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Cahir Mens Shed via Irish Men's Sheds Association

Opinion These are places men can come together to find purpose and friendship

Men’s Sheds are places for men who want to do something positive with their time to share their knowledge, experience, ideas, creativity and skills.

I AM ONE of the lucky ones. I am lucky enough to get to do a job that I love. But it wasn’t always like this for me.

There was a time in my life when I had very little motivation or enthusiasm for the joys of life. However, when I came to realise that life had more to offer, I found that it was not so easy to access the support that I needed.

Now, over 12 years later in my role with the Irish Men’s Sheds Association, I have the task of making it as easy as possible for people to set up and run Men’s Sheds. Men’s Sheds are community spaces where men come together and work on projects and where they find meaning and purpose, friendship and belonging. They are spaces where men can find information about services and where they can find the mutual support they need to lead flourishing lives and to contribute fully to society.

There is a public perception that Men’s Sheds are only for men who are struggling in life, perhaps faced with an issue such as isolation, unemployment or depression. And despite the fact that, in my opinion, almost all of us will experience some of these issues at some stage in our lives, Men’s Sheds are for all men.

The one thing that Shedders have in common is that they have time on their hands and that they want to do something positive with that time. Of course, anyone experiencing the issues mentioned above are very welcome to a Men’s Shed, but they don’t come for that reason alone. They attend their Shed to share knowledge, experience, ideas, creativity and skills. The inevitable result is that great outcomes emerge.

These include outcomes that are positive for the individuals and outcomes that bring benefits to the community as a whole. A survey carried out with the Men’s Shedders in 2012 showed that 74% of the participating men not only felt better while they were at the Shed, but also felt better at home. In other words, the benefits of being involved with the Men’s Shed movement carried with them into all areas of their lives.

Some of the phrases I hear most often as I travel around Men’s Sheds across the island of Ireland are that the Shed “gives me a reason to get up in the morning”, “the best thing about this place is the camaraderie” or “without this place I would be lost”.

We could use terms such as ‘increased social capital’ or ‘improved community cohesion’ but the simple fact is that when a group come together and create something positive for the community, then the outcomes are positive for everyone.

Even though each group of men makes their own decision about what activities to undertake, it is amazing how many of these groups choose to use their time and energy to do something positive for their communities such as making benches for a local park or renovating old bikes for kids in their areas.

There are now 220 Men’s Sheds across Ireland, with upwards of 7,000 members participating each week.

This weekend, we are holding our flagship event, the International Men’s Sheds Festival, in the Helix on Saturday 4 October. We decided to call the event a festival as it is a celebration – a celebration of all of the great work that is happening right across the island and of all the friendships that have been fostered over the last five years since the first Irish Men’s Shed opened in Tipperary Town.

We have a great programme lined up for the day and we are honoured that the conference will be addressed by the Patron of the IMSA and President of Ireland, Michael D Higgins. Attendance at the event is free and full details can be found at www.menssheds.ie.

John Evoy is CEO and founder of the Irish Men’s Sheds Association. The Irish Men’s Sheds Association aims to work towards a future where all men have the opportunity to improve and maintain their health and well-being by participating in a community Men’s Shed.

The International Men’s Sheds Festival takes place in the Helix, DCU, Glasnevin, Dublin 9. Admission is free and all are welcome. For more information, visit www.menssheds.ie.

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    Mute Paul Parsons
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:16 AM

    Can I funnel my tax through Luxembourg?

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    Mute PicassoRepublic
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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:04 AM

    Yes if you have a Luxemburg registered limited company – however you would need to be very careful regarding legislation in your country of residence (Ireland I assume).
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    Basically, what you need is your Irish Limited Company which will employ you and pay a minimum wage and your Luxemburg Limited Company which will invoice the Irish company for services rendered (assign all of your accounting to Luxemburg).
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    That’s basically it in a nutshell, but the cost/savings analysis makes it relatively unproductive for a sole trader of services (labour).

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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:21 AM

    … and what about the Journals Luxembourg roots .

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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:22 AM

    we still haven’t got to the bottom of them yet

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    Mute hjGfIgAq
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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:41 AM

    Sorry, Dave – but what are you talking about??

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    Mute frank mullen
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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:47 AM

    Don’t take the bait Susan !!

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    Mute hjGfIgAq
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    Nov 6th 2014, 1:33 PM

    Thanks Frank, but I’ve heard this question a few times (most recently shouted at one of my colleagues as he covered a water charges protest) and I’m trying to get to the bottom of it.
    Journal Media Ltd is an independent company which is funded solely by the two brothers, Brian and Eamonn Fallon.
    We have never been to Luxembourg, although I believe Dudelange is beautiful this time of year.

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    Mute Chin Feeyin
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    Nov 6th 2014, 2:22 PM

    Susan, The Journal is an independent company?

    With the amount of pro-SF comments, you’d think it was the English language version of An Phoblacht.

    By the way, if you use the word “independent” they’ll think it is part of the “billionaire DOB FG donor media empire evil death star” :-)

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    Mute Peter Lawless
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    Nov 6th 2014, 3:46 PM

    Ah Susan!!! you are a journalist who claims she wants “to get to the bottom of the Luxembourg links” Tiger Holdings Five SARL should help your stonewalled investigation.

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    Mute hjGfIgAq
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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:18 PM

    Let me repeat it one more time for you in the back there, Peter.
    Journal Media Ltd has zero investment from anyone other than Brian and Eamonn Fallon.
    The facts – should you wish them to come in the way of your conspiracy theories – are there in black and white in our company records, publicly available from the CRO. Check them out.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 5:56 AM

    Hi Susan. Looks like he was very much right. Whilst you may never have been to Luxembourg, I think that the owners of your parent company do regularly.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/irish-companies-linked-to-further-luxembourg-tax-disclosures-1.1991514

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    Mute hjGfIgAq
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    Nov 7th 2014, 9:43 AM

    Hi Diarmuid,
    The Irish Times is totally erroneous on that score – they have not checked the company records at all. TheJournal.ie has nothing to do with that investment group, and never has been.
    We are currently speaking to the Irish Times about a clarification and removal of this false information.
    I have no idea why their experienced reporters have not bothered to check the CRO, but if they had, the information would be there for them.
    Thanks, Susan

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    Nov 7th 2014, 12:23 PM

    I did point out the parent company connection in my msg to you after my twitter account was somehow no longer able to post comments. At least my name has been cleared as a “conspiracy theorist” and actually someone who knows a bit about the finance/business world. Personally as the Journal is a 100% subsidiary of Distilled Media and it’s Distilled media that has the fund backers in Luxembourg I think the I Times are correct in what they report. But that’s just my take

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    Nov 7th 2014, 3:37 PM

    It absolutely is NOT a subsidiary of Distilled Media – AND the Irish Times have been forced to remove their erroneous reference to TheJournal.ie in that article today.
    Check the link you yourself posted, and then stop repeating untrue statements, thanks.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:17 AM

    Fat cat wallets getting fatter and households getting shafted.
    The mind boggles.

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    Mute Dan public
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:19 AM

    All companies based here should pay here or fcuk off

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:32 AM

    And who would you work for then?

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    Mute ITS Student
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    Nov 6th 2014, 12:48 PM

    C’mon Daniel, where will they flock to?

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    Mute Adam Walsh
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:28 AM

    Has anyone found the theme of today’s news ‘Blame Ireland and they’ll take the fall lying down’ it’s time we stood up to the EU and say simply enough is enough.

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    Mute ITS Student
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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:46 AM

    to be fair, thes corporate tax loopholes should never been created in the first place and the EU should keep the pressure on the gov’t to close all other loopholes and tax anomalies.

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    Mute Niall H
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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:00 AM

    How is that ‘to be fair’???

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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:15 AM

    Ireland should have refused to close the Double Irish until there was a written commitment to close tax loopholes throughout Europe.

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    Mute ITS Student
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    Nov 6th 2014, 12:57 PM

    A worker paying 51% while a corporate paying 2% is ok? Something wrong there. To my knowledge, no other European country (apart from Ireland) allows this. The point was that Adam apparently thinks it’s okay to keep these corporate tax loopholes (which the worker is subsidizing through higher taxes) while new taxes are being imposed on people elsewhere.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 1:25 PM

    ITS,
    You have very limited knowledge…

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    Nov 6th 2014, 2:25 PM

    We are the only country that has the lowest effective corporate tax rate in Europe.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 2:46 PM

    ITS,
    What are the rates in Cyprus(12.5%), Bulgaria(10%), Macedonia(10%), Montenegro(9%)….

    And while we are talking about other peoples money….
    We tax our poorest the lowest and our richest some of the highest…
    http://www.taxinstitute.ie/Portals/0/Effective%20Income%20Tax%20Rates%20Ireland%20v%207%20competitor%20countries.pdf

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    Mute Chin Feeyin
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    Nov 6th 2014, 3:41 PM

    Ah, here now, Cowboy Ted, don’t you know the comments section is not the place to bring up facts. It is, rather, the place to bring up all sorts of made up stuff starting with “I’m sure…”, and “probably….”.

    Go and take your well researched facts somewhere else, please. Honestly, the nerve of some people.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 4:30 PM

    Sorry Chin, will never do it again…
    Feel stupid now, Didn’t know actual popular opinion…

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    Mute ITS Student
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    Nov 6th 2014, 6:49 PM

    So how do corporations pay effective 2% corporation tax in Ireland? There are Irish tax loopholes that were created by successive governments. These are the problem – not other countries. Therefore, the EU (and others) should keep the pressure on this government to bring these into line with other countries.

    Transfer pricing, Patent Royalties, Subsidiary rules should be changed, to name a few. A corporation setting up in Ireland for “R&D” purposes gets a tax break – something very wrong with the Irish tax code.

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    Mute Alan R
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    Nov 6th 2014, 7:40 PM

    Just read that report Cowboy Ted, Cowboy is right. The report only compares to “competitor” countries. Ie. Hand picked countries designed to fabricate a point. This report has all the hallmarks of bias and cherry picking of stats

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:29 AM

    Thank you for telling us journal investigating team. Good work there.
    We already know companies avoid tax in perfectly legal ways and perhaps it is more than time to change the legal system.
    People paying taxes is so much easier for the rich and they should not be having tax relief but the poorer sections of communities should.
    I think this pursuit of money, this wild greed has become worse than ever and these people have no conscience for what they do is at the expense of others where a very small amount of money is critical.
    These miserly hoarders could not even touch the interest in 500 lifetimes….are they ill with greed?

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:46 AM

    It’s an AFP article.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:54 AM

    What hate i about this is very few out ther beleave or see the con we living,

    We are all working our backs off paying taxes, all long side other chagers.

    Our govermets say we need the money to pay for & improve services.

    This a con so these big compaines don’t have to pay up.

    We need to forget water protest we need.
    FAIRER TAX PROTEST

    If these compaines paid just a little more, over night our whole country could have better health care, water, education, quailty of life ect….

    All of us workers wheater you student, middle class worker, or earning a bit more.

    All our tax rates could be cut, thus releaseing more free money into our economy which would help make more jobs, reduce crime, sucides, stress. And goverments, bankers, big corps would still make.

    But no it cant be cause the modren world dose like a fairer system.

    Maybe some day if more people relize…

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    Mute Chin Feeyin
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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:17 AM

    JustMade, what was that? Something about tax, blah, blah. Too many spelling and grammar errors, almost impossible to read.

    This is why spelling is important.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:52 AM

    So what is your life that pathetic like so many out that you have to troll the internet to pick on someone with a learning disable, “ just to make yourself sound important.

    Would you say to someone who cant walk properly, this is why walking is important!!

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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:36 AM

    Burned!

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    Mute Chin Feeyin
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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:41 AM

    JustMade, you see? You can spell correctly when you make an effort. It’s not that difficult, especially with modern technology.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 11:38 AM

    Owned.ie

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:25 AM

    Don’t tell the French government

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    Nov 6th 2014, 12:50 PM

    Don’t tell the vested interests who oppose paying their fair share of tax.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 8:26 AM

    This is why Ireland should support tax harmonisation in Europe and financial transaction taxes.Even the 12.5% was too onerous for these corpoations understandably as a corporations only motivation (despite p.r. guff about corporate citizenship etc) is profit.they must be strictly controlled by governments or we become slaves to them.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 9:02 AM

    To late. We are slaves to them already.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 10:18 AM

    Tax harmonisation simply does not work when you have so many varied economies. The idea of currency harmonisation has already proven to be a bust as the EU has so many different economies with their own strengths and weaknesses.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 12:59 PM

    Tax harmonization is a good idea because it would mean more money for public services when corporates have nowhere to hide. It would also enable better health services, social programs, road building, public transport, etc.

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    Nov 7th 2014, 4:20 AM

    Buy Irish, support Irish jobs. Love Irish food! Thank you for supporting Irish. Now we are going to filter the money through Luxembourg to avoid paying tax in Ireland. Thank you. Glanbia.

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    Nov 6th 2014, 12:48 PM

    The keyword in the article is legal

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