@ Thomas Francis Meagher :Al Qaeda, initially created and funded by the US in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets under the leadership of Osama Bin Laden, then called Mujahedin , later Taliban. They were always regarded as the greatest treat to the Governments of Iraq and Libya and were never present in these countries prior to their US implementation. Today still on the payroll of the CIA in Syria, Iraq, Libya etc they have managed with US, Saudi and Qatari funding and support to become a real treat to our much cherished democracy. Their main source of income at the moment is, in collaboration with the CIA, the opium trade in Afghanistan which has spiraled in volume to record levels since the invasion. See : ” Professor Michel Chossudovsky Canada , has highlighted in a series of essays, the explosion of opium production after the invasion was about the CIA’s drive to restore the lucrative Golden Crescent opium trade that was in place during the time when the Agency were funding the Mujahadin rebels to fight the Soviets, and flood the streets of America and Britain with cheap heroin, “ Today this USA invention serves a dual purpose. Firstly to portray them as a threat to our freedom, thus curbing long fought for civil liberties, and so creating a docile, fearful and increasingly naive American society who are paying dearly for all of this insanity with their hard earned tax money. Secondly as in Afghanistan they are readily available to recruit as mercenaries world wide. A Frankenstein created in the USA . Our only hope remains that young intelligent people in the US and will wake up some day.

@ Padraic – Alex Jones called, he wants his material back.

Padraic. The Mujhadeen and Al Queda were two completely separate entities. Do a little history research. During the Russian Afghan war Al Queda were only minor bit players. And the Taliban were created by the Pakistani Intelligence Service who by the way still retain links with them. Because the US did not want to be seen as directly involved they rather foolishly worked through the Pakistanis who had their own agenda.
And Bin Laden used his family money to finance Al Queda.

Mick mick mick
It’s already been proved the us funded alCIAda in afghan/ Russia war
Brezinski has admitted to this there are pictures of him and a young bin laden they were the USA proxy army
The amount of disinfo spin BS that comes out of you on certain subjects is laughable
If anyone doubts this google it do a little research yourselves as ” Alex Jones” would say
Don’t take my word for it do your own research

@ Liam . First time in my life I hear of this man . I will look it up. I carry out my own individual researches I just hope you are not an American tax payer funding this utter nonsense because any profits will certainly not be coming your way. It goes to the so called 1 % as the American hard working middle class are daily beingn deprived of everything they and their fathers have worked so hard for. Wake up.

@ Mick : you remain so beautifully naive . Don’t wake up. You may be shocked.

Padraic I suggest you lay off the opium. It addles the brain

@ Padraic – After reading your first post the name Alex Jones immediately sprang to mind. Many people who espouse the same views as you, consider him to be a beacon of integrity in terms of this conspiracy theory nonsense.

Here is a quick video of him in prime form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DoaoRc5TF4

As for you carrying out your own “individual researches”, I do hope you can prove all of these claims that you are making and are not talking out of your ass (I personally would not think for a second that you are). So many people on the internet who make claims like this always fall short at such requests.

“Today still on the payroll of the CIA in Syria, Iraq, Libya etc they have managed with US, Saudi and Qatari” America funding Al-Qaeda, even though Al-Qaeda want to spread their ideology to all parts of the world, even America. This really is amazing. And of course, you also have evidence for this as well?

“Wake up” The words used by many a conspiracy theorist. Also you tell me to wake up yet you tell Mick not to. Do you want people to know whats going on or not? Make up your mind man.

@ Liam “ First question .Why should anybody that dares to question the prevalent and all prevailing account of events entailing a major historical significance be automatically be labeled as a (Conspiracy theorist ) Socrates questioned the development of democracy in Athens, Gallileo questioned the acquired knowledge of Rome in his time . In later times brave people like of the Claus Von Staufenberg questioned the lunatic ideals and plans of his mentor Adolf. They were all killed though for their far reaching assessment of current and future events
Second Question. People like Mick will in this life never wake up.

@ pat mustard you are spot on pat,it is very unusual !!!

@ Padraic – You’re comparing yourself to people like Socrates and Galileo? I consider myself a confident person, even sometimes I can get cocky, but wow that really is arrogance. Were Socrates and Galileo labelled as conspiracy theorists? No. They merely went against the status quo.

You on the other hand are continuously making extraordinary claims (and you still have not shown any proof to back such claims up). You say that the CIA is funding Al-Qaeda even though Al-Qaeda want to impose sharia law on all people of the world.

“Second Question. People like Mick will in this life never wake up.” That is not a question, it is a declarative statement.

Padraic, if only the soviets had not invaded Afghanistan in the first place.
You should be a little bit critical of the place you live in now.
The American youth are not as stupid as you think they are.

Foxy, the US supplied the mujahideen with light weapons and shoulder held rocket launchers to take on the soviets.
The soviets inflicted brutal casualties on the afghans.
How old were you when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan?
You need to done some thinking beyond the US links.
The US does not operate in a vacuum!

Declan
1st green thumb I have ever giving you
If you are agreeing that the USA gave arms to bin laden that just about clears it up
Now how deep down the rabbit hole are you willing to go

@ Liam : pointing to the fact that it is sometimes profitable for our intellectual development to go “against the grain” and not to believe everything we read in the (Papers) At the moment we are been fed with mass propaganda that is an insult to our normal intelligence. Knowledge and wisdom are worked for, and not some god given thing, or government thing. My statement about the involvement of the CIA concerning trade with drugs is based on Un investigations and independent investigations from renowned publicists such as” Michel Chossudoysky: from a Canadian University .HSBC and some smaller English banks are at the moment being investigated not only for their involvement int he drug trade but also for their involvement in transfering billions of Dollars to the taliban through Saudi Arabia .We must wait for the result, PS I have two small children and
o this is why I am very, very angry with the CIA, If not for my kids , then maybe for their friends

Foxes. I believe I said that US funded the Mujhadeen through the Pakistanis. And the Mujhadeen of the Afghan-Russian war were a conglomerate of different forces under one umbrella name. Remember Commander Massoud? The one the one Taliban murdered. He was one of the main commanders during the War. He tried to warn the US about what the Pakistanis were at. The Killing was carried out by 2 Tunisians pretending to be a Belgian news crew. The Pakistani Intelligence Service were suspected in aiding the Taliban and their then Al Queda allies in getting the suicide bombers so close to him. As revenge for trying to tell the US.

NY Times: Afghan Opium Kingpin On CIA Payroll
A bombshell article in today’s edition of the New York Times lifts the lid on how the brother of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, a suspected kingpin of the country’s booming opium trade, has been on the CIA payroll for the past eight years. However, the article serves as little more than a whitewash because it fails to address the fact that one of the primary reasons behind the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan was the agenda to reinstate the Golden Crescent drug trade.
“The agency pays (Ahmed Wali) Karzai for a variety of services, including helping to recruit an Afghan paramilitary force that operates at the C.I.A.’s direction in and around the southern city of Kandahar, Mr. Karzai’s home,” reports the Times.
An October 2008 report from the Times reveals how, after security forces discovered a huge tractor-trailer full of heroin outside Kandahar in 2004, “Before long, the commander, Habibullah Jan, received a telephone call from Ahmed Wali Karzai, the brother of President Hamid Karzai, asking him to release the vehicle and the drugs.”
In 2006, following the discovery of another cache of heroin, “United States investigators told other American officials that they had discovered links between the drug shipment and a bodyguard believed to be an intermediary for Ahmed Wali Karzai.”
The Times article out today also discusses how the CIA uses Karzai as a go-between between the Americans and the Taliban. He is also directly implicated in the manufacturing of phony ballots and polling stations that were attributed to the President’s disputed election victory.
“If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck,” the American officer said of Mr. Karzai. “Our assumption is that he’s benefiting from the drug trade.”
Officials quoted by The Times described Karzai as a Mafia-like figure who expanded his influence over the drug trade with the aid of U.S. efforts to eliminate his competitors.
[efoods]
The Afghan opium trade has exploded since the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, following a lull after the Taliban had imposed a crackdown. According to the U.N., the drug trade is now worth $65 billion. Afghanistan produces 92 per cent of the world’s opium, with the equivalent of 3,500 tonnes leaving the country each year. Other figures put the number far higher, at around 6,100 tonnes a year.
The New York Times exposé pins the blame on Karzai, but fails to explain that one of the primary reasons behind the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan was the United States’ agenda to restore, not eradicate, the drug trade.
Before the invasion, the Taliban collaborated closely with the U.N. to reduce opium production down to just 185 tonnes, a figure at least 2000% below current levels. The notion that the “Taliban benefits from the drug trade” and that the U.S. is trying to stop it, as both Bush and Obama claimed, is the complete opposite of what is actually happening.
As Professor Michel Chossudovsky has highlighted in a series of essays, the explosion of opium production after the invasion was about the CIA’s drive to restore the lucrative Golden Crescent opium trade that was in place during the time when the Agency were funding the Mujahideen rebels to fight the Soviets, and flood the streets of America and Britain with cheap heroin, destroying lives while making obscene profits.

Foxy, stop twisting what I said. The mujahideen were supplied with weapons. Bin laden was a nobody back then. Who could have predicted what he would do 20 plus alters.

20 plus years later.

Ya now that they have told us that they are there I suppose they are free to go in all guns blazing. Pathetic

Martin
That movie is propaganda
All it does is whitewash real issues and expose things that were already known
Michael Moore works for them

hahahaha mick you have just proven how ill informed and ignorant you are,glad i dont even have to pretend to take your BS serious anymore !!

He never said Iran backed them you just misread it. He said there were three groups 1 Christians supported by Israel, 2. Hezbollah supported by Iran and 3. Al Qaeda. You could probably add a fourth the Lebanese Army. It will be strange having 1, 2 & 4 on the same side but Al Qaeda are a common enemy of all.

richard are you for real ?? he said “hezbollah have iran and al qaeda” it does not get any more simple or plain than that and if you were familiar with his “contributions” you’d know this is par for the course

I haven’t. I linked Hezbollah with Iran. I was commenting on the how a civil war in Lebanon would play out.

A comma after Iran maybe would have made it more clear.

fair enough mick !

Ipsum
I’m a man utd supporter in afraid to look at the news paper

Ipsum wants the single state solution i.e. give the entire middle east to Israel.

Watch below it’s presented humorously but it’s serious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU

This is so obvious that it’s pathetic.

Enjoy!

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