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Rolf Harris Dominic Lipinski

Rolf Harris applies for permission to appeal convictions

A judge will now decide whether Harris can make a full challenge against his convictions.

ROLF HARRIS HAS applied for permission to appeal against his convictions for a string of sex offences.

The 84-year-old Australian-born Harris was found guilty on 30 June of 12 indecent assaults against four girls, including an eight-year-old autograph hunter and a close friend of his daughter.

Harris, who had been a fixture on British television for decades, was jailed for five years and nine months for the offences, which took place between 1968 and 1986.

Appeal 

A spokesman for the Judicial Office confirmed that Harris’ lawyers had lodged a request with the Court of Appeal this week for permission to lodge an appeal.

A judge will now decide whether the artist and television star will be allowed to make a full challenge against his convictions.

The move to challenge the convictions comes days after a decision to uphold Harris’ jail sentence, despite criticism that it was too lenient.

Attorney General Jeremy Wright, the government’s chief legal advisor, received 150 complaints asking for a review, but announced on Wednesday that the jail term would not be challenged.

The guilty verdicts caused widespread revulsion in Britain, where Harris was beloved to generations of children as a family-friendly popular entertainer, and in his homeland of Australia.

The disgraced artist was made a CBE in 2006 — one step below a knighthood — and even painted a portrait of Queen Elizabeth II to celebrate the monarch’s 80th birthday.

- © AFP, 2014

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    Mute Joe Hill
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    Feb 11th 2015, 6:58 AM

    A hugely significant event in Irish history & it must be celebrated for what it was. Rightly or wrongly, this was a bloody battle where many lost their lives. It was also the sowing of the seeds of this nation. The latest fad of re-writing history & revisionism is bulls**t. It was what it was. At least the British respect & remember their dead from World Wars. Our government produce a tourism video & pretend very little happened and sure it was all a mistake anyway. Educating our children is hugely important.

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    Mute Harold
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:01 AM

    Why don’t we celebrate it every year?

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    Mute Martin Byrne
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:04 AM

    Joe – Its shameful. Self loathing paddies. I know some.You do. We all do.

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    Mute Fintan Stack
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:35 AM

    Their must a general election beforehand, to ensure this current crowd of traitors will not be in power next year. Those who fought for Ireland I’m sure would not be comfortable with those who allowed the Germans take our sovereignty lead celebrations.

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    Mute johngahan
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:40 AM

    That’s why the proclamation remarks on our alliance with Germany.

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    Mute Thomas Aquinas
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:43 AM

    We do

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    Mute Keith Ellis
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:47 AM

    Ah Jaysus Frank please, it’s too early in the morning for my head!

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    Mute Sean J. Troy
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:56 AM

    Frank, illuminati confirmed?

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    Mute Thomas Aquinas
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:36 AM

    Frank what will you do when tuesday comes and goes with nothing happening?

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    Mute David Healion
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:45 AM

    This current crowd is regaining the economic sovereignty that we lost under the Fianna Fail Government.

    Speaking of trying to rewrite history.

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    Mute LesBehan
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    Feb 11th 2015, 9:06 AM

    You need to stop watching this nonsense on YouTube Frank :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn1v4a9ygzs

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Feb 11th 2015, 9:18 AM

    At what cost David? Any? Emmigration reached it’s highest level somce the famine under THIS government.

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    Mute gerry campbell
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    Feb 11th 2015, 9:30 AM

    Those who fought for Ireland were seeking help from the Germans that time, Fintan , let’s not loose the run of ourselves.

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Feb 11th 2015, 9:39 AM

    Harold, the Rising is celebrated every year by Sinn Féin with commemorations in every county in Ireland (http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/22792). Unfortunately others do not, out of having no interest in doing so, but yet still shamelessly/lazily accuse Sinn Féin of “hijacking” it.

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    Mute TR909
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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:38 AM

    TEG, if anything FG have hijacked something they show no interest in celebrating any other year. But it is what we’ve come to expect of the Blueshirts.

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    Mute Chris Kirk
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    Feb 11th 2015, 11:08 AM

    Plainly much of that seed fell on ground where cronyism grew along with the nettles.

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    Mute Real Shinnerbot
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    Feb 11th 2015, 11:38 AM

    It is important for political purposes that Sinn Féin convinces everyone they are the only descendants of the 1916 Rising leaders.

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    Mute Ten Major
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    Feb 11th 2015, 1:57 PM

    Give it a rest ReallyFineGaelbot,if you have an opinion spit it out and stop pretending to be someone you are not. Grow a pair and debate.

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    Mute TR909
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    Feb 11th 2015, 2:54 PM

    Agree 10 Major. The whole shinnerbot thing is a bit meh!

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    Mute Real Shinnerbot
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    Feb 11th 2015, 3:14 PM

    Comrades, what would the 1916 leaders want? They would want us to stay united and re-write history, together.

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    Mute Protect Democracy!
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    Feb 11th 2015, 4:23 PM

    Sinn Fein will not take part in the official state 1916 commemorations. Seems right! They didn’t take part in the 1916 Rising either. Hijacked by Sinn Fein

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    Feb 11th 2015, 9:50 PM
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    Mute Caoimhin O Hailpin
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    Feb 11th 2015, 11:59 PM

    PD the problem is there is no official state commemoration of 1916

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    Mute An Ciarraioch
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    Feb 12th 2015, 12:43 AM

    RealShinnerbot – FG Faker Troll !

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    Mute Tim Kennedy
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    Feb 11th 2015, 6:49 AM

    Why do relatives have any more say than anyone else?

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    Mute Tim Kennedy
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    Feb 11th 2015, 6:50 AM

    Genuine question btw.

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    Mute Colm Pentony
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:30 AM

    No doubt the national hero Denis o Brien will have his seat right beside Enda on the front row

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    Mute Joe Hill
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:34 AM

    Tim, relatives have no more say than anybody else. They are just more vocal as the government parties distance themselves gradually from 1916 and anything to do with it. Wouldn’t you be more vocal if your relatives were involved & history was being rewritten & glossed over?

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    Mute Conor Power
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:41 AM

    Denis was the hero of the Esat Bribing not the Easter Rising Colm.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:42 AM

    Hey Joe Hill, I dreamed I saw you last night.

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    Mute Thomas Aquinas
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:42 AM

    Film, genuine question: what are your grounds for saying that? Has that person played any role in any major state occasion since this Government took office? Has he been present in any form at any political party event? Or are you simply taking an opportunity to have an oul whinge?

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    Mute Tim Kennedy
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:42 AM

    Thanks Joe

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    Mute Colm Pentony
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:00 AM

    Queens visit, Obamas visit to name but 2

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    Mute An Ciarraioch
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:24 AM

    Are we surprised really that FF ( the small print republicans ) hold zero veracity in this area .
    Their sole “contribution” in recent times is in assisting The Dissidents in promoting their anti Republican / SF Campaign , in the guise of Mairiea Cahill .

    Mehole and his confederates , have entirely abandoned their principles decades ago !

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    Mute Thomas Aquinas
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:25 AM

    And what role did he play?

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    Mute Alien8
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:46 AM

    It is a little know fact that Denis O’Brien’s grandfather was skipper of the Helga, the only Irish made boat involved in the rising. After the rising, he sold it to the free state where it promptly sank to the bottom of Dublin bay in an eerie precognition the families later involvement in the Celtic tiger. I think he deserves to be front and centre of the rising commemorations, where he will finally have the opportunity to say “sorry” to the Irish people. (No revisionism was used in this anecdote – fact)

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    Mute Thomas Aquinas
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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:13 AM

    Your story is little known Alien8 coz it’s bullschitt. The Helga was a research vessel pressed into naval service and armed with a small gun. It was an Irish research ship in the control of the then Irish civil service and in 1923 it was renamed the Muirchu and continued in service until 1939. It sank en route back to Dublin in 1947 where it was to be scrapped.

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    Mute Sean J. Troy
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    Feb 11th 2015, 6:52 AM

    I could be wrong, but Martin McGuiness isn’t in that picture?

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    Mute Tom Durkan
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:11 AM

    Unless that’s him on the left, in his usual Sunday clothes?? Lol

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    Mute Sean J. Troy
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:13 AM

    There are four people in the picture but five in the caption.
    *scratches head*

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    Mute Avina Laaf
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:17 AM

    Martin did a runner after yesterday’s news of the threat against his life broke…

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    Mute johngahan
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:26 AM

    Martin is also invisible in mirrors, nor does he have a shadow.

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    Mute Real Shinnerbot
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    Feb 11th 2015, 11:42 AM

    He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is not present in that photo, or is he?

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    Mute TR909
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    Feb 11th 2015, 2:52 PM

    Let’s play a game of “Where’s machine gun Marty?!!”

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    Mute Vannin
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:08 AM

    Truth and accuracy would be the best route, no glitter, no changing facts because they don’t fit in with modern views or seem too violent, gritty or seem embarassing the certain parties and definitly no politicians looking for the lime light and vote (and I’m pretty sure none of them would escape with their lives if they were stuffed into a time machine and sent back with what they’ve done… escaped British rule only to sell us to Europe)

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    Mute Real Shinnerbot
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    Feb 11th 2015, 11:47 AM

    Changing historical facts is a useful tool to help the Struggle.

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    Mute Vannin
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    Feb 11th 2015, 12:18 PM

    Eh, what? Its usually the winners that try to rewrite history usually with unproven accusations which they say over again, and again, and again as they have no evidence or proof to back themselves up as if they did, they would produce it.

    Maybe it would be best to say a prayer for all on both sides of any past conflict, and try to live in a modern society, learning from these past mistakes and respecting what those who fell for their beliefs and the victims all of which just wanted a better Ireland.

    Don’t paint over history, use it to make the world a better place, not a twisted hate filled one.

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    Mute Con
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:03 AM

    Harold , a lot of people commemorate the Easier Rising every year, And Wear an Easter Lily With Pride in memory of of our Patriot Dead.

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    Mute Ivon Itchie Saq
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:14 AM

    All I see is SF trying to hijack the anniversary

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    Mute Wayne O'Fathaigh
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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:22 AM

    Nah they are trying to lay down a claim and link themselves to an event that they played no part on or had nothing to do with

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    Mute Brian Ward
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:25 AM

    They got blamed for it by the Brits didn’t they?

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    Mute Wayne O'Fathaigh
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:32 AM

    Brian I am due the party that split on two in the 70′s is just the same as Arthur Griffith envisioned

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    Mute Thomas Aquinas
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:37 AM

    What about the one that adopted the Treaty in 1921?

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    Mute Alien8
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:56 AM

    Everyone left the party that negotiated the treaty. The shell that was abandoned when CnG and Fianna Fail left, left a few die hard Griffith supporters. As shown in the Sinn Fein funds case, what grew from this had nothing to do with the original party. The current incantation – unofficially the “Kevin street/provisional/sinn fein” splinter are more of a homeopathy tribute act than the bearers of the original torch with as much claim to the 1916 as Declan Ganley’s party.

    That said, having O’Cuiv and his ilk claiming ownership is particularly galling. Why not just organise a big concert in the phoenix park and be done with it.

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    Mute TR909
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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:41 AM

    Sorry to disappoint you boys and your claim that SF have “hijacked” the commemoration but SF are the only party who have annual Easter rising commemorations all over Ireland. That is fact and no amount of blueshirt bluster can change that.

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    Mute Ivon Itchie Saq
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    Feb 11th 2015, 12:39 PM

    Tr609 I’m no blueshirt never have never will I just expressed my opinion on what I’ve seen and SF are making me feel alienated in something that I feel is a huge part of my history, just because I don’t support SF politically doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to celebrate the anniversary of the 1916 rising, rant finished.

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Feb 11th 2015, 1:00 PM

    Ivon, Sinn Féin organise their own 1916 Commemorative events programme each and every year, in every county in Ireland. If you don’t feel comfortable attending a Sinn Féin one, then that’s your decision, but if you can find no alternative one to go to because nobody else took it upon themselves to organise anything, then the blame lies with them for alienating you. Not with Sinn Féin.

    I really do tire of this straw man argument every year from some quarters – “we couldn’t be bothered organising any/a proper 1916 commemoration, but if Sinn Féin do, then they’re just hijacking it”. Pathetic.

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Feb 11th 2015, 2:50 PM

    Shinners are trying to claim Easter 1916 for themselves, not commemorate it. Pathetic.

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    Mute TR909
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    Feb 11th 2015, 3:00 PM

    The only thing pathetic Diarmuid is your argument. SF have every right to commemorate the 1916 rising. As does every other political party. It just seems to the nation that the FG one is going to be a damp squib. They seem more interested in laying wreaths on Remembrance Sunday than they do in organising a commemoration befitting the heroes if 1916.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 3:09 PM

    They should do both. And Sinn Fein should also commemorate both, if they claim to be the all-inclusive all-Ireland republicans they claim to be.

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    Mute Ivon Itchie Saq
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    Feb 11th 2015, 3:50 PM

    Exactly it shouldn’t be political but it very clearly is, its our history and should be treated as such politics aside I’d rather see an independent crowd arrange the celebrations

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    Feb 11th 2015, 4:05 PM

    Of course they should do both Diarmuid, I’m not saying they shouldn’t. But the manner in which they’ve tried and failed miserably to organise a commemoration befitting these men, is nothing short of a national disgrace. If SF want to do something to remember their fellow republicans, then that is their right. Hopefully Enda can be bothered too.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 6:04 PM

    They’ve definitely made a mess of it so far, but there’s over a year to go. I reckon they’ll get it reasonably right in the end, with all the public pressure on them

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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:56 AM

    “Fianna Fáil says” anyone care what they say

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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:29 AM

    How long does the SF panto run in the Ambassador ?

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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:46 AM

    The FG/lab “Shameless” panto has been running far to long it’s time to bring it to an end the useless traitors.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:12 AM

    Too true Martin, there is no shame in how this Government has kept the country progressing. It is indeed shameless.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:44 AM

    Progressing? It’s the lower working classes who’ve been squeezed and squeezed again to keep this country going. It is they who have propped up the disgusting status quo that we have in this 2 tier Irish society. It is they who are heroes and the elite who should be ashamed.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 2:03 PM

    Why are you looking for an audition?

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    Feb 12th 2015, 12:02 AM

    John Gahan hates everything Irish and cries himself to sleep every night over the fact that his beloved British empire is no more

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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:18 AM

    I’m shattered! No Brian O’ Driscoll mentioned.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:04 AM

    I love FF/FG/LAB have even before the celebration already sunk the entire event with their horrid plans. Fair play to SF for offering this alternative. For anyone who thinks SF has ‘hijacked’ the celebration, ask yourself why the party you support is not offering something that everyone will support or enjoy? You can’t ‘hijack’ a celebration or holiday, you can only plan a poor event which is so bad no one wants to attend, and that is on you.

    How brilliant will it be when the number of people, citizens, tourists, and visitors who attend the events rank the SF events higher than the governments plans? FG/FF/LAB are just worried their sterilized version of 1916 will not match up to the 4th Of July style celebration SF have planned. The government will once again come away looking like eejits who sank the centenary, something that will go on the books forever and always be there as a reminder of how unfit they were for office.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:17 AM

    1916 rising robbed Ireland of its chance to become a full independent country . Independence would have come to Ireland eventually if the Irish people had wish it without the bloodbath in the north and the hatred that exists between the people on both sides of the border .

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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:51 AM

    Tommy, you are the definition of naivety.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:55 AM

    TR great answer but means nothing when you can’t back it up with a reason .

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    Feb 11th 2015, 11:15 AM

    Tommy, what happened in the northern counties happened because of partition.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 11:33 AM

    Is the rising not been celebrated because it lead to our independence . Was it not one of the conditions of independence that Ireland was partition .

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    Mute Tír Eoghain Gael
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    Feb 11th 2015, 12:20 PM

    A partitioned country is not an independent country.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 12:46 PM

    All countries where partition at sometime that’s why the map of the world is what it is .

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    Feb 11th 2015, 1:12 PM

    I’ll rephrase:

    Ireland, after being illegally partitioned at gunpoint, and presently having the right denied to it’s people to vote as one island for it’s reunification, cannot be described as being Independent. Pearse and Connolly did not fight for 26 counties. Nor did another signatory to the Proclamation – Tom Clarke, from Dungannon, County Tyrone.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 2:19 PM

    Tommy – What you have is a theory, and guess what? It can never be proven so who really cares? We play the hand we are dealt, and in this case we are a free country and this is because of the men who died giving us that freedom. You can either support the founders of our country or you can hate this country, but you do not get to speak ill of the men of 1916 and what they did and call yourself a good Irishman as you are a traitor who dishonours what they died for and how this country actually was founded.

    Either you stand up and support the men and women who founded this country or you serve as a disgrace to everyone here today who lives in our wonderful nation an enjoys their hard fought freedom.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 2:35 PM

    Sternn, if Tom Clarke from Country Tyrone and signatory of the Proclamation were alive today, I’d imagine he too would take great exception to your claim that we are a free country. We are not a free country yet. We are country with 26 freed counties and 6 still unfreed.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 2:43 PM

    Sterm no disrespect but your comment sounds like something out of Nazi Germany. You clearly don’t believe that people have a opinion on the history of there own country . To call someone a traitor because they do not share the same opinion as yourself is clearly a step backwards in the world of free speech . Everything you just said clearly goes against what a independent Ireland stands for where the people can express themselves without been intimidated .

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    Feb 11th 2015, 2:48 PM

    Acceptance of the principle of consent means both Ireland and Northern Ireland are indeed free. Free to decide whatever they want.

    The principle of consent was accepted by Irish people, north and south, in the Good Friday Agreement. It was accepted by Sinn Fein and Unionists.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 3:24 PM

    Tommy, did you serve with the British Army in the Six Counties?

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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:47 AM

    I would not often agree with FF but SF are clearly trying to dictate history of their making and liking. As they are trying to do quite successfully on their former Brits out campsign.

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    Mute TR909
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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:44 AM

    Zzzz

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    Mute B-Egan
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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:09 AM

    Go to the Ambassador theatre watch the re-enactments learn a little history . Or just wait for imperialist minded government to put out some watered down shite that makes their cowardice look acceptable.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:00 AM

    Why delete my comment?

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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:01 AM

    Wow…just wow.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 7:18 AM

    ?

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    Mute Barça Alona
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    Feb 11th 2015, 9:53 AM

    The government made a hames of it (Bono and Geldof, FFS!); others were right to step in to fill that gap. FG should go off and plan the commemoration of the death of the Irish Parliamentary Party – killed off by Sinn Féin. That anniversary is in 2018! They’ll have loads of time to do that after the election. Dust off your John Redmond portrait, Taoiseach.

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    Mute Tap Solny
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    Feb 11th 2015, 9:54 AM

    Unelected armed gunmen responsible for the deaths of thousands. Nothing to celebrate.

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    Mute TR909
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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:49 AM

    We’re celebrating the actions of our glorious 1916 dead, not the disgusting actions of centuries of murder by the disgraced British army. I cannot wait to feel the buzz in Dublin that week. It truly will be a fantastic time for all our citizens to remember that these brave heroes died for Ireland’s freedom.

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    Mute Ivon Itchie Saq
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    Feb 11th 2015, 12:41 PM

    Then don’t celebrate it tap nobody is asking you

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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:17 AM

    Celebrate a military farce that dragged the country down a path of war & subsequently burdened the country with the offspring of that insanity, If only General Maxwell didn’t create martyrs.

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    Mute Brian Ward
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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:28 AM

    That military farce means that my tricolour takes priority over your Union Jack in my country.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 8:34 AM

    Actually the period of 1918-1948 did that not 1916

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    Feb 11th 2015, 9:32 AM

    The Easter Rising lit the spark that led to the Tan War and partial independence. Ireland still has it’s full independence to be achieved. 26 down, 6 to go.

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    Mute TR909
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    Feb 11th 2015, 10:46 AM

    Not long TEG. Even moderate unionists know a United Ireland is inevitable.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 12:14 PM

    Unfortunately there is no evidence a majority of Catholics in NI would vote for a UI, never mind a majority of Protestants.

    People are content with the new status quo and the “Northern Irish” nationality is rising dramatically, especially amongst Catholics, as evidenced by recent census figures.

    SF realise this and have settled for cushy regional UK local government jobs, despite the odd token volley of “republican” rhetoric here or there.

    At least we have relative peace, which is the most important thing.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 2:33 PM

    Diarmuid, regardless of what you say the British long term goal is to get out of NI without encouraging the Scots to do the same. If the Scots do go independent, then there is no impediment other than keeping stability. The long term goal of Irish governments going back some time now has been to keep NI at arms length. It doesn’t suit the hegemony. The census in NI only shows us that Northern nationalists feel rejected by the Southern establishment, hence the rise in ‘Northern Irish’ as an identity marker. Can you blame them? One thing the NI census does show is a dramatic drop in the number of people who define themselves as British. Movements might be glacial now but it is all in one direction. When the Republic abandons the role model of self-loathing Irishman with Stockholm Syndrome, anything could happen and fast. Politics is like that.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 2:57 PM

    The UK will keep NI as a constituent part until a majority of people in NI choose otherwise. It is silly to suggest the British want to hive off a section of their State.

    Dramatic drop in “Irish” in NI, less of a drop in “British”. Opinion polls show he number of Northern Catholics wanting unity to be diminishing steadily since the height of the troubles. Would be surprising if half would vote for unity now.

    All the major Irish parties have wanted unification for decades. Sinn Fein is not the only party wanting unification.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 3:21 PM

    Stick to the census,the unionist Belfast Telegraph a sister paper of the Indo was the only poll taken and is so out of kilter with any previous surveys to render it dross. The fact that the Republic’s economy had taken a nose dive was not lost on those polled so a reality of a UI was obviously curtailed but the aspiration is a different matter. The demographic is moving in only one direction sometimes slow sometime not so slow.
    Britain has no emotional attachment to NI, strategic maybe. They would happily go for repartition.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 3:42 PM

    The demographic is moving towards a cosy Northern Irish centre ground. The vast majority of Protestants will obviously stay in the UK. A majority of Catholics would vote to stay in the UK too and that majority will continue to grow, following the trend since the height of the Troubles.

    No longer any imperative on Northern Catholics to escape oppression etc. by uniting with the south. Shared space, shared future and all that.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 4:06 PM

    Money papers over the cracks is what you are really saying. Time will tell.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 9:56 PM

    Dairmuid have you just done an “Anglo” another crazy statement pulled from your arse.

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    Feb 12th 2015, 12:06 AM

    I do not know a chairde why ye keep answering somebody with a chimp as his avatar

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    Feb 12th 2015, 5:57 AM

    Your shinner bot matriarch Were Jammin has a monkey as an avatar.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 9:46 AM

    SF must have deep pockets to fund their shindig. How many

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    Feb 11th 2015, 4:44 PM

    What independence do we have a hundred years after so many people gave their lives for the cause? We can’t sneeze without permission from our EU overlords. We have people being evicted from their homes, mass emigration, a disastrous medical system and children going without necessities of life because we willingly gave away our hard won freedom to the Troika. Does anyone really believe the founders of our state would see anything to celebrate a hundred years on?

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    Feb 11th 2015, 11:49 AM

    Should have had a vote to decide it last night, I doubt SF would have abstained from that vote……

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    Feb 11th 2015, 5:29 PM

    I’m not particularly relishing the idea of these “celebrations” next year, and the inevitable (if rather nauseating) debate as to which political party are the “rightful heirs” to the 1916 leaders. In the first place, is it appropriate to celebrate an event which brought about the deaths of 450 people, the vast majority of whom (356 in total) were Irish?

    Is it appropriate to celebrate an event which led to all out war which resulted in the deaths of a further 2,014 people, again the majority of whom were Irish, and 750 of whom were innocent civilians?

    Is it appropriate to celebrate an event which set a contemporary-age precedent for a violent tradition in Irish republicanism which continued on a large-scale basis up to recently, and which lives on in the minds of a tiny but dangerous minority of people on this island? A tradition which has cost the lives of thousands of people in Britain and Ireland through the latter part 20th century.

    I suggest that it isn’t appropriate.

    I think it is more appropriate to have a simple and respectful commemoration (rather than celebration) of all the lives that have been lost since 1916 as a result of political conflict on these islands over the last 90 years.

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    Feb 11th 2015, 3:22 PM

    Sinn Fein deserve this in fairness

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