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THE ONGOING CRISIS in Iraq is an example of why “nation building”, “democratisation” and western interventionist policies generally have exacerbated existing conflicts in the Middle East. The situation in Iraq can trace its origins to the American invasion of 2003. By removing Saddam Hussein, who had through his despotic policies kept Sunni and Shia religious extremists suppressed, the American coalition opened the Pandora’s box of toxic religious and ethnic conflict in Iraq. Saddam was a despot, but the alternative to his regime has proved to be far worse.
Over 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died since the American invasion, and that number is growing every day. Meanwhile, the country is coming apart, as Sunni Arabs, marginalised by the new ruling Shia majority, have turned to fanatics like ISIS, who seek to form a new “Caliphate” straddling Iraq and Syria. The Shia Arabs, who form the majority of Iraq’s population, have turned to hardline clerics like Muqtada al-Sadr and foreign backers like Iran, forming haphazard militias to fight ISIS. Meanwhile in the north, the breakaway Kurdish government has used the chaos to seize territory and cement its independence.
In the middle of all of this, America is sending advisors and troops back to Iraq, less than three years after they pulled out. Renewed intervention, whether by airstrikes or by “boots on the ground” is not the answer. It did not work a decade ago, it will not work now. The Americans have no good options. If they back the Shia government then they will drive more Sunnis into the arms of ISIS. If they try to force the Shia to accept Sunni participation they will have to fight the militias and maybe even Iran. If they look to the Kurds for support they will alienate both the Shia and the Sunni parts of Iraq’s population.
In addition to the multi-sided nature of the conflict, ISIS has integrated itself into the civilian population. The Iraqi government is already being accused of killing dozens of civilians while attempting to retaliate against ISIS through air strikes, and the increased firepower America can bring to bear will just increase the number of civilian casualties. Added to this, ISIS has a seemingly endless supply of suicide bombers who can attack on foot or by vehicle. Conventional military forces are very vulnerable to suicide tactics, as the American experience in Afghanistan and Iraq has proved. An opponent like ISIS, which has a strong core ideology to motivate its followers, and is willing to inflict civilian casualties in pursuit of its aims and to use civilians as human shields, simply cannot be defeated in the normal military sense of the world.
Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan all proved the same point; the American public strongly dislikes high casualties among their own troops and high civilian casualties among the people they are supposed to be protecting through military action. These are two very laudable traits, which have no doubt saved countless lives. They also make America almost incapable of defeating ISIS, who are well embedded in the Sunni Arab population, and will only become more so as American and Shia military action escalates. ISIS cannot be defeated without a high cost to its opponents, and a massive cost to the civilian population caught in the middle. In these circumstances, conventional military action by America, along the lines of their previous tactics in Iraq will be ineffective and may actually increase the power of ISIS by encouraging more Sunnis to join them.
Iraq is an artificial construct, a relic of the Middle East’s colonial past. Its constituent Sunni, Shia and Kurdish populations were always more inclined to go their own way, and were held together through dictatorship and force. The ongoing crisis is an inevitable consequence of Iraq’s haphazard formation, and cannot be stopped until all of the key players want it to stop. The Kurds have no wish to live under the rule of the Sunni or Shia Arabs. The Sunnis, being a minority, wish to break away from Shia domination, while the Shia government is essentially governing for a Shia state. Attempts to force Iraq back together through military force will simply prolong and intensify the crisis and bloodshed.
Iraq’s ultimate fate is uncertain. While it cannot continue as it is, it is unclear what the alternative is. A radical Sunni state comprising western Iraq and eastern Syria is unpalatable to most of the region’s other players, but the Sunni Arabs will require some form of self-determination to assuage some of their grievances. Likewise the Kurds will now demand more autonomy and maybe even full independence, while the Shia will look to exert their dominance over the areas where they are a majority. America cannot hope to solve this entanglement through force. Iran’s influence and proximity to Iraq, and America’s insistence on including the Sunnis and Kurds in a power-sharing government mean that Iran’s hold over the Shia government will increase as American involvement drags on.
The Iraq crisis is in Iran’s backyard, and the Iranians will take a leading role in trying to solve it. In many ways America has nothing to bring to the table, and Washington’s best strategy may be to stay out and let Iran, and Iraq’s other powerful neighbours like Turkey and Saudi Arabia take the lead in managing the crisis. They have more at stake, and they also have leverage over some of the key players that America simply does not have.
It is time for the Middle East’s main powers to step up, learn to work together and start healing their region’s many wounds. This new crisis in Iraq should be an opportunity for America to step back. American military force cannot improve the situation, and will only serve to make it worse. Let the lessons of the past decades finally be learned: it is time for America to stop trying to fix Iraq with force.
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Does this prove the accusation once made by the wife of a former US ambassador to Ireland who said that the Irish had “no sense of outrage”………………..
I think that quote was Churchills.
It was said by Elizabeth Shannon, wife of former US ambassador to Ireland, Bill Shannon, writing about her experiences here ;)
I believe she was quoting Churchill.
Outrage? About what? The government trying to reduce our deficit (and hence debt)? How dare they…
it’s more about the bank debt they took on with our money without our permission, using unjust tax increases to help pay it.
That was FF. and once you you agree to take on debt, you lose credibility (and hence borrowing power) if you default.
It only costs €3B to service anyway, what about the other €10B we throw at public sector, quangos, welfare etc?
Brian that was not FF it was the Bankers that control both FF and FG and the Labour party. They are still in control and require little drones like you to Blame welfare recipients and other easy targets that were created by the ruling elite in the first place.
Originally it was Churchill who said that we have no sense of outrage.
I always find it strange though that people are so absolute about this topic. Yes FF wrecked us but when you look at how FG are dealing with it all it’s hard to see that either of these parties are vote worthy.
And when you look at it that way – it’s not that terribly easy to see any other party that look all that credible. Labour certainly don’t.
Results like this say far more about the “cleanest dirty shirt” effect in that it seems more like those polled are being asked “if we put a gun to your head to vote – who would it be for?”
Personally, I can’t see anyone in my own constituency who really deserves a vote. Politicians are completely apathetic about it too. I’ve lived in the same house for over 8 years and have yet to have a politician canvas at my door. The most interesting conversation I’ve ever had at my door was with some people interested in checking in on my “relationship with Jesus”.
If we had a sense of outrage we’d demand more from the batch of chancers we have. Instead, when a group protests in this country, those with no interest in the particular topic on the table tend to just criticise – which only gives the politicians a chance to say that it’s not that big an issue.
I think kevin shaw has found a new name….brian o dea?
Albert Einstein
doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
@brian o dea……check your facts brian..interest payments on our debt are running at 1 billion per month…figures correct as of 2 weeks prior to this
@Brian O Dea
Brian,
You are wasting your time.
Many who leave comments seem to prefer throwaway negative remarks rather than trying to understand the serious situation the country is in.
Maybe sometimes its easier to be the hurler on the ditch.
We gave them permission. That’s the whole point. We elected them. We keep electing fools.
How come there’s always one to claim that anybody who doesn’t see things the FF/FG way is being “negative”?
Larry you are deluded if that’s what you really believe. The same disorder that afflicted Bertie Ahern, when he suggested that anybody questioning his insane policies was merely negative and asked why they didn’t just commit suicide. Good company eh?
Well it was either that or risk losing ur life savings. It was the better of two bad choices
Will Ireland ever learn??
And they want to change the voting system. Ha. :-D
It’s very clear now that they system is fine. It just that the voters are the problem. :-P
The union members on here are probably worrying about their entitlements looking at some of the comments.
fianna fael
Galactic,
nail on head
Will The Farmers ever learn.
The IBEC lackys on here are probably snorting the froth off the mochacinos and tossing off to Coleman/Harris in the Sindo!!!
The FG hacks are notably absent!
Sarca,
i like you more and more.
Vincent dolan is in therapy
Irish peoples stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
ff/fg = same right wing neocon shytes.
jimmy you’re a stalker, a nasty vicious one at that.
btw i’m from sw ireland.
i’m guessing that you are a free stater
Lads, can we keep it respectful please. If you’re not familiar with our comments policy, there’s a refresher here: http://www.thejournal.ie/comments-policy/
Sinead,
This psycho is following me around the journal being generally abusive.
Please do something about him.
Sorry Jimmy. I don’t mean to sound smart but I need to correct you. You were born in Ireland. There is no such country called “Republic of Ireland”. And don’t worry, you’re far from the only Irish person who doesn’t know the name of their own country. :-P
Sinead,
you are a hypocrite.
you remove a legitimate inoffensive comment i made about dublin on another thread and you allow this nasty stalker free rein to abuse.
Hi Sneachtaitall,
I’ve asked you both to keep it civil.
Thanks
Sinéad
Sinead,
Sorry that doesn’t cut it.
You remove inoffensive comments about dublin on another thread and you allow this guy to abuse.
Hi,
Where is the abuse?
Thanks
Sinéad
Sinead, there’s no abuse – you’re right.
Sneacht – you’re acting childish – try sending an email or using the “report as abuse button”. Then people don’t have to trawl through this rubbish in an effort to comment and read opinion on the story at hand.
@Galactic Overlord: The Republic of Ireland Act, 1948, says: “It is hereby declared that the description of the State shall be the Republic of Ireland.”
Therefore I believe I was born in and reside in the Republic of Ireland….
Snot Tail…seriously, no one is abusing you, I think you are being slightly paranoid….take a deep breath, relax, put on the kettle and sit back with the Sindo for the afternoon….it will do you good.
Jimmy, have a quick look at your passport, and if that isn’t enough, look are our legislation’s and treaties. Still not enough, ask the Supreme Court.
And for all you “red thumbs” out there, here are the official name’s of this country.
In irish – Éire
In English – Ireland
Have a nice day :-)
Galactic,
you’ll upset the fine gaelers.
You are absolutely right Galactic. And the Fine Gaelers are usually quite punctilious about the name of the State. It is the other guys who usually fail on this and on the language.
Ill stick with the Republic if Ireland Act 1948 if you don’t mind Galactic…it is after all correct.
Memories are very short in this country!!
Sure are.people seem to vote from one bunch of idiots to the other.
That really is scary
No sign of VD or Jeremy/Reg yet
eileen,
VD is all confused, he snogged a shinner last night.
i think he’s in the CMH getting electric shock therapy.
Their thumbs must be red raw!
Some endorsement of Kenny 2 years and he manages to bring FG to FF levels. Well done Enda epic fail.
If ever a country needed to be invaded, Ireland’s definitely up there!
Agree Kerry. Fgs biggest failing was two fold. A staggering lack of empathy and an inability to PR bad news.
@Simon
And the willingness to continue where FFailur left off.
Rodrigo,
We pretend we have nukes, get pics of our leaders standing alongside them. Say something nasty about the yanks.
Then we fly an aer lingus plane in to the white house.
The invasion will start soon after.
it has already happened rodrigo ,by criminals the ordinary people have no idea of the levels of looting and criminal activity that has and still is taking place in this country by members of the goverment and civil servants and votes for FF FG LAB condone these practices .
We’ve already been invaded. They’re called Europeans. They’re taking our natural assets, like any conqueror, and they never even declared war on us. Our governments just give them whatever they ask for!
Genuinely can see no alternative option. Taking on the trades unions was about all and they have demonstrated they neither have the balls nor did they do it timely enough. Btw both your original and my response have been removed.
Basically, if there was an election tomorrow Enda would still be leader. I think that shows rational people understand the alternatives just aren’t there.
Brian, I expected your
comments to appear between the hours of 9:30am and 4:30pm Monday-Friday.
Brian, are you the new FG delicately and covertly watching the journal and interjecting with how great the government is?
Just doing a bit of work from home ;)
Ill get O/T for this, hopefully.
Brian, you look remarkably like our friend Vincent … sorry, I mean you sound like him. You look kinda er … Asian perhaps. Did you get your photo taken in Hong Kong or did you get it in party HQ? Anyway er… Brian you could earn some extra cash by double jobbing, working for Fine Gael AND Fianna Fáil as their policies are exactly the same.
I wouldn’t be typing that sort of thing on a public forum if I were you..even if it was sarcasm…
Maybe that was in the small print also!
Ireland needs to “find” vast deposits of valuable ores and rare earths and then sit back and wait for the boatloads of Chinese money to arrive. Or perhaps not.
Come on people its time for change. I voted ff all my life but now I see them & fg as the reason for hardship in Ireland. If they form a government again they will never understand what they did to us. We need new politics in Ireland & voting fg ff lb is not inspiring new parties to form.
It’s the same way of voting since the foundation of the republic. FF screw up, FG/Lapdog get voted in out of anger and before you know it FF are back in power to screw up again. It will never end because half of the Irish electorate are too brain dead to think.
Libertas were the answer. A government reducing, liberty increasing libertarian party. But no, the brave Irish voter saw fit to continue with the same knowns.
Looks like the unions are getting worried!
@ Jason
The same thing happens in the UK. Labour destroy the economy and then the Conservatives destroy it even more when trying to fix it. And then Labour are back and sorry for what happened before. It goes on and on.
… http://youtu.be/CWMSF60vtpk < The Neverending Story.
@Jason – to be fair – maybe the other half should be demanding more?
Sure we act like the only thing we can do is change our vote – but as you’ve described, that just results in flip/flop of the main parties and no reasonable change…
And Australia.
And America
And…..
more and more and more…..
Brendan. What you say has an element of truth, however, do you really think the nonsense a d downright criminality that goes on here would be tolerated in the UK? Can you imagine Bertie Ahern telling outright barefaced lies to a tribunal in the UK, then still be allowed to stay in power? I’m not saying their systems perfect by any means, but at least they have a general public and a media that holds politicians accountable for their actions.
Time get out of here, at the rate of emigration the only ones left in the country will be those that are too old to leave, can’t afford to leave and the ones that are thick enough to vote FF again.
I agree Rodrigo. The British have a lot of systems that I like. And the British media is in a different league to the Irish media. And Bertie Ahern would have resigned a lot quicker if he were the British leader because of all the pressure from the media and people in general. And a proper investigating would have taken place.
Check this out. A famous shady politician:
… http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17387883 <
… http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/23/us/rod-blagojevich-fast-facts <
And I thought Democrats were the good guys and girls…..
in·ves·ti·ga·tion
If only we had a country full of Jason Culligans
That’s because Libertas looked too much like Nazi’s riding the populist wave Brian. They were never credible
Once again Paddy confirms to the world he is as thick as the stereotype.
As long as Paddy has his football/rugby, Guinness and cabbage sandwiches he’s as happy as a pig in sh!t and does’nt care who’s in charge of him.
lmao bobbie
That’s the ff/fg/lab voter down to a tee.
Well put Bobbie, this is just the two arse cheeks wobbling back into place.
Jesus wept. We moan and whine about the state of the country and then you see those 2 topping the polls. Maybe stereotypes are true – maybe we are a nation of thick Micks. This country will never be anything and you can’t blame the politicians, it’s the citizens of the country who vote them in. We’re a hopeless case.
It’s people like you that allow them to stay in. You whine about no alternative yet don’t run yourself or set up or support a new party. You don’t have alternative to the budget deficit reductions but are happy to moan about those that try and tackle them.
Brian, that’s a really really short sighted comment…. pretty pathetic really.
Actually, we are “moaning” about the people who created the deficits and whose plan for reducing the deficits is typically obtuse but certain to involve no pain for themselves or their buddies.
I do think people of Meath deserve a special thick paddy award. Imagine they had a real choice 11 candidates and ff and FG topped the pole with pointless party hacks!!
The memory of a goldfish, that’s what we have in this country. No, wait…that’s an insult to goldfish.
When the country was going down the tubes and FF were imploding what did we hear from them? Only concern for “the good of the party” and not one word about the good of the country or the people.
Cute whoorism and you-scratch-my-back-and-I’ll-scratch-yours are alive and well, I see.
FG/FF coalition of the skimming nailed on to be next off the Irish centre-right electoral roundabout….alot of sadmachistic sheeple out there in the now land of spivs and squalor!!
And how will this change?
I don’t mean this to be cheeky but I’m wondering who you see as being worthy of a vote? IMO until the voting public pull the rug out from under the apathy of politicians there will be very few in the country who deserve a vote.
“coalition of the skimming”
love it
lmao
*masochistic even!
Perhaps what Mary means by the “good of the people” is that we keep borrowing more money to pay child benefit and other forms of entitlement spending. We should be getting people back to work.
FF were a great bunch of lads. Remember the night Cowen gave 3 ministerial posts to each TD to try and stay in government.
What a joke they were!!
We need another party me thinks!!
Aww yes now the Irish people know that F.G & F.F are two cheeks of the same Ass
So who’s the Cock in all this?
The people
I’d say Labour….
You’d have to be brain dead to vote for F.F. Or F.G .. Labour have betrayed the people they’ll go hide in a corner like the greens and reap all there pension rewards .
Direct Democracy is the new party…
If you want to make real change its get elected
There is a legal challenge to property tax
Attack the tax
Free meeting
Whitehall Gales GAA
Collins Ave
Next thurs
7-9
New political parties are overdue!
All very well except that the new parties that we have seen over the last number of years haven’t exactly covered themselves in glory either, Greens, PD’s, Democratic Left, Socialist Party…………..
It doesn’t matter who is on government. They’re all as bad and as corrupt as each other. Listening to the news this week I was disgusted. All of them arguing that this fella said this in 2010 and this fella said that in 2007. We have people being let go from jobs / signing on every day of the week along with families being thrown out of their homes yet the idiots in the dail are more worried about what their opposition members said 6 years ago? It’s a disgrace! Long gone are politicians who actually give a sh*t about the people! The people who pay their ridiculous wages, their 3 assistants. Their flights to different countries, 5 star hotels, 1st class flights etc. it’s sickening!
Fianna Fáil and the Shinners will be in next!!
FG have to wake up now and realise that their approach to politics is hated by the majority of reasonable people. They have failed to live up to their promises of a better approach to politics.
Agree with you that their politics are a failure. Don’t agree that the people hate it, support for FF is support for the same old politics. The peasants love this stuff, now they just want it in green instead of blue.
I’d like to see Pearse Doherty get a chance as the next Taoiseach, leading SF. Gerry Adams has too much baggage. I think Pearse deserves a chance.. He seems like a decent bloke..
Joan your having a laugh……Pearce Doherty for Taoiseach ? He’s just a “jump on the bandwagon merchant ” who tells people like you what you want to hear!
“jump on the bandwagon merchant ”
Actually, pat rabbite admitted to that on live tv. Enda kenny and mickey martin are guilty of this too.
You need to take the blinkers off.
Totally agree with you Joan….out of all the “upcoming politicians” in any of the parties he appears the most in tune with what the public want and unlike the drivel on offer from FF/FG/Lab, he actually as some charisma, humility and a fresh approach to things….but the blind & stupid will vote in FF again!!
what imbecile would vote for Fianna Fail again just goes to show that parish pump politics are alive and well in this country we can only move on when we learn. we have to change the way politicians are utilised in this country local politicians should deal with local issues roads, lights etc if a politician is voted into the dail they deal with national issues nothing else this is the way it should be. part of the problem with the last administration was the government of the day needed the support of the likes of healy rae and lowry that only had their constituents interests at heart and not the nation as a whole so they would be voted in again and again so the nation suffered as a result, we have to change who we put in power to move on to repair and grow our nation
Paddy likes to have a new changing room and a pothole free car park at the local Gah club but can’t understand why all the players are in Australia. It’s hard to believe we’ve had universal free education for the last 50 years.
The definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over again, while expecting things to change.
irish people are insane
Fianna Fáil tied with Fine Gael????…..Wow Fianna Fáil have really slumped in the ratings!!
Irish amnesia reaches epidemic status.
Fianna Fáil and the shinners are in next!!
Definitely not, FF will be in next but who it will be with is up for debate.
FG then?
I’m not surprised. There’s a lot of cowardly traitors in Ireland to put it mildly.
Stupid fukking Irish!
Do something POSITIVE today, get out and march against austerity, corruption, this out of touch government and against the Property/Bondholder Tax and water tax …. Join one of the many marches today in towns and cities around Ireland. Dublin Says No protest march starts at 12, Central Bank, Dame Street, marching to Garden of Remembrance via O’Connell Street.
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx.
Look, there’s no point getting vexed over these polls. Everyone here knows there’s only way to understand what those numbers mean in a practical sense:
The Irish people think Fine Gael and Fianna Fail are both equally spineless, inept, and generally lacking vision. Basically, they’re both equally sh!t and even Mrs. Murphy down the road knows it.
You know, I would almost prefer Sinn Fein in power than these muppets..
Well this shouldnt really be a surprise,even though FF were 100 pc responsible for the disaster that befell the country,it was left to a group of school teachers and others to man the lifeboats and attempt a rescue, a big ask by any measure,but its just as well the Troika are in the driving seat and not the teachers, like the old saying goes, the attemped cure can very often be even more painfull than the desease.
Who else can you vote for? They are all cut from the same cloth. Liars. The next time I will vote is when there is a total clear out of all the bullsh1773rs and new blood steps up with new and modern ideas.
Away you go Gar. Why don’t you stand?
Be careful. FG now want to increase mortgage interest rates so that banks we rescued (with significant tax increases) can make more profits at our expense.
We the taxpayers have already rescued the banks, developers and builders at great cost to our families.
Now FG want to put more pressure on us to ensure banks can make profits.
The same banks we rescued from bankruptcy can then prosecute us if we don’t pay our mortgages in full! No relief! no sympathy!
No relief for home owners! How sad!
The Government is behaving like “Turkeys voting for Christmas”!
Not one developer, banker or builder have to date been prosecuted! Why?
I am sorry I did not emigrate years
Austerity is not the solution to economic problems created by FF.
150,000 good Irish people have emigrated in the last few years. How sad!
Many good people have sadly opted for suicide!
Unsecured bond holders have been paid in full by Irish Taxpayers because the Irish Government decided we the taxpayers should pay.
In Spain the Spanish Government converted all depositors on Bank Bankia into shares. The Spanish taxpayers did not rescue the Spanish banks!
The Irish Government should have converted all Bondholders in Irish Bank into Ordinary Shares.
Shame on Cowen and all TDs in his Government. Hang your head in shame!
Give back your pensions!
Is there any honesty in politics??
I thought FG would act honourably!
I have always voted because some of our ancestors died for us to have a vote. But until I see someone worth voting for I will be spoiling my vote for the foreseeable future. The system as well as the politicians failed the Irish People. What jobs have they created? 0
FG and labour continue to pacify us with their lies.
Personally I lost my job. Tried to start a business . Survived for 3yrs. Plenty of work but could not get paid in the 30days agreed. Asked the bank for an overdraft. I was offered have of what I needed so shut down in the end.
Now on a casual contract , no overtime, no holiday and earning less per hour than I got 16years ago when I started thanks to the euro change over!
Both FG and FF have the same political policies.
They should go into coalition and try to run the country in an honest way, if possible!
Long term FG and FF should unite and form one political party.
All future TDs should be asked to swear an oath that (they) TDs will not accept “bribes” for any political reason.
Legislation should also be introduced for mandatory jail sentences for any TD found guilty of taking a bribe or breaching legislation like fiddling expenses or filing false VAT Returns!
Such legislation should be Retro-actively dated for 5 years!
When is Enda going to hand over the Lowry tapes??
Can’t understand how the independents with the likes of looneys such as Wallace, Ming etc etc can command 21% of the vote! Time is up for this bunch of chancers!
Just paid my property tax as many will do this weekend, I paid 33.000 euro stamp duty in the day, borrowed money. So you can guess how I feel about Enda and his band of f**kwits.
I think we need a strong right wing in this country, we need balance between the people that do the paying and those that don’t. A Irish version of UKIP would be a party I would consider voting for. I voted for the half-wits now in power based on the lies they told, more fool me.
This is a very poor reflection on Fine Gael that they are now as popular as
Fianna Fail after only 27 months in office. How they managed to let a party
which faced extinction after the last general election back into the fray is mind boggling. At the rate they are going it could be Fine Gael which will face extinction after the next election.
They would do well to remember that they were elected to represent the Irish People. They are not representing The Troika. Sometimes I wonder they do realise this !!!!!
One word describes the Irish as a nation, idiotic! It was the same in the past, the same currently and the same in years to come! The only time there would ever be a revolution in Ireland is if drink was banned and the pubs closed!
A bit harsh calling a whole nation idiotic. Yes we voted FF but we have been continuously lied to by our elected politicians. Remember our elected Taoiseach response to warnings from Top Economists.
Go and commit suicide and stop talking us into a Recession.
I think you’ll find most pubs empty midweek now!
Perhaps not the whole nation but you certainly lived down to the stereotype DaMoose.
“Where the hell is this poll being carried out? An S&M parlor?” -Bill Hicks.
Yep, sounds right.
The people of this country are an absolute joke! I think ye are only happy when ye have something to bitch and moan about.
So that was the reason loopy leo came with his more jobs lies
The next election will see either ff or fg getting into power. The following election will be the same and so on. A new viable powerful alternative is not really on the cards as ordinary decent honest people are too busy trying to pay off mortgages and basically survive. the majority of us are in a debt prison.It’s a catch 22 really and the political status quo will continue. Then again there is always hope. At least they have not taxed hope yet!
Hard to believe that after all the suffering FF have inflicted on the people of Ireland there are fools out there who can’t wit to get another taste of this incompetent self serving bunch of traitors, where else in the world is corruption rewarded like this, only in Ireland, sickens me,
Where is the graphics
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