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9 things we learned from the Reform Alliance’s ‘monster meeting’

The turnout was good, the ideas were flowing and the organisers appeared delighted with themselves. But what chance a political party?

Updated at 9.10pm

EXPELLED AND FORMER Fine Gael TDs organised an efficient and well-run conference at the RDS in Dublin where the attendance of over a thousand people surprised a large and intrigued media contingent.

The conference was being billed as a prelude to the establishment of a political party but the organisers, led by the Reform Alliance’s most prominent member Lucinda Creighton, were keen to emphasise that it was a meeting about ideas and policies.

TheJournal.ie spent the day at the RDS and here’s what we found out…

1. The turnout was larger than expected:

For good reason, the RA set attendance expectations at a low bar of between 400 and 500, but the turnout was well over a thousand, with the RDS concert hall largely full:

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2. There were more men than women – but no ‘squeezed middle’:

In the afternoon, economist David McWilliams told the audience that “large parts of the middle class of this country are bust” and while there’s no doubt many of the people attending today were middle-class there was an interesting gender and age divide.

Olivia O’Leary posed a question at the start of her contribution: “Why am I looking at so few female faces?” Though it wasn’t quite as bad as a typical day in the Dáil chamber there were certainly more men than women in the audience.

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There were also a large number of people over-50s and under-25s, but no real contingent of the so-called ‘squeezed middle’ – people in their 30s and 40s who are said to be weighed down with troubled mortgages and lots of debt.

3. The RA’s abortion stance was a big attraction for many in the audience:

The two largest rounds of applause today were for when the issue of abortion was raised.

In the morning, a gentleman in the audience pointed out that the RA’s entire existence is solely because of Fine Gael’s u-turn on abortion. Then as the day drew to a close and Creighton addressed the issue there was a huge round of applause:

There was a significant number of prominent pro-life activists in the audience and the only other Oireachtas members we spotted today were Senator Ronan Mullen and TD Mattie McGrath, both strongly anti-abortion.

But David McWilliams made light of the whole issue, joking at the end: “I think I must be the only pro-choice liberal in the place.”

Afterwards, Creighton said she is “not concerned about it” and hit out at specifically the Irish Times, saying: “I think it’s concerned that perhaps that we mightn’t fit into their [Irish Times] agenda, that’s certainly how I would interpret a lot of the coverage of it in the last couple of weeks, but that’s fine.”

4. But people were there for lots of different reasons:

Political-junkies, Fine Gael members (disgruntled and non-disgruntled), ex-Fianna Fáil members, pro-life activists and many more turned-out today. As we found out earlier, they were there for many different reasons, ranging from a strong desire to a passing interest in some sort of political and societal reform.

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5. We heard a lot of old ideas, but some new ones too…

All three sessions – political reform, health and economy – heard the usual complaints with the usual apparently common-sense solutions.

For example, the morning’s political reform session heard old ideas about appointing non-politicans as minsters, term limits for TDs and abolishing multi-seat constituencies in favour of single seats so politicians can focus on national issues.

But there were plenty of interesting and practical ideas too with the most popular policy idea from Blackrock clinic co-founder Dr Jimmy Sheehan. He proposed locating the National Children’s Hospital in Blanchardstown and criticised the government’s plan to locate it at St James’s Hospital as “the worst possible site in the country”. He got a standing ovation.

During the session on the economy, there was a strong focus on small business and creating a “regulation free zone” for SMEs. That’s an area Creighton highlighted afterwards: “We will be launching a campaign focusing on encouraging people to support local business and that’s something that we’ll be rolling out in the weeks ahead.”

5. … but nobody was talking about pylons:

An event such as this might have been a lightning rod for anti-pylon campaigners, but the issue wasn’t discussed, nor raised. That’s perhaps not surprising given the location of the event.

But those that came up from the countryside felt it should have been raised. When Tom McGurk said pylon talk should be avoided at the event, one audience in our earshot remarked: “It’s exactly what we should be talking about.”

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6. The contrarians and malcontents were few and far between

Audience members’ participation was limited to two minutes per person, ensuring an orderly and constructive input from the floor and no rambling speeches that have no point, and no end.

There was the odd silly comment, for example a gentlemen remarked that women do not have the “attributes” to put themselves forward in politics, but he was quickly smacked down by a woman who followed him. She described it as “the worst comment I’ve ever heard”.

7. The conference was the talk of Twitter… and TDs:

The day’s audience contribution didn’t get off to the best start when broadcaster Marc Coleman, in praise of Olivia O’Leary, remarked: “Even if you’re old, you’re still hot.”

That didn’t go down well on Twitter, which was abuzz for much of the day with tweets from the event and those following it on their mobile devices. Even government TDs took time to address the conference:

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We also heard from one unimpressed minister – who was clearly keeping a close eye on our tweets. Or maybe they had spies in the audience.

8. Not everyone thought there should be a new party…

While the RA themselves remain open if not committed to forming a political party the audience sentiment ranged from a strong desire to have one to, as one audience member remarked, needing “a new party like a hole in the head’.

9. … but ‘the pro’ thinks the beginning of a party looks like this:

While many of the contributors were Irish-based the conference heard an interesting outside perspective from former David Cameron policy advisor, Phillip Blond, who later told TheJournal.ie: ‘This is what the start of a political party looks like.”

Blond wasn’t being paid for his appearance and seemed genuinely interested and energised by what he was seeing in the RDS. His advice to the Reform Alliance? Start a political party and do it in the next nine months. “Go for it and win,” he said adding that that was his “professional opinion”.

He said he’d be happy to keep on advising the RA about how to break the “oligarchy” of the State’s two main parties. If they are to form a party then they may well seek out his views. Afterwards, Creighton described Blond as “a very good political analyst and advisor”.

But will she and the rest of the RA be taking his advice?

Pics: Twitter and Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

First posted at 5.41pm

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    Mute Carmel O'Shea
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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:08 AM

    No effect on me. Some of the patterns look pretty, like the snail shell.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 12:29 PM

    Which hole does it scutter out of.lol

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:51 AM

    Its not the holes in the Lotus fruit that gives me the willies. It is those eyes peeking out of them.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 11:33 AM

    U was wondering myself whether being put off by the eyes made me an *insert word here*

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:13 AM

    All this time I thought I was a freak. Please can someone tell me if there’s a cure? I could only look at the first one and now my day is ruined. I can’t actually believe there’s a name for it!

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:13 AM

    Evolution has passed me by, I’d happily pick any of them up.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:55 AM

    Au contraire, young Jim. Evolution has hit the pause button for the 16%, not you!

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    Sep 16th 2013, 11:20 AM

    Thanks Robin, just picked up this puffer fish.
    It’s not good.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:07 AM

    I like looking at the above images. Love the frogs…

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:12 AM

    That lotus pod thing totally gives me the willies!!!! :-0

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:22 AM

    The lotus pod looks like a larvae pod. Thanks to my dad keeping maggots in the fridge when I was a kid the picture has no affect on me.

    I find looking at the honey comb gives me a sense of tranquility.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 11:07 AM

    Where did you keep your food? Were they live?

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    Sep 14th 2013, 3:03 PM

    They were kept in a container in the fridge along side our food. He used them for fishing.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:14 AM

    I think most of them are beautiful

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:06 AM

    Try them with a Sinn Fein/ULA budget proposal…

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:17 AM

    Hahaha…that’s brilliant that is! Really brilliant….More!More!More!

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:18 AM

    Thanks

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:19 AM

    Oh for f**k sake.

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    Sep 15th 2013, 9:39 AM

    Yes terrifying if you are on a large wage & avoiding Tax by the FF,FG & LAB schemes designed to benefit the elite!
    For what died the sons of Roisin,
    Was it greed!

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:43 AM

    I’ve had this for years and never knew why it freaked me out. The lotus thing makes me feel terror and disgust and physically ill!
    Not sure I agree with the study findings though as none of those poisonous animals freak me out.
    To fellow sufferers: now that you know the name don’t google it. The images that come up will disturb you for weeks! I made that mistake about a year ago!
    *shudders*

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    Sep 14th 2013, 11:37 AM

    Aw man!!! I wasn’t freaked out by the holes so figured I was safe enough to do exactly what you said not to do….. Now I’m resolved to staying in bed under my covers forever.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:30 AM

    The lotus fruit image freaked me out a bit it looks like eyes staring out of the holes

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:16 AM

    First picture really gets to me!

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:39 AM

    Call me nerd, but i think this really interesting stuff! I never thought that the patterns would be just as important as the crazy colours for warning off predators. I don’t think I have a phobia but there is definitely some faint weirdness going on!

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:31 AM

    Most of them are quite pretty! But the first one looks like loads of eyeballs! Yuck!

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:15 AM

    Trippppy!!!

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    Sep 14th 2013, 12:42 PM

    You’ve just ruined my day :( vomit

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:48 AM

    In other news 85.87% of statistics are made up.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:53 AM

    I remember reading the Ryanair flight magazine last year and there was an article in which the writer described that he had eaten so much Hawaiian pizza that he felt like pineapple was squeezing from his pores. That image still turns my stomach and turned me completely off my favourite pizza. I’ve never read his articles again when flying.

    Apologies if I’ve turned anyone else’s stomach, blame Ryanair. Eugh I’m getting shivers thinking about it.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:50 AM

    They’re all so colourful and pretty

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    Sep 14th 2013, 12:17 PM

    It ain’t the honeycomb that freaks me out but being that close to potentially hundreds of bees would make me kak the pants…

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    Sep 14th 2013, 2:11 PM

    absolutely disgusting images. you can add the inside of a pepper to that. pure revulsion

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:55 AM

    That blob thing that was named the ugliest creature really did turn my stomach. I’m sure he’s a lovely fella once you get to know him

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:50 AM

    The first two images made me gag, the second image in particular.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 11:24 AM

    I don’t have a phobia but I actually feel a bit sick now after looking at a couple of those. How bizarre. I’d never heard of it before

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    Sep 14th 2013, 3:20 PM

    The spots on a banana or on a pancake make me feel funny.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 11:53 AM

    I thought they were pretty some even beautiful . Wonder how the feck my ancestors survived at all if we don’t possess this genetic fear of poisonous animal and plant life. Can just Imagine it now. Sp pretty must taste ………

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    Sep 16th 2013, 2:47 PM

    First one freaks me out

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    Sep 14th 2013, 5:40 PM

    The blue frog looks extremely unpredictable. Wouldnt trust him.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:58 AM

    Yuck

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    Sep 14th 2013, 1:28 PM

    U know what makes me ill…the inside of yellow melons!!! The pips/seeds and slime turn my stomach something shockin!!!!

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    Sep 17th 2013, 6:03 PM

    It’s more disgusting when it’s photoshopped like this: http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/239/a/e/trypophobia_by_otettttt-d5clgnk.jpg
    *barf*

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    Sep 14th 2013, 1:28 PM

    Unfortunately, the first picture reminds me of the “shower heads” in the Auschwitz gas chambers.
    Apart from that awful association, I find the pictures interesting.

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    Sep 14th 2013, 10:47 PM

    Ya im not a fan of small holes myself:/

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