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Alexander Boden

Global Wind Day: Wind meeting 2% more electricty demand than last year

Members of the public have been granted access to a number of wind farms to mark the day.

DOZENS OF WIND farms have been opened to the public to mark Global Wind Day.

Several events, coordinated by the Irish Wind Energy Association (IWEA), allow all members of the public to access these sites at designated times.

Figures obtained from EirGrid.ie show that power from wind energy has met an average of 21.5% of the electricity demands in Ireland in the first half of this year, up just over 2.1% from the same period in 2013.

It met over half the total system demand, which varied from 1750MW to 4462MW, roughly 4% of the time.

The majority of these periods were during the night when system demand is at its lowest

For example, a peak of 65.7% was achieved at just after 5am on one morning in February.

An extra 350MW of capacity is expected to be added to the grid this year.

“Clear focus and momentum”

Kenneth Matthews, CEO of the IWEA, said good progress has been made with wind energy so far this year, “but we cannot take this for granted and must ensure that the clear focus and momentum remains on achieving our 2020 targets and planning towards 2030 and beyond”.

“In over 20 years as an industry in Ireland we have always encouraged open and honest discussion and providing access to wind farms right around the country is an open invitation to those interested in learning more about the benefits of sustainable local energy to come along and see it for themselves,” Matthews added.

Fuel imports

Earlier this week, Wind Aware called into question figures published by the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland which stated Ireland had saved €177 million in fuel imports due to wind energy.

“Iin order to prop up this uneconomical and unsustainable form of power and peat the consumer is now to pay €328 million through subsidisation,” a statement from the group said.

“It doesn’t take a maths genius to work out that this is a net loss to Irish society of €151 million,” they added.

The total capacity of all wind farms in Ireland stood at 2011MW  at the start of this year.

Read: These five graphs dig into the figures behind wind energy in Ireland >

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    Mute Rory Corbett
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    Dec 27th 2014, 7:37 AM

    She hated her own people as well.. Especially working class miners.

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    Mute ÉiRed
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    Dec 27th 2014, 7:43 AM

    And kids drinking milk at school as well.

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    Mute Luke's stalker
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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:30 AM

    All of her economic successes were based on north sea oil.

    She made a mess of the north, privatisation was a disaster, most notably the trains(her policies actually caused crashes years after she resigned) and she was best friends with a war criminal. Anyone who would defend her needs their head examined.

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    Mute Liam Treacy
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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:45 AM

    Who wanted to keep digging coal regardless of economic cost. Britain was controlled by unions at that time. They focused on bullying tactics rather than developing a dialogue and different economic model for mining districts and alienated both government and people (Thatcher kept winning elections!)

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    Mute JayoMoonshine
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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:15 AM

    The reality is she defended this state from Sinn Fein/IRA types at that time and prevented civil war in NI. Privatisation on the whole has worked. Labour removed Clause 4 requiring re-nationalisation of those industries. War criminal. Aren’t they all that friend? Ronald Reagan was feted in Ireland in 1984.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:26 AM

    @ Luke’s stalker

    John Major privatised the trains – Thatcher knew it would be a mistake and avoided doing so

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    Mute Alan Lawlor
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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:53 AM

    Thatcher’s (and Reagan’s) policies of privatisation, breaking trade union power, elevating the concept of capital, and the so-called trickle-down effect has led all nations who followed suit to a society today which is inherently unhappy today – due to the huge gap between rich and poor. The top 1% hold more share of the wealth than at any time since feudalism 1000 years ago.
    There is a reason that Americans refer to the 1950′s as their golden age (despite the threat of nuclear war, rampant racism and facism, and lack of civil rights for many) – the 1950′s was the time when there was the smallest gap between rich and poor, yet the country was at it’s wealthiest compared to other nations. Yet many were made to believe that Thatcher’s/Reagan’s neo-liberal policies would make us all happier and wealthier.

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    Mute Dermot Ryan
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    Dec 27th 2014, 12:36 PM

    Yeah but Alan – the top 1% has become so greedy that the normal State securities such as a police force are no longer affordable – they have isolated themselves and that which is isolated is weak …
    Or to put it another way – 10,000 Gardaí against 100,000 protestors means the rich loose – eventually !

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    Mute Ruth
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    Dec 27th 2014, 12:41 PM

    But we all know fine well that many of the state led services are a total and utter union dominated shambles piss*ng money left left and left again of centre. You might not of liked her, but she certainly was no coward, and she was damned right to stick up to the IRA.

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    Mute Daniel fell
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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:00 PM

    But you can see the state of Britain now, social deprivation,poor education massive social economic imbalances all because of her policies.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:25 PM

    Sour flaps

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:48 PM

    Pray tell Ruth, why was she damn right to stand up against the IRA other than in defence of her people (as the IRA were also doing).I’m interested to hear do you know something no one else does or are you rewriting history like the majority of the rest of the ‘Irish’ people??

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    Mute Ruth
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    Dec 27th 2014, 3:09 PM

    They did not speak in my name, I being one “their” people.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 4:10 PM

    Still, it was nice of them to bury her with her butt sticking out of the ground, for Martin McGuinness to park his bicycle.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 6:05 PM

    In fairness to her lol it was edward Heath

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    Dec 27th 2014, 6:31 PM

    I’d say you’re more your own person than an Irish person to be honest

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    Mute Donie Daniel Courtney
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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:17 PM

    and Kennedy started the Vietnam War

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:25 PM

    She was a war criminal

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    Dec 28th 2014, 1:07 AM

    The Argentine govt were war criminals

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    Mute ÉiRed
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    Dec 27th 2014, 7:11 AM

    That b*tch really had a problem with Ireland didn’t she? Seems she held most of us with utter contempt.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 8:38 AM

    She was the right leader at the right time for Britain…she took on the IRA with both barrels without batting an eyelid….A formidable woman.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:22 AM

    The joke is on her because culturally we have been running the place for a while. Watching comedy awards the other night it was hilarious to watch the British comedians grimace as the Irish won award after award.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:37 AM

    Are you living in the real world mate? Sky One and BBC commissioned Chris O’Dowd and BOC to create those comedies. More like Ireland has been subsumed into the UK.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:57 AM

    That’s exactly what I was referring to….. The fact that the Irish who moved to Britain are running the place now.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:11 AM

    Pity she went to the bathroom that night…

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:14 AM

    You using the word mate proves that.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:36 AM

    She was on the phone in the bathroom ordering takeaway for Bobby Sands.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:40 AM

    Cuppantae yours is a great narrative except for the outcomes…so take your hand off it

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:07 AM

    Luke’s stalker. ‘The *fact* that the Irish who moved to Britain are *running the place now*’. This, based on us doing quite well at the last comedy awards? Lose perspective much??

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:38 AM

    Culturally Lloyd….. but that’s alright never let what someone actually said get in the way of a cheap put down.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 12:30 PM

    It’s not a put-down Luke’s stalker and I do understand you meant ‘culturally’. I’m sorry but it still stands that to say the Irish are ‘running’ British culture based on a few wins at the recent comedy awards and that the joke is now on Thatcher because of it is a tad far-fetched and requires perspective.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 12:36 PM

    We didnt like the ould b*tch either. It was mutual hatred…

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:01 PM

    Who ruined Britain

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    Dec 27th 2014, 6:32 PM

    Were you even born then?

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    Dec 30th 2014, 1:37 PM

    Really ? I think you’ll find she made things worse for Northern Ireland. She also made things worse for her own people.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 7:10 AM

    Ding Dong the witch is dead.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 7:18 AM

    Did you see what she just did, two different types of “moves” compared to each other, the mother of neo-cons

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:38 AM

    And may god forgive me but never in the history of mankind was the world so blessed by the passing of a human being…at least the Austrian house painter didn’t pretend.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 5:06 PM

    C U Next Tuesday.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 7:39 AM

    Its ironic that British people are now quite happy to move to Ireland to get away from Britain. The amount of British people living in Cork and especially West Cork for example is amazing. They love the pace of life, the ease with how they get on with their neighbours and the general way of how we do things here. Perhaps if historically their forefathers adopted a policy of integration rather than subjugation things would have been different.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:09 PM

    If they had done that it would have bucked the trend of practically every powerful entity to have existed from the dawn of time right down to the 20th century. The Brits did nothing that the Romans, the Greeks, the Mongols, the Chinese or anybody else that came before them had not already done .

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:09 PM

    If they had done that it would have bucked the trend of practically every powerful entity to have existed from the dawn of time right down to the 20th century. The Brits did nothing that the Romans, the Greeks, the Mongols, the Chinese or anybody else that came before them had not already done

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    Dec 27th 2014, 3:06 PM

    British tourists have enjoyed Ireland for decades.. no irony there..

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    Dec 27th 2014, 7:49 AM

    It’s amazing how many Irish people became like her in the Celtic tiger loads of money, free market no regulation of the banking systems. Greed rules.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:22 AM

    Windom Earle, Nail on the head! However as bad as many of those in this country were that succumbed to mindless greed, it’s perhaps still not comparable to Thatcher who’s policies directly killed people in many countries.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:36 PM

    Margaret Thatcher would have never Guaranteed the banks bond holders. She believed that the state shouldn’t interfere with private companies.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 8:50 AM

    “Thatcher ruled what she called a “repartition” to change the dynamics in the north”.

    What does that mean?

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    Mute Dylan Mullan
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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:05 AM

    Give some counties of the north back to us

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:17 PM

    I think it should say ‘ruled out’ that would make more sense.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 4:34 PM

    It’s an odd thing for her to have suggested in the longer term – Fermanagh and Tyrone were always majority nationalist, but during the partition talks the Unionist side badly wanted them to make the the NI economy more viable – through agriculture and that.

    If Thatcher had have negotiated to keep only the 4 unionist-leaning counties, the NI economy of the day would’ve been ever more dependent on the UK exchequer. Times have changed since with the developing service/IT sector and that, but still NI is nowhere near economically self-sustaining as a six-county state.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 4:36 PM

    (sorry, may have misunderstood – she “ruled” = “ruled out”?)

    In that case the Irish position was logical – they wanted repartition to undermine the economic viability of NI, and hasten the pace of its integration with the Republic.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 4:42 PM

    But she was utterly wrong comparing NI with the Sudeten Germans and the Croats – the Balkans have been scared for decades since the violent break-up of Yugoslavia.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 5:33 PM

    From minutes and notes at the Treaty negotiations, it seems it was Lloyd George and Collins’ intention for the Boundary Commission to restore large amounts of the North to the Free State, and leave the rest until it decided to come back into the fold.

    They hadn’t anticipated the Civil War, and by the time law and order had been restored to the country, the border was fairly set in stone as it was, while southern Unionists had largely moved North. South Armagh, large parts of Tyrone and Fermanagh may have been given to the Free State had the Boundary Commission started work immediately, but it is difficult to know exactly what would have been given to who.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 8:13 PM

    After the Civil War the Boundary Commission’s Report suggested that parts of the North move South, while parts of Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan were to move North. The Free State government were very unhappy with that so they did a deal with London – NI got to keep the defacto border and Dublin got excused from its obligation to pay any of the UK’s public debt. Ironic, eh?

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:02 PM

    No way mate. I’m from roi and now live in NI and never never will I go back and live in roi. It’s a rotten rotten place.why Wld u want ni counties back? Why roi went bust with 26 biggest bust in world. UK had to hand out 6 billion stg to help the misery

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:22 PM

    Defining the border along county lines never made sense. Derry is the best example – it’s the second biggest city in NI, it’s in a county with a unionist majority, yet the city itself has always had a huge nationalist majority and it sits right on the existing border. If there was any redrawing of the border, Derry City would surely have gone into the Republic (or Free State as it was then), probably along with parts of Tyrone, Armagh and Fermanagh, rather than those whole counties. Meanwhile, parts of Donegal and Cavan might have gone the other way. Not sure it would have achieved anything anyway, partition was a horrendously bad idea.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:54 PM

    You may find that the residents of current NI hAve the say in what happens on a vote to say in NI or join Roi. The C and P split is approx 48/52. What % of Catholics would u say would vote to leave UK and join bust Roi?

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:01 PM

    @Bazza: The electorate on both sides of the border will have the say; a majority poll of both. Which isn’t the question being discussed here – Thatcher’s remarks pre-dated the current political dispensation in NI and on the island as a whole. You’re taking this thread off on a tangent.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:11 PM

    Why wld roi have a say in a different jurisdiction? That would have no precedent in law. The point is that MT stood for the principal of majority rule in NI 6 counties is what counts. Your idea that the island of Ireland is what’s counts is a non runner. England has absorbed roi unemployed for hundreds of years. What MT said was very true. Most Catholics I know in NI have British passports and def don’t want to be part of roi. Why should NI residents be forced by a vote of residents in a 26 vote to leave NI? Makes no sense.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:59 PM

    @Bazza: You live in NI and yet you’re more poorly informed than any of its Parties!

    The Good Friday Agreement of 1998 is an international legal agreement which clearly states that NI’s constitutional status will only be changed by a democratic majority, via the ballot box.

    Here’s the relevant para:

    “[The Parties] recognise that it is for the people of the island of Ireland alone, by agreement between the two parts respectively and without external impediment, to exercise their right of self-determination on the basis of consent, freely and concurrently given, North and South, to bring about a united Ireland, if that is their wish, accepting that this right must be achieved and exercised with and subject to the agreement and consent of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland”

    Note the “concurrently given, North and South”. So if the Northern Secretary calls a poll, then Dublin is bound by international law to hold a referendum, and London and Dublin are obliged to cooperate on this. Hence, an all-island vote will take place when the Northern Secretary believes there is an appetite in NI for a united Ireland, but NI can’t be forced into one, and ROI cannot be forced to accept one.

    As for the religious divide in NI, the 2016 predictions are C: 45.8%, P: 45.9% Other: 8.2%. Not that NI politics is remotely that simple, or that a bare majority would be a satisfactory barometer for durable constitutional change.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 12:26 AM

    Good research, remember that wording could only have been written to allow NI the right to decide its future alone and also with ROI had to give up its territorial claim outside its jurisdiction. There seems to me to be a view held in ROI that there is a wish by all Catholics NI residents to be ruled by ROI and that simply is not true. A vote or poll may never take place if the stats and polls never point towards a wish to leave NI. Why would NI leave UK? ROI is far from the promised land, better stay with the devil you know.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 12:43 AM

    @Bazza: Not so much research, as very recent Irish history. Also not sure what your point is in the first part of your reply.

    A vote will take place; its a political imperative – the DUP called for one just last year. It’s also a demographic inevitability – population stats show that Protestants are moving in large numbers to GB for college and career. Their parents are then following them over help raise the grandkids. This trend is not replicated amongst nationalists.

    Whilst it’s true that constitutional politics in NI do necessarily reflect religion (I doubt many people in ROI are eccentric enough to believe that it does; though many in GB do), your last last remark is a sweeping generalisation. I’m impressed that you still adhere to it after living in NI.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 12:43 AM

    *do NOT necessarily reflect religion

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    Dec 28th 2014, 1:05 AM

    What about the 20000 odd unionists that reside in Derry city?

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    Dec 28th 2014, 1:56 AM

    @Anteim: What about them?

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    Dec 28th 2014, 2:31 AM

    It was suggested earlier in the thread that Derry city could have joined the free state/Republic. Derry isn’t solely nationalist, there’s a lot of Unionists there too.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 3:01 AM

    She was a joke, her era in Britain was a joke, all of which is coming to light now with its endless scandal and apologies

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    Dec 28th 2014, 3:10 AM

    @Antrim: The point he was making was that the Boundary Commission was intended to make the border fairer for 1920s Ireland. It looked at moving portions of Ulster (down even to townland level I think) to the “more appropriate” side of the border. The poster above was citing Derry City as an example of one in the 20s that would’ve been more “fairly” on the Free State side. *If* it had been moved to the Free State back then, it’s highly unlikely that there would be m/any Unionists residing there in the present day.

    Hence my question as to what your point was.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 8:18 AM

    It still would have meant shifting people from their homes back then. It was suggested at various times throughout the conflict too, not just in the 20′s.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 8:52 AM

    When u see state organised corruption pervade roi society u can forgive me for staying out of Roi. There may have been some drift element of Protestants to UK mainland but was it any greater that the Catholics that moved, I doubt it. MT statement then is as true today and Whitehall know it. The official reason why UK gave 6 billion stg to roi directly during roi meltdown was to prevent the superior UK welfare system been over run roi residents. Very little changes in roi with the “permenant government” in the UK based civil service being the real outmoded mind set running roi society. The option for roi to vote to re join UK should surely be available in the future.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 1:51 PM

    Nothing wrong with Ireland or the Irish people, just the criminals who run the place

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    Dec 28th 2014, 11:04 PM

    Dylan, in all reality, would they want ro come and join what is a failed e onamy. I don’t think so. They get sooooo much from the uk government that they would not get from Dublin.

    Woyld you vote to have to pay to go to a Dr when tjey get it free? I ouldnt. Woyld you pay for higher road tax? No, me neither.

    I agree with your ideals, and I am an English man. But, I can’t see ir working, unless you want a second civil war.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 11:15 PM

    Is roi sustainable as an economy? Went bust and had to get 175 billion euro and 6 billion stg from UK/NI plus the eu pays for most roads etc, pumping sewage into rivers n sea! Paying to go to a doctor, lowest ratios of speech therapist etc in eu. No gas no oil, just wind. Sustainable!

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    Dec 28th 2014, 11:25 PM

    I from roi but live in NI and spent 10 yrs in England and had 3 children in England and had 1st hand experience of the bus plus all other system. Property tax etc. the system is what makes the place tick. Roi can’t do systems look at who is collecting lpt! The revenue. Roi has no land and property agency, no register of properties, until recently no register of properties that were sold to get data, 50 % of sales are cash and cash sales r excluded from data collection on property prices increase. A few tweets r required to ensure the systems run leaner but in principal the system is good and roi can never match it due to lack of a social conscience and greed.

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    Jan 2nd 2016, 10:35 AM

    30% of the NI workforce is directly employed by the public service and the nett cost of NI to the UK Treasury (after taxes are collected) is approximately £12b per annum. A one off £6b to your fourth largest trading partner to help keep that market open to you is small beans in comparison.

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    Mute Brian Ward
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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:00 AM

    From the Independent paper in the UK

    “In a peace-building summit between the then Prime Minister and Ireland’s premier Garret FitzGerald in 1984, Mrs Thatcher said she failed to understand why nationalists were calling for reforms in policing, justice, equality and power-sharing.

    During talks in the run-up to the 1984 Anglo-Irish Agreement, the Tory leader warned Mr FitzGerald that “if these things were done, the next question would be what comes next? Were the Sikhs in Southall to be allowed to fly their own flag?”” http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/margaret-thatcher-expressed-fears-of-asian-rising-at-angloirish-summit-in-1984-9945904.html

    Basically she was worried that if the Paddies started getting what they wanted (in their own country) then the wogs would be getting uppity in Britannia! Good God man! That could mean the end of the Empire! We can’t have that Oh no,no,no,no,NO!

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    Mute big willy
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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:22 AM

    The revelation from Peter Mandelson that Thatcher told him the Irish are “all liars” just about sums up the witch’s attitude to the Irish

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:10 PM

    ahem…

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:41 AM

    A c@nt of the highest order. More hated in the UK than even here

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:45 AM

    Easy to see why independence took 700 years, the forelock tuggers are alive and well in 21st century Ireland, with every bump in the road they start singing from the west Brit hymn book

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:43 AM

    @ Boganity
    Can we have this again from you. This time in the Irish language. In your own time now…….

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    Dec 27th 2014, 6:25 PM

    Sure you wouldn’t understand Irish if he replied by the sound of you

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    Mute Donie Daniel Courtney
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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:11 PM

    Were you in the IRA then yourself?

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    Dec 27th 2014, 8:59 AM

    she was a bitter twisted woman sure it shows the make of her she didn’t stop working or show any emotion when her own son went missing so that says it all , she wasn’t called the Iron Lady (cow) for nothing …

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    Mute Paul Fanshawe
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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:47 AM

    She couldn’t show emotion seeing that she probably gave her blessing to Mark to organize a coup d’etat in the Central African Republic (I think).

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    Mute Ciarán Masterson
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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:01 AM

    @Paul Fanshawe

    The coup was planned to overthrow the dictator of Equitorial Guinea. By the way, Margaret Thatcher had been out of politics for years at the time of Mark’s arrest.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:09 AM

    Her great great Granny was from Ireland..

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    Mute Mike
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    Dec 27th 2014, 3:52 PM

    325,000 British people from Britain live in Ireland including myself. It works both ways. She was a silly old C ow disliked by the majority.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 5:04 PM

    Well said Mike. She hated the fact that an Irishman made a tidy profit on clearing the Falklands of war junk too. A horrible woman. Ding dong jelly and ice cream.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:41 PM

    There isn’t really any parallel between Irish emigration to Britain and vice versa.

    About a quarter of the UK-born people in Ireland (ie in the Republic) were born in NI, and I suspect most of them consider themselves to be Irish, not British. I would also guess that a lot of those born in Britain are of Irish descent, and again they would mostly consider themselves Irish rather than British. In many cases, they are children of the Irish people in Britain that Thatcher was referring to 30 years ago – quite a few of them came back, and obviously brought their kids with them when they did.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:11 AM

    I still hate Thatcher.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:27 PM

    So the Irish move to Britain.
    And where does her son Mark live?
    The USA.
    That’s before he lived in South Africa.
    The point?

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:45 PM

    ahh Jimmy Savilles Bff how many keys did she supply him with I wonder..

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    Mute Dave Harris
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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:42 AM

    Apparently everybody in Ireland is exactly the same person who thinks and acts exactly the same. Such generalist thinking was thatchers biggest fault.

    A wise man said ( ok, it was me)
    The only thing you can generalise about is People who generalise are generally idiots

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:18 AM

    Hundreds of thousands of Irish people who were deemed surplus to requirements in this state went to Thatcher’s UK in the 1980s. Many came back. Many stayed. All benefitted from the UK’s turnaround at that time.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 7:32 AM

    Not worse than some of the comments posted here about immigrants in the past.

    Still doesn’t make it right though.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:38 AM

    The only person whose head I’d would love to stamp on….

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:03 AM

    shop.royalmail.com/prime-ministers/margaret-thatcher-6-first-class-stamps/invt/20141030
    Here you go, knock yourself out!

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    Dec 27th 2014, 12:13 PM

    I wouldn’t live in Britain if it was the last kip on earth, she was some hag., not missed by many either

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    Mute Mike
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    Dec 27th 2014, 4:47 PM

    You may not want to but millions do, including the 1 million Irish born nationals.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:19 PM

    Thousands of Irish went to Britain to work for their family’s -Thousands of British came to work in -( Northern )- Ireland with guns during the 70s 80s etc-the British army worked Ireland all right-

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    Dec 27th 2014, 12:34 PM

    Wonder how she’s getting on on the big burny fire..

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:52 PM

    Plenty of blood on her grubby hands she let all them hunger strikers die
    I hope they buried her broom with her

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:08 PM

    The Hungerstrikers sadly ended their own life, Thatcher tried for a deal but Sinn Fein wouldn’t have it. FACTS.

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    Mute zacaramanta
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    Dec 28th 2014, 11:00 AM

    Look up your history books she condemned them to hell and that’s wer I hope she is

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    Dec 27th 2014, 12:31 PM

    They were happy to come to Ireland also .

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    Mute amos brearly
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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:15 AM

    I ran a pub in yorkshire and mrs thatcher came in one day. We had a few drinks and sang danny boy. A wonderful lady.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:06 AM

    Trifluoperazine is obviously not working of you…there are other options

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    Mute Dermot Ryan
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    Dec 27th 2014, 12:39 PM

    The Woolpack had Maggie in it – I missed that episode Amos – did she pay by cheque and did you frame it as a testament to your idolatory of false Gods ?

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    Mute Mike Dowling
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    Dec 27th 2014, 2:32 PM

    She was some bitch.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:32 PM

    She was a horrible old boiler

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:35 PM

    A boiler has some use!

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    Dec 27th 2014, 12:42 PM

    Jelly and ice cream. Ding dong! What a disgusting human.

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    Mute Patrick Cunningham
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    Dec 27th 2014, 3:51 PM

    She introduced interment in NI or better put arrest catholics without charge. She was happy for the army to shoot to kill Al last Gibraltar. She was hated in the UK but the loads a money Essex boy and girl I just bought my ouse for a fiver kept her in power.
    She also went to war to remain in power. She is now gone. Not missed.

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    Mute big willy
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    Dec 27th 2014, 4:02 PM

    I was on holidays in England in the eighties with my family and EVERY person we met said they hated her. You’d go into public toilets and the walls would be plastered with nasty comments about her

    My aunty said the elections were rigged. It was the only thing she could think up to explain how Thatcher kept getting in

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    Dec 28th 2014, 8:25 AM

    Internment was introduced in 1971, Thatcher never took office to 1979.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 3:50 PM

    The Iron Lady, may she rust in peace

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    Mute Joe Hill
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    Dec 27th 2014, 8:57 PM

    To be fair she is was no more of a racist, when talking about migrants than thousands of the Irish I have the misfortune to listen to!

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:19 PM

    @Joe Hill.
    Sad but true. In fairness though there are many of us unlike that too.

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    Mute Cath3rin3
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    Dec 27th 2014, 3:55 PM

    Funny that discussing MT and the unions in UK , you might want to look at similar strategies for putting manners on a another large body in ROI

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    Mute Ciarán Masterson
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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:07 AM

    Would those people who despise Thatcher (not that she cared about what they thought of her anyway) have preferred that Britain had been taken over by communists?

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:27 AM

    Taken over by communists? You may as well say taken over by Martians!
    One was about as likely as the other ffx.
    Before you mention the unions I suggest that you read about the plans there were to put down any escalation of industrial unrest using the military, the suspension of parliament, and the installation of Louis Mountbatten as an interim ‘leader’.

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    Mute Ciarán Masterson
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    Dec 27th 2014, 6:12 PM

    @gumbridge

    There was no chance of the planned coup getting off the ground.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-380175/The-coup-got-ground.html

    “Stirling and a ragbag of other nuts. If we regarded the prospect of a military coup as laughable, it was because it was just that: Laughable.

    The Army would not have supported it, or the police or anyone else worth a damn.”

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    Dec 27th 2014, 3:14 PM

    Charlie boy was only man for her

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    Dec 27th 2014, 3:52 PM

    What an absolute cont

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    Dec 28th 2014, 12:23 AM

    Seems pointless to add me tuppence worth as I delighted in agreement with 98% of the comments but I will because I consider her to be the most despicable leader in any democratic country in the 20th century. Together with brainless ‘Ray Gun’ she ushered in a contemptible era of selfishness and ‘because-I’m-worth-it’s’ that we later saw in the Bush-Blair era and the destruction of so many systems. Thanks to this horror of a woman, democKracy is close to being dead. She was a vile travesty of a ‘leader’. Her infamous outpouring at the arrival of her first grandchild summed her snobby ignorant self up when she said with eyelids flapping like the clappers: “WE are a grandmother”.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 12:44 AM

    Evil bitch, no wonder fine gael and their supporters adore her.

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    Mute William Mcgee
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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:03 PM

    Hopefully she will be joined soon by Kenny and burton in the flames of hell .

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    Dec 27th 2014, 8:36 PM

    None of you have mentioned poor Dennis what a life he must have with that cow,

    How did he manage to get the leg over,

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:22 PM

    She was a cu^t

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    Mute All Holey
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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:56 PM

    This from the woman who murdered 200 argentine teenagers on the belgrano the devil was waiting for her

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    Dec 28th 2014, 8:28 AM

    A battleship sunk during a war. Hardly shocking now is it.

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    Mute Donie Daniel Courtney
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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:03 PM

    FitzGearld thought it was “too rational” in the way talks were going??? Sums it all up there doesn’t it…

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    Mute big willy
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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:01 PM

    If someone suggested a new idea to Fitz, his reply was always

    “Sounds great but will it work in theory”

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    Mute ☆♬Andrew Byrne ♬☆
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    Dec 27th 2014, 8:52 PM

    Hated that evil b!tch almost as much as I hate Enda Kenny. Put a smile on my face the day I heard she had died and can only assume she went to hell to meet her maker.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 9:42 PM

    So, you believe in fairy tales then?

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    Mute William Mcgee
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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:04 PM

    I heard she met Paisley down under .

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:41 PM

    Only the Grimm fairytale where the evil witch dies a horrible but deserved death

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:49 PM

    Now then now then, owz about that then.

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    Dec 28th 2014, 8:05 AM

    Thatchers great great grand mother was an O Sullivan from Kerry….also according to Sky this morning they are planning to erect a statue to her on the Falklands….I wonder if they did the same thing in Kerry….how long would it last…..an evil cow,,,,,,,

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    Dec 28th 2014, 1:49 AM

    Rot. Vile hound of satan.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 12:46 PM

    Nay, t’was free of charge mr ryan.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:02 AM

    shop.royalmail.com/prime-ministers/margaret-thatcher-6-first-class-stamps/invt/20141030

    Here you go, knock yourself out!

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    Dec 27th 2014, 2:51 PM

    Funny that in away – seeing as the Royal mail is no longer “Royal” having been privatised at a share value and big preferential share awards that cost the British State billions inside 24 hours !

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    Dec 28th 2014, 5:37 PM

    Who cares about them, Thatcher is now in the limelight due to the belief now that her cabinet had pedos in it and she might have turned a blind eye to that. If true then no one should bother with that woman ever.

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    Dec 27th 2014, 10:23 PM

    Rip Margaret :-)

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    Dec 27th 2014, 11:00 PM

    Margaret R.I.P.

    Rot in Perpetuity

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:09 PM

    The ‘Iron Lady’, you just have to love her to bits.

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    Dec 31st 2014, 10:35 AM

    Thatcher = 1, SF/IRA = -10

    Maggie you legend :D

    crime is crime is crime – brilliant :D

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    Dec 27th 2014, 1:13 PM

    The ‘IRON LADY’, don’t you just got to love her.

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    Dec 31st 2014, 10:36 AM

    she saved the tax payer a fortune on food in the maze :D

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