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Demonstration to close 'inhumane' direct provision centre in Limerick taking place today

Four men went on hunger strike this week due to the conditions.

A DEMONSTRATION WILL be held later today calling for the closure of a Direct Provision centre in Limerick.

Doras Luimní, an NGO based in Limerick, believes that Mount Trenchard has garnered a reputation as the centre used as a “form of punishment”, as well as one to accommodate individuals with challenging behaviour and complex cases.

Karen McHugh is the CEO of Doras Luimní and she says: “Mount Trenchard epitomises all of the major failures of Direct Provision.

“Mount Trenchard as an institution cannot and does not meet the mental health needs of its residents: there is very limited support available for a very vulnerable group.

The isolation of Mount Trenchard and its overcrowded and inhumane living conditions sees eight male adults of different nationalities sharing a room.

The demonstration will be held at 2pm today in Limerick city centre on Bedford Row and the corner of O’Connell Street.

The Justice Department said ,”Decisions on the opening or closures of centres are taken in line with the need for accommodation at any time.

“The Reception & Integration Agency will continue to monitor its requirement for Mount Trenchard, as with all other centres, in line with the needs of asylum seekers and in accordance with Government policy.”

RIA accommodates approximately 4,300 persons and has accommodated over 52,000 persons since April 2000.

Mount Trenchard is situated in an isolated rural area in Foynes, Limerick – the nearest town is three to four miles away. Fifty-four people are living in the centre.

Four men went on hunger strike this week due to the conditions.

Last week, two asylum seekers were transferred to new accommodation on the same day they took part in a protest outside the centre.

Doras Luimní’s call for the immediate closure of Mount Trenchard is being supported by the Irish Refugee Council.

Its CEO Sue Conlan said: “The Reception and Integration Agency of the Department of Justice does not appear to have taken seriously the issues that have been raised with them in the past about Mount Trenchard.”

Read: Four on hunger strike at “extremely volatile” Direct Provision centre>

Read: Appalled”: Two asylum seekers transferred after protests at Direct Provision centre>

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    Mute Dublinjonny
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:00 PM

    As much as I believe the conditions these people are subjected to unacceptable . I also could care less about issues of the centers location in regards to towns etc etc . I’m tired of listing to Asylum Seekers complaining about this country . They are firstly more than welcome to return home were not forcing them to stay here . Secondly , and I will state again that the issues in this article need to be sorted , asylum seekers have some expectation of accommodation and living conditions like the rest of the population . For those who may have a Liberal approach and disagree with me , with the exception of the direct provision joke we actually do far more and offer far more to asylum seekers than most of our EU counterparts . They would be on the first plane out if they started protest and hunger strikes. I’m not saying we are perfect , but what they should be entitled to Vs what they expect are very far apart.

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    Mute Michael
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:05 PM

    These people claim they are here because they had nothing in their own country, we give them something and they complain it’s not enough! Meantime Irish people are being thrown out of their homes and onto the streets.

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    Mute Brian Leddin
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:09 PM

    Have you got anything to back up your assertion that we do far more for asylum seekers than other EU countries. I don’t think that’s true so would like to see some evidence.

    Also, it’s a bit glib to say they can return to where they came from. The reason they are here is because they claim to be facing persecution in their own countries. If anything we should be processing their applications more speedily rather than keeping people in deplorable conditions for up to ten years in some cases.

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    Mute Michael
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:13 PM

    Brian, the alleged reason they are here is persecution in their own country? Majority of them can’t prove it, just economic migrants who want to live in Europe. We can’t support everyone!

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    Mute Brian Leddin
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:21 PM

    How about providing some evidence before making wild assertions?

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    Mute Michael
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:24 PM

    Brian, they’re the ones who need to provide evidence! They don’t, they also tear up their passports!

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    Mute Brian Leddin
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:34 PM

    Do we do more for asylum seekers than most EU countries, as has been claimed above? If so, let’s see the evidence.

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    Mute Andrea Rock Massey
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:43 PM

    Brian, the reason why most of the people are in DP for so long is because they launch so many different appeals once their initial application has been rejected. That would suggest that their claims of persecution are not genuine. I do feel that the whole system is flawed and that the genuine asylum seekers suffer as a consequence. I just don’t know what the solution is to be honest.

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    Mute Danny Rigg
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:23 PM

    Do you guys realise how difficult it is to prove that someone is being persecuted in a country hundreds of miles away, if not more, that is most likely in some sort of turmoil or is plagued with corruption? How is someone meant to prove that their life is being threatened in some country in Africa? What about all the people fleeing conflict and persecution in countries like Libya, Egypt and Syria? What about countries with huge rates of crime, corruption or gang influence where they could quite likely be in direct danger? What hard evidence could they possibly provide?

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    Mute Andrea Rock Massey
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:31 PM

    Danny, I think the people fleeing from those countries are considered refugees and not asylum seekers. As far as I know, it’s a completely different process. I don’t really know what happens in terms of countries that have gangs and corruption etc. Mexico would spring to mind there but I don’t think people claiming asylum from there would be successful either.

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    Mute Danny Rigg
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:44 PM

    In some cases they’re immediately given refugee status, but in many other cases they are an asylum seeker before they’re given that status. My point still remains though, if someone wants to fill me in on how exactly they’d prove anything.

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    Mute Danny Rigg
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:46 PM

    Also, all those people attempting to cross the Mediterranean aren’t immediately considered refugees, are they? People in refugee camps in surrounding countries generally have to be admitted into the camps first.

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    Mute Danny Rigg
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:47 PM

    Many third world countries have major gang problems, the war lords in Somalia are just glorified gang leaders

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    Mute John R
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 3:00 PM

    Danny, serious crime, fear of your live from serious crime, gang influence and corruption is are not grounds for seeking asylum. The grounds must relate to actions deriving directly from neglect on the part of the State party which leads to a justifiable fear of persecution or threat to the life of the person seeking asylum.

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    Mute Bambi Keeling
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 3:14 PM

    @micheal when it comes to free healthcare and education we do.

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    Mute Danny Rigg
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 8:39 PM

    I meant that those are things that can both be a threat to the person’s life and well being, and be what prevents evidence being made available to prove it. Corruption and the gangs/war lords in various countries make life a living hell and prevent anything from being done about it in that country, and when the people leave there isn’t any evidence to prove it. That’s just one scenario. Seriously answer this, how are they supposed to prove anything?

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    Mute Scipio
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:02 PM

    I bet I can guess what Doras Luimní”s solution would be. Close the place down, and let these people loose on society, without any corroboration of their back stories.
    The fact that they showed up in Ireland to claim asylum, should be enough to make the authorities highly suspicious of their claims.

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    Mute Sinéad L
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 11:56 AM

    Sick of this

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    Mute Martin Hayes
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:42 PM

    First of all I’d ship out all the D4 bleeding hearts that flock to these “causes”, primarily because they’ve feck all else to do with their time except find new ways to spend everybody else’s money.
    These “asylum seekers” arrive here supposedly with nothing but very quickly become expert in all aspects of our laws and constitution. Didn’t we have to amend the constitution to stop pregnant women arriving here and claiming citizenship on the basis of the child being Irish born? Where did they get this information when many of them couldn’t speak English.

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    Mute Dee4
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:12 PM

    one way ticket and give them a 1000 euro if they promise not to come back here in their lifetime. The system is a joke either let them in and let them sink or swim with no access to any free social services for 5 years and see how they get on or send them back for not coming here using proper channels.
    The welfare system and lefty do gooders are going to bring the system down.

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    Mute Snorre Sturleson
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:01 PM

    I suggest we have the whole lot of them sent back to where they came from to savour the largesse of their respective native countries. Naturally a one way ticket and shame on us for being so accomodating to such ingrates.

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    Mute Snorre Sturleson
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:05 PM

    I suggest that Doras Luimní, Irish Refugee Council and fellow liberal wallahs be sent on a fact finding mission to see how ISIS cope with Direct Provision.

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    Mute the flying picket
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:30 PM

    Good idea close down these centres and send them back home ,im sure they will remember very quickly why they left in the first place !

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    Mute Laura Hogan
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:35 PM

    I thought asylum seekers had to claim asylum in the first port/airport they arrive in. No direct flights to Ireland from any African country. Why dont they claim refugee status in england instead of coming here and then complaining? if they were really running for their lives surely then any country they arrive in woul be better than where they left?

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    Mute Ryan Carroll
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 4:44 PM

    The Dublin II regulation says you have to stop in the first EU member state and apply there. There are no direct flights from Africa, so they ought be turned around at the airport, told ”there are no direct flights from Africa, this is not the first EU state you came to, you are on a return flight in half an hour” and then locked in a holding room with no talk, and no debate, until their flight leaves.

    Sorry but thats the rules, maybe the rest of us should chip into a fund to help the EU border states with implementation of the Dublin Regulation but we have to enforce it.
    The reason we don’t at the moment is complex:
    1. There is a family unity clause which means you can’t break up familys, so someone they wanted to deal with as I suggest above might say have family already here and we can’t break them up, my answer to that would be send them all back to the EU state they came from together, that way were NOT breaking them up
    2. There are ”take back” clauses in the Dublin Regulation where the other EU states are meant to take them back but they refuse or drag out the process, IMO don’t ask them, just send them over on the plane, if we have to keep flying them back and forth for 6 months non stop so be it until they take them in, it’s their legal responsibility, they should not have signed up to the regulation if they didn’t want it.

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    Mute Bekie Nana Brits
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 8:18 PM

    If you dont mind i would like to invite you to know me personally as a human being , I would take up anyone to come to where i live , I have been in asylum with my son for 8 years living in one room , if you dont mind to stay with us for a weekend , i will try to sneak you in to the hostel and you can spend 2 days with us , not as a statistic or number or stereotype but as a human being . I will tell you about my trip here and any question you might want to ask . The thing that worries me the most is the hate that is directed towards statistics

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    Mute Mike Cantwell
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 9:02 PM

    Now Bekie tell me honestly , how many times have you appealed against deportation orders ? , many Irish people feel that we are being told lies by people who arrive here claiming Asylum , people who have travelled through other countries without making a claim and yet come to Ireland the westernmost country in Europe with no direct flights to Africa , to be honest we are more than suspicious

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    Aug 22nd 2014, 9:15 PM

    P.S I am not nigerian !! I have never been given a deportation order . Irish people should be suspicious and rightly so because they are not being given facts and everything is assumptions and people feel like they are being taken for a ride , That is why i said if anyone wants to know more its better to talk in person looking at the paper work and answering direct questions with no assumptions . If after all the questions you have asked you still feel the anger at least you will have a reason to hate . If you have a weekend to spare then contact me . PS my lil boy is a storyteller you might sleep late .

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    Mute Mike Cantwell
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 9:22 PM

    Now Bekie I never mentioned any country ,but do explain how you can be in direction for 8 years ? Keep it short , why is it you have not been given leave to stay ?

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    Aug 22nd 2014, 9:42 PM

    I came here when my son was 2 months , he is 8 now , I dont know why i have not been given leave to stay , I am still waiting for a response . I check the post everyday for the past 8 years at 1pm thats when the mail nomarly arrives . That is why i said on the comment box it will be difficult to know me or know more .In person human to human all the questioned will answered .

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    Mute Mike Cantwell
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 10:28 PM

    For feck’s sake Bekie who do you think you are fooling ? Are you familiar with saying ” telling porkies ” ?

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    Mute Bekie Nana Brits
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 10:41 PM

    I Dont have to fool anyone , that is why i said come to where i live and talk to me . I have nothing to win so talking to someone wont make a difference ,At least when you come and comment here you will have an idea of how to be mad at asylum seekers .

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    Mute jimfaulkner
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:58 PM

    No papers/ no passport……..no entry! All of these people were in another EU country before here….deport them straight away and see if they would continue their protest.

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    Mute Ryan Carroll
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 4:45 PM

    They do have papers and a passport, you can’t claim asylum without them.

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    Aug 22nd 2014, 2:13 PM

    This is all just coz Ireland failed to lash out the freebies as quickly / easily as they’d heard so much about in their own toilet countries!! Not our problem, we never invited them, we don’t need them & we resent our Tax €€’s going to fund cosy, idle lives, free gratis for them. Planes fly both ways outa Ireland, let them take their well doctored sob stories elsewhere.

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    Mute Ryan Carroll
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 4:40 PM

    They don’t get any freebies in fairness other than basic healthcare food and education. Their spending money is only 19euro a week, 9 per child.

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    Mute Sinéad L
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:19 PM

    On a unrelated note “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter” is a quote us Irish could do with living by.

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    Mute Alan Farrell
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:35 PM

    Could n’t agree more, How does Ireland benefit from importing more poverty, ignorance, and disease.

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    Mute Utility Worker Perth
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 2:19 PM

    Ship them out and back to their original country. Ungrateful scammers.

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    Mute Gerald Horgan
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 4:21 PM

    and you reside where ?

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    Mute Ryan Carroll
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 5:00 PM

    I was just thinking, if were going to toss out the Dublin Regulation there are other ways we could take the genuine people in without doing what we do now.

    Lets have a sponsorship system. They can apply from the home country, online. Put their circumstances up online and if an Irish citizen sponsors them they can come stay with them. They fly in, and the refugees or customs agency verify s their situation in whatever way they normally do, then off they do to the leafy suburbs. They can stay there, ala the Spanish students.
    We still cover their food, education and medical care. Give them a medical card and a debit card that is locked to only deal with certain purchases, they get an unlimited leap card, and no cash. This way they get all the safety and security from persecution without having to live in a crowded convention centre, and we can pluck out the really genuine cases from the scammars.

    Then, within 3 months of arrival, in order to keep asylum they have to get a job. They can keep the medical card and leap card after that but the debit card is withdrawn. Whatever job they get has to be on the same rate of pay as an Irish member of staff with the same level of experience would get. Then when they are working enough they can move out and get their own place.

    Now, you tell me a genuine asylum seeker who would turn down that deal, living in a real home, you get 3 months to find a job and adjust to the country, you get free travel and medical care and a large food allowance, then after that you can go to work and move into your own place, have a new life and contribute back to the country that rescued you.
    Course this would have to mean the commitment of the upper middle class Irish who claim to care is genuine enough for them to want to take them into their own home. I often think there is a class of rich brat in Ireland that think they can play at poverty or play at caring about it then head home to their bubble afterward, it’s something I’ve always found obnoxious coming from a very low income background, there is something not authentic about it. Like the Belvo boys doing the homeless experience each year, sitting there without any apparent irony with a mochaachino and wifi service cruzing facebook on their laptops while talking to their mates on blue tooth headsets….real genuine experience of the poor lads…..so lets test that commitment…see how real it is.

    If I’d a spare room in my gaff (and I owned it) I’d be more than happy to take one in for a few weeks/months if I thought they were genuine….would those of you bellowing about discrimination and injustice do the same?

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    Mute Niall Sheridan
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 11:42 AM

    Name and shame the profiteering bas*ards who own it.

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    Mute George Grey
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 11:56 AM

    “Appalling” is the only description that comes to mind. As a participant in the “developed world” we let ourselves down so badly. We will be judged by how we treat those less fortunate than ourselves.

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    Mute anne-marie kelly
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 5:15 PM

    For poor, persecuted, traumatised “victims” these people sure know how to play the system & manipulate the media. Maybe those people would prefer to be in Nauru or Yarls Wood? Look at the thanks that other countries got for helping foreign ingrates, as in, 9/11, 7/7, Bali, etc etc. And it’s s matter of when, not if, it’s gonna be Ireland’s turn next.

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    Mute Eoin Finnegan
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 10:03 PM

    What you mean by “these people”? Secondly, when I first became unemployed, I had no idea what I should do to get social welfare, rent allowance etc, but I quickly learned. I think after a couple of years living in the conditions they live in they would have tried finding out if there are ways of making their life better. Hardly a surprise they might learn how to apply for things they are entitled to. Can’t see how they are manipulating the media to be honest, it’s mainly Irish citizens calling for change.
    As for the rest of your comment, it’s just idiotic

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    Mute Eoin Finnegan
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:12 PM

    It amazes me how many people can make sweeping generalisations about how “they” do this and that. The stories about people abusing the system are the ones we hear about because they are the stories that sell, not because they are the standard approach taken by asylum seekers. Yes, some abuse the system but these are the exception, not the rule. I’m all for weeding out those found to be breaking the rules but this idea of send them back where they came from if they complain is crazy. We have a bad history of ignoring the complaints of those in state institutions in this country and need to start listening. We may decide that their complaints are not valid but at least we need to listen before deciding and telling them to shut up and count themselves lucky for what they are given.

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    Mute Martin Hayes
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 2:46 PM

    As has been stated many times ” Why are they here?”, they will have had to pass through at least one other EU country to get here. What’s so appealing about Ireland? When they have answered that question to my satisfaction, I might start to believe there are no ulterior motives. If their situation is so desperate, surely they would stay in the first available safe haven.

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    Aug 22nd 2014, 3:23 PM

    Amazing that those who complain most about people abusing the system or trying to bend the rules are the same ones who use that question to stop Ireland having any asylum seekers to deal with. That rule was not put in place to stop Ireland (who are the one of the few EU countries not to have direct flights to countries where asylum seekers come from) from having to deal with a fair share of asylum seekers. It’s a loophole that some Irish are trying to hide behind. The reality is that we have some asylum seekers and we are housing them in a way that is discriminatory and causes massive problems. On average, one in ten children in direct provision have had a child protection issue, four times the national average. But sure, why would we address this when we can spend time deciding how to shove the problem elsewhere.

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    Aug 22nd 2014, 4:37 PM

    That’s evading the issue IMO. The fact remains, these people were in another EU country where they could have claimed asylum but didn’t. Why? Why are there thousands of people living in the French channel ports waiting to sneak into the UK? The benefits system is the answer.

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    Mute Eoin Finnegan
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 5:15 PM

    Actually, you are avoiding the issue. We are not discussing whether we should take some asylum seekers in, we are discussing the fact that the conditions we are housing them in are not suitable. The discussion now is not Where/Why/How are they here? The discussion is why have we got them housed like this and how can we make it better.

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    Mute Martin Hayes
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 5:58 PM

    They are housed, fed, clothed, given access to medical attention and given a weekly allowance. Something which is not always available to our own citizens. If they don’t like it they can go home.

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    Mute Eoin Finnegan
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 7:03 PM

    With the exception of the meagre allowance, all of those things were given in every institution the state or religious orders have run in our history. Look how they worked out…

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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:14 PM

    All the comments here should be put on the Failte Ireland website to showcase how the Irish really are…
    Abusing their own and also abusing others.. Thousand welcomes me bollix.

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    Mute Martin Hayes
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:32 PM

    Actually it’s a hundred thousand welcomes but that’s for people we expect to spend money and go home again.

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    Mute Bigus Bear
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:50 PM

    You should tell that to the “undocumented” Irish abroad if you are to practice what you preach…

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    Aug 22nd 2014, 2:02 PM

    The “undocumented Irish” are not claiming asylum. Chances are, if they’re discovered they’ll be put on the first available flight out, never to be allowed access again.

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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:33 PM

    To Scipo looks like you are the Troll… Jack has feelings for poor humans who fled wars and torture.

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    Mute Sinéad L
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:53 PM

    Wake up Denise

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    Mute Scipio
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:27 PM

    Denise maybe you should invite of these poor humans to live with you in your home. It seems like you are taking their stories at the word, so if your heart bleeds that much, put a roof over their heads.

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    Mute J. Dunn
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 4:21 PM

    Denise has previously extolled the virtues of a world without borders and countries.

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    Mute Gerald Horgan
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 4:24 PM

    @Scipio If they same to your house ..
    they would never leave …
    Odd the Israeli state treats African migrants much worse .. (and some of them are Jewish)

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    Mute Scipio
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 4:26 PM

    Sounds like she would make a good citizen for the new ISIS caliphate. They also believe in a world of open borders.

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    Mute Tristan Ua Ceithearnaigh
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 2:11 PM

    To have 8 adults sharing one room is discraceful and backward, it is absolutely dispicable that people have been kept in isolation and containment in these conditions ,5 miles from the nearest town , treating refugees like animals is only going to cause resentment and distrust, not the type of impression that Ireland should give to people who want to become part of our society. Ireland is morally obliged to treat people harboring from illtreatment, distress and trauma who seek sanctuary here for whatever reason with dignity and respect.

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    Mute John R
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 3:09 PM

    Tristan, how are they being treated like animals? They fled from alleged persecution in fear of their lives. They are in a safe country with a roof over their heads, three good meals a day and a small State stipend. They have medical cards and access to first and second level education. How is that being treated like an animal? Can we have a bit of balance please in the discussion? Is it because in this case they are five miles from the nearest town? Horrendous. There must be hundreds of thousands of Irish rural dwellers on the cusp of suing the State because they are being “treated like animals”. They are not being kept in “containment”. They can leave the centre any time they want and come and go as they please. Being five miles form the nearest town is not a a form of “isolation”.

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    Mute Danny Rigg
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 8:43 PM

    Rural dwellers choose to live where they live, people in DP don’t have that choice. They can come and go as they please, but what are they supposed to do 5 miles away from the nearest town?

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    Mute Mike Cantwell
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 9:14 PM

    Danny they have the choice to apply for Asylum in the first European country they arrive in , they shouldn’t feel a need to come here

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    Mute Jack Dexter
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:14 PM

    Let’s be fair The refugees should be giving council housing before anyone else because they fled their homes for their lives. I’m Scottish and have a council flat here in Dublin and I wouldn’t have minded if I had to wait for the flat,

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    Mute Scipio
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:20 PM

    Too obvious mate. Try and be a little more subtle with your trolling.

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    Mute Dublinjonny
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:23 PM

    Yea the reason you have a flat jack is you are an EU citizen . Go any where else and see how it works out for you . Citizens of this country are been drove out of their home by banks , families with young children living in car . Boll**ks to giving some Nigerian businessman with money and connections a flat to live comfortably and run his business from here with the sole intention of his children being educated here and gaining citizenship so they can go live in France in 10 years ……

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    Mute IrishGravyTrain
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:28 PM

    I disagree with what you said. You must be a Troll. Lol.

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    Mute Jack Dexter
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:29 PM

    @Scipo You have a neck to call me a Troll with a profile like yours. I speak the truth and I’m not your mate either.

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    Aug 22nd 2014, 12:34 PM

    I’ll see you in the pub later Jack.

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    Mute Snorre Sturleson
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 1:02 PM

    When you do, ask him what is under his kilt…in his case it HAS to be a load of b@llix

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    Mute Gerald Horgan
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 4:25 PM

    @Scipio the journal.ie is your pub

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    Mute noel bailey
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    Aug 22nd 2014, 3:22 PM

    The do gooders never let up.until this country is finally and completely on its knees

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    Mute Garry Whelan
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    Sep 17th 2014, 12:29 PM

    Have you being asleep since 2008, this country has been on its knees . It wasnt asylum seekers, refugees,or forign migrants that brought it to its knees. but Irish politicians with the conniviance of the Financial elites.

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    Mute Paulo Vero
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    Aug 25th 2014, 11:19 AM

    Just one question,How many Irish citizen are living in American ,Australia Illegally and working peacefully?Are they not there on economic reasons?They did not seek Asylum REF .http://www.latimes.com/la-op-rodriguez8apr08-column.html ,http://www.irishcentral.com/news/increasing-number-of-irish-working-illegally-in-australia-123708654-237392961.html How many times have you heard that they want to deport them to Ireland?
    well i just think here that we need to be fear with every one.

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    Aug 25th 2014, 11:26 AM

    Just one question,How many Irish citizen are living in American ,Australia Illegally and working peacefully?Are they not there on economic reasons?They did not seek Asylum REF .http://www.latimes.com/la-op-rodriguez8apr08-column.html ,http://www.irishcentral.com/news/increasing-number-of-irish-working-illegally-in-australia-123708654-237392961.html How many times have you heard that they want to deport them to Ireland?Okay lets say someone will ask that,those Irish living illegally in the above mentioned countries,have never tried to protest as asylum seekers do in Ireland.True,but the issue is,how can they even think of protesting,when they are living there illegally.
    well i just think here that we need to be fear with every one.

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