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Ukraine church leader says Putin has been "possessed by Satan"

Separately, Ukraine’s President Poroshenko and Putin have agreed that the ceasefire agreed yesterday is largely holding.

THE HEAD OF Ukraine’s Orthodox Church accused Russian President Vladimir Putin today of being possessed by Satan — a comment certain to outrage tens of millions of faithful in both countries.

Patriarch Filaret issued a statement accusing the Russian leader of trying to “incite bloodshed and killings” in eastern Ukraine where pro-Moscow rebels have been waging a bloody five-month campaign to establish their own state.

Putin “himself tells obvious outward lies: while organising and sending mercenary killers to our countries, he talks about an ‘internal conflict’ in which he is allegedly not involved,” said the leader of the Kiev-based patriarchy — one of four main Christian faiths in Ukraine.

The patriarch added that Ukrainians had repeatedly called on Putin “and his accomplices to come to their senses, stop sowing evil and death, and repent”.

But it seems that he remains deaf to these calls and only multiplies evil because he, like Judas Iscariot, has become possessed by Satan.

AP / Press Association Images... Ukrainian Orthodox Church Kiev Patriarchate Filaret AP / Press Association Images... Ukrainian Orthodox Church Kiev Patriarchate Filaret / Press Association Images... Ukrainian Orthodox Church Kiev Patriarchate Filaret

About 15 percent of Ukrainians are believed to be members of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

Its much larger Moscow-based counterpart has direct ties to the Russian Orthodox Church led by Patriarch Kirill — a close Putin ally who plays an increasingly visible role in politics.

Kirill was forced to cancel his attendance at the July funeral of the former leader of the Moscow-based Ukrainian Orthodox Church because of the embarrassment of facing potential protests by those who accuse Russia of interfering in Ukrainian affairs.

Ceasefire

Separately, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said this afternoon that he and Putin had agreed during a phonecall that the ceasefire agreed yesterday between Kiev and separatist rebels was largely holding.

“The two heads of state noted (in a phone call) that the ceasefire regime was generally being observed. Petro Poroshenko and Vladimir Putin discussed ways to make the ceasefire hold,” the Ukrainian president’s office said in a statement, after the rebels and government forces accused the other of some truce violations.

© AFP, 2014

Read: Ukraine has agreed a ceasefire with pro-Russian rebels

Read: Russia warns it will “react” against new sanctions from Europe

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:00 PM

    Well Putin is hardly possessed by Santa….

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:14 PM

    Maybe he’s dyslexic?

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    Sep 8th 2014, 2:15 PM

    Stalin?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 6:57 PM

    Frank is gonna cream himself at this.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:00 PM

    Obama told him to say this.

    Obama will soon proclaim that he himself is God.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:10 PM

    Obama was painted up as some sort of god during his first campaign … It was disturbing !!

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:12 PM

    Obama’s numerology and gematria has satans number written all over it..

    Even his date of birth.. 4th August 1961 the 216th date of year… 216 = 6x6x6.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:13 PM

    Frank…Putin had a “7″point plan for his presidential election in 2012, last week in Minsk he had a “7″point “Peace Plan” for Eastern Ukraine. Given your fascination in the significance of numerology why is 7 only ominous when Obama uses it?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:22 PM

    Lost the battle lads and now ye pick on Frank? Suck it up losers lol

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:26 PM

    Ablitive – How does one get to become as mental as you? Genuinely curious.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:35 PM

    Deegan. You’re all “giddy” again tonight, The Russian vodka again like last week?
    you must have had a real sore head last Sunday morning..

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:57 PM

    Seán Ó Briain .. its usually web site shills that come up with comments like that

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:13 PM

    PMSL at that one sean :)

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:13 PM

    Kenny had a 5 point plan so what

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:40 PM

    4 down in less than 1 min the FG mob are tuned in.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 11:18 PM

    Ok Frank, so 6 is bad and 7 is bad. Are there any other numbers we should know about? Are there any good numbers?

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    Sep 7th 2014, 12:41 AM

    Avina Laaf ..11 is the really bad one…

    “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” Revelation 2:9 (2 + 9 = 11)

    The fake “killing of Osama Bin Laden” occurred on 5/2/2011. ..add the date = 11.

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    Sep 7th 2014, 12:43 AM

    Today Ablitive is the 7s day..7 Sept 2014 – you flagged it as a possible false flag hoax event day..any ideas?
    Some big events happening today:

    Cricket: England v South Africa, Women’s T20 international
    F1: Italian Grand Prix, Monza (Italy hasn’t really had a fake event as large as other countries yet i.e 911 7/7)
    Athletics: Great North Run
    England v India Men’s T20 international

    Scottish air show in Glasgow.

    Cyber crash?

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    Sep 7th 2014, 1:23 AM

    This would be a good guide..

    There are three dates this month that add up to 777 taking September (Septem Latin for 7)

    7th Septem 2014 (2+0+1+4 =7)
    16th Septem 2014 (1+6=7)
    25th Septem 2014 (2+5=7)

    Today’s date September 7th 2014 is the most powerful as it contains two hidden 7′s .

    September 7 is the 250th day of the year 2+5+0 = 7
    There are 115 days remaining until the end of the year 1+1+5 =7

    Looking back at 9/11 …
    September 11 is the 254th day of the year 2+5+4 = 11
    There are 111 days remaining until the end of the year

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    Sep 7th 2014, 1:44 AM

    I would stay well clear of Sears Tower, any ball games and Damascus during false flag season.

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    Sep 7th 2014, 9:44 AM

    It hasn’t been called Sears Tower for years. But then again facts don’t seem to be your thing.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 6:55 PM

    But the devil just grinned, and said ‘l may have sinned, but there’s no need to push me around. I got him first so you can do your worst. He’s going underground!’

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    Sep 7th 2014, 12:58 AM

    Possessed by Chris de Burg. Scary.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:32 PM

    Not possessed by Satan just has the world’s worst case of small man syndrome!

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:01 PM

    And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born..

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:01 PM

    Its in revelations people!

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:03 PM

    “Abandon hope all ye who enter here”

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:10 PM

    This is Putins 7th election the 7th since the breakup of the soviet union.. 7 heads.. 10 horns represent the ten russians soldiers captured by Ukraine to spark russian aggression.. Horns= warnings!

    I dont know about you but im off to get my tin hat.. Wait for me Jim!!

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:12 PM

    Seven crowns represents the seven new russian principalities.. Keep up!

    Those of you pm me.. Please im just one man i dont have the answers.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:18 PM

    Justin
    Are you saying he is suffering from P**is envy

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:23 PM

    Well Obama is a rather large black gentleman!

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:59 PM

    Good news Vlad.. Average penis size is now 2inches.. Cant we all just get along?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:18 PM

    glen. If being stupid was a crime you would be doing life without parole

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:25 PM

    Better possessed by Satan who only killed 10-odd people than God who killed more than 2.4 million, the Ukrainian cleric has his biblical mass murderers mixed up.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:13 PM

    Or Stalin eh?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:35 PM

    Well, I think the Ukrainian patriarch was quite specific in his reference to fictional characters from the bible and not people who actually existed.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:04 PM

    Newsflash: Satan has responded describing it as a gross character assassination. Says he will sue.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:03 PM

    So the journal has finally turned into a conspiracy website ……. Alex jones would be proud !!

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:12 PM

    Does any comment do now Glen,just to have your name in the story?

    You’re worse than a troll and you are turning the Journal into your own personal playground.

    From now on,which I doubt you would care anyway,not that I give a toss,I’m neither giving you a thumbs down or entertaining your rubbish because you do actually crave both thumbs up and thumbs down. There is something wrong you

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:15 PM

    “Turning the journal into your own personal playground” will you relax yourself you absolute minnow. Glen has as much right to post whatever he wants as you or anyone else does.
    It’s pretty sad that you’re getting so worked up about glen posting. Enjoy what’s left of your weekend..

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:18 PM

    Reporting what some idiot said is hardly a conspiracy website.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:20 PM

    Glens comment was witty and to the point. The real story is the ceasefire is holding. Nobody cares what some religious guy said.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:22 PM

    To the point? WTF? To the point of stupidity maybe

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:30 PM

    The ceasefire is welcome news. But the real battle starts in the negotiations. Ukraine is not going to accept ceding territory to rebels. Either the rebels hand back all of the territory or the war will go on. A sovereign state has the right to defend it’s territorial integrity and does not have to give in to Russian sponsored rebels.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:45 PM

    Sean J Troy you are suggesting that the force winning on the ground will cede all gains to the loser? I think that’s somewhat unlikely lol

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:54 PM

    It depends on what you mean by forces on the ground. Are the Ukranians negotiating with rebels or the Russian army? Because if it’s the rebels, then yes. I would imagine that the Ukranians wouldn’t be willing to cede their gains to them. But if we’re talking about the Russian army, well I can’t imagine the EU or NATO will allow an invasion to result in a land grab. This is going to play out one of two ways, either the Ukranians will regain their territory, join NATO and the EU or the Russians will push harder and harder until they got caught out. At which point they will get their arse kicked by the new NATO strike force. The Russians can’t win a war with the West and they’re losing the battle over hearts and minds. The ruble is imploding and the Russian people are suffering. In a democracy, this would matter. But Putin will have to back down, or he’ll be publicly embarassed by the rest of the world and shown to be the weak and despicable piece of s**t that he is.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:59 PM

    ÉiRed
    Saying a world leader is possessed by the devil is something you would read about on a conspiracy site, one of the wacky ones not Alex Jones tho and I see from the red thumbs I have offended a lot of readers … I do apologise as prison planet and infowars are not wacky sites they are news sites
    The issue here is it’s fashionable to hate Putin at the minute and again that herd mentality is kicking in !

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:10 PM

    I don’t think hating Putin is a recent phenomenon. I imagine most of the free world has hated him for years including myself. Mostly it stems from him being a hateful human being. His handling of ethnic divisions in the Caucasus and blaming all of Russia’s woes on the LGBT community are pretty despicable. He’s a corrupt oligarch and will smear anyone who disagrees. He’s anti free-speech and really doesn’t care about his own people. The Ukranian debacle is just the latest exhibition of his ridiculous desire to make Russia a world power once again. All that’s happened is a collapsed ruble and economic desperation. If you’re going to be an evil dictator, at least be a good one.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:10 PM

    No glen, that is not a conspiracy. That’s just some individual making a comment about another.
    You really are a thicko.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:13 PM

    John, it was neither witty or to the point. Glen doesn’t know the difference between a conspiracy and a person making a comment about another person.
    Btw, are you upset that someone insulted her hero Putin?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:15 PM

    Declan
    You come across as someone who really needs a hug !!

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:17 PM

    Sean J Troy you can trot out all the lazy posturings you like short of warning us that Ivan the terrible is reborn. The fact is the US already ruled out military action, the NATO “rapid reaction force” which isn’t even in the ground yet wouldn’t be enough to even mop up the rebels in the East, never mind take on the Russians, Europe has precisely zero leverage economically on Russia. You are talking absolute jibberish. And jibberish is no substitute for reality.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:23 PM

    Sean I think you are the only one who is interested in LGBT community. The mask slips lol

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:31 PM

    I wouldn’t want the US to get involved. That’s ended in disaster one too many times. That NATO strike force isn’t really there to fight Russians. Up until the Russians straight up invaded last week, the Ukrainian government was winning. All the NATO force has to do is land and make sure that there are no Russians on the ground. That gives Putin one of two choices, pull his soldiers back or admit that his soldiers are in Ukraine. NATO will be able to prove that the Russians are there and Putin will have no choice but to withdraw or the UN will bring the hammer down on them. Putin can’t survive against NATO and the US would be obliged to assist if NATO was threatened. This will never happen, and so the Russians will conveniently finish their “holidays” and go back where they came from. At which point the Ukrainian government will continue where it left off two weeks ago and batter the rebels into submission.
    The EU has an enormous trade deficit with Russia, it has ALL of the leverage. You only have to look at the exchange markets to see how badly the ruble is doing. It will be impossible for Russia to borrow on the bond market and so it will economically collapse. This isn’t your Dad’s Russia where they could just print more money, we saw how that went in the late 90′s.

    I am interested in the LGBT community, as are many others. Is that meant to be some veiled insult? This isn’t 1934, it’s not an insult to call someone gay. Well, at least it’s not in the free world but I understand that people don’t believe in human rights in Russia.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:37 PM

    Then I guess by your logic,I’ve as much right to get worked up as anybody else on this site yeah?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:38 PM

    Well Sean I hope your fascination with the gay community makes up for your ham fisted economics. Your theory that the trade partner in deficit has the leverage would be correct if the product couldn’t be sourced elsewhere and was vital. For food products that not the case. You do know that the Russians counter sanctioned the foodstuffs and picked them knowing they had alternate suppliers lined up? Tell me this Sean, why doesn’t Europe stop buying Russian gas? There’s a deficit there no? Is it because the EU can’t because they must have gas and they have no alternate supplier at this time? Let me help you Sean the answer is Yes. Your idiotic pronouncements are exactly that, idiotic. I won’t even go there with the NATO crap, only to say NATO are not on the ground anywhere near Ukraine. The Russians could have taken the whole country last march and they didn’t. Stick to the day job.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:46 PM

    Am I genuinely supposed to take that as an insult? It’s a strange point to criticize me on.
    And yet you still haven’t responded to the small issue of a collapsed ruble. I wouldn’t argue with the fact that the Russians can afford to source food elsewhere. But they can’t afford the astonishing rate at which the ruble is being devalued because of EU direct action. That has very real implications. They’ve just free-floated it and the Russian central bank is talking about selling it’s foreign reserves to prop up the ruble. These are not the actions of a care free government like you would have us believe they are. As far as what NATO is going to do? Who knows? You could be right, it could be more bullshit. But facts are facts, Russia may very well get a military win out of this. But at the cost of their economy.
    I despise the fact that the EU relies on Russian gas. But that gas will run out. At which point Russia will completely collapse. People are already leaving in the millions, it’s a dying state with little influence outside of it’s immediate borders. Even if Russia pulls off a miracle and the Eastern Ukraine is given statehood, do you really think the Ukrainian government won’t join NATO which is really what this has been about all along? Russia still loses in the long run.
    By the way, do you freely admit that Russian soldiers are in Ukraine?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:55 PM

    ÉiRed
    You can get worked up till you have a heart attack that’s your business but don’t blame it on my posts as you decided to read them !!

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:21 PM

    Glen .. Its all over the Main Stream Media.,The Sun will wet itself with this headline….

    # Zi0nist Input..

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:47 PM

    Sean you went from short term to long term. Anyway yes I didn’t address the ruble. You know we are in a global currency war. QE to infinity all round. The ruble is devalued so what? Russia hardly trades the ruble internationally all energy is traded in US dollars and they announced a move to Chinese yuan in the new gas deal. Russia’s other main industry, arms, is also not ruble denominated so it matters not. For any exports it’s a win obviously. Yes some imports will rise, they can sell US debt to prop it up to whatever level they’re happy with. They want to move away from US dollar anyway. This isn’t the 1980s Soviet Union, Russia is not a basket case however much you’d live to think it is.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 10:30 PM

    A certain intolerance of gay people seems to be creeping into your arguments john, do you think Russiabis too oppressive towards gay people or not oppressive enough?. Simple question.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 11:30 PM

    John is always ranting on about Russophobia, but it seems he has less of a problem with homophobia…

    And Glen! Infowars a news site??? Sweet jaysus! Lol! :-D

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    Sep 6th 2014, 11:36 PM

    @Sean J. Troy. To bring the Russian military down you do not need NATO. All Ukraine needs now is antitank and antiaircraft weapons, military electronics and equipment, UAV’s and direct intelligence from satellites and AVAC’s. There are already growing concerns in Russia after the first bodies of killed Russian Soldiers start arriving to Russia. Parents are panicking and trying to find they sons with whom they cannot make a contact for a month or more. You could see comments made by captured Russian paratroopers and despite the immense pressure back at home their did not say that they were tortured in Ukraine to say that. They saw Ukrainian Army soldiers who treated them well and not “cruel fascist who kill kids” as UA pictured in Russian internal propaganda. Majority of Russians speak only Russian so they cannot receive any information from abroad.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 11:40 PM

    Avina, looks like some less savory aspects of people’s characters have slipped out and they’ve gone to ground for the night. Normally they’d be down on you in a flash. But never .hear to answer unwelcome questions

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    Sep 6th 2014, 11:59 PM

    I hear you Justin! ;-)

    Between this, inflammatory comments made to Maciej just because he’s Polish, gleeful but misplaced triumphalism following Russia’s invasion and saying he couldn’t care less about Ukrainian sovereignty, the mask is really slipping.

    He probably fits in quite nicely in Putin’s Russia though…

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    Sep 7th 2014, 12:18 AM

    Plus avina, johns very homophobic comment a little earlier, his Russian mask has truly slipped.

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    Sep 7th 2014, 12:30 AM

    Glen, you say that it’s fashionable for people to hate Putin at this time. With people like you it’s always fashionable to hate the US, the West, NATO etc.

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    Sep 7th 2014, 2:55 AM

    Declan Noonan .. there is a valid reason why so many people hate the US, the West, NATO etc.

    # War Mongering – greed – arming jihad terrorists – false flag terrorism – police state -

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    Sep 7th 2014, 9:21 AM

    And would none of those terms apply to Russia,if you’re being honest?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:00 PM

    Pereshenko is only President of a part of Ukraine why is he referred to as President of Ukraine

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:06 PM

    Just like Michael D not being president of constituencies he didn’t top the poll.

    Sean Gallagher is the President of the glorious republic of Cavan-Monaghan-constituancy.

    Lord spare us!

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:32 PM

    Massive areas of Eastern Ukraine refused to take part in voting For Poreshenko he banned the Communist party which previously had 2 million voters and now he has sacked the latest quango government for daring to disagree with his dictates

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    Sep 6th 2014, 11:24 PM

    How massive were the areas compare to the size of Ukraine? And Oh I guess these were the areas controlled by the separatists.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:12 PM

    Ah I get it now. The ceasefire is holding. The NATO sanctions are irrelevant, the EU rubber necked bureaucrats are unable to bring meaningful sanctions without counting off a continents energy supply. What’s left in the bottom of the bag of tricks? Putin is Satan lol Ya can’t make this stuff up. It means the rebels drive a hard bargain and the Ukraine army is toast.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:21 PM

    Dah comrade.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:27 PM

    “Dah comrade.”

    Red Alert – What a game.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:29 PM

    At least get it right lads. “Dah Tavarish”, “да тавришь”. For future reference mind.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:48 PM

    Alright there Stalin – Calm down. He’s just quoting a computer game.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:50 PM

    John there are lots of tweets reporting that the Kiev forces are breaking the ceasefire today, doesn’t look like its going to hold. If that’s the case its just as i thought this ceasefire was, a ploy by Kiev to regroup and halt the momentum of the militias.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:14 PM

    Well, you’re wrong, John Deegan. It’s Да, товарищ!

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:30 PM

    Thanks Brian, typo you are correct.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:39 PM

    Pjm I’m not hearing that the ceasefire is broke. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it will be. There are too many factions, especially on the Kiev side. Poroshenkos position has weakened hugely. You have to remember this was painted as a mop up job. Then they claimed Russia invaded. Ukrainian people are not stupid they know he negotiates with the rebels. An unknown section of the Kiev battle formation does not answer to Kiev being bank rolled by oligarchs like Kolomoiski. There are figures with popular support like Tymoshenko and Yatsenyuk who are dead set against negotiations. Obviously all the Nazis, Yarosh, Toneybuk, Pravy Sektor are against it. In Novorosiya there are pro and anti talks factions but leadership there is more secure. It’s very likely Poroshenko will be shown up as not in charge or just killed. We could have a Yarosh dictator take power who knows. Word is CIA have little hold, they will obviously back Poroshenko to the hilt. Putin is in the background though and the KGB lads think every step through to the Nth degree. It’s 50/50 as to whether this lasts.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:58 PM

    Just to clarify the point, Ukrainian people were told the rebels were a bunch of drunks and drug addicts and a couple of Chechen terrorists to be mopped up in a week or two. (They have 100% oligarch controlled media). When it didn’t happen and the tide turned they announced a Russian invasion. So now Putin forces Poroshenko to deal direct with the rebels. Ukrainian people are realising they are being lied to. If it’s a Russian invasion he’s hold talks with Putin. If the rebels are drunks and Chechens why they fought the “invincible Ukrsine army” to a standstill? Btw the losses here are immense. There are 30-40k casualties in Ukraine army alone. Civilian deaths in Donbass and rebel militia losses much much less. It’s been a turkey shoot. The most dramatic collapse of a national army in modern warfare. They’ll be writing books on this one.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 10:31 PM

    Controlef media, like Russia?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 10:33 PM

    *controlled*

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    Sep 6th 2014, 10:41 PM

    @pjm “there are lots of tweets reporting that the Kiev forces are breaking the ceasefire today” Any credible names of OSCE observers on those tweets or just another online campaign by Russian Propaganda?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 10:57 PM

    I do not remember anybody saying anything about 2 weeks of fighting. Ukrainian Army used push tactics like in Slavyansk trying to encircle cities so there will be less civilians killed. Here are the pictures of Grozny after the Russians and Slavyansk after Girkin run away. In Russian media Slavyansk was destroyed but here are the pictures of Groznyi http://cavasundays.tumblr.com/ and destroyed Slavyansk http://www.mediaport.ua/slavyansk-pod-kontrolem-ukrainskoy-armii-zayavlenie-prezidenta These are headquarters of the terrorists. Even windows are not broken.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 11:10 PM

    100% oligarch controlled media? It is much better then 100% controlled state media. Just to remind John that around 70% of Ukrainian oligarchs are pro Russian so we always get the news from 2 sides. The most amazing thing that separatists still can organize peaceful protests in Ukrainian cities and that most of Web sites belonging to the rebels are still open and anyone can access them. That media in Ukrainian way. Not unlike in Russia John. Where any blog which mention Putin in a negative way can be closed by a local cop straight away as well as you need your “internal” passport to get access to public Wi Fi.
    40K casualties? Active UA forces size taking part in ATO is 50K. Read some Wiki or whatever before you post such a misinformation. And again you are faking your own evidence with your own posts. You kept going for months that UA “doing mass murders of civilians” and that Ukrainian Army shelling the cities from heavy guns. So how did it happened that the army has more casualties then unarmed civilian population? Where did you lie John?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 11:16 PM

    Rebels brought the army to the stand still? In 2 months rebels lost 70% territory, they could not mobilize 10000 man, majority of Russian Kazaks run away and left their positions. This info is not from me that was reported by Girkin and his commanders a month ago. Google it. And suddenly… Lost Russian paratroopers on APC loaded with live ammunition with no insignia. Mig-29 are being shot. 30 tanks appeared from nowhere 100 miles from rebel controlled teritory and Russian paratroopers started to die on holidays from strokes. Sounds like some kind of miracle.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 11:46 PM

    John you won my heart so I saved 1000 euros to see you. 40k of dead UA soldiers and Yarosh as a dictator (with 0.7 vote) is a beet weak even for Russian regular troll.

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    Sep 7th 2014, 12:05 AM

    “Where did you lie John?”

    That’s easy Olek – just about every time his paws got near the keypad! ;-)

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    Sep 7th 2014, 12:10 AM

    I thought the USSR and KGB no longer existed? Who is your controller john?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:38 PM

    John,
    Interesting statistics where did you get them?

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:41 PM

    I’d say Putin has a tiny cock as well, he seems to be massively over compensating. Seriously though he does display meglamanical tendencies, dictators are never happy with what they have.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:52 PM

    Some of the conspiracy guys on here should try watching 9/11 102 minutes that changed the world, you might learn something about the human tragedy of the day

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:18 PM

    9/11 … 13th Anniversary next Thursday..

    #777 firefighters died up until 9/11 and then 343 died on 9/11.. 343 = 7x7x7. explain this…

    #law of probability.

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    Sep 7th 2014, 12:09 AM

    So not only did the CIA apparently use controlled demolition to destroy the towers, they even calculated the precise number of firefighters that would get flattened by them? Now that’s what I call planning!

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    Sep 7th 2014, 1:51 PM

    building 7………….the third tower in the world trade centre complex that fell. it fell perfectly at demolition speed and it was not hit by anything. it leaves a lot of questions.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:04 PM

    Its kind of ironic that the church that made this statement is a church that is based on idol worship. # Exodus 20:5

    So anybody going against Global one world government agenda is now considered a satanist.

    Next it will be Bassar Al Assad.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 10:46 PM

    How is that irony

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:17 PM

    Ha ha ha ha , pissing myself reading this .. Now all we need is nick Jordan and Jason to verify it .. Lol

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:08 PM

    Really constructive comment

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    Sep 6th 2014, 8:19 PM

    It’s a blessing to be called a demon.

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    Sep 7th 2014, 4:52 AM

    its simple anyone with a basic understanding of economics can see how bankrupt the us, uk and eu as a whole is. they are looking to start a war to blame this on. this is more propaganda towards preparing the masses, this time it involves a warm and cuddly god.
    claims of an invasion, a downed airliner, the apparent abduction of an estonian officer these were all issues the media promoted and quickly forgot about.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:17 PM

    The ceasefire is holding, that’s good. Porky knows the jog is up. He a clan leader, he’ll cut a deal with the East. Everything else is just noise.

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    Sep 6th 2014, 7:17 PM

    #. Jig is up. #

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    Sep 7th 2014, 12:00 AM

    During last ceasefire there were 37 UA serviceman killed. Hire rate per day then during an active combat.

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    Sep 7th 2014, 7:28 AM

    If he genuinely thinks Putin has been possessed ,surely it should be “He accused Satan of possessing Putin”, rather than “he accused Putin of being possessed by Satab”. Otherwise he’s just participating in shaming the victim.

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    Sep 7th 2014, 12:13 AM

    Here is a new web created by one of women from Russian “Soldier’s Mothers” public organization. Killed or lost Russian soldiers in Ukraine. That’s only confirmed cases http://www.mamasoldata.org/
    And here why there will be less confirmed cases of killed Russian soldiers and more lost without trace. Pictures of these mobile crematoriums were spotted near Rostov not so far from Ukrainian border. Information was posted by Elena Vaileva Russian Human Rights activist. http://by24.org/2014/09/04/russian_army_near_rostov_gets_mobile_cremathorys/

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:07 PM

    He may have a point :)

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    Sep 7th 2014, 10:22 AM

    This guy is right, he is definitely possessed by something evil, or if he’s not then he is just plain evil

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    Sep 6th 2014, 9:43 PM

    Funny Nostaradamus says the same

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    Sep 7th 2014, 4:27 AM

    It’s numbers game

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