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Bang Bang, Forty Coats... Remember any of these Dublin characters?

They’re all written about in this new book by Bobby Aherne.

Diceman The Diceman Ruan Van Vliet Ruan Van Vliet

EVERY TOWN AND city in Ireland has its characters – in Dublin, they’ve had the Diceman, Forty Coats and Bang Bang, to name but a few.

This trio are among 100 intriguing and unusual men and women featured in Bobby Aherne’s new book D’You Remember Yer Man?, a humorous and well-researched look into the lives of Dublin’s famous characters.

Aherne first came up with the idea for the book in 2011, encouraged by the lack of information about such people. He enlisted Dublin artist Ruan Van Vliet to illustrate the stories of the likes of Liverpool Annie and Decco the Caveman for his pocket-sized read.

“I found out about a few interesting characters – Bang Bang and Forty Coats – and I realised there seemed to be a lot of them. And I thought it would be interesting to read a book about them,” he recalls.

He looked online, in second-hand bookshops and libraries for a book dedicated to characters, but consistently found himself empty-handed. There was only one thing to do: write the book himself.

As he was working in the Leprechaun Museum at the time, Bobby was already reading plenty of books about folklore. Among them was a book called The Imaginary Beings, by Jorge Luis Borges, which is all about fantastical creatures.

“Everyone is going to have their own character”

“I thought that a similar kind of book, except about these Dublin characters, would be interesting,” explains Aherne.

There are only three characters in the book who are still living – Aidan Walsh, Jenny With The Dogs and Pat Ingoldsby. The rest are from a time span that stretches back 40o years.

To find out more about the individuals, Aherne first started talking to people about the old characters they remembered, and from there he came up with a list of 100 names.

“Everyone who reads the book and is from Dublin will say ‘you left out so and so’ and that is part of the fun of it. Everyone is going to have their own character,” he says.

From there, he undertook lots of researched, reading “dozens of books about Dublin in the rare old times”.

Dancing Mary Ruan Van Vliet Ruan Van Vliet

The people in his book “weren’t politicians or they weren’t people who ruled over Dublin”, says Aherne.

“They weren’t particularly important but just in being themselves and being slightly left of centre and standing out from the crowd, whether dressing differently or having a strange quirk, they were the people who are better remembered than most of their peers”.

Sometimes, it was like a “game of Chinese whispers” to find out their real-life stories, he says. “The nature of folklore is these stories changed when passed from one person to another”.

“I think a lot of them are inspirational characters too – they might have fallen on hard times and might have had financial troubles but usually they found a way to figure a way out of their rut”, he ventures.

For a lot of the people in the book, he chose not to lay out their life story. “Some people have only a few lines. A lot of that was my decision – it’s more fun if only one bit of information about that person was given”.

He keeps dates vague, with the intention that “if you read it start to finish I think you might come out thinking all these people might be still around”.

Tragedy

There are some tragic characters in D’You Remember Yer Man. “Some of them would have been in perfect health – young men who went to fight in a war and came back with post-traumatic stress disorder. There was no mental health service back then and they were left to live out their lives.”

What appeals to us about these characters? “It’s probably some sort of nosiness that is inherent in the Irish character,” laughs Aherne. “Checking to see what the neighbour is up to. Being very preoccupied with what the neigbours think and what others think about your life.”

Some characters in the book were well-known because of being entertainers, singers or buskers. Others were people with normal jobs who stood out some way. “Hairy lemon was a dog catcher but because he had yellow skin and ginger hair he became a man of interest,” describes Aherne.

The book isn’t just for people familiar with the characters, and it’s not just for people who dwell in the capital. “I tried to assume no knowledge of Dublin,” assures Aherne.

The illustrations by Van Vliet add another edge to the book.  “He did an amazing job,” says Aherne. “He did a super job of making them cartoon-y or surreal which I think goes along with the tone of the book.”

D’You Remember Yer Man? is published by New Island books and is out now.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 10:47 AM

    People rushing about yesterday after the shock that RTE hadn’t put any extra capacity on their servers for the fight.

    Come on RTE, what do we pay you for?

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    Aug 9th 2012, 10:51 AM

    :) I watched Katie’s fight online yesterday here: http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/london2012/
    The EBU is streaming a whole range of Olympic events live (though without commentary). Hope that helps if you’re stuck today!

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    Aug 9th 2012, 11:23 AM

    Best online tv for irish stations is Aertv.ie through safari on your iPhone (I have an iPhone 4), go to RTE2 HD. Uses a lot of bandwidth though, so go Wifi if you can

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    Aug 9th 2012, 10:53 AM

    What about michelle smith??

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    Aug 9th 2012, 2:21 PM

    Yeah that was my favourite memory. I know it soured afterwards but at the time it was fantastic.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 10:54 AM

    Cian O’ Connor being stripped of his gold medal is definitely up there.
    Riding a horse isn’t even a sport.
    It’s a passtime for the privileged.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 11:29 AM

    And naturally the Olympics should be reserved for the disadvantaged. You’d be a cert for gold in the ‘chip-on shoulder’, Niall

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    Aug 9th 2012, 11:45 AM

    Niall – Horse riding is for the privileged? Ha ha ha ha ha and travellers and youngfellas in the fields around Finglas and Ballymun, 2 towns well known for their champagne lifestyles and blue-blooded families.
    Its the 21st century and we have a republic now Niall. If you aspire to horse riding you can do it without having to be born with a silver spoon in your gob. Give up your flat cap and hobnail boots and they’ll even let you into the Shelbourne hotel for afternoon tea. Just remember not to spit on the carpets and don’t say “yes, Sorr” to the chaps in the tuxedos. They are the waiters.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 11:47 AM

    What a bloody horrible thing to say, regardless of wether you like show jumping, he was and is a representing Olympian for Ireland! How dare you be so disrespectful!

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    Aug 9th 2012, 1:55 PM

    Horse riding shouldn’t be in the Olympics.
    And a former cheat who was stripped of his medal isn’t entitled to any respect

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    Aug 9th 2012, 2:42 PM

    yea i mean everyone is disliking my comment about Michelle smith being the best memory. It was at the time god.

    But i guess Cian is in a more ‘posh’ sport and he’s ‘higher class’ so if he loses a medal he did nothing wrong

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    Aug 9th 2012, 10:50 AM

    Very proud of the past but Katie Taylor all the way. She has been an amazing ambassador for Ireland and the sport of boxing.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 11:05 AM

    Eddie the eagle! Always Eddie the eagle.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 12:35 PM

    John Treacy winning silver in the marathon in Los Angeles in ’84. Awesome performance by a guy who hadn’t competed in the event before.The battle he had with Charlie Spedding was incredible.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 11:30 AM

    i know Johnson ain’t Irish but its an Olympic memory for me.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 12:40 PM

    You’re right, he ‘isn’t’ Irish.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 11:57 AM

    Paddy Barnes saying he wasn’t going to medal ceremony in Beijing.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 1:05 PM

    Michael Carruth without a doubt the family were our next door neighbours , great excitement on the day and for weeks later , rte had cables running through our house , journalists looking for stories , great times , Michael sent a postcard to my mum all singed by the Irish boxing team sadly my mum and michaels dad have passed away , Austin was a gentleman , always involved in sports managed our local soccer team when I was a nipper , cherished memories .

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    Aug 9th 2012, 4:12 PM

    Sorry signed , typo !

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    Aug 9th 2012, 11:29 AM

    Michelle smith..Michael carruth and watching the phenomenal Michael Johnson atlanta 96

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    Aug 9th 2012, 12:19 PM

    When that that great irish athlete Hussein O Bolt won gold for team GB.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 12:57 PM

    Michael Carruth in 92 was amazing, and also somehow the casserole bowl exploded in the oven during the fight

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    Aug 9th 2012, 12:48 PM

    Seeing Alan Wells sprint home as winner of the 100M in Moscow (I think ?) is my earliest memory, but John Treacy winning a silver medal in the marathon was a fantastic moment – for a Waterford man !!!

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    Aug 9th 2012, 12:06 PM

    what about kenny egan winning silver last time? amazing fighter and gorgeous as well :)

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    Aug 9th 2012, 1:04 PM

    The end of every Olympics. Does my head in :-)

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    Aug 9th 2012, 1:37 PM

    Yeah does my head in too, I hate when it ends.

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    Aug 10th 2012, 4:49 AM

    Most exhilarating memory is Sonia O’Sullivan bursting clear of the pack to lead the 3000m going round the final bend in 1992 in Barcelona.

    Most painful memory was watching her fade in the final stretch to finish in that most cruel of spots, fourth.

    For the sheer roller coaster of emotions, that was the most memorable for me.

    I was only 10 at the time but I can picture it vividly.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 11:00 PM

    Ronnie Delaney.

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    Aug 9th 2012, 7:42 PM

    Sean Drey and Eamonn Coughlan came so close in Montreal and Moscow. So when I found myself sitting up to watch the Marathon of the LA Olympics it didn’t seem possible that John Treacy could actually pull it off. It was the first time I saw an Irish athlete win anything! (Apologies Mick Dowling but I wasn’t watching.)

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