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The Daily PollHE HAS THE backing of the Taoiseach but multiple politicians have called for Minister for Justice Alan Shatter to resign.
The man himself is due to give a statement on yesterday’s extraordinary revelations about the gardaí in the Dáil this morning.
He is not expected to step down from his Cabinet position, despite pressure from the Opposition benches.
What do you think? Should Minister Alan Shatter resign?
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I sat at a table of middle englanders a number of years ago when one, describing some daft scenario, called it ‘a bit Irish.’ This stuff is embedded in their dna
@yelkcub: Did you embed your DNA in him ?
@Ken Hayden: trying to figure out whether you meant to say something else but ended up asking if they had sex or not
@yelkcub:
In fairness you’re more likely to hear an Irish person using that expression than anyone else.
@Dave O Keeffe: If I said , did you give him a gob full , I was still laying myself open to the ”double entendre” brigade . I was always onto a loser .
Dave O’Keefe , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quQmJz4ub0s
@yelkcub: “A bit Irish” – in fairness, I use that one myself a lot of the time. Although ironically I’d probably be a bit pissed if some middle Englanders used it in my company. We’re a funny, contradictory bunch, us humans.
@yelkcub: same can be said about use of the B- word. The number of times the British people, establishments, companies or sports teams are referred to as ‘Brits’ is similarly embedded in DNA here.
@Mark O’Reilly: We sure are, black lads call each other nig#ers all the time and nobody has a bother with it. Im all confused!!
Nagger?
@Beachmaster: Naggin
@Beachmaster: Did you mean Naggers ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaBNCBXwiN8
@Beachmaster: numbchuck…as it’s a woodpile..
@Ken Hayden: But the question was ‘people who annoy you’
and you said N****s.
Classic in anyone language.
@Old Gabby Johnson: Southpark has a clip for every occasion .
What an obscure phrase to use .
Just an old expression…
@Clever Jake: OK…was red indian racist; is fenian and westbrit?
@Fank Pulman: not the same thing at all, what she used was a derogatory name for a race. I.e a racist remark
@Fank Pulman: Fenian is as far from a derogatory word as you can get.
@Fank Pulman: Speaking as a ‘red indian’ myself: yeah, it’s pretty racist. Ignorance isn’t an excuse.
Should be sacked for being racist but probably won’t since threasa may in government with with dup known for discrimination homophobia and corruption which she believes is OK
@Richard Doherty: using a singular phrase or word does not make someone a racist.
@Richard Doherty: she wasn’t being racist. She has had the whip withdrawn. An investigation is under way.
@Damocles: At least she’ll be able to sit down properly now .
I wonder will the burning of Irish flags and statues of Mary while DUP MPs look on and applaud next week make the news? Can you imagine if a German Minster applauded the burning of the Tora and Israeli flag?
@Darren Mccarthy: Correct Darren, now that is a premeditated act designed to cause offense to hundreds of thousands of people.
There is advance notice of this thuggery so it should be outlawed. There won’t even be an apology as it’s ” part of their culture.”
@KerryBlueMike: Well if lightning a fire and walking down a road is all the culture you have to offer the world….im sorry but thats the culture a caveman could offer.
@KerryBlueMike:
Saw a post on facebook about the 12th
When Irishmen dress as Scotsmen,marching to commemorate a Dutchman..in order to be thought of as Englishmen..
Does language not have context any more?
@Damocles: Yes it does and this is the context of politics where the N word has negative, dismissive connotations.
@Damocles: the rule is never say the N word. Simple really.
@Old Gabby Johnson: Tell that to your buddy Enda!
@Old Gabby Johnson: except when you can.
@Old Gabby Johnson: true expect if you’re an American rapper. . .
Next it will be elephants complaining that people aren’t talking about them when they are in a room.
And none of her colleagues in the room (Tory MPs Bill Cash and John Redwood) even batted an eyelid.
@Conor Byrne: Wrong. Mr Cash added: “I’m not happy at all with that sort of expression. I think that’s all I can say”. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/10/tory-mp-describes-leaving-eu-without-deal-real-nr-woodpile/
The N word good god can grown adults not just type or say the word. I’m not defending her use of of bad metaphor before some one has a melt down.
@John Mc Grath: How can you accurately report a story if the very word on which the story is based, is censored?
Seriously, was she not aware that The Adventures of Huckelberry Finn has been banned from the American school curriculum?
@Mark DeFriest: the N word is used about 200 times in the adventures of Huckleberry Finn. That book is known as “the great American novel” in the US. Says it all really.
@Peter Cavey:
Arguably ‘The’ Great American novel.
Nuggets?
Would it have been racist if a black person said it?
@Gran T: context.
@Noj Nikrub: only racist if your white
Big deal what a fuss over nothing more then an old saying.
@Francid Dooley: Yeah, an old saying from the 1800′s back where her and her ilk belong. It’s something an elective member of parliament should never say.
She may have regretted the use of the words but the facts that she used the words is indicative of a particular mindset.
@Tony Daly: she is guilty of using a phrase containing a word that’s no longer acceptable in political speech or as an insult. That doesn’t automatically make her a racist, just stupid enough and arrogant enough to lose her job. We shouldn’t loose sleep over it.
(K)nickers in the woodpile? Would be disconcerting to find somebody’s discarded underwear in your garden I guess.
OMG
The lack of reaction from other Tories is because they all float around the same mindset.
She meant to say negative. How strange that she’s. Conservative. Do they think any other way. Them and us attitude.
For goodness sake Daisy have a smile. Lighten up. The lady made a stupid comment that has caused offense once it was reported. She aimed the comment at no individual or group and did not set out to offend or belittle anyone. She has apologized unreservedly and has been shamed by her brain fart.
How long has it been since the word was deemed unacceptable for use in any capacity? It has no other meaning than as a racist term. That you defend her use of it says as much about you as it does her.
@DaisyChainsaw: Get over yourself. The woman made an unfortunate choice of phrases. I will defend people’s right to be wrong sometimes, but could never defend the holier than though type… you know… a bit like yourself.
@KerryBlueMike: the fact that the expression is in her vocabulary tells us a lot about her.
@Metempsychosis: What a nonsense comment.I know the word “murder”,but ill probably just chill at home tonight.
@Nick Drake: you’re not for real. You’re defending the indefensible. Never learn
@KerryBlueMike: a brain fart. Is that what you consider a racist remark is. Grow up boy
I will hear of no defence,
Attempt none if you’re sensible.
That word of evil sense,
Is wholly indefensible.
Go, ribald, get you hence
To your cabin with celerity.
This is the consequence
Of ill-advised asperity!
Alarming at how an elected politician over there could be so ignorant and insensitive, even a child would have better cop on than to use that word in any capacity.
You’d swear some of those tories have had zero interaction with the common folk in the past twenty years, what sort of morons vote for people like her?
@Political Zomby: that is the dumbest piece of mental gymnastics I’ve seen in a very long time
Just your average, ordinary Tory ***t.
@Ian Heaton: yeah you wouldn’t get a Labour politician posting offensive racist material online and you wouldn’t subsequently see the Labour authorities under Jeremy Corbyn trying to gloss over it.
What a complete and utter idiot. Firstly for being a total racist and secondly for releasing a statement apologizing for any offense that she ‘MAY’ have caused – she should have resigned immediately and the fact that she didn’t just underlines that she doesn’t understand that she said something that couldn’t be washed away with a trite apology!
“Ignorant and insensitive “what would you expect from a Tory?
It’s true there is a bunch of naggers in the woodpile
Didnt Mary O Rourke make a similar comment some yrs ago, “working like a b___k”, isnt it bad when I cant put the word black into certain sentences!!-, I myself have never seen one in a woodpile but im sure it happens, I believe the words of baba black sheep are considered racist now, did the sheep complain?? What about snow white and the 7 dwarfs??? I suppose we cud call them ” Snow coloured and the 7 little Johnsons”
Now the Johnsons wont be impressed , u cant win!!! Well hiho hiho etc.
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