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Spending cuts and immigration policy main issues in EU Commission presidency debate

The debate was the first of its kind to include all five parties in the running for the highest executive position in the EU.

Belgium European Elections From left, Alexis Tsipras from Greece, Denmark's Ska Keller, Germany's Martin Schulz,Luxembourg's Jean-Claude Juncker, and Belgium's Guy Verhofstadt. AP Photo / Yves Logghe AP Photo / Yves Logghe / Yves Logghe

THE FIVE TOP candidates to head the European Commission swapped accusations Thursday over the impact of Europe’s austerity measures and the role played by banks in sparking the economic and financial crisis.

In an often heated debate in Brussels, several candidates were forced onto the back-foot by Greek radical-left leader Alex Tsipras, who wasted no time in denouncing “catastrophic austerity policies” and demanding an exit from “debt paranoia”.

Conservative leader Jean-Claude Juncker, the former prime minister of Luxembourg who headed the single-currency Eurogroup for eight years, pounced on Tsipras’s remarks, rejecting the suggestion he had not acted in the best interests of Greece.

“I worked for years, day and night, to prevent Greece leaving the eurozone,” Juncker said, adding that he had done everything in his power to help the ailing country while endeavouring to get its public finances in order.

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Guy Verhofstadt, the candidate from the centre-right liberal grouping ALDE, mocked Tsipras’s suggestion that banks and EU banking policies were to blame for southern Europe’s economic woes.

“In Greece, in Italy, it wasn’t a matter of banking, but bad policies on the part of your political parties,” Verhofstadt told Tsipras, defending the need for fiscal discipline in the EU as it struggles to move out of recession.

You need fiscal discipline, otherwise you cannot have growth… and that means making no new debt.

Verhofstadt added that the best way forward was to make the most of the EU’s common market by removing economic barriers within the 28-member bloc.

Greens leader Ska Keller, the only woman in the race to become the next president of the European Commission, said that more austerity in the EU would “worsen the situation”, but called on member states to do more to invest in “sustainable jobs” in renewable energy.

“Unilaterally cutting”

Socialist leader Martin Schulz, the outgoing president of the European Parliament, agreed the EU had made a mistake in “unilaterally cutting” spending, but pointed to the fight against tax fraud and tax evasion as the best way of providing relief to state coffers.

The debate was the first of its kind to include all five parties in the running for the Commission presidency, which is the highest executive position in the EU.

Belgium European Elections Luxembourg's Jean-Claude Juncker, right, talks with Germany's Martin Schulz, prior to the debate. AP Photo / Yves Logghe AP Photo / Yves Logghe / Yves Logghe

In a break from earlier formats, three of the candidates spoke English, while Juncker chose French and Tsipras used Greek. The event, broadcast from the European Parliament building in Brussels by 50 TV stations and a variety of radio stations and websites across Europe, was moderated in English by an Italian journalist.

With 10 days left in the European parliamentary election campaign, all eyes had been on Tsipras, the former communist who had previously eschewed public debates.

Immigration policy

One of the only two moments of policy agreement in the debate came when discussing the EU’s policy setting on asylum-seekers, following another shipwreck off the coasts of Italy this week which claimed 17 lives.

Verhofstadt, a former Belgian prime minister, said that part of the problem was the EU’s lack of a common legal immigration policy, which in turn exacerbated the problem of illegal arrivals.

Tsipras argued it was “unacceptable… to allow the Mediterranean to turn into a graveyard”, saying Europe needed to become “synonymous with solidarity”.

“Scandal”

Keller called the absence of a coordinated immigration policy a “scandal”, while Juncker agreed that the time had come for “a European law dealing with migration”, urging EU members not to cut their aid budgets to better assist people before they undertook the perilous journey across the Mediterranean.

The candidates also concurred on the responsibility on the part of EU member states to appoint one of them, as the leaders of political groupings in the European Parliament, to replace current Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso after the May 22-25 poll.

Under new rules, member states are required to “take into account” the results of parliamentary elections in appointing the new Commission chief. However, it remains unclear whether that amounts to a legal obligation to appoint party leaders.

“It is finished the idea that the Commission president would be the result of a backroom deal — this is finished,” Schulz said.

If they really dare to nominate another (candidate), the answer is quite clear: you will get no majority in the European Parliament.

Juncker agreed, saying that to not appoint a party leader would be a “denial of democracy” and would imply that European citizens no longer mattered in the EU.

The live televised debate was co-hosted by Ireland’s own Conor McNally, RTÉ News2Day presenter.

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    Mute Ger Comings
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:16 PM

    No phone boxes either…

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    Mute Ger Comings
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:22 PM

    Post boxes to go next – as internet communications/e-commerce/e-mails increase, and take over.

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    May 3rd 2016, 12:25 PM

    Then post offices for the same reasons.

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    Mute Neal Ireland Hello
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:27 PM

    Son there’ll be nothing left to pee into.

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    Mute Ger Comings
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:34 PM

    Finally, the post office will disappear (with benefits paid into bank accounts) when postal deliveries cease, for good.

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:23 PM

    Where we live they already use disposable nappies and throw them in the ditches……

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    Mute Neil
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:38 PM

    Post will benefit from the continued increase in online shopping. Going nowhere.

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    Mute Ger Comings
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:42 PM

    The majority of my internet purchases come by courier.

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    Mute Joe Keogh
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    May 3rd 2016, 3:02 PM

    It was the number one spot outside Trinity.

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    Mute Gareth Cooney
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    May 3rd 2016, 5:57 PM

    Doddle is dealing with deliveries in London. 300 stores will be open at train stations across the UK. Argos is also in bed with eBay

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    Mute aboutallthethings
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    May 3rd 2016, 8:05 PM

    True. I always wonder why eircom (eir) don’t just convert the phone boxes into worked hubs with boosted range and provide WiFi throughout the country. I know it might not be lightening fast but it would be something. I was in Limerick recently and noted that there is city wide free Wi-Fi. A few cities on mainland Europe do the same.

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    Mute John Hagin Meade
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    May 6th 2016, 8:54 PM

    @Ger Comings: “The majority of my internet purchases come by courier”. The majority of Heroin and Cocaine comes by gurrier.

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    Mute Cosmo Kramer
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:20 PM

    If you ever wonder what they were like just think about the toilet in the bookies in Trainspotting..

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:20 PM

    In a thousand years time this will probably be looked upon as a great archaeological discovery of how the Irish pissed in the twentieth century…..academics will probably write books on the subject or whatever they will use then to document these things.

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    Mute Danny Flynn
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:25 PM

    It was a shit hole anyway

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    Mute liam
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:48 PM

    Think the fact we even had public toilets that could be considered historic is the real story here.

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    Mute Ger Comings
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:54 PM

    Yes liam. They were British toilets built by Armitage Shanks of Staffordshire – and, I suppose, they had to be gotten rid of, like Nelson’s Column.

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    Mute Phil Blanc
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:43 PM

    There’s a story that one day some Japanese tourists stopped by Pat Ingoldsby selling books outside the Bank of Ireland and asked for directions to St Stephen’s green. He apparently pointed across the road to the toilets and told them to head down to the subway, take one stop and they’d be there.

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    May 3rd 2016, 1:56 PM

    A couple of old underground victorian style public toilets in london have been turned into cool little bars and restaurants.
    Unfortunately our planning authorities are failing the city yet again

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    May 3rd 2016, 2:02 PM

    Yes Emma – there’s a fine/largish one on Shepherd’s Bush Green, which does extremely well. Because its near the massive Westfield Shopping Cente, which is the biggest in the UK.

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    May 3rd 2016, 3:37 PM

    We’ll just have to struggle on.

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    Mute John R
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    May 3rd 2016, 5:24 PM

    In fairness, these toilets were rather tiny from what I remember and would never have been viable as bars or restaurants.

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    May 3rd 2016, 6:24 PM

    Westfield is actually the third biggest in the UK Ger, the MetroCentre in Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, is the biggest, followed by the Trafford Centre in Manchester.

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    May 3rd 2016, 6:38 PM

    Biggest – in terms of business, not square footage, which is not cost effective. In other words, the most profitable and busiest. Sorry for confusing you, pope.

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    May 3rd 2016, 6:59 PM

    Which pope is the wiki freak…p1, the kraut?

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    May 3rd 2016, 7:04 PM

    JR, in fairness? In fact, some were huge – with several staff.

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    May 4th 2016, 1:22 AM

    Not even a nice try, you stated ‘biggest’ – not ‘most profitable’, sorry to piss on your parade Mr. Shortcomings :)

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    May 4th 2016, 9:13 AM

    Biggest, as in business. Pope wiki…

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    Mute Strong silent type
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    May 5th 2016, 2:41 AM

    Wrong again, you claimed ‘biggest’ period, Google ‘biggest’ and physical size will be the only results returned, learn how to communicate before digging an ever bigger hole for yourself and your overly sensitive ego.

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    Mute OneTrueVoice
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:02 PM

    These toilets were used during the 1916 Rising by the martyrs. This is an OUTRAGE!

    I’m organising a march starting on Parnell St (outside party headquarters) on Saturday at 10am.

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    Mute Wesley Moore
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:17 PM

    Will try pop down also. I have hoped for most of my years to see these public restrooms restored and put to use.

    These will be as much of an improvement to the cityscape as the corpo flats. Our history is slowly being erased..

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    Mute Neal Ireland Hello
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    May 3rd 2016, 3:05 PM

    If you’re being serious, why did you wait until now? This was all planned ages ago.

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    Mute Rashers Tierney
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    May 3rd 2016, 3:30 PM

    Ah, Dublin City Council. From the people who brought you fines for pissing in the street, on foot of the closure of public conveniences in the 1990′s. What other civilised Capital City in Europe is without public toilets? I am not well travelled, but have been to Paris, Rome, Lisbon and Berlin – facilities which recognize human physiology are available in all these places. I cannot speak to their availability elsewhere.

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    May 3rd 2016, 2:59 PM

    I’m surprised it wasn’t objected to by people claiming a 1916 leader had a S***e in one during the rising

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    May 3rd 2016, 1:44 PM

    George Michael petitioning Dublin city council to preserve the toilets

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    Mute Ger Comings
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:46 PM

    Who she?

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    May 3rd 2016, 1:59 PM

    Sad that we had to lose the loos for the luas.

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    Mute Brian Kearns
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:20 PM

    I cant understand why the existing structure couldn’t be used for a control box?

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    Mute Ger Comings
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:22 PM

    For the control of what exactly, Brian?

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    Mute Brian Kearns
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:26 PM

    “Plans are now in place for a control box to be fitted at the site which will allow operate the College Street and Westmoreland Street Luas stops when they are completed.”

    I would assume its that?

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    Mute Michael Kavanagh
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    May 3rd 2016, 2:44 PM

    Remember that these particular jacksies have not been used (or abused!) for 20 years. Whatever alternative arrangements were to be made were made long ago!

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    Mute Brian Kearns
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    May 3rd 2016, 1:19 PM

    Whatever the plan for the site is, It’s not available to view on the DCC planning search. I wonder Why?

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    Mute Edmond Mc Grath
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    May 3rd 2016, 2:12 PM

    Ah now! Demolished and not a protester in sight! I honestly thought that this action would surely merit a dirty protest!

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    Mute Michael Burke
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:53 PM

    Good riddance

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    Mute WC Herren
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    May 3rd 2016, 2:15 PM

    remember the graffiti -Welcome to the Pleasure Dome. But seriously where are people meant to go for a pee in the city centre?

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    Mute John Barry
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    May 4th 2016, 2:38 AM

    Against the spire…

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    May 4th 2016, 4:52 AM

    It hasn’t been in use for 20 years. Didn’t bother you then

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    Mute John Hagin Meade
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    May 6th 2016, 8:59 PM

    I think you have a point.

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    Mute Colette Kearns
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    May 3rd 2016, 12:33 PM

    Put’s a new meaning to “taking the piss”

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    Mute bings
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    May 3rd 2016, 2:09 PM

    Luas drivers now going down the crapper. What next???

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    May 3rd 2016, 12:21 PM

    agh sh*te!

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    May 3rd 2016, 5:57 PM

    Pretty disgraceful treatment of the city’s Victorian heritage.

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    May 3rd 2016, 3:25 PM

    This is a real bummer.

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    May 3rd 2016, 6:26 PM

    The only sh*te you will see there in the future will be driving a tram. Ding ding.

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    May 3rd 2016, 2:47 PM

    If those walls could only talk. Shot no, we don’t want to go down that shady lane

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    May 3rd 2016, 6:00 PM

    Shur we’ll puss up the nearest alleyway it’ll be grand, we’re irish what else would you expect?

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    May 3rd 2016, 6:17 PM

    The Loos have made way for the Luas.

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    Mute Mondoburley
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    May 3rd 2016, 7:52 PM

    That’s some old shite..

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    Mute John Hagin Meade
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    May 6th 2016, 9:02 PM

    “Public toilets over 100 years old are demolished to clear way for Luas”. I think this article is a load of sh*te. I’m pis*ed off!.

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    May 3rd 2016, 4:36 PM

    No shit!

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    May 3rd 2016, 1:07 PM

    A lot of Brown envelopes around the JC Decauox Dublin Bikes scheme. The deal was done in private and city manager did not allow transparency.

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