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Irish people seem to trust the judges and the legal system...

… although politicians, not so much.

A REPORT BY a major European anti-corruption body has commended the Irish judiciary for it “independence and integrity”.

The Group of States against Corruption (GRECO) is an affiliate of the Council of Europe and today’s report focuses specifically on the Irish parliamentary and judicial systems.

It was found that the Judiciary and Prosecution Service were thought to be among the “most trusted public institutions in Ireland”, with the independence and professionalism of judges here described as “undisputed”.

In contrast to this – and in keeping with a trend common across Europe – political parties and politicians enjoy low levels of trust, despite the legislative process in Irish Parliament being considered to have a high level of transparency.

Findings

Welcoming the report’s findings today, Minister for Justice Frances Fitzgerald, said:

We, as a nation, value the principle of judicial independence and it is important that this principle is recognised by an international evaluation team such as GRECO and that the independence and professionalism of our judges is undisputed.

The report was also welcomed by Chief Justice Susan Denham. In her response she said:

The Irish Judiciary is very conscious of the critical importance of – and will continually work to maintain – that trust which the public reposes in it, which is founded on the principle of judicial independence as guaranteed in our Constitution, and which every judge solemnly commits to uphold on being appointed.

Corruption 

The report looks at corruption in respect of judges, members of parliament and prosecutors.

It is noted in the report that their has been a growing concern about corruption in Ireland since the conclusion in 2012 of the Mahon Tribunal - which had examined corruption allegations in relation to planning permission and rezoning issues.

In specific relation to parliamentarians, it is noted that corruption had increased – although from a fairly low initial level.

Today’s findings acknowledged that “despite not having been considered as particularly affected by corruption” – anti-corruption policies had been introduced in Ireland over the past number of years.

Reforms

The report makes a number of recommendations as to improvements in the way that the Irish lawmaking and judicial system could be run.

For members of the Dáil and Seanad it is recommended that further protection should be afforded to whistleblowers under the House of the Oireachtas Act 2013.

It is also recommended that members of both houses be required to make wider declarations about their financial interests – and that these include declarations relating to the interests of “close or connected persons” to themselves.

As part of the report, it is suggested that an independent statutory council be established for the judiciary.

It is also noted that the reduction of public salaries due to the financial crisis may have compromised the constitutional safeguarding of judges independent and professional standards.

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    Mute Etheric Projection
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:05 AM

    I don’t and I’m Irish. Don’t remember being asked my opinion… (A system that gives suspended sentences to criminals but puts honest folk in prison for standing up for the truth)

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    Mute Randle P McMurphy
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:43 AM

    A closeted, cliquey, deluded group of overpaid, borderline-honest, chancers. Recent criminal case I have knowledge of had a barrister ‘afraid’ to introduce a line of questioning for fear he’d ‘annoy’ the judge, and also didn’t want to ‘bushwhack’ his opposite no. in prosecution as “he and his wife were at my wedding”!! Funnily enough, the statement of professional fees I believe had no such hesitancy in boasting of their adroitness though!!

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    Mute SeanieRyan
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:55 AM

    Why do people here respect and trust the legal system here?

    The legal system is as bent as the political landscape. They are co-joined twins.

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    Mute Brandon Steers
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:58 AM

    Well holy god seanie, you’re certainly changing your tune about the whole political landscape over the last few weeks. Have you had a political awakening?

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    Mute SeanieRyan
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    Nov 21st 2014, 12:06 PM

    I suppose when you start to reject one central aspect of your political discourse that everything else that flows from that will be questioned as well.

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    Mute bandido
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:19 AM

    What f’ing planet was this report carried out on?
    Not a day goes by in this country where the general population aren’t appalled by weak sentences handed down to repeat offenders.

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    Mute thetruth
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:14 AM

    When a rapist walks free with a fine and a suspended sentence…how can you trust them

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    Mute Dara O'Brien
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:45 PM

    The 20 Ched Evans fans just disagreed with you ;)

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    Mute Dawes30
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    Dec 2nd 2014, 9:35 PM

    Which case are you taking about where someone convicted of rape was fined, given a suspended sentence and walked away? And did you actually attend court for any of this? Or are you just making assumptions based on reading tabloids.

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    Mute Harry Price
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    Jan 13th 2015, 10:30 PM

    The corruption within is covertly covered up behind closed doors in secret and held to be just by judges that hold to be independent in their duty wrong or right .,. how more corrupt can it be then this …………………………………………………

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    Mute Tom Red
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:12 AM

    Like Irish judges???…
    Do Irish judges realise they can impose double digit year sentences on violent criminals???

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    Mute Martin Byrne
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:11 AM

    Another deluded ivory tower dweller. Talking complete and utter gibberish about us trusting the judicial system.

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    Mute Derek Durkin
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:11 AM

    All the top judges are politically appointed so they’re just an extension of the government and to take them on in the courts costs an arm and a leg….Justice system has been bought and paid for a long time ago……it’s a big fat NO from me.

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    Mute jason bourne
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:32 AM

    Exactly Derek. To be a judge you have to be politically connected. The way they are appointed is ridiculous. Check out the JAAB.

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    Mute The Throwaway
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:46 AM

    ALL judges are political signed off on. Not just the higher ones. All of them. Same for Superintendents and above in AGS, are all politically signed off on (an argument can be made that politics also affects sgt and inspector ranks as well, but that’s another day).

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    Mute Tammylee Murphy
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:19 AM

    Old boys club who live under a big rock

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    Mute Jack Cass
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:05 AM

    I do not trust you.

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    Mute Brandon Steers
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:08 AM

    This is another prime example of somebody with a heightened sense of importance living on a completely different planet than the rest of us.

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    Mute Scarr
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:18 AM

    I wouldn’t consider the judiciary corrupt, out of touch is another matter, though.

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    Mute Liz Potts
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:24 AM

    Or perhaps just having an opinion that differs from yours- oh no!

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    Mute Jonathan Bambury
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    Nov 21st 2014, 2:52 PM

    The only citizens who have any faith in the irish judiciary are ones that ain’t been in court in over a decade or the deluded ones that still have blind faith in the rest of our joke of a system

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    Mute john kinsella
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    Nov 21st 2014, 6:53 PM

    Tatler did that report just after they gave Joan her women of the year award.

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    Mute E
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    Nov 21st 2014, 10:07 PM

    I don’t trust them.

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    Mute E
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    Nov 21st 2014, 10:08 PM

    Any chance of an auld journal poll to see if this “trust” reflects in journal readers?

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    Mute Darren Treacy
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:12 AM

    I don’t. Judges are corrupt dirtbirds.

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    Mute Mark Malone
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:24 AM

    I’ll start trusting them when they lock up the charlatans in the DAIL.

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    Mute Hevin Bear Kiggins
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:20 AM

    Having spent 2 years in court over 3 grams of cannabis which cost the state 10,000. No I am not very confidence in that system, although I legislation change would fix that.

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    Mute George Orwell
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:41 AM

    So the revolving door prison system, laughable police force, and criminal tourists aren’t of concern? Only in Ireland.

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    Mute SeanieRyan
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    Nov 21st 2014, 12:00 PM

    This is a Eu body report.

    By EU standards it is upstanding, fair and trustworthy.

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    Mute Stephen Doyle
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:29 AM

    Lol more comedy

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    Mute Angel Gleeson
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:32 AM

    Say what? I trust no one not even my shadow that’s a sneaky little thing following you around all day. No faith in justice, courts, police, TD’s, not even in the president.

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    Mute Brendan Julian
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:52 AM

    I guess thats a normal comment coming from a non national

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    Mute Martin Hayes
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    Nov 21st 2014, 12:08 PM

    Where did these guys get their information, from the Beano?
    Low levels of political corruption, competence and fairness in the legal system? I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

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    Mute James Bergin
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:36 AM

    Seriousy deluded finding. I wouldnt be of their opinion what so ever. Mind boggling

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    Mute Cupid Stunt
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:46 AM

    How come they’ve sided with the govt on water charges and not looked at the legality of forcing contracts on people. It’s insane really.

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    Mute dearg doom
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:40 AM

    Are they f*cking joking?

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    Mute Johnny Downes
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    Nov 21st 2014, 12:02 PM

    ” Seem to trust” ? What does that mean or imply? Judges seem to be overpaid? Are they? They seem to make inconsistent , and contradictory judgments. . They seem to be independent, but as political appointees are they. ? I wonder what Louise O’ Keeffe thinks about them.?

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    Mute Lisa McMahon Keenan
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    Nov 21st 2014, 12:38 PM

    Another delusional report. There really wacking them out these days.

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    Mute dearg doom
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    Nov 21st 2014, 11:45 AM

    It’s actually hard to make out what the report says to be honest.

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    Mute Gaius Gracchus
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    Nov 21st 2014, 12:57 PM

    This case of an ex-judge is all you need to know about our ‘judges’ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Curtin

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    Mute Snorre Sturleson
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    Nov 21st 2014, 3:10 PM

    The judiciary are owned by the government, all appointed by politicians and know their masters. Were the government to lift the embargo on banks calling in judicial debts, there would be many a defrocked judge and SC. So manners and doing masters bidding is a given. No garlic on my patch, white collar to the back bone old boy!

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    Mute skoda
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    Nov 21st 2014, 5:23 PM

    Justice Denham I’m sure that you don’t have the right to speak for the majority of Irish people. Its not fare that just because you are a judge in the courts that you think people are treated fairly. I had a case in the High Court and I could never say that there was any fairness there. If anything it was because of corruption that I lost my case.

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    Mute Spiderman
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    Nov 21st 2014, 1:54 PM

    Even I have to question those findings.

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    Mute Vic
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    Nov 22nd 2014, 2:44 AM

    Really? I don’t agree. They’re all part of the elite 1%. With money, comes greed and power, with power comes back handers.

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    Mute Michael Reilly
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    Nov 21st 2014, 6:50 PM

    “It is also noted that the reduction of public salaries due to the financial crisis may have compromised the constitutional safeguarding of judges independent and professional standards”.
    I was taking the article seriously until I read the last paragraph. Who was surveyed – the Judges and barristers?

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    Mute Kevin Beakey
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    Nov 21st 2014, 6:16 PM

    Is it me or is Susan deneham a doppelganger of Tony sopranos mother

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    Mute gus sheridan
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    Apr 19th 2016, 9:32 PM

    Politically appointed judges hardly ever actually jailing criminals, what planet are these muppets on? Judges are a joke in Ireland and not trusted.

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