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File photo of, from left, Aaron Ford (IDB Chairman), Donal Buggy (IDB Group Finance Director) and IDB CEO Kevin Lane Jason Clarke Photography

Irish Dairy Board opens $12m US cheese plant

Innovations developed at the Wisconsin facility “will be shared across” IDB operations, according to the co-op’s CEO.

The Irish Dairy Board had opened a $12 million (€8.8m) cheese manufacturing facility in the US, completing an $80m (€58.8) expansion on its US food ingredients programme.

The IDB first entered the US food ingredients market in 2008, and acquired Thiel Cheese & Ingredients in 2011.

The new facility, at Thiel Cheese & Ingredients in Wisconsin, was officially opened by Agriculture Minister Simon Coveney.

IDB CEO Kevin Lane said the innovations and research developed at Thiel “will be shared across all of our operations”.

The focus of this investment is on innovation as much as production with our new facility enhancing our ability to create innovative food solutions that meet the evolving needs of our US customer base and their brands.

Commenting on the opening, Coveney said the new plant will “further strengthen the positioning of Ireland and Irish agri-business expertise in the United States, as well as supporting the economic well-being of Irish farmers.”

The minister said the dairy sector is “entering an exciting time” with the abolition of milk quotes in April 2015 and “today’s opening represents the kind of investment which will help the sector realise its true potential”.

The IDB, a co-op of Irish dairies, is Ireland’s largest dairy exporter and exports to over 100 countries. Its portfolio includes Kerrygold, Pilgrims Choice, Dubliner cheese and the milk powder BEO.

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    Mute Martin Byrne
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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:53 PM

    Because of our geographic location, we should be the last place for the very vast majority of people to claim asylum.

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    Mute TheLoneHurler
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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:57 PM

    Is the Direct Provision system well known for it’s generosity to say that we attract such volumes? How does Ireland compare to others in NW Europe? – genuine question.

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    Mute Inntalitarian
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:25 PM

    Unless a volcano swallows Iceland or the whales fight back in the Faroes you’re dead right.

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    Mute Cian O Donoghue
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    Nov 12th 2014, 7:45 AM

    And that for me is the nub of the issue.

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    Mute PicassoRepublic
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    Nov 12th 2014, 9:06 AM

    Tourist Visa overstayers from the UK – simple.

    How our memories are short when distracted by the Celtic Tiger we ignored reports of taxis travelling to Dublin from Belfast Airport/Port with our so called asylum seekers.

    The only reason most are still being supported by us is their scam has been uncovered and they are going through multiple appeals and will not go home (and we cant ship them out while appeals are pending).

    Asylum is granted on the basis of “entitlement” and not on the basis of how long you have spent appealing.

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    Mute E
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    Nov 12th 2014, 11:51 AM

    Meanwhile over in bankerland.
    Central bankers get rewarded for their heinous gross ineptitude (and most likely gross corruption/criminality) with a new 140 million euro eco village with Liffey views, complete with wellness centre for yoga and pilates classes

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    Mute Barbara Ryan
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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:44 PM

    3 hot meals a day, a weekly allowance, shelter, warmth and safety way more than any irish born citizen gets! I am not a racist person i wish them the best in the world but i am sick and tired of this nonsense. What they’re getting is fair to me! Don’t like it go back to the hell hole you came from if its so bad be grateful what your guest country is giving you! Id rather my taxes go to house the homeless not ungrateful gits

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    Mute Alan O'connor
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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:47 PM

    Way more than any Irish citizen gets.

    Tell me, what asylum did you just escape from?

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:53 PM

    Barbara will be branded a racist for this because she spoke common sense on the issue of immigration, rather than just staying quiet and accepting it like we are supposed to for political correctness..

    I think we could afford these people that come here quicker processing times. There are stories in the media of people coming here and being refused entry to Ireland over and over and over again and not deported. The problem is leaving scores of people in limbo.

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    Mute Isabelle O Gorman
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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:56 PM

    Go back where they came from??? Yeah to rape, murder etc. What about all the Irish that left Ireland during the famine, where would our ancestors be if those countries had the same attitude as you?? Your comment is racism through and through.

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    Mute Isabelle O Gorman
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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:56 PM

    Go back where they came from??? Yeah to rape, murder etc. What about all the Irish that left Ireland during the famine, where would our ancestors be if those countries had the same attitude as you?? Your comment is racist through and through.

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    Mute Luke Mac an Bháird
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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:58 PM

    “I’m not a racist person…but”.

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    Mute kevin daly
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:04 PM

    Spot on Barbara, we the mortgage paying, ,household tax paying, universal social charge paying water paying hard working citizens of this country did not advertise in the international press please come to Ireland and make a new life for yourselfs at our expense.
    Yes the direct provision service is far from perfect.
    Fast track court appearances, no endless appeals on free legal aid at our expense.
    Immediate deportation to the country of origin, as viewed in a recent tv programme some of these asylum seekers destroy their passports so that then can make it difficult for our gardai to repatriate them,some if not many of these people are simply economic migrants. Now I am off to bed as I genuinely have to get up at 4.45 am for work and try and make ends meet like a lot of other hardworking people in this country.

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    Mute Stephen Mc Elligott
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:06 PM

    Barbara obviously didn’t watch the asylum scandal documentary aired on tv3 last night.

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:06 PM

    Isabelle not everyone that comes here and into asylum has had to worry about rape, murder etc in their own country. Britain and Ireland are social welfare states that attract a lot of people that want to avail of these services. Its deciphering who is genuine and who isn’t that is the problem in a reasonable timeframe. An indication of need normally is the fact that many of the ones that really need help can’t afford to get here and suffer in silence..

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    Mute gerry o donell
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:15 PM

    alan she escaped from the nightmare being created by finegael and labour whereby you work hard everyday of the week and struggle to pay mortages , shopping, electric bills heating etc. but the government is helping (itself) by taking all your money in taxs and whatever charges they can make up, sure somebody has to pay to support the thousands who could afford to spend tens of thousands to get here

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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:17 PM

    you do know the irish weren’t given food and shelter. they had to work for everything they had

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    Mute Stephen Mc Elligott
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:24 PM

    Pol, this country and its welfare is actually abused more by neighbouring European citizens than it is asylum seekers. These people are ready and anxious to work but they are not allowed to work and are on an allowance of 19 euros a week. I know one asylum seeker who is a great electrician. It was his profession before leaving Africa and yet he is not allowed to work at his trade and suffers from depression as a result. You really havnt a clue as to the statistics of those who really do come here to take advantage of the system most of them from neighbouring European countries who are permitted to live and work here no problem yet are more attracted to its large welfare package.

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    Mute SeanieRyan
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:26 PM

    It is a very generous system, unduly so, but nothing wrong with that.

    Speed up hearing and limit them to one appeal.

    Problem solved.

    Anyone who returns to their native land on holiday should automatically loose refugee status.

    Another problem solved.

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    Mute Peter O'Leary
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:30 PM

    @isabelle pathetic argument

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    Mute Ciaran O Shea
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:11 PM

    Stop saying 1 appeal!! It makes too much sense so it will never be adopted!!!

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    Mute Ciarán Masterson
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:22 PM

    @Stephen Mc Elligott

    “I know one asylum seeker who is a great electrician. It was his profession before leaving Africa and yet he is not allowed to work at his trade and suffers from depression as a result.”

    Then he shouldn’t have come here.

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:29 AM

    If the fellow is a great electrician and has something to offer I think that is amazing. He has a good chance of finding work here once he is granted a visa or residency. But he has to go through process. All these marches are is a way to make it easier for people to come here from outside the EU. By and large it has nothing to do with getting asylum.

    Stephen a study was published in Britain recently about something similar to what you are talking about here. Albeit this is Ireland not Britain I do feel there are parallels. Europeans including Eastern Europeans giver 100bn more than they take from the British exchequer. They are 40% less likely to claim social welfare than people that were born in Britain. But the astonishing thing that blew the report wide open was that non europeans cost the state 500bn more than they contribute. I would nearly like to check that figure again because it is absolutely massive.

    I would love a report done in Ireland that may exonerate many of the hard working Eastern European people than come here and make the figures transparent and plain to see. But to answer your question no I don’t know the statistics. You don’t either so for the life of me I can’t figure out why you think saying the “You don’t know the statistics line” is relevant.

    Btw I think Seanie is absolutely right. Yet for some reason European governments are unwilling to think of progressive and common sense solutions.

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:34 AM

    Ciarán good argument. We are still in the middle of a dodgy time for the construction industry yet this bright spark, excuse the pun decides to come to Ireland because somehow he thinks he somehow has better skills and is a nicer guy than the 50 odd thousand sparkies on the dole?

    Come off it Stephen. Seriously…

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    Mute Sally Song
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    Nov 12th 2014, 6:59 AM

    Agreed Isabelle

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    Mute Stephen Mc Elligott
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    Nov 12th 2014, 8:14 AM

    Well of course they give back loads, they are ALLOWED to work the asylum seekers are not allowed to work for up to 14 years so how can they give anything? It’s not their fault the government spend so much on them. If the government made the direct provision a lot less than 14 years we wouldn’t be seeing the amount of tax payers money being thrown out the window and these people could go back to work. As for the electrician you’ve no idea why he left Africa.

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    Mute Anthony Carroll
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    Nov 12th 2014, 8:50 AM

    I’m pretty sure a lot of countries did have that attitude to the irish, sure look at America back in the days of slavery, irish, black, and Chinese people were used for cheap, cheap labour

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Nov 12th 2014, 8:54 AM

    Stephen 14 years is disgusting. I said it prior to this that quicker process times are the order of the day. I think you are very naive if you think that Ireland and other countries can somehow let everyone in.

    Do you understand that we cannot open our borders up to the continent of Africa and the middle east?
    Do you also understand that the majority of people that would be let in in the point you put would further tot up the already large live register figures?
    We cannot tackle the problems of the world in Ireland and Europe. Stephen it is not that I don’t care but there is a whole generation of Irish people that had to emigrate because of the downturn here and there isn’t a word about them..

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    Mute Barry O Donovan
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    Nov 12th 2014, 10:21 AM

    Yes, but we were allowed to work. Big difference

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    Mute PicassoRepublic
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    Nov 12th 2014, 10:37 AM

    @Barry,

    Not quite correct – any Irish person could not simply decide to go to Australia or Canada and work – Irish emigrants need visas, work permits etc.

    Economic migrants need permission from the host country – these people are trying to push their way through the door.

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    Mute Barry O Donovan
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    Nov 12th 2014, 10:44 AM

    @picasso As a returned emigrant from Canada I’m totally aware of the visa process. I was referring to all the irish emigrants who left when visas weren’t an issue and due to the previous comment that the Irish never got handouts and had to work for everything.

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    Mute Ciarán Masterson
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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:23 PM

    Thanks Pól.

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    Mute Gerard Carey
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:29 PM

    The DP centre in clondalkin was once a fine hotel. They cant be that poor,the car park is always full. If they dont like it here the M1 goes to the airport. They are here to play the system. The free house,medical,irish passport etc etc. Pure scammers. They have cost us billions.

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:01 PM

    After reading the article I see a women in the first photo that is perhaps living on around e20 per week and e10 for each child. She doesn’t have to pay for a mortgage, rent, utilities, meals etc. She has what looks like an expensive fur coat, designer glasses and ring. Where is she getting the money to buy these things?

    There are plenty of Irish, European and Non European families that are absolutely at the end of their wits paying for their bills and an government charges/levies that would love to have e20-50 at the end of each week. 8 years is an absolute disgrace though to be stuck in limbo.

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    Mute David Burke
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:45 PM

    2 Euro for cheap plastic sunglasses and maybe 15 for the coat in a charity shop. Or am I missing something?

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    Mute Orange Order Loyal
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:07 PM

    Coat isn’t fur for sure anyway! Knockoff!

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:15 AM

    I would say there are plenty of women that would love to know where this woman got her apparel for the guts of e17. Sounds like a bargain don’t you think David?

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    Nov 12th 2014, 1:38 AM

    https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fie.linkedin.com%2Fpub%2Fpaul-haran%2F3%2F854%2F760&ei=I7hiVKiGI6LW7Qahh4GYDQ&usg=AFQjCNE294LxeYGPAHwBxxSxEY02U4cs1g&sig2=rHAy4Kg4G9YawIJJvmPElw

    you might have missed this profile David – just to keep you up to speed on the general scheme of things ! It’s topically newsworthy today so I post for educational purposes !

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    Mute terrence
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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:12 AM

    I’m really getting tired of all this, please allow me to comment as someone that has worked for 12 years in Africa:

    1. Racism is a two way street, as a “white man”, living , working , and paying taxes in Africa you soon realise what racism is , but if you called an African a racist they would just laugh and say “you are white, I am black , we will never be the same and we don’t want to be the same as you white people”

    2. yes there are huge injustices happening all over Africa mainly because of corrupt governments but from my experience anyone that can afford an intercontinental flight from a country where the average working wage is 30-40 euros per month is not the person that is suffering and needs genuine help.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 11:27 AM

    ‘In 20 years time Direct Provision centres will be our Magdalene Laundries’???

    Not if we shut them down, send the tenants back home an tigten up our immigration/asylum policies.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 11:44 AM

    €150 million spent each year on direct provision and god only knows what is spent on Irish government donations to mineral wealthy “3rd World” countries with corrupt governments.
    That money used sparingly would save a lot of the 140,000 native Irish families in mortgage arrears/100′s of thousands of native Irish families in mortgage distress keep a roof over their head.
    Did anyone do a article comparing a direct provision hostel to the homeless hostels that taxpaying evictees are expected to live in?
    It would be an interesting comparison?

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    Mute Lasair Aireáinnach
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    Nov 12th 2014, 1:42 PM

    Here another attempt to construct ideas/themes/words that emotionally blackmail & manipulate feelings of guilt/shame/fear in the Irish people to bully them into silence and thus step by guilt-tripped step, wedge in mass immigration/asylum agendas and policies.

    We have heard the ultra-leftist guilt manipulation labels and smears, designed to make the Irish guilty or manipulate feelings of sympathy or fear to speak out against such mass asylum or mass immigration policies, all attempts to shut you up, to shame you into silence, to make you fearful of losing your job, career, livelihood and family, so that these policies can be forced through without opposition:
    Racist, bigot, uneducated, fascist, knuckledraggers, BNP supporter, “no blacks no dogs no Irish signs” sympathy mantra, Nazi

    the latest emtional manipulation mantra/label is Magdalene laundries.
    ‘In 20 years time Direct Provision centres will be our Magdalene Laundries’

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    Mute Dave Obreen
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    Nov 12th 2014, 5:42 PM

    Where is Marine Le Pen when you need her .

    These are the kind of politicians we need here in Ireland .

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    Mute Kris Morephy
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:03 PM

    I agree with the context of the article that direct provisions isn’t good. We should move to the Austrialian model where they are deported on arrival.

    Or maybe the UK model where they are kept in a detention centre?

    Like I mean, seriously people. Food, clothes, warm place to stay, free health care but apparently that’s not good enough.

    That been said any sub standard direct provision centres should be closed.

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    Mute KeiKe
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:14 PM

    Says yer one in the first photo with her fur coat and fancy shades on a cloudy day…give me a break if you don’t like it go back..or go back to a country nearer to your homeland that will take u in as refugees, oh sorry the benefits wouldn’t be the same.

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    Mute Kris Morephy
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:15 PM

    If the asylum seekers aren’t happy with free meals, clothing, health care, accomodation, education for their children and personal development for themselves, free transport then maybe we should move to the Australian or UK model?

    Deportation on arrival or locked up in a dentention centre because that’s what the UK are doing and we don’t see weekly stories like this from there.

    The only reason some people are in these centres for years is because they keep appealing the decision to be denied the right to stay.

    That being said any sub standard accomdation should be closed down. I believe the one with mobile homes in the Midlands is a complete hole.

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    Mute Ciarán Masterson
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:16 PM

    Why didn’t these asylum seekers go to other countries in the continents they came from – Africa and Asia – instead of travelling to Ireland?

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    Mute Stephen Doyle
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:18 PM

    Because there’s big signs in their countries saying Ireland is a soft touch and we are all mugs

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    Mute Scarr
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:36 PM

    Takes 12 weeks to process an application. 12 weeks. Just let that sit there.

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    Mute Plantation Watch
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    Nov 12th 2014, 9:33 AM

    Say to no to the journal.ies campaign of amnesty.

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    Mute Stephen Doyle
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:17 PM

    Close them down and send them home. Problem sorted

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    Mute Alan Ball
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:01 PM

    Seriously…If they are disappointed with the handouts in this country,why don’t they compare them to the other countries that provide handouts to people who run away from the problems of their countries of birth.How much do they feel they should get from the taxpayers of the country the choose to run away too? Do they really feel that as they abandoned their countries of birth to come to live in places like Ireland that they have a right to demand what they get for free. Why do they not go home to the countries they abandoned and the people they left to fight on their behalf to achieve what other countries have.Political refugees are one thing.Self interested scabs are another.They produce stories that are virtually impossible to prove to claim persecution in their home countries and then bitch about how bad it is here. Go home…If it is that bad… go home… Ye are cowards and scabs.

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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:35 PM

    Big yawn …..

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    Nov 12th 2014, 8:58 AM

    Great to hear a councillor speaking up about this. I honestly hope nobody here ever has to experience the conditions of a DP centre as part of their daily life. It’s so easy to blame our troubles on someone seeking asylum, and not those in actual positions of abusive power.

    “Three hot meals a day, warmth, and shelter?” That gives the impression that these people are in some sort of luxury. DP centres are not at all safe, they are notoriously horrible places to be, and families are confined to one room. Think about how it might feel to experience that with your family for a week, never mind years. Mental health problems are rife, and people are not legally allowed to work.

    Of course many many people here work hard and there is a huge problem with homelessness, so why not seek at least a basically decent living standard for everyone?

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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:42 PM

    Under international law asylum seekers have to seek asylum in the first country they arrive in. There is no direct flights from Nigeria to Dublin so they have broken the law and should be refused entry at the airport and put on a return flight from where they came from

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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:21 PM

    I witnessed a deportation some year’s ago, And it wasn’t in the middle of the night but the morning time,There was no sirens blaring or people lead out in handcuffs.
    It was done with the GNIB in plain clothes and unmarked vehicle’s, Also there is hardly any flights that depart Dublin airport at night time.

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    Mute Pól Mag Shamhrain
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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:48 PM

    The big problem I have with this is that many parents sent their young daughters to the Magdalene laundries to get an education. When the child got there they were effectively cut off from the outside world and were put to work. There are generations of women that are owed money from the work that they did in state/religious homes. A lot of children were put in these homes because one of their parents died or left their father or mother.

    When someone comes here to seek asylum they come “supposedly” because of intolerance, abuse, violence, war, hunger etc etc etc. They come here. Nobody has put them in this situation. They chose to come here. What is needed is a quicker process. Allow them into asylum, process them and give them a result quicker. It’s almost shameful the way the darker days of Irish society are being used against our laws…

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    Nov 12th 2014, 6:57 AM

    Pol, you need to research why women were dumped in the laundries a little bit better!

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    Nov 12th 2014, 9:00 AM

    What sort of choice is fleeing from abuse or terror?

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    Nov 12th 2014, 10:41 AM

    @ Iain Oh – tell me of the terror of a business visa expiring in the UK (as in the Pamela case) – in many cases the terror is invented for the interviews and courts – in her case the female circumcision story and death of a daughter was invented, there had been no daughter, the documents were proven as forgeries – I would see her as typical of what we are dealing with.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 9:52 PM

    Naturally somebody who acts like this should be dealt with by the court of law appropriately.

    “I would see her as typical of what we are dealing with”. There is no evidence to suggest that ALL people seeking asylum behave like this, and until there is, I’ll stand by my views.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 1:14 AM

    I don’t understand how you could be in such danger but your family is fine. It was same on tv3 documentary. Man here for 2 years. Kids and wife at home. How are they safe and he’s not. Maybe I’m missing something.
    I also find it strange that if you’re coming from very bad circumstances that according to the fella in article all they have to be worried about is getting new runners, laptops and phones. And engage in illegal activity to “survive”.eh they are getting all they need to survive already. That’s illegal activity for luxury items. I could understand crime to survive., not for wants. That doesn’t bode well for future if given status.i want loads of things too. I’m not resorting to crime for it. They get food and shelter.no bills. What would someone need to prostitute for. It’s not a good start in my book. If you can’t respect law while application is pending. Will they if approved.

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    Mute PicassoRepublic
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    Nov 12th 2014, 9:15 AM

    €500M in direct remittances from Ireland to Nigeria last year from a population of sub 9000 (incl children) – so that’s €55K sent via Western Union etc for every man woman and child in the country and alarm bells aren’t ringing re crime.

    But the ICI and their D4 and Political friends don’t let us ask these kinds of questions.

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    Mute fuve
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:45 PM

    Not to be mean to genuine decent people. Because they don’t be out whining. Loads of people I know in direct provision are happy with their lot and thankful for the smallest things. Our own college students can barely eat or pay for heating electric etc.. so mind my manners. Feck off with your poor me shi*e. I can barely live as a working tax payer SBD you lot get for free. Get a but if gratitude. And when your appeals dail leave or shut it.

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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:39 PM

    I don’t have a problem with the direct provision arrangements…. I do, however, have a problem with someone being on it for 10 years… both from a personal quality of life point of view for the claimant and from an expenditure point of view for the government.

    So – hire more investigators and get the decisions made within a few weeks of the applications. If in favour, then let them work or train or sit on the dole like Irish people. If not, then fire their ass onto a plane back home immediately.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:24 AM

    The decision *is* made usually within 12 weeks.

    It is the appeal after appeal when the decision to refuse is declared that takes years.
    So it’s not the system, it is the abuse of the system by wiley applicants.

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    Mute PicassoRepublic
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    Nov 12th 2014, 9:10 AM

    AND their lawyers……………..remember we pay for both the prosecution and the defence.

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    Mute neimad
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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:53 PM

    Fur coat and sunglasses, tired of this life… a classic.

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    Mute FMan
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    Nov 12th 2014, 7:20 AM

    Africa’s population growth is phenomenal at present without an equivalent economic growth so the numbers arriving in Europe is only going to grow further. You are seeing the future.

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    Mute My Asset Colum
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    Nov 12th 2014, 8:41 AM

    These people are here for one thing and one thing only….BENEFITS

    If they actually feared for their lives they would have made refugee in the first safe country they got to

    Not travel across 15 countries to get to our little Island

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    Nov 12th 2014, 7:48 AM

    organise flights home for them all….problem solved

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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:56 PM

    The report says there are 4,300 in the centres. How many are here above say three years? In the name of fairness those above three years should be given full citizenship provided it can be ascertained that they have no criminal record.

    The people processing the claims should have ample time inside 36 months to give these folk a decision either-way with only one chance of appeal. God knows the people processing the claims are paid well enough with a pension to boot into the bargain, time they started earning their crust.

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    Mute Andrea Rock Massey
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:08 PM

    It’s actually the appeals that keeps them here in limbo. An application is processed and asylum is refused. The applicant lodges an appeal, that is also refused, then another appeal is lodged in a child’s name, that is refused, then in another child’s name and so on and so forth. Without the ridiculous appeals (which don’t happen in other countries), the vast majority of these people would be deported within a year.

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    Mute SeanieRyan
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:29 PM

    In the interests of fairness give them 10k and a free flight home.

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    Mute Andrea Rock Massey
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:33 PM

    10k for what exactly?

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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:32 PM

    3k would do it, weren’t they offering that one time to go home? i’m sure there was something about that, either here or UK. See Norway are now forcing them back, tough s***, home ye go. The haven’t a clue here. Norway, backward state? Nah, priorities in there.

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    Mute neimad
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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:13 AM

    They give them their train fair in Italy to get to Germany or Sweden.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:32 AM

    Out of that 4300 how many passed through another country before arriving to Ireland. They are meant to seek asylum in the 1st country they land in after leaving their home country in 90% of the cases that isn’t Ireland.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 7:46 AM

    This is it Karen. Ive never heard a sound reason.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 7:49 AM

    That’s not actually true any more. The EU country responsible for the application is the one where either they first apply for asylum or where they are first fingerprinted.

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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:17 PM

    Wow what has happened to christian compassion and charity? These people are coming here from situations none of us can even comprehend never mind ever experience. It has become fashionable to cry poverty and demand the Irish look after themselves. Then the same people stand in solidarity with farmers who inherited their farms recieving millions and millions a year in subsidies. The boarding school i went to was full of farmers kids, the same with college. Yet ye deny these abused people a safe refuge? Who cares if Ireland is not their first port of call. Atleast they have a chance of a life here and not in some ghetto of london or paris. It is racist whether any of you want to admit it or not. It is because they are black africans. The white south africans dont have this problem. Shame on you, shame on you all.

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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:31 PM

    I am sick of people being branded racist, personally I couldn’t careless whether these people are black or white.
    the fact is most of them are taking the piss. no woman who was living in fear would leave her children in that situation. more likely she spent ten thousand getting here believing she would recoup that in a few months and then get the irish taxpayer to bring her husband and children here and house and feed them.
    I don’t even blame these people, why wouldn’t they come here, its the irish government I blame for not having the proper checks to either immediately deport anybody here illegaly or deal with their case within a month of arrival

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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:40 PM

    So the bank broke data protection laws to tell a third party security gaurd her nationality? Riiight, coz that happened! Pull the other one. Get a grip, you are a racist. Poor you are the victim in all this. I suppose you have more anecdotal evidence of no bread in the press for your kids on your measly dole? We irish love to play the victim and poor mouth. One thing people on the dole can always afford is alcohol and 100 fags a week. Fluff off.

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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:55 PM

    That was in response to mrmeade

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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:49 PM

    The nuns buried compassion …..

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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:24 AM

    How do you know where they are coming from? They have all been found to be bogus. In fact these people are the ones clogging the system for genuine cases. These people are the lowest of the low. All they want os a European passport and welfare. They have all invested money to travel here to get it.

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    Mute Lasair Aireáinnach
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    Nov 12th 2014, 2:02 PM

    €637 million in foreign aid a year to the 3rd world, not including Irish donations to charity. Billions in aid given to the 3rd world over decades. Millions in hours of volunteer work for the 3rd world.
    What is the thanks we get? People like Praise Hope asks
    “Wow what has happened to christian compassion and charity?” And calls us racist.

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    Mute My Asset Colum
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    Nov 12th 2014, 8:43 AM

    These people offer us nothing

    It’s all want and give nothing back in return

    Benefit grabbing parasites is all they are, deport them now it’s only common sense

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    Mute neimad
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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:22 AM

    Well if they want to work then set up the laundries again, thats the gist that I’m getting from this article.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 2:31 PM

    the ecoonic problems we have are bad enough but the social problems we will have in the future
    as a result of the arrival of tens of thousands of Nigerians , Somalis , Pakistanis etc wiil turn parts of our country into the disaster areas to be found all over Britian , with our own people who have left being replaced by the above I really fear for the future of Ireland , when I see burkas on the streets it really is a sign that we are not in control of our destiny

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    Nov 12th 2014, 10:24 AM

    It’s simple to resolve, allow refugees to work and contribute to society while having a ban on all social welfare and housing for a period of 3-5 years. Those who want a normal life will stay and the welfare tourists can get a flight to england

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    Mute Lasair Aireáinnach
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    Nov 12th 2014, 1:51 PM

    If you want to enact policies which any populace anywhere would find disagreeable, use the following shutting up, guilt-tripping or sympathy-provoking words:

    Racist, bigot, Nazi, uneducated, fascist, knuckledraggers,

    BNP supporter, “no blacks no dogs no Irish signs” sympathy mantra,

    Magdalene launderies guilt/sympathy inducing mantra.

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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:18 PM

    Well said Councillor Timmons.who can live on 19Euro a week !!!!

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    Mute SeanieRyan
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:29 PM

    With boarding and lodgings provided.

    Why is 19 euro even given?

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    Mute Lasair Aireáinnach
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    Nov 12th 2014, 2:06 PM

    3 meals a day
    Electricity paid
    Heating paid
    Shelter paid
    Internet paid

    There are Irish families having to choose between the heating and food each day. Irish homeless dying from exposure. Irish people committing suicide because of the daily struggle. Time we looked after the people of this country.

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    Nov 11th 2014, 9:39 PM

    What a disgrace! :-SS

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    Mute Praise Hope
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    Nov 11th 2014, 10:54 PM

    The same people whingin about iphone joans comments now claim the woman in the first photo can afford fur and chanel. The hypocracy astounds me. Ye same people would have stood by as the holocaust happened and cheered. Really should not suprise me in liberal pro abort Ireland.

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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:25 PM

    @Praise Hope

    “Ye same people would have stood by as the holocaust happened and cheered.”

    Ah now, get a grip. World War Two ended nearly 70 years ago. These asylum seekers could have gone to other countries in Africa or Asia instead of Europe.

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    Nov 11th 2014, 11:46 PM

    A little more more “pro-abort” support on the part of some asylum seekers would be no harm. Definitely would speed up the processing if they were not allowed register Irish babies.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 12:20 AM

    Oh sweet Jesus, now the holocaust is being brought into the debate !

    Godwin’s Law is never far away.

    Stick to the facts please;

    1-surely those ‘fleeing’ persecution would go to the nearest point of relief, not overfly 6 countries to a strange culture and climate.

    2-anyone arriving here seeking asylum needs to have their story fully verified because generally they arrive with no documentation. This takes time and money ( your money !)

    3-typically the first decision is made within 12 weeks.

    4-if the applicant is refused and lodges an appeal this is placed in the queue and is heard in due course which takes many months.

    5-many asylum seekers will have babies or arrive here pregnant still thinking that an ‘Irish baby’ gives the child citizenship and the parents can stay to raise the ‘Irish’ child. This is not the law anymore. However having a child and sending it to school etc knits them into the local community thus strengthening their case when appeal no. 1 comes round.

    6-if their first appeal fails, an immediate 2nd appeal is lodged and so on it goes.

    This system is/was being abused in many countries and they have now taken many actions to close it down, whole Ireland still suffers with the liberal soft touch (naive?) section of society who would welcome many more immigrants in while our country and many of it’s citizens struggle.

    The time has come to stop this asylum process altogether until conditions improve here.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 1:54 AM

    Stick to the facts ye tell me!? Take a bit of your own advice and stop spouting utter lies like “its a known fact these are all frauds” etc etc. All ye dole lifers are terrified a euro might be knocked off yer dole to give to them whereas they know more about a hard days work than ye ever will. Pure greed and racism. Dont know why ye bother pretend its not.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 2:45 AM

    Oh you don’t like it when people put all asylum seekers as fraudsters. But its ok for you to put all dole recipients as scroungers. You’re full of s**t praise hope. What have you against farmers. Are they not entitled to a livelihood? Who’s going to feed all the immigrants you want let in. And in your statement you basically stated what everyone else was saying. They’re shopping round for best countries. Not just reaching safety.sounds like economic migrants to me. Every one of them is hindering real genuine cases.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 4:03 AM

    @praise hope get real Ya muppet

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    Nov 12th 2014, 3:17 AM

    The asylum seekers with families should be giving council houses on arrival and the single people should be giving money to rent privately then problem solved,

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    Nov 12th 2014, 8:01 AM

    Jack back when asylum seekers began to come to Ireland in numbers that is exactly what happened. However the numbers grew so large that private rented accommodation could not cope. It was also hugely expensive. Moreover all asylum seekers wanted to stay primarily in Dublin but could not be accommodated. It was the role of the Dept of the Environment to house them. When that Dept simply couldn’t cope the Dept of Justice took over and established the DP system. Combined with other measures such as no social welfare or rent allowance asylum numbers began to drop. These measures also included the referendum on Irish Born Children. One of the reasons that we have a large African community in Ireland from a Zero base is because so many of them received an amnesty based on an Irish born child. They then applied to bring in members of their families under family reunification entitlements and did so. Every asylum seeker once granted refugee status can do the same. How long is a piece of string? Most refugees are relatively low skilled or have skills that are not saleable. They compete with similarly skilled Irish and EU citizens for jobs not with the better qualified or better off. Asylum shopping is a fact of life.

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    Nov 12th 2014, 1:05 PM

    mmmm eat and sleep !

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    Nov 17th 2014, 2:12 PM

    Why does the tax payer have to pay for ‘Asylum seekers’ from non EU citizens who come from countries where there is no official war status….we have over 4,000 people living bill free in hotels, food + accom paid for, whilst Irish actually go homeless. nothing to do with racism. purely economics. we need to sort out those people first domestically before we let others come through to hit the welfare system. 35-50% of ALL earnings go to Tax here, then within the tax base in Ireland, nearly 40% of it is put back into welfare/those out of work maybe i should post in a different forum, but I’m puzzled as to why Were being brainwashed + made feel guilty over other countries issues, in our country, Magdelene Laundries is a real blemish on our past, but is DP as bad? In my view the Irish tax payer should take care of families like these FIRST, these parents parents (!) paid tax all their lives, into our system, so they should receive support, why does so much of our tax go to say – Nigerians in assylum when there is no conflict in that country? it’s a load of BS – it’s simple economics that’s driving distrust of the EU immigration policy ( that noone voted for here ) , see these poor people, I wish we could pump the money that DP absorbs out to local, irish indigenous situations http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/parents-of-disabled-boys-face-eviction-from-co-laois-home-1.2003956

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