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Lawyers warn TDs: Don't ask Angela Kerins about her salary, ok?

TDs aren’t happy about the warning.

BELEAGUERED REHAB GROUP boss Angela Kerins will appear before an Oireachtas committee today to answer questions – but already lawyers have warned TDs and Senators not to ask about her salary.

The Public Accounts Committee, which examines accountability in public spending, received a letter from solicitors acting for the Rehab Group yesterday saying that members cannot ask Kerins about her salary.

It was revealed earlier this month that Kerins is paid €240,000 a year, as well as benefits including a company car.

TDs and Senators have expressed their unhappiness with the legal letter – and have already indicated that questions about her salary will indeed be raised today, as it falls under the committee’s remit.

Independent TD Shane Ross described the letter as “Two fingers to the Dáil”, while committee chairman John McGuinness of Fianna Fáil said as Rehab receives €82 million of public money, it has to be asked how the money is being spent .

“We’ve been reminded by their [Rehab's] solicitors that the remit of the committee is taxpayers’ money,” McGuinness told RTE Radio One’s Morning Ireland programme this morning. “We accept that. We didn’t need a solicitor’s letter from them to tell us that. We understand it fully”.

“And within that, we have to explore how much money is being spent [and] how much money is being spent on salaries”.

McGuinness said that Rehab’s lawyers argue that the salary of the CEO is paid from the private income of the bigger company and has nothing to do with the public money that the group receives.

He said that the issue for the Public Accounts Committee  is what Kerins’s salary has been benchmarked against and the structure of the salaries to other higher executives at Rehab.

“Because if they’re spending €82 million of taxpayers’ money there has to be a balance between what they pay on one side and obtaining public monies on the other side,” McGuinness said.

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    Mute Weddingcar Ie Wexford Limo
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:11 AM

    And guess who will pay the solicitor !!

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    Mute Gowanoutathat
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:32 AM

    In a hole and digging deeper. She’s up to something and it ain’t good.
    Certainly doing more damage to her charity.
    My direct debit stops from March 1st.

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    Mute Filthpig
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:37 AM

    I hope Shane Ross gets stuck in, and tears this self-entitled behemoth to ribbons.

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:46 AM

    I have stopped giving to any and all these so called charities because of the likes of her. Deep down I know the people that need donations most suffer but until we have a transparent charity sector that’s my decision.
    These people are as bad as Fitzpatrick, Bertie, Cowan, Gilmore and co.
    Prison is too good for them.
    The people who need help most see these leaches cream €240k + a year off the top and god only knows what else they are milking the system for.

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    Mute Deirdre McDonnell
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:02 AM

    I’d say three or four senior council are advising her more like. She can well afford them!!

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    Mute ipsum oleum
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:22 AM

    Stop funding Rehab until she goes. Can Rehab demote or vote her out ?

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    Mute Paul Doyle
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    Feb 27th 2014, 1:13 PM

    Is my money that pays your wages and you WILL ANSWER the questions.

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    Mute johngahan
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:16 AM

    Simple rule: if you take any money from the tax payer on the basis of being a charity, your entire organisation is deemed to have to be transparent to the taxpayer.
    Otherwise you are free to divert costs to the charity and profits to the private enterprise and, to paraphrase Deputy Wallace ‘you are just playing games’.

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    Mute Frank Mc Carney
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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:09 AM

    If the politicians really wanted to sort out this sordid mess and clean up the charity industry then they would bring in legislation to protect the taxpayer, the donors and most of all the people who should have first call on funds – the users of the services they provide. Then the Garda and courts could deal with abuses and there would be no point in hiding behind barristers. In most of these cases PAC is a toothless poodle. We want white collar crime investigated in same way as rest of crime is and no cosy investigating bodies dealing with their wealthy friends.

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    Mute mcgoo
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:15 AM

    You are joking Angela. No, actually you are a joke Angela.

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    Mute John S
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:40 AM

    Well don’t ask me to support Rehab then! Sooner this money sucking organisation ran by a bunch of overpaid cretins goes to the wall the better.

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    Mute Martin Costello
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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:32 AM

    Well hopefully they don’t go to the wall considering the many thousands of people they provide services for but a change in management and greater transparency in how the funding is used is definitely needed

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    Mute Séamus Mc Allister
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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:53 AM

    Do you think only the top level of rehab are at it? The skimming that goes on must be unreal, I’d say.

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    Feb 27th 2014, 3:45 PM

    If she’s a joke, mcgoo, then she’s been laughing all the way to the bank, and sadly the joke has been on the taxpayer who funds the charity and the donors and fundraisers.
    Can’t believe that sharp practice with the coffins. At least somebody had a vestige of integrity left to vote her down over that.
    The likes of these people are sociopaths with no conscience and no moral compass.

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    Mute Gus Sheridan
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:13 AM

    Stupid solicitors drawing even more attention to this overpaid woman

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    Mute Betty Swolicks
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:15 AM

    Was charity money also used to pay for the lovely lady’s legal representation? Or did the legal fees come out of the pig trough?

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    Mute tony keely
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:19 AM

    Shane ross will put her through the mill,one of the very few who is worthy of the peoples choice, he will inform her it is working class peoples money and she will be accountable to them, ross may even mention their funding if not clear and concise of where its spent could be cut,wouldnt that be a productive result for all

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    Mute SinAssist
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:57 AM

    Is that Ross, the property bubble promoting hack or Ross, the champion of Seany Fitz as top Bankster Don!?!….or just Monty Burns???

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    Mute mcgoo
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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:08 AM

    John mcguinness is a good outfit too in fairness to him

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    Mute COOM
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:21 AM

    No more indirect charity donations for me going forward. The best form of charity is local charity.

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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:16 AM

    Lawyers giving warnings now? Ha! This doesn’t make you look any better, Angela. What is it about irish politicians and their gravy train buddies. When they get caught out for being sleeveens they never just come out and say, ya know what? I was wrong, you know it…I know it…I’m sorry. Nobody every says sorry anymore. Ronan Keating had a point.

    Best regards,
    Adebaaaaaayo

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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:21 AM

    Life IS a rollercoaster! I’m off to ride it…. all night long

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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:25 AM
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:33 AM

    I can’t unsee that. It’ll haunt my dreams. Why would you do that???

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    Mute CAPITAINE ADEBAYO
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:37 AM

    I crossed a line. Soz, Roxy.

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    Mute Frank Buffalo
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:38 AM

    Ah jaysus that is just wrong.

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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:38 AM

    Capt my eyes that’s cruel

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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:39 AM

    Sweet mother, why just why?

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    Mute Stephen
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:46 AM

    B@stard I just had to click on that link feeling sick.

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    Mute CAPITAINE ADEBAYO
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:50 AM

    If you people can’t appreciate Ronan Keatings chiselled body with a pint of the black stuff covering his modesty, then he was right…. Yizzer only begrudgers.

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    Mute Stephen
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:52 AM

    From what I heard half pint.

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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:00 AM

    Jayzuzz cap. Having my brekkie! :-)

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    Mute Chris Day
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:10 AM

    I’d love a Baby Guinness right now.

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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:14 AM

    There goes me breakfast!!

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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:34 AM

    :-(

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    Feb 27th 2014, 3:47 PM

    Yes, Cap’n. Sorry does seem to be the hardest word!

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    Feb 27th 2014, 3:49 PM

    Oh.my.God…

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    Mute Hector Mann
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:51 AM

    The Phoenix magazine have reported on Kerins for years.

    Maybe Angela Kerins should be asked about Complete Eco Solutions:

    “Goldhawk reported (see The Phoenix 25/3/11) how a 2009 Rehab business plan to sell coffins in Ireland involved the sourcing of Chinese coffins. However, it turned out that the importation of the coffins from China was effected by a separate company, Complete Eco Solutions (CES). The founding shareholders and directors in CES were Angela’s husband, Sean Kerins, her brother, Joseph Fitzpatrick and Frank Flannery, ex-Rehab chief executive.

    At the end of 2009, Rehab Recycle managers were told by HQ that an Irish importer had been established – CES – and that orders should be made through them. However, two Recycle managers refused to do so when they saw who the CES directors and shareholders were. Later, with much argument about CES being brought in to handle the importation of the coffins, a financial controller in Rehab Enterprises refused to sign a cheque to CES for €70,000 as a deposit on the initial coffins order.
    While Recycle personnel had quoted coffins at a price of €150 maximum, the Rehab Enterprises Coffin Business Plan, December 2009, stated, “The cost per unit is approx. €400 including shipping”.

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    Mute Mammy Maddness
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:57 AM

    That’s typical – pity it will not get brought up now, Phoenix should re-run the story

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    Mute Patricia Ann McCarthy Moore
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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:21 AM

    Another nail in the coffin.

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    Mute Steve Bang
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:23 AM

    Could they not get the Revenue lads to do an audit and accidentally publish it.

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    Mute Shakka1244
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:16 AM

    They can spin that its private funds that pay her ridiculous salary but Rehab would not exist without taxpayer money.

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    Mute Steve Bang
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:10 AM

    She should spend some of her salary getting her roots done #bitchy

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    Mute Frank Buffalo
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:22 AM

    ….and on a personal trainer…

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    Mute Kevin Carroll
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:47 AM

    Why is it always necessary to attack a woman’s appearance? Surely the stupid salary and apparent legal shite is enough.

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    Mute Vincent F
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:54 AM

    Because people are disgusted and annoyed and are venting some anger. If see looked like a tanned model people who say she’s spending the money on vanities to look that way.
    This letter is just like 2 fingers to us all!

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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:15 AM

    Reilly and Wallace get attacked for their appearances all the time. It’s nothing to do with her being a woman. It’s to do with her being another greedy snout in the public trough.

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    Mute Frank Buffalo
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    Feb 27th 2014, 3:26 PM

    Welcome to the internet my friend.

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    Mute Shane Hickey
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:30 AM

    God this woman has some balls. Rehab should go to the wall for this and that’s a shame for the people on the ground floor who work so hard because they believe in the cause. Not pigs like Angela who is feeding at the trough and threatening legal action to all and sundry.

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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:23 AM

    The committee must ask Angela to describe how the charity is separated from the private enterprise and wheher any work carried out by special needs staff is for the direct or indirect benefit of the private enterprise and what do those staff get paid.

    Are they being exploited in contributing to the private enterprise profits?

    Could the private enterprise survive if the charity was shut down and the taxpayer ceased to pay €82 million a year to support it?

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    Mute Lm group
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:41 AM

    Stop the funding today, end of story

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    Mute Dermot O'Reilly
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:45 AM

    The Lawyer who advised Angela not to disclose her salary should be brought before the Oireachtas Committee and reprimanded!

    What arrogance!

    This women is paid far too much for running registered charity as a part-time job!

    All charities should be forced by Law to register salaries paid to all employees!

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    Mute Helen Kenny
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:37 AM

    So she says paid by private enterprise money !!!! So if they have so much private money that they can pay fat cat 250k plus car plus pension plus gods knows what else ,while the guys and gals working for pitience in so call work shops 40hrs a week why do they need tax payers money ….sounds to me like theg are doing better then Tesco ..

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    Mute Dermot O'Reilly
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:46 AM

    So is is only a part-time employee on €250,000 PA!

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    Mute Dermot O Dwyer
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:31 AM

    Is Angela Kerins entitled to Diplomatic imunity????.

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    Mute James O Donoghue
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:29 AM

    Simple just don’t donate to crc or rehab till they have houses in order

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    Mute Robert Zombies
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:33 AM

    This woman doesn’t understand the altruistic meaning of a charity.

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    Mute Michael Garett
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:17 AM

    I stopped reading at beleaguered. Angela Kerins is anything but beleaguered believe you me. Another overpaid smug self righteous thief.

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    Mute Begrudgy
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:29 AM

    Enough material here for a new Irish comedy series.

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    Mute Ben Frank
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:44 AM

    Evil bitch

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:39 AM

    Just cut the tax payers money until they come clean and transparent.
    With these parisites it might that a few years but hey.

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    Mute Dexter Ferguson
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:02 AM

    She reminds me of my pet pig Gilbert. He ate himself to death. I’d say this parasite is heading in the same direction. Don’t donate to her lifestyle.

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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:07 AM

    They are right. This woman is a national treasure. She’s actually worthy of a salary increase.

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    Mute Brian Keelty
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:41 AM

    When you receive 82million euro from the state, you are answerable to that state…… very simple, if you wish to be independent then stop taking the funding…..

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    Mute Dermot O'Reilly
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:09 AM

    State funding should cease immediately pending a Revenue Audit

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    Mute Ciarraioch
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:42 AM

    She tried also to muzzle by way of legal threat “Irish Central” , which is a very popular , Irish American on-line equivalent to Journal.ie , which is owned and run by a brother of one of our Junior Ministers.

    Is there no end to the arrogance of this lady and “her” Rehab Organisation ?

    Any chance that she is related to Alan Shatter ?

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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:23 AM

    Rehab needs to be rehabilitated it is completely out of control.

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    Feb 27th 2014, 11:44 AM

    “Private income” = charitable Donations I presume?

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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:47 AM

    This comment may get lost but I’ve wondered do the members of the board get paid, from the chairman to his colleagues?
    She’s basically going in to the Dail with immunity. It’s genuinely shocking that this can be allowed.

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    Mute Dermot O'Reilly
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:04 AM

    My understanding is that Directors of Registered Charities are NOT entitled to be paid!

    But in this Country anything can happen!

    Let’s hope we get a definitive answer maybe from a TD or The Revenue Commissioners.

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    Mute Ferg Breen
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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:41 AM

    Thanks for that Dermot.

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    Mute John Heffernan
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:55 AM

    Nothing will come of this,,, wait and see…

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    Mute Geordie Mcwilliams
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:13 AM

    so who employs her rehab or the state

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    Mute Liam Heffernan
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:38 AM

    I’d love to know does Angela think she’s worth that salary

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    Mute Stephen
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:50 AM

    Ahh here leave it out ! On the personal attacks. She’s being made a scapegoat. But it is obscene that someone should get stinking rich as head of a Charity.

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    Mute Geordie Mcwilliams
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:07 AM

    will anything be done about it or is everyone gonna say how wrong it is and still give taxpayers money to rehab

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    Mute PaulM1878
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    Feb 27th 2014, 8:51 AM

    Charity begins at Home!

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    Mute Shakka1244
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:16 AM

    Yeah – hers

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    Mute Tinker Taylor
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    Feb 27th 2014, 9:37 AM

    I want to know what percentage of Rehab funds come from the Tax Payer. Its probably 100% and if so, she should come under the public sector pay guidelines…..when I say 100% I also include the sham Rehab lottery money.

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    Mute Mark O'Hagan
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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:32 AM

    Unelected lawyers are dictating to our elected representatives. Who really runs Ireland?

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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:39 AM

    Nail on the head there Mark. Lawyer is of course pronounced Lier.

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    Feb 27th 2014, 11:09 AM

    You mean Liar ?

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    Mute Johnny Downes
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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:22 AM

    To Hell with Lawyers. Now we will see what our TDs are made of . They should ignore those threats, and if the Rehab threats persist review their funding. Rehab has irreparably damaged the Charity sector.!

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    Feb 27th 2014, 12:07 PM

    Isn’t it sad that we have to stop giving money and funding a really good charity that does so much good work for people – because of a paid executive at the top of it
    And getting a solicitor to gag a PAC just smacks of arrogance – it’s a sad inditement on the way our country is

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    Mute Dave cullen
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    Feb 27th 2014, 10:45 AM

    A lot of charities suffering because of angela kerins gluttony.

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    Mute Dexter Ferguson
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    Feb 27th 2014, 11:30 AM

    This country is the living movie of Animal Farm. Time for the ordinary animals to revolt and slaughter the pigs of the country. There is no end to scandals. Get rid of her, Shatter, Calinan for a start

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    Mute Murray Ben
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    Feb 27th 2014, 6:29 PM

    But what about the the coffins they make

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