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THE GREEN PARTY is holding a national conference next weekend, as the party continues to gear up for local and European elections.
Over 200 attendees are expected to attend the event at the Hilton Hotel in Dublin.
A range of topics will be up for discussion, with the main event next Friday evening being a public debate under the heading of “Dublin vs. The Rest. How do we plan for balanced recovery across the country?”, chaired by Irish Times journalist Frank McDonald.
A Women For Election workshop with Niamh Gallagher is also on the schedule.
Keynote speech
The following Saturday will be split into sessions on topics such as local economy and new candidates, with party leader Eamon Ryan making his keynote speech at 5.30pm.
A leaflet drop is planned for Sunday morning.
The party recently announced its intention to run candidates in local and European elections after the party was wiped out in the 2011 General Election.
In an interview with TheJournal.ie, Ryan said he has been “in a rebuilding exercise ever since”.
“It’s not unusual, a lot of our green colleagues when they went into government have lost their seats,” he pointed out, referencing the Belgian, Swedish and Czech greens who all has similar experiences.
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Oh no! Not them again. Go away
They haven’t give away you know.
They got a secret undocumented deal to protect their on the run members.
They can’t be prosecuted for their actions.
Well if the shinners can do it……
As welcome as Lucinda Creighton
Almost every person who lives outside of Dublin will have the lives blighted if the green power scams go ahead. If even one of these greens gets a foot inside the door of a hung Dail they could milk the system for what its worth. Keep that in mind if you live in a rural constituency.
Can you explain what you mean?
They should probably amalgamate with what will be left of The Stickie Labour Party after the Locals & Europeans and how about Lucinda Creightons Group joining up – Then they might have 250 in the room by then ?
Here we see the founder of Greenpeace expose the reality behind the comments below from ecoloons.
Statement of Patrick Moore, Ph.D. Before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, Subcommittee on Oversight
February 25, 2014
“Natural Resource Adaptation: Protecting ecosystems and economies”
Chairman Whitehouse, Ranking Member Inhofe, and members of the Committee. Thank you for the opportunity to testify at today’s hearing.
In 1971, as a PhD student in ecology I joined an activist group in a church basement in Vancouver Canada and sailed on a small boat across the Pacific to protest US Hydrogen bomb testing in Alaska. We became Greenpeace.
After 15 years in the top committee I had to leave as Greenpeace took a sharp turn to the political left, and began to adopt policies that I could not accept from my scientific perspective. Climate change was not an issue when I abandoned Greenpeace, but it certainly is now.
There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years. If there were such a proof it would be written down for all to see. No actual proof, as it is understood in science, exists.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) states: “It is extremely likelythat human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.” (My emphasis)
“Extremely likely” is not a scientific term but rather a judgment, as in a court of law. The IPCC defines “extremely likely” as a “95-100% probability”. But upon further examination it is clear that these numbers are not the result of any mathematical calculation or statistical analysis. They have been “invented” as a construct within the IPCC report to express “expert judgment”, as determined by the IPCC contributors.
These judgments are based, almost entirely, on the results of sophisticated computer models designed to predict the future of global climate. As noted by many observers, including Dr. Freeman Dyson of the Princeton Institute for Advanced Studies, a computer model is not a crystal ball. We may think it sophisticated, but we cannot predict the future with a computer model any more than we can make predictions with crystal balls, throwing bones, or by appealing to the Gods.
Perhaps the simplest way to expose the fallacy of “extreme certainty” is to look at the historical record. With the historical record, we do have some degree of certainty compared to predictions of the future. When modern life evolved over 500 million years ago, CO2 was more than 10 times higher than today, yet life flourished at this time. Then an Ice Age occurred 450 million years ago when CO2 was 10 times higher than today. There is some correlation, but little evidence, to support a direct causal relationship between CO2 and global temperature through the millennia. The fact that we had both higher temperatures and an ice age at a time when CO2 emissions were 10 times higher than they are today fundamentally contradicts the certainty that human-caused CO2 emissions are the main cause of global warming.
Today we remain locked in what is essentially still the Pleistocene Ice Age, with an average global temperature of 14.5°C. This compares with a low of about 12°C during the periods of maximum glaciation in this Ice Age to an average of 22°C during the Greenhouse Ages, which occurred over longer time periods prior to the most recent Ice Age. During the Greenhouse Ages, there was no ice on either pole and all the land was tropical and sub-tropical, from pole to pole. As recently as 5 million years ago the Canadian Arctic islands were completely forested. Today, we live in an unusually cold period in the history of life on earth and there is no reason to believe that a warmer climate would be anything but beneficial for humans and the majority of other species. There is ample reason to believe that a sharp cooling of the climate would bring disastrous results for human civilization.
Moving closer to the present day, it is instructive to study the record of average global temperature during the past 130 years. The IPCC states that humans are the dominant cause of warming “since the mid-20th century”, which is 1950. From 1910 to 1940 there was an increase in global average temperature of 0.5°C over that 30-year period. Then there was a 30-year “pause” until 1970. This was followed by an increase of 0.57°C during the 30-year period from 1970 to 2000. Since then there has been no increase, perhaps a slight decrease, in average global temperature. This in itself tends to negate the validity of the computer models, as CO2 emissions have continued to accelerate during this time.
The increase in temperature between 1910-1940 was virtually identical to the increase between 1970-2000. Yet the IPCC does not attribute the increase from 1910- 1940 to “human influence.” They are clear in their belief that human emissions impact only the increase “since the mid-20th century”. Why does the IPCC believe that a virtually identical increase in temperature after 1950 is caused mainly by “human influence”, when it has no explanation for the nearly identical increase from 1910- 1940?
It is important to recognize, in the face of dire predictions about a 2°C rise in global average temperature, that humans are a tropical species. We evolved at the equator in a climate where freezing weather did not exist. The only reasons we can survive these cold climates are fire, clothing, and housing. It could be said that frost and ice are the enemies of life, except for those relatively few species that have evolved to adapt to freezing temperatures during this Pleistocene Ice Age. It is “extremely likely” that a warmer temperature than today’s would be far better than a cooler one.
I realize that my comments are contrary to much of the speculation about our climate that is bandied about today. However, I am confident that history will bear me out, both in terms of the futility of relying on computer models to predict the future, and the fact that warmer temperatures are better than colder temperatures for most species.
If we wish to preserve natural biodiversity, wildlife, and human well being, we should simultaneously plan for both warming and cooling, recognizing that cooling would be the most damaging of the two trends. We do not know whether the present pause in temperature will remain for some time, or whether it will go up or down at some time in the near future. What we do know with “extreme certainty” is that the climate is always changing, between pauses, and that we are not capable, with our limited knowledge, of predicting which way it will go next.
Thank you for the opportunity to present my views on this important subject.
@ ipsum oleum:
And what exactly has that speech before the US Senate got to do with the Irish Green Party and the situation in Ireland in general?
who did you vote for susanna… some amazing political party who has fixed everything?
Top on the agenda – an endangered snail…
Or perhaps the global warming that all the experts tell us will very likely lead to a mass extinction on the planet within the next century if we don’t tackle it… little ‘minority’ issues like that!!!
Well to all the red-thumbers, what I am asserting is absolutely backed by the whole scientific community the world over, and increasingly every major organisation from all sectors of society the world over – hell, even the Pentagon! – so perhaps you should think again?
Thought they would hold it in a hand made hemp tent in the Phoenix Park & bottle all the gas from the verbal shit! …..Not the Hilton Hotel! I did not see that coming!
Will Kim Jung Un be there to advise on an energy policy?
200 attendees my arse… The rent a crowd people will be queuing up outside the Hilton… €50 a day is the offer… Roll up roll up, watch the monkey climb the tree
Go away.
Next the PDs will be back.
Its a pity that there’s no phone boxes anymore… They could used one of them instead of booking a room
The tent would flatten the grass
You can thank them for the so called carbon tax and the raft of other taxes that emerged under that gobs—-te gormless by the way were is he now,remember he could not get out of bed the morning of the Bank Guarantee,as one would,we were not paying him enough to get out of bed,the greens were as responsible as FF and the Pds for our situation,
That’s just daft
You can thank them for the Warmer Homes free home insulation scheme for low income home-owners. You can thank their councillors up and down the land for consistently voting against re-zoning and the kind of developments that got us in this mess in the first place. You can thank them for campaigning for an end to political donations and more transparency in politics. You can acknowledge that beyond a shadow of a doubt experts the world over are all telling us that if we don’t tackle pollution and climate change it is likely curtains for humans on this planet within the next century. Or you can just focus on the fact that the Greens as a small party with little influence were involved in the government that gave our money to the bondholders. However, you must then also criticise FG for not doing what they said and insisting on burden-sharing. All of them were responsible.
Fair play, good for democracy to have many voices
Good to see them back. These guys have morals and ethics.
Indeed, in my own area the GP councillors were the ONLY ONES who consistently voted against re-zoning, inappropriate development and generally greed at a local level. The same was true up and down the country. The party are generally pro transparency in government and wanted to ban political donations to parties and TDs. All of their policies and major decisions are taken democratically by their membership. They may also be the only party that can look at the global picture and embrace the inevitability that we must turn to sustainable energy in order to be a successful modern country, be properly prepared to mitigate the effects of climate change on Ireland, and play our part in trying to save this planet for our children…
Keep wondering why posters here continue with negative comments if they believe The Greens are irrelevant, too small, ineffectual? A bit of a waste of their time I would have thought. And ours….
Exactly
Dan your track record in government speaks for itself!
Please go away you had your chance and you blew it!
Dan the biggest thing to come from the Greens were the pensions they got yourselves.
Well we’re not going to go away Niall. Not sure why it would bother whether we are here or not? We’ll keep putting forward an alternative, we have some support for that we’ll seek to build on that. You’re free to ignore whatever we do.
You had your chance Dan, you made a balls of it. People who are struggling to make ends meet don’t want to hear about banning patio heaters and more carbon taxes.
Seeing as that’s not what we’re saying you’re under no obligation to listen.
“It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class…involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, ownership of motor vehicles, golf courses, small electric appliances, home and work place air-conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable…A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmentally damaging consumption patterns.”
Maurice Strong, one of the godfathers of this repressive green movement
BTW we are all fortunate enough to have the items mentioned by Strong 30 or so back, the greens want to turn the clock back.
Dont forget the Greens are strongly anti-rural. According to them all culchies should be moved into high rise apartments because running a bit of wire and a plastic hose to their country dwelling costs too much resources.
They are the ‘go to party’ for culchie-hating dubs
Dan have you opened you eyes and ears to the people crying around you after your time in Government I think you have a bloody cheek all I can say do not come to my door.
Tell me where your door is Alan and I won’t waste either of our time. Those with a sense of perspective and proportion are those I want to appeal to.
That’s right. We were the party that closed the railway stations and the Garda stations and the schools and the post offices weren’t we? Farm incomes hit a peak when we were in government. Imagine if we were pro rural.
I will say at the outset that I am not a member of the Green Party but to blame them for the state we are in is ridiculous. People need to open their eyes. The absolute fact (unless you are anti-science and logic to an extreme degree) is that we are majorly up sh1t creek without a paddle on this planet. By all of the scientific evidence if we don’t act urgently to cut carbon we will be condemning ourselves to a 4-6 degree rise in temperature on this planet – and this will be utterly catastrophic and likely mean an end to most life on earth.
It is incredible how we refuse to see the wood for the trees. The current recession is a walk in the park compared to the massive costs of dealing with climate change in coming decades – and then there is the future of our children and their children on this planet.
If you are not aware that it is really that serious, then educate yourself.
Dan take a look at the last election results are you so bloody naive that any reasonable voter would ever again put a mark on a ballot paper for the Greens you Lot were part of a government which sank this country and now you have a bloody cheek to test the waters and see have the voters forgotten the Greens I can make it easy for you they haven’t and never bloody will.
Alan votes go in cycles look at FG in 2002, FF at the last election. I believe we have something to contribute and there are people who are willing to support us in that. You don’t have to accept that. That’s democracy and it certainly isn’t something to be angry about.
Dan, regarding FF you are talking as if you were not part of that Government yes the Greens were part of FF and yes are equally share the blame I hope you lot will never again will get a chance to go into Government. Ps In that year when the Greens were in Government I voted for you lot I was very impressed with what the greens had to say about change how wrong was I.
Dan if you knock on my door you will leave with your underpants over your shoulders.
Who are increasing in support over the last election. We were not equally responsible. most of the damage was caused by policies over the previous ten years, policies many people were happy to vote for. I’m sorry you’ve been disappointed. For us the difficulty has been dealing with expectations that didn’t take into account the circumstances that existed and what the time span allowed,
One final comment Dan when the Government was on its last legs it was clear to everyone that the coalition was doomed to the rubbish bin the Greens stayed on and for me this suggested that you lot were in denial of the problems with FF I wish you well but I will never vote for the Greens again.
And NOT actually a member of the Irish Green Party, so your point is what exactly?
Some Green campaigners argue that the earth can provide plenty for all, plenty of renewable resources to use and there is no need to ‘reduce’ lifestyles. Some argue that we have to reduce consumption before we eat (and burn) ourselves out of house and home (and that lifestyles will be improved rather than harmed). Some would say that it is a bit of both. One thing is clear – we cannot go on as we are for many more generations, the floods are a pretty clear message. At least we are having a debate.
Dan do you still not know its all your fault what FF did and didn’t do for 14 yrs…. FF voters are busy onhere today
Hey, 200 can’t do too much damage hopefully. We’d want to keep an eye on them all the same!
Usually political leaflet drops go straight into the recycling bin, in this case I’ll use the fire just to annoy them.
And pollute the air for your neighbours’ children?
Go Greens. Be the change.
Wonder if that lovely singer from Cork Dan boyle will open the ceremony with his rendition of where do we go from here….
The Greens seem to think that the planet is worth saving. Why all the vitriol? Are ye sick of having a planet to moan in? Go Greens, we need your voice more than ever
They didnt do much to save the planet the last day they were in
If they want to save the planet, might I suggest they start with China!
Well you can now have your home insulated for free via Warmer Homes if you are on a low income, or get a grant for the work if you are earning. They tried to get as much passed as they could.
Well Martina, Chinese people have much much lower per capita emissions than Irish people and China do have a lot of renewable energy. Since we are all on the Titanic heading for an iceberg and our children’s future is at stake, would you not think it would be the decent thing for us ALL to be responsible and, um, well do our bit to work towards preserving the conditions on earth that allow life to survive???
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/global-warming-will-cost/1015390.html
At a time of rising population, climate change will greatly reduce our crop production year on year… and if we reach tipping points then the whole shebang could go up in smoke…
A lot of global businesses are also waking up and smelling the coffee and changing to renewables at this stage to get ahead of the game and make a contribution…
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/03/01/3348831/apple-climate-deniers/#
Germany’s WirtschaftsWoche here (Business Week) reports on German steel and engineering giant ThyssenKrupp’s reaction to rising renewable energy costs, warning that “unless the correct decisions are made concerning renewable electricity, Germany as a location for steel production is in jeopardy.”
ThyssenKrupp is struggling to keep its steel-making operations alive in Germany in the face of skyrocketing energy costs owing to renewable energies, and joins the list of endangered German industries in the famous Ruhr Region, home to heavy industries such as steel and coal-fired power production. The statement by ThysssenKrupp aims “to increase the pressure on the German government,” WirtschaftsWoche writes.
An independent committee of expert advisors to the German government is recommending in a report that the country’s once highly ballyhooed EEG renewable energy feed-in act be scrapped altogether because it is 1) “not doing anything for the climate”, 2) “not promoting innovation” and 3) driving up the cost of energy.
Rising energy costs are becoming a problem for more and more citizens in Germany. Just from 2008 to 20111 the share of energy-poor households in the Federal Republic jumped from 13.8 to 17 percent.”
Yes, green policies sure are wonderful.
WHO?
The world health organisation is joining the greens ?
Where did they surface from thought were extent
Not in a phone booth or a Yurt; (though personally I think a yurt would be nice), but they are all booked out for the Viking enactment in saint Anne’s park!!
It’s in an ordinary boring hotel ( but with all the comforts, style etc), but the speeches and workshops will be exciting and lively as usual.. Comments are right on one thing though, it is free and attendees can just make a voluntary donation; which is good considering we take no corporate donations and have no government funding. There is the link if you want to know more. https://www.facebook.com/events/1529265023966331/?ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming
Will ‘sustainable development’ be on the agenda?
I quite like yurts, but I can never stomach more than one at a time.
Best of luck to you all Donna – while the other parties are squabbling over petty short-term stuff, I hope you will be looking to the inevitability of a sustainable future for Ireland to be able to thrive – anybody not doing that is King Canute re-arranging the deck-chairs on the Titanic. It is sad how some prefer the penny in their pocket today to doing the right thing for our children’s future, or think that our horribly polluting lifestyle is OK.
We should at least be discussing sustainable development. The current system, in place on a planet of finite resources, is anything but sustainable, despite what petroleum fetishists or conservative (read: corporate) think tanks might claim.
Powerabby,
They got their chance to change they walked away with big fat pensions like their buddies FF left the poor in this to pick up their tab I am surprised you are not suggesting a name change for the Greens so to take the embarrassment sting out.
Recycle – reuse – reduce ..lol lol lol lol and the fourth R was rid ..lol lol
OGGIE this is my second time to lol you. Keep it up you certainly put the laugh factor back on the Journal.
There having the meeting in an igloo on the sahara desert
Some very silly posters here this morning.
Do people not understand that every junior government partner in every democracy ever has to go with the flow and compromise on a lot of things in order to push some of their own policies through?
I suppose it’s easier to blame the PDs, the Greens and now Labour for the failings of FF & FG.
I hope are all looking forward to a FF & SF coalition. That’s what we are going to get due to lazy thinking and short memories.
The green scam is finished as folks resent having a North Korean lifestyle imposed on them.
The green scam? You mean the certain fact that we are destroying the conditions for life to thrive on this planet (with no spare planet on the horizon) by our pollution and climate change??? The evidence is inconclusive and growing all the time that this is what we are doing. Thousands of experts the world over and all of the world’s reputable national and international scientific institutions are saying we have only a few decades to act to avoid absolute catastrophe, and you call this the green scam???
On the other hand we have your side – the well funded campaign of disinformation from the fossil fuel industry who deliberately and cynically set about to cast doubt on the robust science and smear climate scientists for their own financial ends – about a billion dollars to date???
The phrase ‘re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic’ comes to mind. And if people are going to choose to disbelieve this huge and important fact, then at least educate yourselves, from reputable sources, and when you do you will be horrified and probably likely even to give up the power shower and patio heater for the sake of your children and future generations…
When somebody says to you that “97% of scientists agree”, does this not make you just a little bit slightly suspicious?
No, it doesn’t.
I’d like the Greens to have more influence on the direction of this country. But I think they need to be very clear – much clearer than they are at the moment – about energy policy, jobs, infrastructure and so on. The problem with taking ecological issues into account in the political arena is that you are always balancing sets of conflicting interests, more so than you are if you see ‘the environment’ as a backdrop, so you’re much more prone to being accused of hypocrisy. The Green movement needs to establish itself as practical and pragmatic for rural and urban dwellers. People are prepared to stereotype the Green movement but any movement that draws attention to issues like the entanglement of oil and state, the problems with ‘business as usual’ models, and the transition to a system that can maintain both people, at a reasonable level, and the health of ecological systems on which we depend, is vital to our survival. We really do have big ecological system problems on our hands. There are very good models out there of countries (Bhutan for instance) who record people’s well-being as a factor in assessing how successful the society is. This would be a good model for Ireland. Scotland (I’m no Salmond fan, by the way, but I’m a Scot, married to an Irishman and resident here) has put forward a comprehensive energy and jobs strategy in the event of independence that has been verified by academics. Irish Greens should be in Scotland or at least talking to Scots about that package and what parallel case could be put together for Ireland. China? Of course what happens globally is going to have more impact – but there are two (or three) strands to actions: one, what you do in your own life (often constrained by physical/financial/social/psychological factors); two, what happens nationally through policy creation and implementation (highly constrained by culture, economics, history, and so on) and three, what happens internationally (constrained through international relations and power struggles). Each feeds into the other. The Green movement is personal, local, national and international and potentially powerful because of that. Pity I have no money at all – I mean, if someone tried to scam me for 500 euro, they couldn’t because I don’t have it! – to come to the Hilton (yes, that grates) and contribute but that’s the way of the world. Good luck, Greens, but wake up to the way you’re doing things, not because of how it’s perceived (that’s immaterial) but because it expresses what you stand for.
Well said, I am not attending but I thought it was by donation?
Greens want something they call ‘sustainable development’ or what normal people would call rationing and a primitive lifestyle for the masses.
Surely you’re confusing “Sustainable Development” with “Program for Government”…
Well said Lucy.
I wish the Green’s had had more influence before 2007. They did warn on the unsustainable property boom and how poor planning policies were. Unfortunately cute hoorism dominated then and it continues to dominate today.
There is no charge to attend the GP conference, all are welcome for some or part of the proceedings (I have no idea where this 500 euro figure came from). The Hilton was chosen partly because of its luas access, and canal cycle lanes with bike parking available.
I appreciate your intelligent and thoughtful comments Lucy, you might be interested in hearing Frank McDonald on Saturday.
So their 200 voters will be there?
stupid comment
As ex Labour I am looking for an alternative party so will follow the Green party conference with interest. I may not be the only one.
Good to see. Ireland needs a party that focused on fixing Europe, climate change and proper communities, and none of the other parties are filling that space.
I know Andrew, the denial about the huge crisis facing humanity at this point in time is unbelievable!
Ha, Hilarious, i wouldn’t vote Green if my life depended on it, their solution to everything is “Put a tax on it”. Also they propped up FF while the country was being run over the cliff just to keep their positions in government and their fat pensions, go away Ryan, your not fooling me again
Do they mean in the telephone box outside the Hilton? Should be enuff room for tem all the muppets
crap joke you idiot.
I heard its in the back of a transit van ?. Any truth in that
The Green Party what a waste of space !! Lying no good tree huggers who destroyed the pub business the car business in this courty ! If ireland stopped using fossil fuels tomorrow it wouldn’t even put a blip on the environment ! Focus should be on Japan America Russia Australia all the huge countries where it would might make a difference just might !
Well our carbon emissions per capita are among the highest in the world. If we are, as it seems the experts tell us, on the Titanic heading for an iceberg, why would we want to be the ones to say well I’m not doing anything until you do… especially when the results will be that we are all going to sink and die!!!
The fact is that all countries ARE playing their part as much as we are… We are all in this together and we all have to push our politicians to act. Do people realise that with business as usual the world will be committed to 4-5 degrees rise by the end of the century, which there is no doubt whatsoever will lead to a mass extinction event on this planet?
Does anybody care? Is this a situation in which we squabble about who is doing what?
Ha, they destroyed the pub and car industries, did they? That’s some impressive histrionics. You should consider running yourself, you have the right characteristics to be a politician in Ireland.
Greenpeace founder spills the beans in 3 mins 16 seconds .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWVOsA3PDB8
Pure an utter bull !!
The only thing green about the Green Party is there big fat pensions they should never have gotten
But isn’t that the same with all politicians?
Climate has always changed, only ecoloons have a religious belief that they can influence it.
The what party? lol
The leaders of the ‘green’ movement have been indoctrinating their followers into accepting state control over family allegiance; abolition of private property with citizens crammed into “stack and pack”, hi-rise apartment buildings, close to railroad tracks while cars will not be allowed.
Santa Cruz has already been granted 300 million federal dollars to build these apartment buildings. In exchange for their willingness to participate in these sustainable acts, they are given immunity to construction-defect liability.
In Washington, one of these hi-risers is a nine story building with no elevators, where tenants share a bath and kitchen with seven other tenants.
“where tenants share a bath and kitchen with seven other tenants” Just as in the tenements we fought so hard to destroy.
I’m really curious about you, the Green Party at local level brought in better building standards and protection for tennants who other parties had ignored. I think that some so-called ‘Green’ initiatives like carbon trading have been mis-guided or damaging but we (or at least some of us) are trying to come up with new and less short-sighted ways of doing things, taking into account the scientific knowledge we now have – and projections into the future, uncertain as they are. Even if every scientist was wrong about global warming I would still be a member of the Green Party because they are the only political party in the country not to accept corporate donations – and if that keeps it small, that is a price I’m willing to pay.
“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years. If there were such a proof it would be written down for all to see. No actual proof, as it is understood in science, exists”
Dr Moore, ex Greenpeace
The Green Party’s Green New Deal eco for the economy is a winner.
Green Party Solar Jobs. Wind Jobs. Conservation Jobs. Geothermal Jobs. Weatherization jobs! Green Party winners!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrGgeWQJg20&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJAvfgs4nK3Viu5HXZxv_bw
Oh Joy!!
Who cares, here we go again.
What toilet are the holding it in
crap joke… try better
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