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Lucinda Creighton is seen as the driving force behind the establishment of any new political party in Ireland. Mark Stedman/Photocall Ireland

There's a lot of talk, but a new political party is not imminent. Here's why...

There’s talk, and a lot of it, about a new political party being set up in Ireland but the reality is that any such development remains a way off yet.

WITH MANY VOTERS taking the view that the government has failed to bring about a new politics and the ‘democratic revolution’ that had been promised, independents and smaller parties have been the beneficiaries of voters’ anger and disillusionment.

The results of last months local and European elections were notable primarily for the rise of Sinn Féin and the re-emergence Fianna Fáil  - to the detriment of the government parties – but we shouldn’t forget that it was ‘Independents’ Day’ also.

Hundreds of independent local election candidates were the beneficiaries of the voters’ shunning the establishment. To take one example, the Independents’ Network, a loose alliance of non-party candidates, saw a credible nineteen of its 36 members elected – two MEPS and seventeen councillors.

“A very clear mandate has been given to Independents, from across the political spectrum, to represent the interests of those who chose to elect them in a way that is entirely different from party representation,” one of the networks founders, Catherine Murphy, said last week.

The emphasis on independence, particularly from a party whip system, is obvious, but even Murphy admits that members of the network have signed up to a set of common principles, a manifesto of sorts, that focuses on human rights, equality, democracy, community and sustainability.

All of which gives rise to speculation that a new political party is just around the corner, claims dismissed by the group in the past.

Dail Scenes Independent TD Catherine Murphy has focussed on helping non-party candidates but they must sign up to a common principles document. Sasko Lazarov / Photocall Ireland Sasko Lazarov / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

While polls consistently show an appetite for a new party they do not necessarily say what kind of party is needed, nor do they indicate whether voters would actually vote for that party. Perhaps they’d just like the option to. 

Of course much of the new party talk focuses on the activity of the Reform Alliance, the group of ex-Fine Gael TDs (some of whom remain party members it should be noted) who lost the whip over the abortion vote last summer.

Today, the Irish Times reports that detailed plans for a new party are being drawn up and discussions are taking place with politicians inside and outside the Dáil who could join up.

Reform Alliance sources have indicated previously that a new party would have to happen after the elections that have just happened and before the next general election in 2016.

With that in mind the period between now and the end of 2015 is particularly crucial.

The moves have apparently started but members of the Alliance who we spoke to this morning sought to downplay talk that anything is imminent.

“It was briefly discussed earlier in the year,” one RA member, who declined to be named, said, adding there had been no such discussions since. “I haven’t seen any detailed proposals for a new political party,” another RA member said.

In addition, members of the Alliance appear to want different things. Lucinda Creighton, its most prominent member, has said all along “there is a space” for a new party and she seems likely to attempt to occupy that space, but she has made no definitive moves as yet.

Dail Goes On Summer Holidays Denis Naughten has insisted he will run as an independent in the next election despite being part of the Reform Alliance. Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

Other members of ‘The RA’ such as Dublin North East TD Terence Flanagan and Wicklow TD Billy Timmins may drift back towards Fine Gael while one, Denis Naughten, has already said publicly he will definitely run on an independent platform in the next general election.

There has been a suggestion that discussions are happening with people outside of Leinster House, but this happens all the time. We reported in February that independent deputy Shane Ross had canvassed his close advisors on how they felt about the idea of a new political movement. But nothing definitive has come of it.

Other prominent public figures like Declan Ganley have said in the past that the need for a new party is “obvious”. While former tánaiste Michael McDowell has never been far from the airwaves or the newspapers in airing his views about the need for a new party. But nothing definitive has happened.

In another move that doesn’t exactly bolster the theory that a new political party is imminent, TheJournal.ie has learned that the Reform Alliance never actually registered as a third party with the Standards in Public Office Commission (SIPO) which would have allowed the group to raise funding for research and policy development.

This move was seen as a prelude towards a new party, but it never actually happened despite being widely reported by this website and others.

It’s believed that the rules around ‘third parties’ were seen as too cumbersome by RA members as they would have been prevented from using their Oireachtas allowances as donations towards funding the collective work of the group such as its recent fair value lending policy and forthcoming political reform proposals.

And so while the talk remains, and the speculation will go in the political bubble, the reality is that any talk of a new party remains just that.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:27 PM

    High time but good to see nonetheless.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:54 PM

    @ecrowley ecrowley: it’s a bog state, for a bog people.

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    Mar 25th 2025, 3:06 AM

    @brian o’leary: The Bogside.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:12 PM

    Bualadh bos. Should have been bilingual from day 1. Some unionists still needing to be dragged kicking toward equality.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:26 PM

    @Anthony Curran: like the Israelis

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:34 PM

    @You Cant Be Serious: That’s antisemitic bro. Don’t you know that you can’t say anything negative about the genocidal maniacs or you’ll be labelled antisem…..oops, I did it again. Israeli shill pile on incoming!

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:49 PM

    @Anthony Curran: Even if they installed Scots Gaelic signage on display in Belfast some Unionists would still complain even though some of their fellow Unionist brethern are fluent Scots gallic speakers from places like Hebrides

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:39 PM

    So it should. It’s in OUR country.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:09 PM

    @Luas Vuitton – Penneys Drag Queen: I don’t understand. Northern Ireland is not part of this country?

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:12 PM

    @peter white: as long as Ireland is an Island it forever will be.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:14 PM

    @peter white: last time i checked it was in Ireland

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    Mar 24th 2025, 9:37 PM

    @Phillip Smyth: There is no rule of law written anywhere that says an island has to be one country . Infact if history had happened differently the island of Ireland today could be broken up into more than one country . Ireland before the Norman conquest of 1169 was not one country . It was an island divided up into 5 provinces that was broken up into 150 kingdoms . The 32 counties came about between the 13th and 17th centuries. Wicklow being the last county in 1608 . The ROI that exists today is a breakaway state of the UK that form its own government and became an independent 32 county Irish nation for the first time in the history of the island of Ireland. Ireland has only ever been one nation in what is the UK today .

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    Mar 24th 2025, 11:39 PM

    @Jack Moss: there was still a high king over the 5 provinces

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:13 PM

    Wount be long now until we all on the one road

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:51 PM

    @Kevin O Brien: singing the same anthem Lol.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:22 PM

    I don’t know why but I was thinking about Ian Paisley Snr when I read this and what his reaction would be, with him being so bitter, a poison chalice.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:27 PM

    @Phillip Smyth: oh, the irony of a multi account troll calling a political figure that’s deceased over a decade ‘ bitter & poison ‘……. Hilarious, LOL

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:32 PM

    @Buster Lawless: I’m not a troll Buster!!!!

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:33 PM

    @Phillip Smyth: but if you’re not the real Buster you are.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:43 PM

    @Phillip Smyth: the bog people have come along way since paisley’s day.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:47 PM

    @brian o’leary: are you taking about Londonderry or Derry, or country folk.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:13 PM

    @Phillip Smyth: talking

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:14 PM

    @Phillip Smyth: I think he was referring to all taig’s.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:20 PM

    @brian o’leary: ethnic slurs.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:49 PM

    @Buster Lawless: if you are the real Buster, you accused me of this in the past and then apologized do you remember.. if you do you remember speak now or forever hold your piece, ready and cocked.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:16 PM

    I can see the local loyalists loving the new signs. There was torture when they pulled down King Billy’s bridge that he his horse shat on..

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:49 PM

    Signs heading towards south: “Welcome to Ireland. How’s it Going?” Signs heading elsewhere ‘Welcome to Norn Ireland. What about ya!”

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    Mar 24th 2025, 9:06 PM

    @Larry Betts: Signs to Dublin . What’s the story .

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    Mar 24th 2025, 9:19 PM

    @Jack Moss: Lol. I had that in my original draft,but then shortened it! “Welcome to Dublin. Wats da story. Hope yiz all have a blast,see ya around”

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    Mar 24th 2025, 10:57 PM

    @Larry Betts: welcome to Cork boy.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:59 PM

    I fear no problem with whatever language it is written in. I have skills in recognising and translating many foreign languages. My skills with the usage and intricacies of many different tongues have often led to me being lauded as an expert cunning linguist.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 9:18 PM

    @Larry Betts: Maith a Fir.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:12 PM

    I was up North last week…… Must say it’s a fantastic station, very well laid out.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:44 PM

    Hope it is in English for us southerners.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 9:27 PM

    @Sammydavissenior.: You mean Jackeens?

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    Mar 25th 2025, 3:08 AM

    @Gaelactico: Jackeens & Bog warriors.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:20 PM

    No point in having Irish luangage in a foreign country like the North its the UK and they live under the king.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 8:27 PM

    @Rian O’Sullivan: it’s the island of Ireland separated, thank god we are surrounded by water like Trump said to Zelenskyy there is an ocean between us.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 9:22 PM

    @Rian O’Sullivan:At least the ‘luangage’ they speak is different from the language our High Kings of Tara spoke. From the Royal county of Meath.

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    Mar 25th 2025, 3:09 AM

    @Rian O’Sullivan: Rian ‘Traitor’ O Sullivan.

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    Mar 24th 2025, 10:11 PM

    Tá sé in am don Ghaeilge sa tsaol oifigiúil agus gnó i dtuaisceart Éireann! Maith sibh!

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    Mar 24th 2025, 7:55 PM

    as long as it does get compulsory people should have a choice.

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    Mar 25th 2025, 1:35 AM

    Not sure many youngsters really care about having it in Irish too, it’s not spoken or understood by most even my age. But if it keeps the peace stick it up

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    Mar 25th 2025, 3:09 AM

    @Derek O Gorman: Speak for yourself. Ní thuigeann tú.

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    ” North of Ireland ” … one day , Ireland will be whole again . If our Orange brethren don’t like the idea , they’ll get used to it eventually.

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    Tue 3:04 PM

    Republic of Ireland citizens are trying to get exemptions from Irish in schools
    If you have to do something you rebel against it ,if you don’t have something you rebel to get,human nature

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    Mar 25th 2025, 12:25 AM

    I hope some of the locals don’t head to the nearby Indian restaurant and ask them to “curry my yoghurt”.

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