people should be stripped of while they are at it?
Took control? It’s a fine way to create chaos. 400,000 minimum not paying atm and you want them assaulted? Only 13000 guards in this country mind you
Kevin. Is the footpath in question on private property or public?
Private of course mick you know that yourself.
So a footpath on a a public street is private property!!! Since when?
When did I say it was private property?
Above all else the right to protest must be protected, right.
Above the safety of those charged with protecting us, above the insensitivity of defacing monuments to those who sacrificed most on our behalf.
At best these people are morons, at worst they are criminals looking for a “cause” to unload their hatred.
And this is how the left treat democracy when things don’t go their way. Maybe if half the brain deads who showed up for this little pow wow went out and voted last Thursday their preferred party may have done better.
And before I’m lambasted, heres an interesting point. EVERYONE is anti austerity, its just that most of us are mature enough to realise that sometimes there has to be bad times, just like sometimes there are good times.
Send iPhone Joan over
Love the slogan “Democracy has failed” they lost deal with it. Disagree by all means but peacefully & come to the table to negotiate to avoid what you view as this ‘end of the world’ result.
That photo of the police at the bottom of the article is an awesome pic, I thought it was posed when I saw it first.
Brilliant.
“fight back”?
If you regard cuts in government spending as some sort of assault on you, then maybe …
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