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Taoiseach Garret FitzGerald shakes the hand of Britain's Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher after signing the Anglo-Irish agreement. AP Photo/Peter Kemp

Thatcher considered redrawing NI border to move Catholic areas south

The plan was revealed by British state papers released under the 30 year rule.

MARGARET THATCHER’S GOVERNMENT considered changing the border in Northern Ireland to bring some predominantly Catholic areas into the Republic of Ireland, British state papers have revealed.

The Financial Times reports (subscription needed) that the proposal was discussed by the UK cabinet to “produce a more homogeneous population in Northern Ireland”.

The 1984 plan was ditched however with the then NI Secretary Jim Prior noting that it would only be considered, “if we were faced with imminent civil war, or as a result of civil war but I do not believe that we have reached that stage.”

The documents laid out negotiations between the Irish and British Governments in the run up to the 1985 Anglo-Irish agreement with the FT reporting that they detailed a “pessimistic tone” about whether a deal could be done.

“The Irish want more than we can give and always will. I doubt whether we shall find a way forward,” Thatcher is reported to have said.

The Guardian is also reporting the former Taoiseach Garret FitzGerald had considered holding  a referendum to give up the Republic’s constitutional claim on Northern Ireland in return for a number of concessions.

The proposed compromise included reforms of the Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) and the introduction of north-south “mixed courts” with judges drawn from both sides of the border.

But continued violence hampered negotiations between the Irish and British Government’s, with the IRA’s 1984 bombing of the Brighton Hotel during the Conservative conference almost derailing talks completely.

After the bombing, which killed five prominent Conservatives including one MP, Thatcher is reported to have said, “The events of Thursday night at Brighton mean that we must go very slow on these talks, if not stop them. It would look as if we were bombed into making concessions to the Republic.”

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    Mute Potatoe-man
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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:27 AM

    What about the ibis near newlands cross??

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    Mute Mairead Hynes
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    Oct 19th 2016, 12:51 PM

    @Potatoe-man: cruelly overlooked again this year.. maybe next time

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    Mute Rob Cahill
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    Oct 19th 2016, 5:15 PM

    @Potatoe-man: I was thinking the Aspect in Park west but that Ibis has a bit more class.

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    Mute David Browne
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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:39 AM

    The journal writing a full article about a site making an error. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

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    Mute Brendan McGill
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    Oct 19th 2016, 2:17 PM

    Yep sure the journal will have people looking for ‘Ballinyfin’

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:20 AM

    In fairness, it looks amazing. Would love to be loaded

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    Mute Brendan Cooney
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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:01 PM

    Last time I was there the food was not great and the place cold! Was a few years ago though and sleeping was in a dormitory.

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    Mute Brendan McGill
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    Oct 19th 2016, 2:12 PM

    Yeah true, but I’ve honestly never even heard of it.. Still great to have the number 1 and a few in the top 10..well done hoteliers

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:23 AM

    Ah big whoop, it’s east instead of north. I’m sure whoever stays there can figure it out. They won’t be navigating by compass.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:39 AM

    Its south-west. East of Dublin is the Irish sea!

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    Mute Brendan McGill
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    Oct 19th 2016, 2:14 PM

    Fine seaweed baths they have!

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:16 AM

    Is it still cheaper than The Shelbourne?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:31 AM

    Waterford castle while nice is no where the nicest hotel in Munster not a mind top ten in the world !!

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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:53 AM

    Can’t say I’ve been to either of the other too. But Ashford Castle is glorious

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:15 PM

    Americans who will spend 600 quid a night on a hotel, 500 quid a day on a private driver guided tour, and then moan at the price of a 2 quid handmade postcard….

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    Mute Oliver P. Dunne
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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:51 PM

    A lovely hotel and well worth the visit. I was very lucky to be able to photograph both interior and exterior. The gold room was unbelievable a place of great beauty. Congrats to all both staff and owners. Unfortunately I could not afford a stay there now.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:28 PM

    Stayed there for a night to celebrate wedding anniversary last year. An out-of-this-world experience.

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    Mute Dave Sherman
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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:44 PM

    Like the moon?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 3:57 PM

    No Laois

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    Mute Gerry Fallon
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    Oct 19th 2016, 10:56 PM

    Denito, you didn’t go in looking like that photo,did you?

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    Mute Martin Flood
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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:28 AM

    And The Journal get the hashtag for this article (#KIM KARDASHIAN) wrong.

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    Mute mcgoo
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    Oct 19th 2016, 11:56 AM

    It doesn’t really fit in in Laois though tbh.

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    Mute Sam Cairns
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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:14 PM

    It has been there for 200 years, no point in moving it somewhere else now.

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    Mute Patrick J. O'Rourke
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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:04 PM

    So the best hotel in the world according to 300,000 readers of the influential New York travel magazine. Basically, Americans.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 3:41 PM

    Went to college there in the 70′s. Use to be run by the patrician brothers. Beautiful couldn’t describe the surroundings thou some of the brothers were a bit effie.

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    Oct 19th 2016, 6:37 PM

    I’ve always wanted to go to Laos

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    Oct 19th 2016, 10:53 PM

    I wonder do they take supervalue coupons in ballyfin?

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    Oct 19th 2016, 1:50 PM

    Built 200 yrs ago in 2014 ?

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    Mute Eugene Conroy
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    Oct 19th 2016, 3:44 PM

    Ballyfer was once won in a game of cards

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    Oct 19th 2016, 10:27 PM

    Kim Kardashian obviously didn’t agree. Didn’t she leave early AND not pay the bill??

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