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A 2011 protest at Leinster House. Mark Stedman/Photocall Ireland

Dublin City Council votes for an arms and trade embargo on Israel

The DCC wants the Irish Government to follow suit.

DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL has passed a motion calling on Israel to end its attacks on Gaza and to lift its siege on the coastal strip.

DCC is also calling on the Irish Government to push for an arms and trade embargo on Israel.

The motion was proposed by Cllr. Tina Veigh of the People Before Profit Alliance and also condemned use of administrative detention, a form of internment without trial, by the Israeli state.

“This is the third massive offensive perpetrated by Israel on the Palestinian people in five and a half years,” Veigh said following the unanimous vote. “Israel’s acts of barbarism are always the subject of great public and moral outrage, condemned by many democratically elected institutions, however, Israel is never held to account.”

The motion itself noted that the current operation in Gaza is the third such air offensive in the last six years. It expressed solidarity with Palestinian political prisoners currently held under administrative detention and called for the immediate end of the practice.

The council also specifically called for “an end to Israeli attacks on Gaza as a vital precondition to a lasting ceasefire agreement”.

It also reiterated and similar call from the council in 2010 to end the Israeli-imposed siege of Gaza.

The DCC motion commits to sending a delegation to meet with the new Minister of Foreign Affairs Charlie Flanagan to encourage the Irish government to “take concrete and immediate action in relation to the above”.

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    Mute Glen
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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:35 AM

    Great news
    The people of Palestine need all the support they can get.

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    Mute seamus mcdermott
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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:00 AM

    If the US just started clipping a billion from their aid for every year there was no progress, we might see some progress. As it stands, they’re paying Israel not to reach an accord.

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    Mute Philip Mc Grath
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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:12 AM

    It’s time for Ireland to expel all Israeli diplomats

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    Mute Shane Walsh
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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:16 AM

    27 red thumbs?

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    Mute Glen
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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:17 AM

    Philip
    I agree with you. I think this step should be taken in many country’s if Israel don’t stop these attacks.

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    Mute Dave Butler
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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:58 AM

    What will we do if Hamas don’t stop?

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:23 AM

    What about all the other countries commiting the same type of thing. China, Russia, most of Africa the USA, Britain etc why don’t we boycott the lot of them. DDC just made a complete mockery out of the country and now they come out with this

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:47 AM

    You referring to the Garth Brooks concert?

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    Mute Declan Conway
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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:08 AM

    It’s all pointless. The USA has power of veto at the UN.
    Israel could launch an unprovoked nuclear attack on Turkey and the US stilll would veto any sanctions against it.

    Remember, the US vetoed a UN resolution declaring the West Bank barrier (700 km) illegal back in 2003.
    A year later the UN referred the matter to the International Court of Justice which concluded the barrier violated international law and must be torn down.

    Israel – and the US – rejected the verdict and the resolution.
    All member States of the EU backed the verdict and resolution.

    It needs the US to apply pressure, but it never does.

    As Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu have said in the past, the US is into Israel in a big way (massive multi-billion dollar contracts and loans), and will always fall into line.

    That is what you’re up against.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 12:17 PM

    @ Philip we could open a concentration camp and put all jews in while we are at, I am sure DEC would licence it, shhhhhh but don’t mention the 150,000 dead in Syria as they don’t “need all the help they can get”

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    Mute Sarah Brener
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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:18 PM

    You want to see Israel sitting quietly and isn’t fighting back when rockets send from Gaza falling on their towns and villages, don’t ya? No way. Hamas who started fire must to give up their rockets to international forces first.

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    Mute Moe Ragel
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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:48 AM

    I think it’s about time that someone is commended for doing something good in this country. Even when someone does something good it’s greeted with abuse and negativity.

    Hats off to DCC on this. About time something was done however little it may be.

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    Mute seamus mcdermott
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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:02 AM

    The Irish abuse at the 1916 leaders as well, didn’t they?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:10 AM

    Correct Seamus. The establishment media in particular, fed an extremely negative narrative to the public. The Indo (surprise surprise) called the rising ‘insane and criminal’ and actually called for the leaders to be shot.

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    Mute Mary Doherty
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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:31 AM

    Complete BS
    Ye lambast the government’s decisions day in and day out here yet somehow they’ve got this one right? Haha. This place is full of absolute sheeple when it comes to this topic. Thank God countries with actual weight and actual success still support Israel. Thank God I got out of here. Pathetic country.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:28 AM

    I bet everyone that knows you is thanking God too.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:35 AM

    @ mary: “Ye lambast the government’s decisions day in and day out here yet somehow they’ve got this one right? Haha. ”

    The majority of DCC councillors are from non-government parties or independents, their decision has nothing got to do with the government.

    ‘F- , poor trolling, must try harder’

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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:58 AM

    It’s a hipster decision by DCC.Nothing more.
    WereJammin why do you only comment on Israel articles,and never Syria or Iraq were Arabs are being killed on a far greater scale?Is it because you have pathologiacal hatred of Israel and want to see it annihilated as Hamas do?

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    Mute Mary Doherty
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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:36 PM

    Em… Are the DCC not attempting this in the hopes the government follows? Is that not the point.

    Seriously werejammin, you are just a fanatical crackpot. Oh but I’m sure your little irish organisation is right compared to the UK and the US who you know SO much better than, right? Have you any idea how pathetic that sounds? Sure you and your people (who are ultimately in the minority by the way) know better than all the national leaders and teams. Pathetic.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:36 PM

    @Scipio

    Yep, he is like a moth to an Israeli flame. Ire and simple.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 3:46 PM

    Wow Mary. You are little pointing a spot light on your complete narrow mindedness. Bravo.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 4:47 PM

    “Sure you and your people (who are ultimately in the minority by the way) know better than all the national leaders and teams.”

    You have to laugh at the lame Hasbara, trying to make out that most of the World supports Israel, even using sock puppet accounts to make it look like they’ve more support than they actually have. Their leader from Cork who was banned from the Journal was also caught calling on his cronies to create lots of fake accounts. What way are the thumbs on the top comment here Mary? Oh look 366 to 87. What way did that UN General Assembly vote go in favour of the Palestinians again Mary? Oh yeah 138 to 9. The World really supports Israel doesn’t it Mary? So funny, I hope you’re not one of the ones getting paid for this Hasbara Mary cause you’re f***ing useless at it.

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    Jul 16th 2014, 9:36 AM

    @scorpio
    Copy and paste the same comment over and over only proves your part of the propaganda.
    Your lacking genuine personal opinion thus resulting in replaying the same recording!

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    Jul 16th 2014, 9:45 AM

    @larry
    You’re clearly a brainy one. Yep… I’m an Israeli operative on the Journal. Give me a break. This place is tremendously biased towards Palestine and whatever. I know the reader demographic here, it affects my life not. I hope ye keep on your merry way, backing each other up with your irrelevant opinions because like it or not this situation isn’t going to change so take your hippy dreadlocks and cry some more about it.

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    Mute Horgay H
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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:30 AM

    This is fantastic. Everything counts, no matter how small. Any move that highlights the thuggery and butchery and slaughter of innocent women and children by Israel must be welcomed.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:30 AM

    The bloodshed can be stopped instantly: if Hamas cease their attacks. People are ignoring this. Hamas are leading their people to death.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 12:28 PM

    Ah Bernard, if Israel pulled out of gaza, the rockets would stop. You see? The same point you just made.

    The point is, at this minute in time, Israel are murdering children. I know who I blame.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 12:35 PM

    “Israel are murdering children”
    Hamas use children as shields. Hamas want the total destruction of Israel. If Hamas cease firing rockets into Israel there would be no need for retaliatory responses. Hamas are bringing pain upon their own people. Like someone throwing rocks at a hornets nest then complaining when they get stung.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 12:41 PM

    Wait a second. Israel pulled its settlers out of Gaza years ago. The elected Hamas government in Gaza started shelling and rocketing across the border, that counts as causus belli in almost any circumstance, so the Israelis responded as Hamas absolutely knew they would. You’re annoyed because the Israelis bombs and missiles are more effective than the Hamas ones?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 1:21 PM

    Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005. Try to keep up!

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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:08 PM

    I’m annoyed because children are dying. Call me crazy.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:11 PM

    Yes..they are really shielding themselves in their homes from those laser guided missiles..give us a break you champion of child murder

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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:12 PM

    Bernard…so its Hamas’ fault because it fired rockets first!? which I condem also…so taking your logic, its all Adam&Eves fault then that innocent children are being killed by Israeli rockets in Palestine is it!?!?

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    Mute Nigel O'Neill
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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:16 PM

    And built a land and sea blockade so that they can even stop the movement of pencils into Gaza for kids to use in the schools!!
    There are some young Palestinian boxers in Waterford this week for an international tournament. The delegation were offered sponsored new boxing gloves and footwear as a welcome gift but declined as they told of how the Israeli blockade would just confiscate the new items on their way back into Gaza…sounds like your kind of freedom then hey!

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    Mute Sarah Brener
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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:46 PM

    blockade of pencils and boxing gloves? Do not be silly. What about thousands of rockets brought into Gaza from outside via underground tunnels?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 3:06 PM

    Every red thumb knows that it’s true. It’s not my fault you doesn’t like it. :))

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    Jul 15th 2014, 5:06 PM

    @the doctor.

    Hamas fire their rockets at hospitals and civilian estates. Their attacks fail because Israel spends millions on defence. In fact before they bombed the strip the other day, Israel dropped leaflets into targeted areas, telling people to leave. And HAMAS tell them to stay put.

    Hamas have the intention to murder Israeli people, civilians and military. Is that not enough because they haven’t been successful yet?

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    Jul 18th 2014, 3:00 PM

    Israel has asked the residents to EVACUATE well ahead of time and HAMAS told them NOT to!!!

    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/24746/Default.aspx

    And BBC has busted the story that Hamas was circulated FALSE images of injuries from wars in Iraq and Syria!

    STOP being so gullible and believing LIES and manipulation…

    http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/36714-140709-gaza-pro-palestinians-post-fake-photos-on-twitter

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:28 AM

    Because Israel really give a crap what Dublin City Council think.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:35 AM

    Well if this was repeated the world over it might get through is Israel that the world thinks they are the bad guys.

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    Mute Kevin Higgins
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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:39 AM

    If the EU or UN announce trade embargo Israel may be forced into exploring peaceful options

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    Mute Mick Kavanagh
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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:40 AM

    Israel don’t care what people think. They are a law onto themselves.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:41 AM

    Fair dues to the DCC, but the government are completely spineless.

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    Mute Moe Ragel
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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:44 AM

    It’s a start. And fair play to Dublin City council for taking the lead on this.
    Good to see negativity and begrudgery alive and well anyway.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:48 AM

    Dublin City Council are an Arms dealer ?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:54 AM

    Boganity not everything is solved with guns

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:56 AM

    Dominos Mick. Country’s are more afraid of pissing off America. America and Europe are drifting apart quite fast and this will really effect Israel as Europe is their largest trading partner. If we say no to them other might (most likely will) follow suit.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:06 AM

    America is also sick of Israel although it can’t be seen not to back them. I don’t think it will bring any pressure on countries who wish to place an embargo on Israel.

    Fair play to DCC, I have heard more from our elected councillors in the last two weeks than I have in the previous 10 years…………

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:32 AM

    Has the Dublin City Council ordered that there will be no more Spuds from Israel in Tesco’s….

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:43 AM

    They don’t give a flying f***

    Until Ireland is in the UN or a similar group, they won’t care. (Thankfully that will NEVER happen) What’s more they’re aware of Ireland’s disproportionate support for Palestine. We essentially helped caused a Eurpean Economy collapse; we really don’t make good decisions, why would they assume we do now?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:48 AM

    Ireland is in the UN it’s not in NATO ………

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:50 AM

    Oh sorry, my bad!
    I mean leading nations like G8

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:28 AM

    Sorry to disagree Mary, when Ireland made a stand against apartheid in South Africa it did have an affect on people attitudes here and the ANC appreciated our support.

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    Mute Mary Doherty
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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:39 PM

    If you HONESTLY believe Ireland has any kind of a say in what goes on in the world you are delusional. Maybe before the crash we had a certain amount of credibility but now we are a minuscule country that was instrumental in causing a HUGE crash. Many a man abroad believes us to be fools, I don’t totally disagree. Our glory days of Joyce and Walton are SO far behind.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 3:43 PM

    Pathetic!

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:33 AM

    Israel don’t care what the world thinks about them, they have been murdering innocent Palestinians for years all in the name if their “security” I think its mire like a genocide

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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:32 AM

    The usual OTT sentiments to describe Israel, of course the Palestinians never committed acts of barbarism against innocent Israeli citizens???.

    See link,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks

    Obviously the list is not up to date as it only covers up to 2008, but its noticeable that there were very few attacks in the 90′s but from 2001 to 2005 there was an epidemic of suicide attacks is it any wonder why Israel beefed up there security ten fold as their citizens were been slaughtered with reckless abandon by the poor Palestinians,

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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:33 AM

    their

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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:14 PM

    Nobody ever said that..theres the catch..old jedi mind trick right!?!?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:32 AM

    Bravo Dublin City Council!

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:42 AM

    Well done Dublin, a great change ! Keep it Up !

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:36 AM

    Do these clowns have the slightest clue what the role they were elected to actually is?

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    Mute Kevin Higgins
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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:40 AM

    Yes they do probably more than anyone given their job roles. This is part of their job role and a welcome move

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:54 AM

    I hope Dublin City Council also pass motions on logging in the Amazon, save the whale, the Syrian Conflict, Boku Haram and human rights in China.

    And when they’ve done all that and have patted themselves on the back a few times with their self-serving posturing, perhaps they can then fix some potholes, invest in better greenspace amenities in poorer suburbs, repair cycle lanes and deal with Dublin’s homeless, vulnerable old people and drug abusers. Not as much publicity with those ones, but they are sort of what they were actually elected to do and that their office is actually for.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:13 AM

    At least they have done something about it.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:23 AM

    Yes, do something about the drug dealers.. shoot them!

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:33 AM

    Homo, they haven’t done anything. Are they sending aid to Palestine? Are they boycotting the use of any Israeli goods, services or software/technology in the offices of DCC? Are they refusing to provide public services to any Israeli government offices in Dublin?

    Most importantly – is this motion exercising any powers of their office to do anything that they are supposed to be doing, that they were elected to do? International political statements weren’t what I was expecting of DCC. Same as I don’t expect Coillte or NUI to start getting involved in lambasting Putin over the Ukraine land-grab.

    No.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 5:28 PM

    Well, they ARE showing “solidarity”. But not in a way that put themselves in any actual danger. Or requires them to make any sacrifices. Or endure any discomfort. Or spend any money.
    But the Palestinians can safely rest knowing DCC have got their backs.
    2500 miles away, but, still, the DCC is there for you.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:08 AM

    Here’s a documentry on the abuse Israel dishes out to non Jewish kids on the West Bank. The Israelis, a great bunch of lads!
    http://youtu.be/z5AkFlAeCHE

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:48 AM

    Uh, oh. You’re in for it now, Israel.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:33 AM

    Sort out our own people here in Ireland first, ye planks,

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:46 AM

    If everyone had that attitude we’d be speaking German.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:58 AM

    Instead you’re speaking in cliches, eh Moe?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:26 AM

    Never heard that one before, Moe…. I love how all these toff wannabe socialists (many of them women) wrap themselves in Palestinian flags and keffiyehs.. completely oblivious to the fact that women are treated like second class citizens in the Palestinian territories. Both awful places.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:39 AM

    No they’re not, Mark.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:04 AM

    Good point how many have been in Northern Israel when indiscriminate rocket launches land there none I venture and if Hamas didn’t hide their rocket tubes in schools and hospitals and in the midst of civilian communities there wouldn’t be this death tole.I can’t believe how biased comments are here,armchair generals most of whomever have never been I the area.Both sides must shoulder blame.how can Israel make peace with someone whose main purpose is the destruction of Israel and Israel should get to hell out of the West Bank and Gaza.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:11 AM

    Then what are you? An actual General?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:23 AM

    @Emmet – Great comment Emmet. Excellent invaluable input into this thread. Moron.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:27 AM

    Rand Al Thor, why does Hamas hate Israel so much? At one point the Palestinians wanted Israel to go back to its 1967 borders, but they kept building and taking land way outside of their borders, so then the Palestinians wanted everything back.

    You said Israel should leave the West Bank and Gaza, well they did leave Gaza but left a blockade which effectively ruins Gaza. It’s illegal to bring pasta into Gaza under Israel’s rules.Is that right? You honestly believe that the Palestinians have no right to self defense? 3 kids were murdered in the West Bank, so Israel decided to impose collective punishment on the people of Gaza.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 5:06 PM

    @ Foxtrot … I’d like to answer your questions if that’s ok?

    “Why does Hamas hate Israel so much?”
    Because it’s full of Jews

    “At one point the Palestinians wanted Israel to go back to its 1967 borders, but they kept building and taking land way outside of their borders, so then the Palestinians wanted everything back.”

    First off, I’m 100% against the illegal settlements, but let’s just look at 1967 for a minute … Israel offered land that they had won in a defensive war in exchange for peace i.e. a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as their capital, return of the Gaza strip and almost all of the West Bank, a fair resolution to refugees and an end to settlements. This was rejected. The PLO and Hamas, don’t want everything “back” in such simplistic terms, they just want Israel gone … 100% gone.

    “You said Israel should leave the West Bank and Gaza, well they did leave Gaza but left a blockade which effectively ruins Gaza.”

    The blockade was built to stop the constant suicide bombers from Gaza into Israel. It worked.
    And em, did you forget that Eygpt also borders Gaza? Are they stopping that middle easter delicacy of pasta getting in too? Strange one…

    “You honestly believe that the Palestinians have no right to self defense?

    Palestinians have every right to self defense … self defense against the terrorists they democratically elected (and who they would most likely elect again) who use them as human shields. Thank God Israel spend money on bomb shelters to protect their people. Thankfully the Hamas Leaders are safe in their bomb shelters too…

    “3 kids were murdered in the West Bank, so Israel decided to impose collective punishment on the people of Gaza.”
    Should they have waited for it to be 10 kids, 20 kids … how many is too many? When they were being attacked from 1968 – 1990 by suicide bomber after suicide bomber in cafes, creches, shopping centers, weddings, etc … was that not enough? People need to take collective responsibility. Instead, Gaza civilians voted In Hamas … so they are saying they are ok with Terrorists running their country.

    So now I have 2 questions for you.

    Does Israel have a right to exist and if so with which borders?
    If Israel laid down their arms right now, what in your opinion would happen?

    No other anti Israel activists will answer these questions …

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    Jul 15th 2014, 6:23 PM

    Jenni you might as well be talking to a dead sheep as the useful idiots will just ignore any facts that might show Israel in a good light.

    Its cool and fashionable to be anti Israeli and pro Palestinian, funny isn’t it that these Islamic Palestinians despise everything a western democracy stands for but the pitiful useless idiots are totally blind to this, so it can only be latent Anti Semitism that is the main driving force behind all the vile hatred thats directed towards civilized Israel.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:51 AM

    I believe it was wrong for DCC to pass this motion. Even if you despise Israel at least it is a conflict over land where there is blame on all sides. In Syria the regime is slaughtering its people on an emphatically larger scale than anything that is happening in Gaza. And it is doing so for only one reason, so that a dictator can cling on to power. Yet no calls from anyone in DCC to boycott Syria. For DCC to pass a motion condemning Israel, but not Syria (or any of the much worse human rights violators around the world) is bad judgement. Ireland, as a country that has initiated one of the most successful peace processes in the world, should I believe, take a more constructive approach when it comes to conflict resolution.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:57 AM

    The Syrian regime have sanctions imposed on them by the international community. Not so for Israel, despite being in clear beach of UN resolutions. The boycott initiative is to be commended.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:14 AM

    The point is Dublin City Council have not taken any stance on Syria.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:16 AM

    It’s better for a dictator like Assad to stay in power than letting Syria be overrun by Islamists. Anything is better than Islamists. The Islamist ideology is a cancer on the world.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:40 AM

    Secular dictatorship isn’t any better than an Islamic one. It’s just a different kind of oppression.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:18 AM

    Complete BS. To give one example, when Iraq was a secular dictatorship, women could have a career and enjoyed far more freedoms then they now do under the Shia puppet government.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 12:12 PM

    Ted I can assure you the current Syrian regime is much the better of the 2 evils, take a look at this link and see what these Islamic rebels (animals) are capable of, warning extremely graphic images that would turn any right thinking person to despise everything Islam stands for, its a barbaric cult, and all this support for the Islamic Palestinians and the rabid hatred for Israel has me tearing my hair out.

    http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/07/15/jordan-is-reluctant-to-allow-obama-led-enhanced-training-program-for-syrian-jihadist-rebels-on-their-soil-warning-graphic-images/

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:04 AM

    Did this shower by any chance pass a motion for Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:27 AM

    No use unfortunately. The plan is to occupy all of Gaza and the west bank for a Jewish owned state.

    As we’ve seen.
    Pretense – outcry – ‘retaliate’ – bulldoze – build and settle — then repeat. Going on slowly for decades. As soon as particular settlements and finished AMD fortified, the above repeats itself.

    Then the illusion off being all forna truce knowing well that no truce bcan be reached when nearly 200 people have been slaughtered. So the killing continues and the plan becomes closer and closer to completion.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:16 AM

    This motion is one sided in its condemnation of the Israeli response to the unrelenting barrage of Hamas rocket attacks on Israel. It might be more useful to urge the Irish government to call for renewal of peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:24 AM

    Israel are shrinking Palestine with illegal housing settlements. How would you react if your ‘country’ is disintegrating ?

    Also how many israelis have died from these rockets?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:12 AM

    No Israelis have been killed yet. One reason being that the government of Israel regards the welfare of its citizens as paramount unlike Hamas who view theirs as expendable.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:14 AM

    “This motion is one sided”

    So is the conflict Elisabeth.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 12:47 PM

    Dave you forgot to address the first question I asked but you skip right to the 3rd.

    75% of dead Palestinians are civilians so go away trying to blame hamas.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 5:19 PM

    Israel has fired on civilian areas to destroy their weapons. Hamas intentionally hide their missiles and rockets in civilian areas, unlike Israel who store them in military bases. That said, Hamas also fire on hospitals and civilian areas.If people wonder why Israel retaliate so vehemently to Palestine’s attacks is probably because they have a better understanding of terrorist organizations then we do, and instead of sitting back and taking the 1000′s of rockets Hamas are firing, they retaliate with brute force. Why? Because terrorist organizations understand nothing but brute force. They encourage their citizens to act as human shields, to stay in Israeli targeted areas even after Israeli bomb warnings.

    People who equate defending Israel with justifying civilian deaths is sheer incompetence. Nobody thinks the death toll is justified no matter who you support. But it seems people are blaming Israel for spending millions on defence out of concern for its people, whilst sympathizing with Hamas for…..what? Their unsuccessful attacks due to Israel’s defense system? Hamas have the INTENT to kill civilians and military.

    But that doesn’t suffice, no?

    To condemn/demonize Israel whilst ignoring Hamas actions is nothing but an ironic contradiction.
    People are to quick to condemn a whole country after reading a few articles, with little or no research into the conflicts history, and it’s unfair to Israel.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:20 AM

    Since when does local government get involved in international affairs ? I can’t remember a single recent local election candidate pledging to stick their oar into Middle Eastern affairs because if they did nobody would have voted for them. I don’t know why this motion came about in DCC but whatever the reason it wasn’t for the protection of Palastinians. To DCC I say do what you’re supposed to – deal with local issues and keep your nose out of international affairs that don’t concern you. Effing nonsense.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:37 AM

    The DCC councillors think they are far more important than merely managing Dublin city’s public service needs as they were elected to do. Such trivial banality must be beneath them.

    Funny how none of the elected candidates had their pro-Palestinian agenda on their election brochures. I wonder what other surprises they have in store? Maybe they have a stance on abortion? Fluoridated water? Women priests? Gay Marriage? China-Japan territoriality? Whaling?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:55 AM

    Well done DCC what a frickin waste of time. Garth Brooks now this.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:23 AM

    Should the DCC not do the job they are meant to do! Pointless vote with no impact and a waste of council time

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:16 AM

    At least a good idea from the DCC.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:41 AM

    Rag tag mob of misfits

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    Mute Oisín O'Connor
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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:50 AM

    The Israeli regime is akin to SA apartheid. A decades long oppression which was fought from the bottom up. Mandela and his ANC colleagues used violence (in much more moderate form to Hamas I will accept) and people marched and sang in cities the world over to have him released.

    This is a similar struggle but without the catchy songs and romantic back stories.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 5:25 PM

    In what way is it akin to Apartheid?!

    This claim is usually made by someone who doesn’t understand either situation …

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    Jul 18th 2014, 3:02 PM

    True, Tim – and what’s more this horrific abuse of the term is offensive to those who suffered under and struggled against true apartheid!

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:19 AM

    Israel accepted ceasefire proposal hours ago & Hamas rejected it.
    Bit slow with the news, this site
    Wheres the article, Journal.ie?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:41 AM

    Its there, albeit not the full story.

    A shill like yourself should have see it. Clear your cache.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:17 AM

    “Not the full story” is right.
    Its not there
    Either it is or it isn’t
    It still isnt

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:44 AM

    Arms ! Are the free state government actually supplying arms to these IDF terrorists?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:56 AM

    John back in the bunker EMP! I’ll let you know when the tinfoil hat is safe to take off

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:59 AM

    @ John. We buy bullets off them as far as I know. Alan Shatter was asked to stop when he got into power but refused.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:05 AM

    Thanks for that, no surprise there by Shatter

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:51 AM

    Read the story, it clearly says arms trade, no tin foil hat here sonny

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:22 AM

    U.S. militants thru Shannon airport is enough to dispel the myth of irish neutrality

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:56 AM

    Dublin City Council are looking and sounding more and more like Derek Hatton’s Liverpool Council of the 1980′s.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:51 AM

    Well done Dublin City Council

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:49 AM

    Not really going to have any effect while the US continues to support them. No US politician is going to call for an embargo on is israel, it would probley be the end of their career

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:53 AM

    End of his life no doubt

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:51 AM

    I look forward to a flurry of such motions on all other regions on the planet where people are dying in conflicts. Let’s hope this moral eye is cast far and wide because to single out Israel would display hypocrisy on a breathtaking level.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:39 AM

    No we condemn evil no matter where it happens. Mass, mindless, racist slaughter is the same no matter where it is. Jews blowing Arab men, women and children to bits at the moment by weapons given to them by the US is whats making the news at the moment. We do the same when Arabs to it too.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 12:33 PM

    Keep championing child murder chuck

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:23 AM

    This has to be the most ridiculous headline I’ve ever seen on the Journal .

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    Jul 15th 2014, 8:45 AM

    Who’s next ? Banner Garth & Israel in one week !

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:08 AM

    The lefties in DCC are at it again intervening in the middle east,if the government here took the DCC motion of an Israeli arms and trade embargo on board,and going by the trade figures,the biggest losers would be ourselves, it would hurt Ireland far more than Israel and add to our own unemployment problems,not a wise move and certainly not what the country needs right now.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:32 AM

    Shouldn’t someone point out to Dublin City Council that Israel makes its own armaments!

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    Jul 15th 2014, 2:29 PM

    The largest arms importer in the world.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:49 AM

    Looks like the councillors actually though they were running for the student union.
    Top of the agenda in the next meeting banning Nestle products from the council tuck shop.
    I see they didn’t call for their mates in Hamas to stop firing 1000 rockets, I guess that’s ok.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 12:38 PM

    Can we distinguish between Hamas and Palestine ?

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:18 AM

    The UN Security Council will hold an emergency meeting as a result of this.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 3:41 PM

    DDC should propose that they do the job they were elected to do and spend their time cleaning up Dublin rather than wasting tax payers money. Clean up your own back yard before sticking your nose into others

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:35 AM

    So, is that just Dublin that would have an embargo? People might go mental if you take their Jaffa Cakes away.

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    Jul 15th 2014, 11:03 AM

    Quiet faucet office in DCC, I’m sure the Israelis are pulling out the troops as we speak

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    Jul 15th 2014, 9:29 AM

    DCC should propose an embargo on all proposed embargoes. That’ll show ‘em!!!!!!

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    Jul 17th 2014, 11:57 AM

    Are you serious? Israeli cities were bombed regularly from Gaza for the past 14 (!) years! Currently, more than 70% of Israeli population are in the range of Hamas missiles, which continued to be launched toward Israeli civilians even after ceasefire was announced, while on the other hand Israel keeps on providing to Gaza humanity aid and electricity.

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    Jul 18th 2014, 2:56 PM

    I wonder if anyone here realizes that Hamas is using the people in the Gaza region as shields? I wonder if you all have considered what YOU would do if someone were shooting rockets into YOUR country? I see some of your comments and see what’s happening around the world as a “mob mentality”. You are in danger of repeating hateful antisemitic historical events. Even the chancellor of Germany admits openly that Israel has the right to defend itself?!!??!?!? And what’s more there was no democratic debate, there was no discussion allowed that would argue against this measure.

    https://www.google.ie/search?q=Israel+has+the+right+to+defend+itself&oq=Israel+has+the+right+to+defend+itself&aqs=chrome..69i57.5230j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8#q=Israel+has+the+right+to+defend+itself&tbm=nws

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    Jul 20th 2014, 12:08 AM

    what a hypocrites..
    why don’t they condemn the indiscriminate missile launches on Israeli citizens ?
    and Hamas official charter that calls for all the JEws to be slaughtered?
    I see anti semitism is alive and well in this organization
    someone should sue them for hate speech and racism

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    Jul 15th 2014, 10:38 PM

    Aren’t we a neutral country?

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