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In cases where work pays less than the dole ... 7 out of 10 people choose work

Think tank the ESRI has found that for those who, on a “snapshot” basis, would be “better off on the dole” tend to choose employment instead.

NEW RESEARCH HAS shown that in cases where people would be better off financially claiming welfare than staying in employment or taking a job, 70 per cent of people choose to work.

The findings from social and economic think tank the ESRI confirm that work pays more than welfare for close to six out of seven unemployed people — even when costs like childcare and travel are taken into account.

The research is being released today, as the organisation hosts a pre-Budget conference in Dublin.

According to the ESRI:

Policy initiatives to improve the reward from work are worthwhile, but will have only a limited impact on overall unemployment.

More substantial reductions in unemployment will require a revival of international and national demand, and activation measures providing skills and training in areas where new jobs will arise.

Most people who receive Jobseeker payments are single and don’t have children, and work, even at minimum wage, pays  more than welfare for these groups, the research found.

But for those with families, extra payments for children and in respect of a non-working spouse can mean that the net rewards from work are reduced.

However, the ESRI research concluded:

Even those who, on a “snapshot” basis, would be “better off on the dole” tend to choose work.

A number of reasons for this were given, including:

  • The fact that prolonged unemployment tends to reduce future wages.
  • Being in employment provides opportunities for wages to grow
  • That there are non-financial  benefits to being in work, including social and psychological benefits
  • That there are also compliance costs associated with welfare payments – like requirements to attend training and to search for work – and penalties associated with non-compliance.

The ESRI’s Professor Tim Callan, who was one of the study’s authors, said that while policies that improved the reward from work were welcome, “they cannot be expected to have a major impact on overall unemployment”.

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    Mute Winston Teardrops
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    Dec 4th 2013, 10:26 AM

    Thais are nice folks but you never ever disrespect their royals. Just not done.

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    Dec 4th 2013, 10:41 AM

    Thais are nice folks except when you’re involved in a disagreement with them- then you’ll see them turn nasty very quickly and how they always see the foreigner is to blame, even if they are in the right. If you have a road traffic accident in Thailand that wasn’t your fault you’ll still end up paying for it because you’re not Thai, that’s the way things work over there.
    Thais might be friendly but I’d never trust one.

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    Mute MGrey
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    Dec 4th 2013, 11:03 AM

    Yeah remember crossing the border from Malaysia and the immigration officers had to be paid off to let us in.

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    Mute paddy last
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    Dec 4th 2013, 11:07 AM

    Your right, Thai people are fiercely proud people, they love their king and country and will just about always back their own! A word of advice, get insurance and a dashcam if you intend to drive in Thailand in the future.

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    Mute Abinger Hammer
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    Dec 4th 2013, 11:41 AM

    Your storey is not credible.There is no fee at immigration.So if you paid,then more fool you.

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    Mute MGrey
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    Dec 4th 2013, 12:26 PM

    Who are you to question the veracity and start name calling. Were you travelling there in 2001? Why don’t you pick on the commenter who says that not a single Thai person can be trusted – is that a fair comment?

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    Dec 4th 2013, 12:32 PM
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    Dec 4th 2013, 3:49 PM

    Hmmm where did you cross the border? I find that hard to believe, I have crossed the border many times both by land and sea and never had a problem

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    Dec 4th 2013, 4:07 PM

    @ MGrey,Yes I was travelling there in 2001 and 15 years before that date too.Ive never heard of any monies being demanded unless someone has overstayed the period that a visa has been issued for.Which is a fine and not a bribe.
    Im not bringing into question the correctness or accuracy of your comment,thats for you to establish.
    And after almost 30 years living and working in The Kingdom I do trust my Thai friends.Maybe Inanimate Carbon Rod needs to become more animated.
    Dont dictate what my opinion should be whether it pleases you or not,or to whom it be directed.

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    Dec 4th 2013, 4:18 PM

    I haven’t dictated anything to anyone and your snotty response and basically calling me a liar is unacceptable. Your naive attitude to corruption is also embarrassing.

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    Dec 4th 2013, 5:10 PM

    Many thanks for the compliment MGrey.I find it comical that you consider me to be naive,which must be an embarrassment.I dont remember calling you a liar,I merely said that I found your comment not to be credible.

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    Dec 4th 2013, 9:16 PM

    Read the link I posted and stop embarrassing yourself even more!

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    Dec 5th 2013, 12:30 AM

    I read it but unlike you I dont believe everything I read.Id hardly associate comments from trolls that have been hard done by on a forum such as tripavdisor to be gospel.
    I forgive you.

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    Dec 5th 2013, 7:27 AM

    Bit of generalization on that one mate. 65 million Thais and none to be trusted? Ignorant narrow minded thoughts. I’m married to a Thai and working in Thailand 6 years and find the people to be trustworthy. I suppose all Irish are drunken street brawlers?

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    Dec 9th 2013, 9:19 AM

    I’ve known Thailand for very many years. I spend the winters in Hua Hin. I have many Thai friends.
    I find the Thais very honest and trustworthy. They are lovely people and very hospitable. One can
    find good and bad in all societies.

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    Dec 4th 2013, 10:25 AM

    Cash is King in Thailand, it’s all about money, deceit and corruption. At least it’s not about religion, thankfully.

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    Dec 4th 2013, 10:22 AM

    King Bhumibol Adulyadej celebrates his 86th birthday tomorrow December 5th.Though his is not now in Bangkok but was moved to the quiet coastal town of Hua Hin.Many happy returns your Majesty.

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    Dec 9th 2013, 9:24 AM

    Thanks Abinger, I attended The Birthday celebrations up at the palace in Hua Hin among the thousands of well
    wishers. The H.M. The King is a wonderful person and has devoted his life to helping the poor as the rest of his
    family also have.. I’m very fond of the Royal family. LONG LIVE THE KING!

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    Dec 4th 2013, 10:47 AM

    @Pat: The demonstrations had nothing to do with HRH King Bhumibol Adulyadej. They were part of ongoing dissatisfaction with the current regime and the PM’s stupid attempt at trying to pass an amnesty bill that would allow her brother to return to the country and not face charges of corruption. How she honestly thought that was going to happen I’ll never know.

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    Dec 4th 2013, 9:21 AM

    Stupid stupid people. Some day they might wake up and realise instead of having a revolution every two years they should kick out the fella on top.

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    Dec 4th 2013, 9:33 AM

    Try saying that in Thailand and see how it goes down. To your statement makes nonsense, it’s like saying that overthrowing the queen of England would make a difference to how politicans operate.

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    Dec 4th 2013, 9:51 AM

    What a stupid stupid statement! They are demonstrating against the government not the king. Just because you don’t like the idea of a king, leave them be.

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    Dec 5th 2013, 7:36 AM

    I always find the gentle ways of the Thai lovely when I visit and I think that the demonstrators efforts to clean up for the king show an incredible maturity. What a lovely gesture.

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