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MH17 black boxes show crash caused by rocket shrapnel, says Ukrainian official

The investigators leading the probe in the Netherlands would not give confirmation.

THE BLACK BOXES recovered from downed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 in rebel-held east Ukraine show shrapnel from a rocket explosion caused the passenger jet to crash, a Ukrainian security official said today.

International investigators “indicated that data from flight recorders show that the reason for the destruction and crash of the plane was massive explosive decompression arising from multiple shrapnel perforations from a rocket explosion,” said Andriy Lysenko, spokesman for Ukraine’s National Security and Defence Council.

Ukraine Plane AP / Press Association Images AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

Data from the doomed airliner’s black boxes was decrypted in Britain after being handed over to Malaysian officials by pro-Russian rebels controlling the crash site of MH17.

Investigators leading the probe in the Netherlands, which lost 193 citizens, refused to confirm the latest information from Kiev, saying that they were “waiting to get a more complete idea of what happened.”

Kiev and its Western allies have accused insurgents of shooting down the plane, killing all 298 people on board.

Ukraine Plane utch investigators examine pieces of the crashed Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 in the village of Rassipne, Donetsk region, eastern Ukraine. AP / Press Association Images AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

In Moscow, the head of the Russian experts participating in the crash probe, criticised Lysenko for commenting publicly without the authorisation of the chief of the investigation as is required by international agreements.

Oleg Storchevoi, the deputy head of Russia’s air regulator, was quoted by Russian news agencies as saying Ukraine has “violated the basic principles of cooperation in the investigation of air crashes”.

© AFP, 2014

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    Apr 15th 2017, 9:41 PM

    Did I just read this..jasyus I did…I did need to get out more..but nobody has ever explained to me why Broccoli goes cold as soon as you cook it..I’ve never had hot Broccoli yet..

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    Mute Gary
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    Apr 15th 2017, 9:51 PM

    @sparky: Broccoli has a very high surface area per unit weight compared to other veg. This high surface area allows for higher rates of heat transfer to occur between the broccoli and the air. The stems of the broccoli are also a lot less dense than other vegetables too so heat transfer occurs more rapidly for that reason as well.

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    Mute molly coddled
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    Apr 15th 2017, 11:52 PM

    @sparky: always preheat your plate.

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    Apr 15th 2017, 9:34 PM

    Another valuable scientific endeavour….
    Thank God for religion, that’s all I can say.

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    Apr 15th 2017, 11:17 PM

    Stephen Hawking must be glad he is still alive to read this. Good to know scientists have their prioritys right. Serious illnesses & research is not important if shoelaces become undone according to these scientists. This is an insult to scientists everywhere.

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    Mute Paddy Ryan
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    Apr 15th 2017, 11:23 PM

    @Abcd: If you’d bother to actually read the article you’d see that it does have a serious side in preventing injury.

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    Apr 15th 2017, 11:24 PM

    @Jack Cassady: Guess what Jack… turns out God didn’t do this either…

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    Mute Abcd
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    Apr 16th 2017, 7:48 AM

    @Paddy Ryan: My shoelaces have not undone since i was about 6. We where taught too secure all footwear & loose clothing especially near any machinery.

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    Mute Tomasz Irlandczik Krótki
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    Apr 16th 2017, 8:35 PM

    @Abcd: move on to ‘é’ and the rest of the alphabet as soon as you can. Then complete your education, concentrating on logic, but not forgetting reading and comprehension. Then read this article once more. If you do not understand it differently the second time around, you are probably ineducable.

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    Apr 15th 2017, 11:30 PM

    Jasus, this article had me in knots.

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    Mute Mark Fields
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    Apr 16th 2017, 3:19 AM

    Double knot always works for me. Takes2 seconds longer to untie but worth it for one pair of athletic shoes with laces that untie within 10 minutes of tying the knot.

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    Apr 15th 2017, 10:04 PM

    Bunny ears, bunny ears, playing by a tree. Criss-crossed the tree, trying to catch me. Bunny ears, Bunny ears, jumped into the hole, popped out the other side beautiful and bold.”

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    Mute Tomasz Irlandczik Krótki
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    Apr 16th 2017, 8:36 PM

    @Colleen McGovern: what you rabbitin’ on about, Willis?

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    Apr 16th 2017, 1:48 AM

    “…unable to lift his foot off the gas…”

    Enough of the Yankisms

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    Mute George Hogan
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    Apr 16th 2017, 1:42 PM

    Hahaha, yet you use an Americanism in your appeal to eschew a ‘Yankism’!
    Enough with the Little Englander mentality. The world uses American English and in Ireland we use, increasingly, American spelling. You can color it whatever way you wish, but the English used in Ireland and in our neighboring island is moving toward the American standard.

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    Apr 15th 2017, 10:39 PM

    Seriously

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    Apr 15th 2017, 9:40 PM

    My guess is it’ll be a combination of vibration from the foot/shoe in normal thread action and the laces swinging. The result of both actions causing the knot to work itself loose.

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    Apr 15th 2017, 10:18 PM

    @Paul Downes: My guess is its explained in the article.

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    Apr 16th 2017, 9:10 AM

    Good on you journal. That’s a fine piece of copy and pasting from a piece of news that was reported on around the globe last week.

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    Mute Tom Kennedy
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    Apr 16th 2017, 8:01 AM

    So, am I right in thinking a bunch of scientists have basically determined through scientific research that lases come undone because we/i don’t make a proper knot?? Out with lases in with velcro. I think we need a tribunal!

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    Mute Grá Design - Dublin
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    Apr 16th 2017, 10:16 AM

    Ah lads, this was solved a long time ago. It’s to do with the direction in which you tie the knot. 3 min video on Ted Talks explains it.
    Terry Moore: How to tie your shoes
    http://go.ted.com/NQ2rKQ

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    Apr 16th 2017, 4:21 AM

    I kid you knot!!!

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    Apr 16th 2017, 6:50 AM

    Who the hell finds this kind of research ? The scouts ?

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    Apr 16th 2017, 6:51 AM

    #Funds#

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    Apr 16th 2017, 8:00 PM

    Jesus these lads are busy

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