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Varadkar says Callinan should withdraw ‘disgusting’ remarks – but gardaí say he won’t

Leo Varadkar has said that Martin Callinan should withdraw remarks that the actions of two garda whistleblowers were “disgusting”.

Updated 3pm

TRANSPORT MINISTER LEO Varadkar has said that the Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan should withdraw comments made in January that the actions of two garda whisteblowers were “disgusting”.

However, a garda spokesperson has confirmed this afternoon that Callinan will not be withdrawing the remarks and has drawn attention to a statement issued last week in which the commissioner clarified what he meant.

Speaking at a Road Safety Authority conference in Dublin today, Varadkar said that ex-garda John Wilson and serving sergeant Maurice McCabe had used the correct procedures in attempting to highlight malpractice in the penalty points system, but said those procedures “failed them”.

He said that when information about penalty points being inappropriately and incorrectly cancelled was released it was done through members of the Oireachtas which gardaí are entitled to do. He described the two whistleblowers’ actions as “distinguished”.

Pointing out that he was speaking on “my own behalf”, he added: “I want to thank Sergeant McCabe and Mr Wilson for their service.

“They may not have got everything right, but they did shine a light into a dark place and force those who’d rather turn a blind eye to face up to the truth.”

He told reporters that Callinan’s remark about the actions of McCabe and Wilson being “disgusting” should be withdrawn and added that the commissioner should “make any other corrections he needs to make to the testimony he made to the Public Accounts Committee”.

In January, Callinan told the Public Accounts Committee that it was “quite disgusting” that two people out of a force of 13,000 are making “extraordinary serious allegations” and there is not “a whisper” from elsewhere in the force of “corruption or malpractice”.

“On a personal level, I think it’s quite disgusting,” he said.

Callinan response

Last week, Callinan attempted to clarify those remarks following the publication of a Garda Inspectorate report which found “inconsistent and widespread” breaches of the policy on penalty points.

He said last week: “I want to clarify that my use of that term was not in reference to the character of either Sgt McCabe or former Garda Wilson, but the manner in which personal and sensitive data was inappropriately appearing in the public domain without regard to due process and fair procedures.”

Contacted this afternoon, a garda spokesperson said that Callinan reiterates what he said in the statement last week which “clarified the context in which the words were said”.

When asked if that meant the “disgusting” remark would not be withdrawn, the spokesperson confirmed this was the case.

In a follow-up statement from the garda press office this afternoon, a spokesperson said: “The Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan clarified his use of the word “disgusting” last week.

“In that statement, he said that his use of the term at the Public Accounts Committee was not in reference to the character of either Sgt McCabe or former Garda Wilson, but the manner in which personal and sensitive data was inappropriately appearing in the public domain without regard to due process and fair procedures.

“The Commissioner used the term at the PAC in the context of outlining how he would support any member of An Garda Siochana who reports wrongdoing of any kind, but it should be done through the mechanisms and procedures for doing so.”

PAC comments

The spokesperson also cited remarks at the PAC meeting in January, quoting Callinan as saying: “Anyone who makes any report of wrongdoing to me, I will deal with it very seriously…I will not allow anyone reporting wrongdoing to be bullied, harassed, intimidated…that will not happen on my watch.

“There is a mechanism and procedure for reporting wrongdoing which should not be going off to a third party with a whole raft of serious allegations, criminal and otherwise, and producing them elsewhere.”

The spokesperson added that several recommendations contained in the Garda Inspectorate’s report on the system are already being implemented.

Varadkar was also asked today whether the whistleblowers were owed an apology, but he said that was not a matter for him, but those who may or may not have something to apologise about.

Justice Minister Alan Shatter has faced repeated calls to apologise to the whistleblowers for claiming on the Dáil record that they did not cooperate with an internal garda inquiry into the penalty points controversy.

First published 12.43pm

Read: Garda whistleblower says Shatter lives in ‘an imaginary world’

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    Nov 10th 2020, 4:01 PM

    Why would airlines operate flights at a loss and the airports get state aid? Surely the incentive should be to the airlines too?

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    Nov 10th 2020, 4:23 PM

    @Peter O Donnell: You’d think that logically. If the airlines had an incentive to fly then the airports wouldn’t need funding…. More logical decision making made here by Eamonn Ryan. Better than nothing I guess though.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:06 PM

    @Peter O Donnell: Simple. Planes lose more money not flying than flying….

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    Nov 10th 2020, 4:36 PM

    What pandemic.? Surely a pandemic suggests a massive rise in mortality rates.? So far in 2020 the monthly mortality rates compared to the same month of the 5 previous years, with the exception of April when our government threw the elderly to the wolves is lower.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:05 PM

    @John Brendan Mullen: boring!

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:25 PM

    @John Brendan Mullen: thanks doctor.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:38 PM

    @John Brendan Mullen: oh and check the news before you post. Italy records its highest daily deaths since April.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:40 PM

    @Wreck Tangle: you define pandemic for us all please. I’m curious about your definition.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:42 PM

    @Paul Furey: as opposed to what .? Summer months always have lower mortality rates than winter.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:45 PM

    @Paul Furey: ye don’t have to be a doctor to know that “pandemic” is accompanied by a massive spike in mortality rates. That’s not the case in 2020. Ireland actually has lower monthly mortality rates compared to the same month of the previous 5 years. Panicdemic more like

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:46 PM

    @Paul Furey: duh.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:47 PM

    @Wreck Tangle: yeah, you wouldn’t want anything as boring as the truth get in the way of a good story.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:58 PM

    @John Brendan Mullen: “A pandemic (from Greek πᾶν, pan, “all” and δῆμος, demos, “people”) is an epidemic of an infectious disease that has spread across a large region, for instance multiple continents or worldwide, affecting a substantial number of people. ” (…..hint….worldwide….)

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    Nov 10th 2020, 7:39 PM

    @John Brendan Mullen: the lockdown worked and sheltered people like yourself from reality.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 11:06 PM

    @John Brendan Mullen:

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    Nov 10th 2020, 4:52 PM

    Why are the comments closed on the Healy Rea/deleany story. Surely can’t be for legal reasons

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    @ChuckE: you know why!!! Just think how many comments they would have to delete.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 4:47 PM

    They would be better off building housing and looking after people with that money were is all the profit airlines have made over the years

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    @Pauline Cahill: you’re ok with the airlines folding, reducing in size and jobs being lost?

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    Nov 10th 2020, 6:30 PM

    @Pauline Cahill: where are all the profits that pubs and other businesses have made over the years gone? The exact same place as airlines profits due to govt restrictions.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 7:42 PM

    @Pauline Cahill: shareholders dividends

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    Nov 10th 2020, 4:32 PM

    Wonder what Shannon will get as they have been ran into the ground by all governments..
    Pity as with The present one and the Greens the traffic and the congestion etc to use Dublin is a bug of mine let alone the cost of Aviation Fuel to fly over Shannon personally does not make sense forgetting the passengers are from the whole country not just Dublin ..

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:34 PM

    @Sportmad: Airlines determine the routes they fly based on where the market is and where they can make money. Shannon cost Aer Lingus a fortune with their Boeing 707s and 747s from the 60s to the 80s. The fleet had double the amount of take off and landing cycles as their peers and with a full base due to the enforced Shannon Stopover. Madness! And who remembers being stuck in Shannon Airport at 4am for 90 mins while trying to get back to Dublin from the US. Having said all of this what could the government do for Shannon that would not cost the state a fortune and would benefit the country.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 10:46 PM

    @Paul Furey: fair points but the fact remains that Dublin and Cork has been given a big advantage by Government in the funding it receives and as all are owned by the Government why is there a seperate Authority for Shannon..
    Dublin and cork nearly 1bn in revenue 2019 and with snn just 24 m
    There is a massive disparity in that
    counties outside the pale and rebel county a fair share and then see
    We have to travel to and from Dublin from west and its much easier now not 4hrs but yes 2hrs have you ever stayed outside dublin or used tge region’s airports doubt it.. but yet we must go to Dublin i have used ever Airport in this country and region ones best..
    Dublin is a nightmare
    Give the cash to not just snn but kerry and Galway the others are ok with those profits others not..
    Rant over

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    Nov 10th 2020, 5:27 PM

    What about all the profits and grants the DAA received over the years. What about DAA staff who took pay cuts? The media should look into ERIC and see how the DAA broke it’s promise to staff regarding it.

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    Nov 10th 2020, 4:17 PM

    Chicken feed to be fair.

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    If I had a choice support our airports or the media I would back our airport’s

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    Nov 10th 2020, 9:47 PM

    So about the same price as a prawn sandwich and a Coke.

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