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Child in residential care refuses to attend addiction services, Social Work Department says they can't force him

TheJournal.ie spent a week observing cases in the Family Court.

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This story is part of a series on the Family Court which can be viewed here>>

AN APPLICATION TO extend an interim care order was granted by a court where the natural mother no longer lives in Ireland. The court heard that there had been incidences where the boy was on drugs and tested positive for amphetamines.

His social worker said that he had decided he did not want to attend the addiction services anymore, which was concerning to the boy’s grandparents.

The social worker said they too were “very concerned” about his drug taking.

The court heard that the boy lived in a residential home and that there had been a few incidences where he had broken the curfew. However, he had been behaving well recently.

He has been attending counselling and is being “very open and honest” in sessions, said his social worker.

The grandparents said they would like the boy to live with them. But, the social worker said it was the boy’s wishes to stay where he was and that he did not want to live with them.

The solicitor for the grandmother said she was concerned about her grandson leaving education and worried about the drug use. The court heard that she felt there was no proper supervision of her grandson and he was essentially allowed do what he wanted, saying she was critical that he was permitted to just leave the addiction services.

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She said she was afraid he would “fall out” of the school system.

The social worker said they were also concerned about the drug-taking but said that it was “very hard to force” a teenager to go somewhere or do something he doesn’t want to do.

“We can just encourage him to go,” said the social worker. She said there had been a special effort made to “get him out of bed” and make him have a shower, adding that he was “keeping to the boundaries”.

The court heard that the residential home said they will “keep him on” in the home until he is 19 years old so that he can stay in education. The grandmother said she wanted monthly reports on his progress so that she “knows what is going on”, adding that such reports had been delayed in the recent past.

The interim care order was extended with the judge adding that any young person taking drugs is concerning, but that as he was not in detention, it was not possible to order him to attend addiction services, but only encouragement could be given.

The judge said she wanted the grandparents to be kept up to speed on their grandson’s progress with monthly reports that were to be filed on time.

‘A Week in the Family Courts’ series will be running all this week on TheJournal.ie. 

Read: A Week in the Family Court: ‘There needs to be intervention before we reach crisis point’>

Read: A Week in the Family Court: 6,500 children are in care – here are some of their stories>

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    Mute Football in the Groin
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    Oct 15th 2021, 8:29 AM

    My own electricity bill has risen from€90 to €130 per month. Also, it looks like I’ll finally have to move on from putting €30 a week into the car and increase it to €40. Straight away that’s me down €80 a month, just on those two things. That’s without mentioning the increase in cost of coal, heating oil and a million other day to day things. Not good. About the only thing not going up are my wages!

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    Mute Dean
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    Oct 15th 2021, 4:00 PM

    @Football in the Groin:
    Skyrocketed isn’t even the word for inflation ever since FG came to power.

    1 bed apartment I moved into was 450 euro over a decade ago, it went up to 750 in three years, I saw it last year for €1550.

    They don’t build. Creating scarcity. Yet overspend in unnecessary areas.

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    Mute Damon16
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    Oct 15th 2021, 8:57 AM

    What about tax poverty i.e. workers being taxed into effective poverty by taxation

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    Mute David Corrigan
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    Oct 15th 2021, 9:10 AM

    @Damon16: You will be told by the main party bots to emigrate if you don’t like it.

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    Mute James
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    Oct 15th 2021, 8:49 AM

    Food and fuel poverty is a real thing in today’s society.the government don’t care about low income citizens anymore yet they are the ones most likely to be hit hardest.what a disgrace

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    Mute David Corrigan
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    Oct 15th 2021, 9:09 AM

    @James: The hungry and cold citizens are armed with votes though.

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    Mute Patrick Barrett
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    Oct 15th 2021, 12:28 PM

    @David Corrigan: A lot of people voted Sinn Fein yet same 2 parties are in Government so much for voting making a difference. As someone once said “if your vote made a difference they wouldn’t let you vote”

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    Mute Patrick FitzGerald
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    Oct 15th 2021, 1:07 PM

    @Patrick Barrett: This is a dangerous line of thinking which the political establishment have worked very hard to trick you and millions of other people into, in order to convince you not to take part in bringing them down. Don’t fall for it. In the last election, the rise of the left forced FF and FG, two neoliberal parties who had successfully operated an entirely phoney revolving door “dichotomy” for most of the previous century, to finally admit that there’s little practical difference between the two and that they can, contrary to years and years of supposed rivalry, work together in a coalition.

    The seismicity of this development cannot be overstated. For so many years they operated a two party system under the totally false pretence of being real alternatives to eachother. They can no longer do this. They will not be able to run their usual “it’s all the other party’s fault” campaign during the next election – to quote a classic political comedy, “they must all hang together, because if they don’t, they’ll all be hanged separately”.

    Progress is undoubtedly slow. Frustratingly, infuriatingly, painfully slow. But the last election was the beginning of the end for civil war politics, in which Ireland’s choice was between “Conservative” and “Conservative, but my great-grandad fought against your great-grandad a hundred years ago”. We now have a meaningful left/right divide in our politics, and this will have a gigantic impact on policy going forward – whatever happens.

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    Mute Mairead Conroy
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    Oct 15th 2021, 10:29 AM

    What about the person living on there own on the minimum wage paying for everything. We have nothing left after paying our bills

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    Mute Paul Power
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    Oct 15th 2021, 10:53 AM

    How much of an increase will the politicians receive in 2022?.

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    Mute Wade Wilson
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    Oct 15th 2021, 1:49 PM

    @Paul Power: They gave themselves 3 in the past 18 months, I’m guessing another two at least. They are already better paid than the leaders of pretty much any other country which is crazy when you consider how small our country is and the number of people each govern.

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    Mute Hugh Mc Donnell
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    Oct 15th 2021, 10:30 AM

    Your absolutely running to stand still in this country now. College fees, accommodation cost negligible tax relief on many big expenses like this. All the time prices are going up now and wage increases are only playing catch up

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    Mute leartius
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    Oct 15th 2021, 11:05 AM

    It’s way past time we tackled our tax upon a tax rip off. Increasing carbon tax hurts a bit but VAT on electricty(13.5%) also increases. It’s not sustainable and should be illegal.
    Businesses are vat exempt bringing goods into Ireland. These products are then sold onto Irish consumers with a staggering 23% vat added after that business includes its own costs and profits. It’s no wonder consumers are buying direct from companies in Germany(19% vat) instead of buying from Irish outlets.
    We did we stop being a social welfare state and became a Business welfare state?

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    Mute Mary Dunphy
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    Oct 15th 2021, 1:35 PM

    So I had a look at my 8th August to 9th September electricity bill.
    Usage of electricity amounted to €127.53.
    Total electricity bill was €163.63 as it included –
    Standing charge: ( a charge for the fixed cost associated with providing electricity supply) €16.50,
    PSO Levy: ( a charge for security of supply and the generation of electricity) €6.52 and
    VAT: (government tax) was €19.46.
    Allowances of €3.83 for paperless billing and €2.55 for level pay were made.
    Overall levies on the monthly bill of €127.53 amounted to €42.48 or 33.31% over the cost of electricity actually used.
    Actual amount paid allowing for allowances of €6.38 was €163.63.
    The government in their wisdom? have now decided to increase the amount of levies we pay on our electricity bills and no doubt gas, oil etc. also to satisfy the green cohort in their ranks.
    As a pensioner who due to underhand tactics on the government’s part (averaging rule) is not receiving a full pension I will now receive a proportion of the €5 increase they awarded with great fanfare – to help meet their recent increase in their mythical carbon tax.
    To misquote Shakespeare there is something rotten in the state of Ireland.

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    Mute Locutus Of Borg
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    Oct 16th 2021, 3:33 AM

    @Mary Dunphy: scandalous

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    Mute Anarch Eco
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    Oct 15th 2021, 10:58 AM

    The golden age of our civilisation is behind us. From now on everything will be more expensive.
    Fuel prices increasing, increases everything for obvious reasons.
    Repeatable(renewables) electricity will not be cheaper than fossil fuels, as FF are/were so easy to extract amd energy dense. Also when we have to stop using FF completely or run out of them, we ll have to be able to recycle/rebuild the wind/solar equipment using power from wind and solar.
    This will limit our ability to grow economic growth. So there should be a planned slow down of economic activity, to allow us to live more sustainably within the means of the biosphere.

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    Mute Patrick FitzGerald
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    Oct 15th 2021, 1:12 PM

    @Anarch Eco: You’re not wrong, but the elephant in the room here is human overpopulation. The more of us there are splitting the Earth pie, the less pie there is to go around. This should be common sense. We should be incentivising and encouraging people to not contribute to this, but the current economic model of “endless growth” requires that each generation be bigger than the last. It’s an insane ponzi scheme whose natural conclusion is to screw over whichever generation gets left holding the planetary bag when it bursts from being overstretched.

    Why this isn’t talked about more is entirely beyond me. This planet has limited resources, the more people who have to share those resources, the less each individual’s quality of life can be. It should be blindingly obvious that regardless of any other factors, this is a real, serious, existential threat facing our civilisation – we’ve gone from three billion humans in the mid-20th century to almost nine billion now, and look what’s happening to the planet as a result.

    It is madness to suggest that growth can continue indefinitely on a planet which has a fixed size and scale. It’s a mathematical impossibility.

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    Mute Anarch Eco
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    Oct 15th 2021, 1:18 PM

    @Patrick FitzGerald: you’re not wrong either!

    10,000 years ago people were 1% of land mammal biomass

    Today Humans plus livesstock are approx 95% mammal biomass.

    Crazytown

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    Mute Mary Dunphy
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    Oct 15th 2021, 1:35 PM

    So I had a look at my 8th August to 9th September electricity bill.
    Usage of electricity amounted to €127.53.
    Total electricity bill was €163.63 as it included –
    Standing charge: ( a charge for the fixed cost associated with providing electricity supply) €16.50,
    PSO Levy: ( a charge for security of supply and the generation of electricity) €6.52 and
    VAT: (government tax) was €19.46.
    Allowances of €3.83 for paperless billing and €2.55 for level pay were made.
    Overall levies on the monthly bill of €127.53 amounted to €42.48 or 33.31% over the cost of electricity actually used.
    Actual amount paid allowing for allowances of €6.38 was €163.63.
    The government in their wisdom? have now decided to increase the amount of levies we pay on our electricity bills and no doubt gas, oil etc. also to satisfy the green cohort in their ranks.
    As a pensioner who due to underhand tactics on the government’s part (averaging rule) is not receiving a full pension I will now receive a proportion of the €5 increase they awarded with great fanfare – to help meet their recent increase in their mythical carbon tax.
    To misquote Shakespeare there is something rotten in the state of Ireland.

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    Mute thesaltyurchin
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    Oct 15th 2021, 1:51 PM

    No rich enough to keep up with the gouys?… To the black market with you!!

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