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'Misleading and grossly inaccurate': Minister slams critics of housing plan

An opposition TD said that if Labour backed the new measures the party would have “completely abandoned any pretence of social justice”.

THE MINISTER FOR Housing Jan O’Sullivan has described opposition claims about the Government’s new Bill to tackle the housing crisis as “misleading and grossly inaccurate”.

Critics of the new legislation have said that the new laws will mean that those in receipt of the new Housing Assistance Payment will be deemed to have had their needs met, and taken off social housing lists.

Independent Deputy Catherine Murphy has called for Labour TDs to reconsider their support for the Bill, which will be debated by the Dáil this evening, saying that if it’s allowed to go ahead in its current form the party will have “completely abandoned any pretence of social justice”.

While Ruth Coppinger, the newly elected Socialist Party TD for Dublin West, claimed the new rules would also “make it easier for councils to evict people”.

The Minister said in a statement:

Opposition claims that recipients of Housing Assistance Payment will be excluded from moving to other forms of social housing – such as traditional local authority housing or units provided by Approved Housing Bodies – are misleading and grossly inaccurate.

She continues:

The new system will specifically provide a route for HAP tenants to apply for other social housing options. HAP tenants will exercise this option through inclusion on a transfer list that allows tenants avail of a range of housing options.

However, speaking on RTÉ’s News at One this afternoon, former Labour minister Roisín Shortall insisted that the new measures would not encourage people to join the new HAP scheme.

“You could have a family that have been on the waiting list for five or six years. Their only option now is to accept this housing assistance payment and by doing so they will be removed from the housing list, so it’s an extremely unfair.

They would have lost their place on the list by going on the new Housing Assistance Payment and that’s the issue.

Shortall said the measure represented “an attempt to massage the housing figures” and that the Government appeared to be washing its hands of responsibility for providing a proper public housing programme.

Read: Housing Bill dismissed as a ‘ridiculous ploy’ to make the government ‘look better’

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    Mute Simon Power
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    Oct 2nd 2021, 10:42 AM

    It’s turns out that internet misinformation is far more deadly than anyone had imagined. Critical thinking should be taught at all schools from a young age.

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    Mute SmallbutMighty
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    Oct 2nd 2021, 10:55 AM

    @Simon Power: unfortunately it doesn’t matter if they teach it in schools , what they learn at home will super seed it

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    Mute David A. Murray
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    Oct 2nd 2021, 10:57 AM

    @Simon Power: Yes, but in America there are additional cultural, ideological, political and religious factors leading to citizens refusing the vaccines. It’s not a nation. It’s a collection of sub-societies each with their own identities.

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 11:13 AM

    @Simon Power: Having the internet without being able to think critically, is like having the university library without having the university, or having a Ferrari bit not knowing how to drive. The once quaint “Educated in the university of life… ” cliche is turning out to be the nightmare very few could.have envisaged.

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 11:49 AM

    @Simon Power: the terrible irony here is that critical thinking has been actively discouraged by the likes of you, critical thinking does not mean blind obedience to whatever the government says.
    If you’re suggesting that people who refuse the vaccine are incapable of critical thinking but assert that those who took the vaccine have demonstrated critical thinking, then you are a lost cause.
    We’ve had almost 2 years of this and instead of solely relying on a vaccine, we could have gotten our house in order, poor nutrition and obesity are huge contributors to covid deaths….a nationwide campaign for obese people to lose weight and everyone else to just eat better would have been a great idea.

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 12:17 PM

    @Dan Broderick: The type of “critical thinking” you’re talking about is the same kind of critical thinking that lead to climate change denial. Proper critical thinking allows people to evaluate what they do know as apart from what they don’t. It also tells us that there are people better placed than ourselves to make these highly specialised judgements. Your type of critical thinking is all about speculation and trawling the web for the lone voice in a thousand that agrees with your speculation. That’s not critical thinking. It’s not even logical thinking.

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    Mute Dan Broderick
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    Oct 2nd 2021, 1:08 PM

    @Vonvonic: I clearly have too much free time today if I’m responding to you but you’re demonstrating willful ignorance here.
    I recommend a multi faceted approach to dealing with Covid, a physically fit person who eats a healthy and varied diet and gets out in nature daily but declines the vaccine for whatever reason, is doing more to help themselves than an obese person who continues to eat crap, watches TV 15 hours a day but gets the vaccine.
    If you’re going to ridicule a healthy person for declining the vaccine and accepting their increased risk of getting ill with Covid, then why not ridicule every fat person for actively choosing ill health through negligence?
    It’s all about personal responsibility!

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 1:16 PM

    @Dan Broderick: Ridicule?. You don’t need to get precious Dan. We’re all grown ups on here. If you dish it, you can surely take it. Critical thinking would tell us that the vaccination program has been a huge success. It also tells us that vaccinaton is the reason we’re able to open society next week. As for diet. Everyone knows that a healthy lifestyle and a good diet are beneficial for good health outcomes. You don’t need to be an expert for that. In one breath you’re saying the government should be promoting better lifestyles and diets. On the other you’re saying that we shouldn’t believe everything the government tells us. That’s some paradox

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 2:44 PM

    @Simon Power: aside from misinformation you’d wonder how many of those 70 million would be taking it if it was the orange lad pushing it instead of sleepy joe. A lot, I’d wager, despite the republicans shiting on ad nauseum about the Democrats politicising the virus.

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 11:35 AM

    Biden really hasn’t got a handle on this at all.

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 11:38 AM

    @LaoisWeather: Very hard to fix stoopid

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 12:04 PM

    @LaoisWeather: What’s he going to do? Going around and personally vaccinated every conservative who refuses to be vaccinated? His grasp of the situation is leaps and bounds better than Trump.

    The most problematic states are states with a Republican majority. They have the lowest vaccinate rates.

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 3:26 PM

    @LaoisWeather: far better than the mango m0r0n . Remember him? Over 500,000 died on his watch in a year. The rate of people dying has obviously slowed down!

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 1:02 PM

    So Biden is going at about the same death rate as Trump was.

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 1:29 PM

    @bread of heaven: I’d suggest looking at the political history of the deceased. There is a distinct over representation of republicans.

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 2:38 PM

    @bread of heaven:

    Unvaccinated people are dying at the same rate as they always were.

    Pity there’s no vaccine for stoopidity.

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    Oct 2nd 2021, 3:27 PM

    @bread of heaven: eh, no! Trump had over half a million in a year! Biden ain’t gonna get close to that.

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