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TWO MEN WERE rescued from a capsized boat in Cork earlier this evening by naval personnel.
The incident occurred in the east of Cork Harbour shortly after 6pm.
The LÉ Niamh received a distress call from the vessel and dispatched a boat to the scene, where two men were discovered standing on top of the upturned craft.
Both were brought back to Haulbowline, but neither showed any signs of injury and were reportedly in “good spirits”.
The boat they had been travelling in was towed back to shore by the Crosshaven Lifeboat.
In a separate incident yesterday, two men died after they got into difficulty while diving off west Cork.
Also yesterday, four people were rescued from a single beach in Wicklow.
After one woman was swept into a cave and was rescued by the RNLI, three others who had come to her aid all needed assistance.
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Now ireland. Strike! French style!
What’s there salary does anyone know?
*their
Why does it matter?
Not near enough wages i would say Alan b..
They’re not striking over pay
Read the article Paul. It is nothing to do with money.
This strike has nothing to do with more money or less working hours. If you read the reasons why the strike is being proposed, it is to maintain a service that is already in place and has been for over 100 years.
While I think dfb are doing a good job outside the HSE, that fireman on room to improve last night did nothing to help the cause.
Paul Doyle. Wise up you fool.
Owen Keegan’s is €175k
It’s always, always about the money, they can say what they want to soften public opinion but it’s about money
What has that got to do with it I suppose your a government artist signing on!
Paul hard luck with your attempt to get into the fire brigade last time. Chin up and try again next time.
Seen him posting this kind of nonsense on a number of articles relating to this.
Paul Doyle, you’re very bitter chastising men and women who run into burning buildings to save lives. These people very much work in the real world. And its certainly not their fault you’re unhappy with how your lift turned out.
@Paul Doyle: Cardiac arrests, road traffic collisions, attempted suicides, assisting in the delivery of babies, shootings, stabbings, assaults… yeah, these men and women need to cop on and get a job in the real world. See how tough it really is.
@Paul Doyle: Why don’t you read the article?They’re all trained firefighters and Paramedics and Dublin City Council want to remove the Paramedic part of their job. Nothing to do with money, they don’t want the service downgraded. It wouldn’t have taken you too long to read the article and you’d have found this out yourself and not looked so foolish. Have a go at the Public Service where it’s deserved,,not these guys who risk life and limb to help us all,,,,,and guess what,,,they are also real taxpayers!
Well dublin bus got some dosh, the last comrades got alotta dosh, the guards got some dosh so we better get some. Let’s dress it up as concern for the
Frank. I think Paul is just trolling.
@Ger Murphy: Ger do yourself a favour and read the article before commenting again.
@Trevor Flanagan: It does when your intention is to portray them as greedy and overpaid for the job they do.
@oliverjumelle: It was quiet, when Labour were in Government and now everyone is striking?
@Dave O’Reilly
Suggest you read the article again – it has nothing to do with removing the paramedic part of their job, it centres on the despatch arrangements only.
Fed up with this propaganda from DFB. HSE ambulance staff have faced the same type of challenging incidents. What is being fought about here is a proposal to centralise all Medical emergencies to a single Command and Control Centre leaving the DFB centre to handle Fire calls only. The effect is to bring all Ambulances and Paramedics under a single call taking and dispatch centre. How does this not make sense?
The HSE couldn’t organise a piss up if they were locked in an off licence without a national scandal
@Tomred: What is being fought here is the splitting of the service for the purpose of privatising the Ambulance service.
Damning comment on the National Ambulance Service there and I did expect a deluge of red thumbs on my comment. If you are going to back any side in this dispute please inform yourself of all the facts. Do you feel that 2 Control Rooms are a solution?
Sorry Tom but I don’t agree. Why would it be privatised? Do you have supporting info? By the way and in order to clarify my situation..I do not work in the National Ambulance Service but I have experience of working in an Ambulance Control Room in the UK and am well familiar with best practice.
**Dave not Tom
Tom what is the staff turn over in the new call center in Tallaght? After call takers have been trained up, what percentage have been head hunted to sky and other similar call centres? They can’t hold onto the staff as it is in tallaght and they want to add upwards of 100k extra calls per annum. Best of luck
Heffo could it be that your view on this is somewhat partisan – in that you may have a personal association with DFB? Is this dispute then about a failure to hold onto staff in the HSE? A qualified EMC is internationally recognised and of little benefit to Sky or any other commercial enterprise. I am simply trying to make informed comment here without “what ifs” or affecting the hero status of Fire Service personnel above that of National Ambulance.
Tom, I think Heffo was in fact referring to the HSE as an agency’s inability to hold onto their staff. This is not about the ability of individuals to carry out a role. Ask any DFB member their opinion on a NAS frontline staff member, be it paramedic or control centre staff, and it will be one of respect and solidarity for the job they do. The issue here is that if the call taking and dispatching function is removed from DFB’s control then there will inherently be delays in appropriate responses to certain incidents as a result. That is not a matter of opinion, that is a fact. What use is one centralised control centre if that control centre can’t dispatch the appropriate, required response as quickly as possible? It doesn’t make sense. Don’t bring this down to an “us against them” issue. It is nothing of the sort.
That is indeed a matter of opinion Davey. The DCC review found the opposite – that having a fragmented control system led to avoidable delays in providing 999 responses to the public, with the nearest available ambulance frequently left sitting idle while another ambulance had to travel from much further away to attend the call.
http://www.nasra.ie/images/Dublin%20Ambulance%20Service%20Review.pdf
@Tomred:@Tomred:40% of calls dealt with nationally by DFB on 8% of the budget !- that’s what I call a value for money service, imagine the government conceded to HIQA requirements of 4 extra ambulances as outlined in 2014 report
Add the cost of the DFB budget onto that and the figures don’t look so good.
That budget is there either way. The fire engines have to be in place. Unless you think there won’t be fire engines turning out. The only extra cost is diesel and a bit of wear and tear.
@Steve Mackqueen:
Perhaps I should have been more specific – the ambulance component of the DFB budget.
@Tomred: Becuase it leaves the HSE in charge..
lets think about that for a second.
the HSE
the HSE couldnt find its own a*$e with 2 hands, a map, compass and someone pointing it out to them.
I wouldnt put HSE admin in charge of a paper bag
The HSE paramedics as with all of their frontline staff are to be admired, but their admin capabilities are an absolute thundering disgrace.
Fairplay to the firefighters enough is enough its about time someone stood up to this circus in Kildare Street
“He said that the fragmentation of this service would reduce the effectiveness of their service, lead to response time delays and expose the public to increased risk.”
Now would anyone who is a member of government, local government or even just a pen pusher listen to such sense…..
The ambulance service, the HSE side, is probably been earmarked for privatisation. Splitting the service is the precursor.
Spot on Dave.
The service has never lets the dubs down before so don’t touch it.
Dublin has one of the best pre-hospital cardiac arrest survival rates in the world. That is thanks to the fact that when you call 999 you’re likely to have an ambulance backed up by an all paramedic fire truck responding. Downgrading that service is nuts, cop on Dublin City Council and the HSE.
Not all calls to the 999 service are Cardiac arrests or indeed “clinical emergencies” and qualified Emergency Medical Controllers are capable of prioritising calls, allocating appropriate resources and providing holding advice to the caller. Centralising all of this has to make sense and it’s not a downgrading.
How many control centres does the HSE operate so?
14
Try again Cian
Totally agree. Imagine a control room so centralised it dispatches both fire and ambulance via an integrated system so in the event of a major incident we are all under the one control. If only that existed…. Oh wait it does…. and Owen Keegan and the HSE want to take it away.
*except it only covers some of the ambulances.
It’s nonsenical to have a taxpayer funded resource sitting idle whilst an identical resource is sent from much further away (with all the associated delays) purely because there’s no unified control centre.
@Paul Doyle.. Let me say this nice and simple for your simple mind.. IT.. IS.. NOT.. ABOUT.. WANTING.. MORE.. MONEY It is about keeping the ambulance within Dublin Fire brigade, here’s an example… If Paul Doyle has a heart attack in Dublin he will have between 6-8 Paramedics standing over him within 5 minutes of the initial call, If this service goes, Paulie will have 2 Paramedics standing over him, greatly improving the chance that Paulie will not make it, this is about saving lives and nothing else.
What would the other 4 paramedics be doing instead? I haven’t heard of any redundancies …only integrated control.
Clearly it makes no sense having 2 dispatch mechanisms
Absolutely it makes no sense having two dispatch mechanisms. That’s why DFB operate an integrated fire and ambulance dispatch system that allows for a single command and control in the event of a major incident. The HSE system means there will be no communication between the emergency services and you now have a control room in tallaght with massive staff turnover that is struggling to operate at it’s current capacity let alone with 115000 extra calls. Oh and of course there is the “backup” call centre in Donegal (that is definitely not some political pork belly project at all at all). How about we integrate the control rooms using the finding of the very recent expert report. This entire problem can be resolved for €20,000 That’s right folks. Twenty thousand. I’d say the firefighters would pay for it themselves with a whiparound. Unfortunately Mr Keegan and the little kingdom builders in the senior management of the NAS want the ambulance function of DFB taken away.
Firstly there needs to be a backup to the call centre in some area distant from the primary and last I checked nobody walks into the current centre looking for an ambulance. They call and phones work in Donegal too.
Secondly, you’re right and that is the problem. It appears to be a personal turf war and resistance to change from dfb. The report specifically stated the integrated control room be setup for the ambulance service only and specifically to remove it from dfb. I would say let dfb handle fires like they are the experts at
Fully support the DFB, do an amazing job.. curious is it an all out strike or just the Ambo? #Savethedfbambulance
It’s all about Dublin City council palming as much as possible off to other agencies that way there’s more money for there useless projects that help no one. There not building houses. The old flat complex in the city centre are being sold off. There’s a very easy way to sort this out. An elected mayor for 3 year period with ultimate power to get the best for Dublin City.
People get with the programme here. NAS had its control room in Tara St in the same room as the DFB dispatch. They pulled out of Tara St of their own accord and setup the tallaght call centre. Then this came to light that we need one dispatch centre. Fire EMS is the best practice and best service for the people of Dublin so much so that Ken Knight took our model bk to the UK and is implementing the same practice there now. Tallaght was only recently setup. FACT.
HSE in charge? you are having a laugh! they are a sham. front line staff are excellent, its just a shame that they work for such a shoddy organisation. admin is brutal, they cant work anything without something going wrong, everything they touch turns to s**t. DFB is fine as it is, clean up your own house first HSE. #HandsOffDFB
I think dfb should keep the ambulance service and the hse ambulance service with its staff be transferred over to dfb. Dfb do a better job Imo, that is not a comment on the crews more on the poor administration, efficiency and coordination of the hse, it’s a consultant lead shit show.
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