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Kiev promises 'restraint' as army nears rebel Donetsk

Francois Hollande and Angela Merkel have urged for a political solution to be reached.

Ukraine Ukrainian tanks roll to the base in Devhenke village, Kharkiv, on Monday. AP Photo / Evgeniy Maloletka AP Photo / Evgeniy Maloletka / Evgeniy Maloletka

REBEL STRONGHOLDS IN eastern Ukraine are braced for more fighting as Western leaders piled more pressure on Kiev to strike a truce with pro-Russian separatists.

In a telephone call, French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel urged the Western-backed President Petro Poroshenko to move toward a political solution and said he promised to exercise “restraint” in the continuing drive to establish control in eastern Ukraine.

Poroshenko said however that the rebels were still receiving weapons from Russian territory and lamented a “lack of progress” in even agreeing the next round of talks with Moscow.

In Lugansk — one of two regional capitals still held by the insurgents — the streets were deserted and an AFP team heard regular artillery fire to the north of the city with shooting seeming to be focused around the rebels’ military headquarters.

Ukrainian defence ministry said that troops had to repel a rebel attack on the Lugansk airport.

Ukraine Army jets fly over the Ukrainian government military base while troops wait for President Petro Poroshenko. AP Photo / Evgeniy Maloletka AP Photo / Evgeniy Maloletka / Evgeniy Maloletka

“Let them bomb us, let them kill us,” said a distraught local resident called Olga. “We have nowhere to go. Where could we go?” asked her husband Yevgeny.

The couple said they were trying to get their young son out of town as he was too scared to sleep at night.

Three people were killed in the city and five injured in the past 24 hours, local authorities said.

Another three servicemen were killed and four injured in clashes across east Ukraine in the same period, Kiev’s National Security and Defence Council said Wednesday.

In Slavyansk, the flashpoint town that was left by the rebels at the weekend, shell-shocked residents said they had hopes that Kiev’s promises to rebuild it from the rubble were not just words.

Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, center, and Minister of Defense, Valery Heletey, left, inspect weapons captured from rebels in Devhenke village. AP Photo / Evgeniy Maloletka AP Photo / Evgeniy Maloletka / Evgeniy Maloletka

“If (Poroshenko) wants to be the president of the whole country, I think they will rebuild it,” 62-year-old pensioner Nina said after meeting the Ukrainian leader Tuesday evening on his lightning visit to the ravaged Slavyansk where basic supplies were now distributed to queues of people.

The three-way call between Merkel, Hollande and Poroshenko lasted forty minutes, and Paris said it resulted in assurances by the Ukrainian leader to “exercise necessary restraint… to spare civilians” as Kiev is faced with the rebels now housed in a much larger city of Donetsk.

Poroshenko said air force officer Nadiya Savchenko, who was captured by militants in eastern Ukraine, was now in a jail in central Russian city of Voronezh, calling it “unacceptable”.

Russia said Wednesday that Savchenko, known as “GI Jane” in her home country, has been arrested and charged with accessory to murder over the killed Russian state television journalists in June, and that she crossed the border herself without documents, pretending to be a refugee.

The Kremlin has been unusually restrained since the string of military advances by Kiev with analysts saying Putin could be distancing himself from the rebels despite calls from hawks to send troops across the border.

- © AFP, 2014

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    Mute Frances Faller
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    Sep 9th 2014, 6:38 AM

    I think it’s a disgrace the way elderly people are treated by the government

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    Mute Joe Harbison
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    Sep 9th 2014, 7:18 AM

    I think Irish people are also very quick to blame others assuming that it has all responsibility to provide all care for their relatives. We see a lot of old people who could make it home with a bit more support from their families but instead they are left to go into care because of lack of support. Blaming it on ‘the Government’ alone is a cop out.

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    Mute Donie Keyes
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    Sep 9th 2014, 7:29 AM

    Agreed!. There were no nursing homes back in the day (I hate that cliche !). Kids grew up with their grannies and granddad around them and they learned from them.Now the grandparents are almost disposable when they are less productive.

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    Mute Ciara McCorley
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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:51 AM

    I agree that old people are treated dreadfully in this day and age, we had to put my grandmother into a nursing home earlier this year, we all work full time with kids, my uncles the same, people can’t commit to looking after their an elderly person full time, not because they don’t want to but because it’s not feasible!!! In an ideal world we would, but unfortunately with things so tight nowadays people have to work, and when an elderly person is falling a lot and needs full time care there are no other options!

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    Mute Richard Rodgers
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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:24 AM

    Frances
    Who would you like to pay for unlimited access to Nursing Home care. Please don’t trot out the usual Left Wing drivel that the elderly have paid taxes all of their lives. They may have but they certainly haven’t paid one tiny fraction of the costs associated with this new wave of ” elderly management ” as I like to call it.
    The average cost of a Nursing Home is somewhere in the region of fifty thousand Euro a year and the average private pension is somewhere in the region of twenty eight thousand Euro a year. Below that figure the principal form of income is the State funded contributory and non contributory pension that wouldn’t cover your meals in a Facility for the aged!
    Another real issue is the fact that Nursing Homes run by the State cost some fifty percent more to fund when compared to private facilities and I think we can all agree that in the vast majority of cases the quality and standards of these would substantially favour the latter.
    Perhaps you could let us have an answer to my opening question Frances.

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    Mute John B
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    Sep 9th 2014, 1:08 PM

    Donie, so true. I worked with people from many overseas countries and they were all surprised by this whole concept of nursing homes. Yes some elderly can only be cared for in a nursing home but like many, I too remember as a child my granny and great aunt living with us until their final days. That is the norm in many other countries. Not so anymore. While these delays are awful, it is terrible that I can confidently say that all hospital staff are familiar with the term granny dumping. It is often sad when remembering the sacrifices that parents make for their children, that often the same is not returned when the parents themselves need support.

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    Dec 3rd 2014, 5:51 AM

    I think Irish people are also very quick to blame others assuming that it has all responsibility to provide all care for their relatives. We see a lot of old people who could make it home with a bit more support from their families but instead they are left to go into care because of lack of support. Blaming it on ‘the Government’ alone is a cop out. by home nursing in Bangalore

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    Dec 3rd 2014, 5:54 AM

    Agreed!. There were no nursing homes back in the day (I hate that cliche !). Kids grew up with their grannies and granddad around them and they learned from them.Now the grandparents are almost disposable when they are less productive. by home nursing in Bangalore

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    Mar 11th 2015, 11:45 PM

    share this with ten people and try to be a life saver….GOD
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    Mute Michael Nyhan
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    Sep 9th 2014, 7:24 AM

    The elderly are the people who have contributed most to our miserable country, and this is the way they are treated. Other people abuse the system and benefit most… What a joke, just makes me angry.

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    Mute KentuckyWindage
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    Sep 9th 2014, 6:54 AM

    It’s not a nice thing to say, but I’d do myself in before I left myself at the mercy of the Irish state.

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    Mute Ian O'Donovan
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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:49 AM

    Yes, feel the same way. Dreading old age if this is how things are going to happen..

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    Mute Age Action
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    Sep 9th 2014, 8:17 AM

    The figures hide the scale of the suffering and the waste of public resources.

    Where will older people waiting for a nursing home bed for 12-14 weeks wait? All have been deemed in need of full-time nursing care. Those at home will grow progressively frailer and many will be admitted by their GPs to their local A&E and into an acute hospital bed. Not only do they not need acute hospital care (just nursing care) they will deprive others in need of acute care of a bed. This is a problem — not just for older people who may need a nursing home bed — but for everyone who may need an acute hospital bed.

    At the core of the problem is the failure of successive governments to plan for our ageing population. This does not just mean funding for nursing home beds, but also includes a much greater investment in community-based care. Supports such as home helps, home care packages, public health nurses, occupational therapists, day care centres, meals on wheels etc can enable more older people to live for longer in their own homes. Likewise, proper funding for home adaptation schemes would be a great help (funding for the scheme has been slashed this year).

    The current problem was clear from late last year when the HSE published its service plan. This is our statement issued on December 18, 2013 http://www.ageaction.ie/age-action-concerned-impact-hse-service-plan-sickest-older-people

    http://www.ageaction.ie/age-action-concerned-impact-hse-service-plan-sickest-older-people

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    Mute Irish Nurses
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    Sep 9th 2014, 8:08 AM

    Whilst the pressure being placed on our already burdened health service is of grave concern, the worst part about this delay is the effect it has on the quality of life of these older people stuck in acute hospitals!
    Due to understaffing and over-crowding, many of these patients spend the vast majority of their days in bed or sitting in a chair with the consequence being that by the time they are placed in a nursing home they can no longer walk and have become incontinent. The real tragedy of this 4 month delay is the physical and psychological toll which this delay takes on our loved ones. We should not simply abide this!

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    Mute Joseph O'Regan
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    Sep 9th 2014, 7:40 AM

    The Government does not care about elderly people, they only cost money, no profit in them. Let the private sector look after them or let the people set up a charity ……Our caring government.

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    Mute Roscom-Man
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    Sep 9th 2014, 6:45 AM

    Better off not going all the abuse that they get in them places. A place in Galway had a sweat shop for knitting Aran sweaters. By they time the operation was uncovered bone had already been exposed through the tops of the oaps fingers. Enough is enough

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    Mute Samantha Wright
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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:18 AM

    This is just sad and alarming too because the government allows this to happen to older adults. They should be taken good care of and not taken for granted. I hope the government will do something about this and will release the funds right on time and to provide more nursing homes in order to accommodate those who are in need of care. This should be addressed right away since http://www.longtermcare.gov and http://www.ltcoptions.com confirm that around 7 out of 10 of people who are 65 and above will require long term care. To make things worse, there will be a silver tsunami soon and more people will require care inside nursing homes and other long-term care facilities. If the government can’t do it alone, then perhaps its time to create a partnership with private groups or charities that can solve this problem. I really hope the government will put this in its priority list or else a lot of older adults will suffer physically, financially and emotionally as well.

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    Mute Kristina Schroder
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    Sep 9th 2014, 7:00 PM

    I agree with Michael Nahyan, it’s disgusting they way, they treat are elderly, and why it has to cost so much to look after the elderly is beyond me. , I really feel for them.

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    May 18th 2016, 2:54 PM

    I realise it’s important to find nee things to be engraged about, but the waiting-time for one of these places is a non-starter. Nobody suddenly wakes up one day and finds themselves old and unable to care for themselves. It happens over time. There’s plenty of t

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