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With all this politics what hope does the banking inquiry have of finding out anything?

The government messed up in not ensuring it had a majority on the inquiry in the first place, but now its attempts to reverse this threaten to undermine the whole process of finding out what happened to the Irish banking system.

EVEN BEFORE THE process of establishing it began there were questions being asked of what, if anything, the banking inquiry could achieve given that it’s been six years since it happened, the considerable amount that is already known and the various criminal prosecutions under way.

Could a group of politicians get to the bottom of why the government decided to issue a blanket guarantee of the Irish banking system in September 2008 where others, including the current Central Bank governor, have apparently failed?

Or have they failed? Isn’t the broad outline of what happened already known? That a credit-fuelled building boom caused banks to lend beyond their means, lax regulation meant they weren’t caught and when the bubble burst they brought the economy and the very sovereignty of the State down with them.

Politicians, ill-prepared and ill-advised, made a fatal decision to guarantee all assets and liabilities of those failed or failing financial institutions and plunged the State into an unsustainable debt position that would, two years later, force it into a Troika bailout. That’s roughly what happened, right?

Make them sweat

Well apparently politicians are going to find out more. They are going to grill former taoisigh, the regulators, the officials, the auditors and get to the bottom of all of this. Brian Cowen and many others will be hauled before public hearings, be made to sweat it out and answer tough questions.

That’s of course if the committee even manages to get the ball rolling at all.

The special Oireachtas Committee established to carry out the inquiry cannot even agree on its membership with the government having lost its majority on the committee after the opposition succeeded in adding two opposition senators to the nine-member panel which already consisted of seven TDs – four government and three opposition.

The coalition’s error in process of selecting the senators was simple. When it appointed the seven TDs it expressly named them in the formal motion that went before the Dáil.

Yet when it came to appointing two senators it left the matter up to the little-known and little-used Seanad Committee of Selection and, most importantly, the motion before the upper house did not specify the desire for one government and one independent senator.

This left the goal wide open for the opposition to do what it did and appoint two of its own – independent Seán Barrett (who the government can live with) and Fianna Fáil’s Marc MacsSharry (who the government cannot live with).

Politics, politics, politics

The government even had the opportunity to ensure it didn’t happen when it came to the selection committee.

Last week’s meeting of the Committee of Selection could have been adjourned by its chair, Fine Gael upper house leader Maurice Cummins, but it wasn’t despite the fact it was apparent that the government was missing a number of members that meant it would lose a vote.

The reasons for this are unclear and Cummins hasn’t returned calls.

Despite allowing this to happen – and not doing anything to stop it when it could have – the government now appears determined to reverse the decision and add its favoured candidate, the Labour senator Susan O’Keeffe, as a replacement for MacSharry.

All of this is politics and indicative of the government’s desire to control the committee. Fianna Fáil’s Michael McGrath, who understandably wants MacSharry and not O’Keeffe, said as much this morning and how right he is.

Why, if this is about finding out the facts of the banking collapse, does the government need to have control over a committee set up to establish these facts?

But perhaps more importantly, even if we accept the principle that it should have a majority what does it say about the government’s competence that it cannot even ensure this is the case?

All this has succeeded in doing is delaying the banking inquiry even getting under way – its first meeting was due to take place tomorrow but has now been postponed because there is no agreement on the membership. 

Many would say it’s already been delayed too long but many more might also say that if this is how it’s going to be run, what’s the point in carrying it out at all? 

Read: Here’s how the government could restore its majority on the banking inquiry

‘A dog’s dinner’: Banking inquiry could be delayed as government tries to sort out its own mess

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    Mute Keith Moran
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:37 PM

    God help the rescue services dealing with pure stupidity

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    Mute The David Irving
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:47 PM

    They shouldn’t save them and make an example of the morons.

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:47 PM

    Some people it seems are walking adverts for Darwin awards….

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    Mute Amy gaffney
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:48 PM

    Do these fools not realise they’re putting the rescuers lives in danger too? For the love of jaysus people stay away from the coasts unless it can’t be avoided.

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    Mute Keith Moran
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:02 PM

    Just see with the thumbs down there’s a few knob ends on here that would put other peoples lives at risk for their little thrill sad A Holes

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    Mute Chewey Bacca
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:13 PM

    But sure he thought he’d be grand !

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    Mute dirty harry
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:27 PM

    Free country if I wanna walk on a pier in a storm I can ! Mind your own business coast guard

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    Mute Bruno Bellone
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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:01 PM

    The bollocks will probably put in a big claim now as well

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    Mute Celia Murphy
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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:14 PM

    Clown

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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:57 PM

    Dirt bird

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    Mute Paulie Cicero
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    Jan 6th 2014, 8:21 PM

    Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

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    Mute Nick O'Laoire
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    Jan 6th 2014, 9:07 PM

    you get a thumbs down for blatant misuse of adjectives

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    Mute craig david
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    Jan 6th 2014, 10:20 PM

    Knob

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    Mute Jill :D
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    Jan 7th 2014, 12:16 AM

    Just because someone makes a stupid decision doesn’t mean they deserve to die!!!

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    Mute Tommy Harper
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:51 PM

    What a muppet, idiots like him should be charged with wasting the resources of the emergency services

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    Mute Keith Moran
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:56 PM

    I wish I could like your comment a million times it’s how I feel putting lives of others at risk for their stupidity
    Knob ends

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    Mute dirty harry
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:28 PM

    Keith ye gimp

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    Mute Keith Moran
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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:48 PM

    Shows your mental age that does dipstick

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    Mute Keith Moran
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    Jan 6th 2014, 8:05 PM

    My name is there for all to see I don’t need to hide my identity dipstick

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    Mute Mel Finn
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:42 PM

    weather is crap outside, what will i do….i know ill go for a plesant stroll along howth pier, that will be nice…fekin ejit

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    Mute Norma Kealy
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:47 PM

    Six different emergency services teams to deal with one idiot …..

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    Mute Norma Kealy
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:49 PM

    Oops, sorry can’t count ,five teams.

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    Mute Neil O'Leary
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    Jan 6th 2014, 8:21 PM

    One type of emergency service is too many

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    Mute Brian Tracey
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:40 PM

    Natural Selection

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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:53 PM

    It’s the bottom of the food chain.

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    Mute Frasier Crane
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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:03 PM

    We are still evolving. Give him a break.

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    Mute Kay Tighe
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:59 PM

    The very same fools who probably wouldn’t take a stroll on a fine summers day, I really have no sympathy for these type of half wits they are just so selfish

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    Mute Suzanne Byrne
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:46 PM

    Moral of the story is “DONT MESS WITH MOTHER NATURE”…

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    Mute dirty harry
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    Jan 6th 2014, 8:22 PM

    Just mess with your mother

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    Mute Lisa DM O Connor
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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:05 PM

    On the very same pier … Women wheeling prams and young children walking alongside ??!! Thought I was hallucinating – have they no sense at all seen this from the distance some people have no cop on

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    Mute Brendan Coady
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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:59 PM

    charge them and proceeds go to rnli. unsung heros out in all weather saving lives.

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    Mute Mary Griffin
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    Jan 6th 2014, 9:00 PM

    Now that suggestion is sensible Brendan. Nobody can be that stupid so it is just foolhardiness. Hit the pocket – take it out of salary, social Welfare or whatever.

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    Mute James Greene
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:05 PM

    Warnings everywhere and then you get d1ckheads like this guy in Salthill doing this.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=675164209194223&set=vb.670973546279956&type=2&theater

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    Mute Ben McCabe
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:29 PM

    What an absolute moron

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    Mute Honest Tom
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:35 PM

    That guy must be all kinds of stupid.

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    Mute Diarmuid O'Connor
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:39 PM

    I saw this earlier today and was wondering did he get out ok or need rescuing.

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    Mute Bruno Bellone
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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:02 PM

    He needs kicking, that’s what he needs.

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    Mute Suzanne Byrne
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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:29 PM

    I just watched that, did that man drown because you cant see him getting out, how very stupid.

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    Mute journal commentator
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    Jan 6th 2014, 8:15 PM

    He was probably hoping that the strong winds shaking him about would help him lose the love handles silly fatso

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    Mute Gill Hogan
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:13 PM

    The level of studipity just baffles me

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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:09 PM

    This ape was a special kinda stupid….
    His parents must very proud ….

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    Mute Elizabeth Nunan
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    Jan 6th 2014, 8:01 PM

    Anyone stupid enough to walk any pier in this weather especially when warned not to deserve all that happens to them.
    Not alone do they put their own lives in danger but they put the lives of those helping them such as volunteers, coastguard, RNLI, Rescue Helicopter operators. they should be made pay for the cost involved also.

    SHAME ON THEM

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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:59 PM

    Mensa will be in to that lad

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    Mute Mark O'Hagan
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:19 PM

    How is it that people don’t realise this without the rescue services having to spell it out?

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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:34 PM

    why people decide to go out walking along costal areas in bad weather is beyond me… fine if you want to watch a storm etc but keep distance from danger… Mother nature is a powerful force & not one to be dealing with…. I think all emergency services already have enough to be dealing with besides crazies deciding to go walking along a coastline in the middle of a storm….

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    Mute Tom Brennan
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:00 PM

    Darwin would be so proud!

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    Mute dirty harry
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:28 PM

    Darwin was a fool

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    Mute Keith Moran
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    Jan 6th 2014, 8:29 PM

    Only fool about is you

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    Mute Larry Concannon
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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:10 PM

    Happens ever year somewhere in the states. Usually someone is killed. Btw, we do charge unprepared hikers (no compass; wrong clothes; heading out too late) for rescue. $1000 or more…

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    Mute Aunty Simmonite
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    Jan 6th 2014, 5:56 PM

    The Mash sums it up
    “Waves are eye-catching yet terrifying, rather like women in general.

    “Also people tend to stand too close to them, and we will be encouraging our readers to despise those individuals for their stupid recklessness.

    “That’s until one of them gets swept away. Then we will mourn their tragic loss – especially so if that person wanted to be a model.”

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    Mute Thomas Maher
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    Jan 6th 2014, 8:01 PM

    There is nothing as rare as common sence.

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    Mute Seamus O'Conner
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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:06 PM

    Thoughts and prayers with the injured man and the coast guard. May be recover quickly and swiftly.

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    Mute Mary Griffin
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    Jan 6th 2014, 9:02 PM

    Amen to that and may he get a bit of common sense.

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    Jan 6th 2014, 9:45 PM

    Pretty stupid to be walking on an exposed pier in these conditions….as they say …”theres always one “.!

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    Mute alan davis
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:41 PM

    What a turkey. ..

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    Mute John Long
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    Jan 6th 2014, 11:03 PM

    Bit of tough love needed! Publicly shame the moron who went swimming in it. Pointlessly putting rescuers lives in danger for what? ‘Wanting to go for a swim in a storm’! #Moron

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    Mute Jamie Leask
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    Jan 6th 2014, 6:31 PM

    I’m staying well away from howth pier but is it ok on dun loaghaire pier?

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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:53 PM

    http://www.thejournal.ie/cliff-fall-1250010-Jan2014/?utm_source=facebook_short

    if they look at this they will never go near cliff edges or peirs

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    Jan 6th 2014, 7:01 PM

    Sadly He won’t be playing hop scotch for a while

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    Jan 6th 2014, 10:03 PM

    Its grand bring armbands and flipflops

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    Mute Brid O'Leary
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    Jan 7th 2014, 6:39 PM

    All you people commenting must be saints as ye haven’t ever done anything stupid ? Why don’t ye do something productive instead of sitting like little busy bodies giving out about a man who learned his lesson! Absolute low life people, children!!! And to comment in the man’s parents? I hope ye don’t reproduce if that’s the case! He learned his lesson I suggest ye get ye’re selves a life!

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    Mute Larry Quinn
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    Jan 7th 2014, 9:51 PM

    The most genuine comment Ive seen here thank you.!!! The real morons are some of the people here making comments about a situation that they know absolutely nothing about !!! The mans parents are dead and luckily he is still alive even though he made a mistake. Could name people here who should be ashamed but read the comments and it sticks out and a huge thanks to the people who put dislikes to comments. My God stand up the person who hasnt made a mistake !!! Not on this forum Id say. Thank you Brid and the few other people who did not judge.

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    Mute Damo™
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    Jan 6th 2014, 9:27 PM

    Who are these IDIOTS??…

    #tools

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    Mute Luke Maguire
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    Jan 7th 2014, 7:22 AM

    This is what the weather was like in Howth yesterday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28WDBW9dSLU

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    Mute Stephen McMahon
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    Jan 6th 2014, 11:31 PM

    Careful now

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