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A MAN DIED yesterday while repairing the roof on his house.
The man, who was in his 70s, was repairing the roof on his home when he died yesterday evening.
Gardaí said that he did not fall from the roof.
The man’s body was taken to Letterkenny General Hospital. A post-mortem is due to take place today.
The death is not believed to be suspicious.
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It’s also worth noting that obviously those stats are based on convictions. I’m sure it is a minority of criminal acts that result in a conviction so it’s reasonable to assume that there will also be a large number who were never caught, so recidivism is prob much higher?
That’s because most have no fear of prison. The sentences are short and life inside easy.
I was talking to a Romanian guy once and he told me that if he touches your wallet in Romania he will get two years in prison no questions just bam your locked up … if he touches your wallet here he’s back on the street two hours later …… that’s how Sh!te the system is here…
It’s very simple in my eyes, each offence should carry penalty points similar to driving offences, these stay on your record for 3 years, if you reoffend, then these penalty points have a multiplier affect on sentencing, if you behave the are removed.
This way reoffending becomes much more severely punished. Anyone can make a bad mistake and end up in prison once, it’s the ones with 127 previous convictions that are clearly not getting the message so need a bigger deterrent. If course it would take a justice minister and judges with some balls to implement and enforce and some investment in the prisons to ensure we have space so it’ll probably never happen.
Perhaps Mick Wallace and Clare Daly might view these stats now and consider their future positions on violent prisoners rights .
And 100% of those bailed or given suspended sentences or community service re offended.
So prison doesn’t work. How about castration?
In Australia they actually have a program that estimates how long before you reoffend. On 50% of occasions it is accurate within 6 weeks of your release. 80% of released offenders will reoffend.
I should clarify that 50% of all released prisoners will reoffend within 6 weeks either side of the recidivism date projected
There is also the possibility that we don’t life in a perfect world, some people are just born pr!@ks. They won’t ever change. It’s the balance we all need!
Up in the new Cork prison the prisoners have state of the art technology including the facility to order their meals from the TV; where’s the punishment in that?
45% of recidivism only represents those who were caught and convicted, I’d say? Besides, the courts don’t allow previous convictions to be taken into account unless there’s a conviction.
Second offense should automatically get a year And keep adding a year for each offense.simple
@marty johnbann: and who is going to pay for all these extra prisoners. it costs nearly 2k a week to keep one prisoner inside
The recividism rate in Norway where they actually attempt to rehabilitate prisoners is ~20%. Guess when you cram people into over crowded prisons surrounded by other criminals and emphasise how they need to be punished for their mistakes they don’t tend to leave prison with much buy in into society, go figure
Ciaran In Irish Prisons, prisoners are either in a single cell or a double cell. The times of prisoners sleeping on the floor on a matress are long gone. Now oddly enough very little the Irish prison service can do about criminals been in jails so you will tend to be surrounded by them. When comparing Norway to Ireland you need to understand the drug culture in both countrys. Now in our jails you can attend workshops such as carpentry, metal, plastering, bricklaying etc You can also attend school where the skys the limmet. Professional people such as teachers, physcologists, doctors, dentists, priests,nuns social workers are all employed by the prison service to aid in rehabillitation. So Im not sure where the emphasis on punnishment is in our prisons. Prehaps you can give me an example ?
@Derek Trotter: Norway’s system is more about making a criminal (or hopefully ex criminal) self-sufficient and responsible for themselves. Its a very good system and we should be looking at doing something similar here especially for drug related crimes such as burglary.
Is prison about hard regime or rehabilitation, the Norwegian system sees lose of freedom as the punishment and restorative justice as the cure. With 20% re offending it is working.
So do we want tough jails turning out more hardened prisoners or do we want a safer society into the future.
Based on these figures that would give us 2,340 less offenders and whatever damage that number does to people and society.
At the current cost of €68,628 per prisoner per year that is a saving of €160 million to boot.
What people need to realise. In Ireland prison means loss of liberty, you are not punished further in the prison. The facillitys are second to none. A prisoner if he engages in the prison system can go to an open prison which is designed around self suffiency. So we already have that in Ireland. The prison system in Norway is brilliant no doubt about it. So why dont other countrys copy it ? My opinion is the culture differnce. Gangsters & drugs dictate irish jails.
So do we take that as a fait accompli or do we try to take young prisoners out of the influence of these gang members, who use prison to recruit them.
Some form of triage whereby a young lad doing 6 months is not left on wings with hardened gang masters, but dealt with in a restorative justice manner in attempt to reduce re offending and that spiral of prison life.
In irish prisons 17 year olds mix only with their age group. 18 – 21 year olds are on landings together. So the Irish prison service has already taken the steps your advicing. To repeat myself the facillitys are in place and prisoners are treated in a fair way. Unfortunatley with young men in prisons the damage is done before the come to jail.
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