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"I can’t breathe": New York protesters shout Eric Garner's final words

Father of six Eric Garner died after being placed in a chokehold by a white police officer.

THOUSANDS OF PROTESTERS clogged streets in New York and other major US cities for a second straight night to condemn police killings of young black suspects.

The largely peaceful demonstrations came as details emerged of another racially tinged death.

America’s largest city of 8.4 million again saw bursts of outrage after a grand jury on Wednesday decided not to indict a white officer for the death by chokehold of an unarmed black father-of-six.

Demonstrators blocked roads, tunnels and bridges, with many of them shouting “I can’t breathe” — the words that heavy-set asthma sufferer Eric Garner, 43, gasped repeatedly as police wrestled and held him to the ground during his arrest in July for selling un-taxed cigarettes.

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Video of the arrest has been aired repeatedly on TV. Garner, a father of six, died of what was called a heart attack.

Dozens of people were arrested in Thursday’s rallies, the New York Times reported, quoting police.

Demonstrations were also held in Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington DC, where they snarled traffic near the White House as President Barack Obama lit the national Christmas tree.

Protest 

As helicopters hovered above, thousands of activists massed in New York’s Foley Square, near the city police headquarters shouting “Shut it down” and carrying placards saying “Black Lives Matter” and “Racism Kills.”

“We cannot tolerate police impunity. The government has to do something. They have a video showing what happened,” said a 40-year-old demonstrator who gave his name only as Jonathan.

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Police sealed off the Holland Tunnel, the key road link into New Jersey as US media reported that thousands streamed up the west side of Manhattan, clogging streets in downtown Manhattan and shutting traffic on the Manhattan Bridge heading to Brooklyn.

Another group marched across the Brooklyn Bridge, with a black banner that said “this stops today” and 10 black coffins inscribed with names of people killed by police in different city boroughs.

Further controversy  

National controversy over Garner’s death and a series of other incidents were fanned further Thursday by a damning US federal investigation which concluded that police in Cleveland routinely employ “excessive force.”

In Arizona meanwhile, police said a white officer shot dead a 34-year-old black man during a confrontation outside a convenience store.

Phoenix police said the officer involved shot dead Rumain Brisbon after mistakenly believing he was reaching for a gun inside his jacket. In fact he was unarmed.

The killing is the latest of several cases since the death of Garner which have triggered a national debate about how minorities are treated by police and the American criminal justice system.

Police shot dead a 12-year-old boy in Cleveland last month while another grand jury last week decided not to prosecute a white officer in Ferguson, Missouri who killed unarmed black teen Michael Brown in August.

Black lives matter 

Protests in New York have been overwhelmingly peaceful but police arrested 83 people following Wednesday’s decision not to press charges in Garner’s death.

At the Manhattan ferry terminal to Staten Island, the New York borough where Garner died, protesters briefly tried to break apart metal barriers erected by police.

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“Here you can beg for your life but the police will not care,” said protester Margarita Rosario, whose 18-year-old son Anthony and nephew were killed by New York police in 1995.

“Nothing will change here until people will react like in Ferguson,” said Rosario, who lives in the Bronx.

Systematic deficiencies 

The federal investigation into policing in Cleveland began 18 months ago and was not linked specifically to the killing on November 22 of black 12-year-old Tamir Rice in a city playground by police.

Officers responded to a report that a youth was brandishing a gun, but Rice was later found to be carrying a toy, and a video of the incident showed police opening fire within seconds of their arrival.

“We have determined that there is reasonable cause to believe that the Cleveland Division of Police engages in a pattern or practice of using excessive force,” US Attorney General Eric Holder said.

He blamed this on “systemic deficiencies, including insufficient accountability, inadequate training and equipment, ineffective policies and inadequate engagement with the community.”

Holder has said federal civil rights investigations were being held both the death of Brown in Ferguson and Garner in New York.

“In recent days, millions of people throughout the nation have come together — bound by grief and anguish – in response to the tragic deaths of Michael Brown… and Eric Garner,” Holder said.

“And as President Obama and I have indicated, the time has come to do even more.”

Obama, America’s first black president, briefly addressed the inherent mistrust many black Americans have of police.

“We recognise this is an American problem and not just a black problem or a brown problem,” Obama said.

- © AFP, 2014

Read: NYPD cop won’t face charges over chokehold death of unarmed man

Also: ‘We’re here to deal with the rotten apples’: Thousands rally over chokehold death in New York

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:08 AM

    That video was a really distressing thing to watch. Lethal force should be the last resort, not the default response. Police officers can manage to bring a white man into custody who shoots up a movie theatre killing a dozen or more and is armed to the teeth but they feel the need to kill any black man who looks at them sideways because they feel threatened.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:14 AM

    Well said Dylan. And all you racists deep down no this is true especially in North ameriKKKas.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:19 AM

    Everyone who resists arrest should expect to be killed in the process? He did resist arrest and should have been detained like any other person. The chokehold used on him was an illegal manoeuvre that police are not allowed to use on suspects to bring them under restraint because of the obvious danger it poses to their safety. Through cries of “I can’t breathe” he continues to apply the chokehold while also lying on top of the man. You rest easy at night in the knowledge that this mans death was justified because he was selling untaxed cigarettes. People have been in shootouts with the police and have been brought in alive.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:25 AM

    You seem to think that the cops wanted to kill him for looking sideways. Lovely disinformation by the way. Rest easy in your ignorance. He had 31 prior arrests, and was a massive build. There was limited ways to bring him to the ground. Tragic incident, but go ahead and use this for more race baiting.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:34 AM

    http://m.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30324852 I’m sorry, disinformation? You might want to ring up the BBC it appears you know more than they do. I never said they ‘wanted’ to kill him, or that any white police officer wants to kill black men. My argument is that they could care less either way; if the guy does or doesn’t die doesn’t seem to bother them. Darren Wilson, regardless of whether or not you agree or disagree in whether he was justified, shows absolutely no empathy for Michael Brown being killed. It is well documented that police officers who kill while on duty experience ptsd, depression etc afterwards and often take leave. When asked if he would do anything differently or could have prevented Browns death, Wilson replied flat out “No.” That is the mentality of most police towards black men in America. They don’t ‘want’ to kill them, but if they die, ‘so what’?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:35 AM

    ‘…but they feel the need to kill any black man who looks at them sideways because they feel threatened.’ This is exactly where you lose all credibility, Dylon.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:47 AM

    Fair point that lethal force should be the last resort not the default response Dylan, but are you aware that in all age cohorts apart from <20 cops in the US kill far more white people than black people??

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:51 AM

    George, the man did not deserve to die. How many cops were involved in the arrest? The guy was incapacitated but yet the cop still continued to choke him. I don’t know in what world you see this behaviour as being correct. It’s nothing got to do with how many arrests he had, it’s to do with using lethal force in a situation that didn’t warrant it.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:53 AM

    At the end of the day this guy was killed for selling smokes which resulted in a loss of revenue for New York. The cop used an illegal choke hold and should be done for manslaughter. This is sending a message that it ok for cops to kill.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:54 AM

    The chokehold is not illegal in NY state. These thugs have ruined the city.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:55 AM

    Meaningless statistic, Avina. Black people are a minority, while you’re googling useless stats you should look up what that means. There are less of them to be killed. What is the level of black deaths by police per black population compared with the number of white deaths by police per white population, then you’re comparing like with like.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:59 AM

    “Cops in the US kill far more white people than black people.”

    Would you like to add a source to that information?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:00 AM

    @GeorgeOrwell black people killing other black people go to jail, so I don’t understand your comparison. When white people kill other white people they go to jail as well especially if they were poor. But when an officer of the law kills an unarmed civilian they should be held accountable and that is where the injustice lies, that is why people are outraged. You deflecting the issue shows everybody where your true morals lie and I’m not the least bit surprised as you use a fake page to voice your subtle racism. If one truly believes in their opinion, one shoulder be able to stand behind it with a true and verifiable account.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:13 AM

    ShanklysLegacy, open that article I linked above about the chokehold, yes they are illegal and have been prohibited in NY since the 1980′s.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:14 AM

    *should

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:25 AM

    Careful Sanya, its a well known fact that the people who most hate to be called racist are in fact racists. The desperation to be validated as ‘not a racist’ is embarrassingly telling. If you know you’re not a racist George, why do you need to be told so? “I created a fake page because my real one got banned a long time ago for trolling” says it all. Clearly youre unable to properly defend your beliefs ‘George’, put on the defensive and your only move is to throw your toys out of the pram.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:27 AM

    @avina. Do your figures refer to the percentage of suspects killed or the raw numbers? No matter which, they show that American police kill an extraordinary number of people every year. The country has huge problems.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:32 AM

    No Dylan, when the figures are adjusted for levels of criminality, then you’re comparing like with like.

    Of course there is racism in the US (as there is in every other country) and someone would need to be pretty naive to think that it didn’t extend to the ranks of the police. But there are also many people out there with an agenda to very publicly play the racism card at every opportunity – people who aren’t interested in getting to the actual facts of any given case as long as they can put a racism/oppression slant on it. Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown are two cases in point.

    Imho stoking the flames of racial hatred at every opportunity is a dangerous path to go down – it is hugely divisive and results in the sort of riots we have seen in which more people lose their lives.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:42 AM

    If you remove race from this you’re left with:

    Petty criminal, killed by police using illegal manoeuvre.

    The cop should be done for manslaughter. Really, really simple.

    Also, as usual George your comments are vile.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:42 AM

    But Dylan, George has more foreign national friends than Sanya. That’s the textbook definition for ‘not a racist’. Didn’t you know that?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:43 AM

    And as Tommy Tiernan said, “There’s a fine line between racism and just having the craic.”

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:49 AM

    >Doesn’t see things through the “prism of race”
    >Has friends and then has ‘foreign national friends’

    It would be worrying if he wasn’t so obviously and desperately a troll, I’m almost annoyed at myself for entertaining him for this long.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:54 AM

    Lots of bigots here today. Defending the police apparently makes me a racist. Typical of anarchists.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:57 AM

    I have yet to be told what I said which was racist? Anyone care tell me?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:59 AM

    We’re anarchists as well now are we, on top of everything else? Jesus I found out a lot about myself this morning. Good luck now George. We can’t all sit in front of the computer all day chugging on Mountain Dew and picking food out of our neck beards waiting for replies on the Journal comments section.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:01 AM

    How the hell are your comments still on here?!!! Is there someone asleep at the wheel in Journal.ie??! Get rid of this idiot!!!!!!

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:07 AM

    He didn’t actually say anything racist though, people. People always bring racism into an argument to justify their own argument and discredit others.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:08 AM

    Dylan – 1st off. Mountain Dew is awesome, so it’s not really an insult. I don’t have a neckbeard, and I’m not sure what facial hair has to do with it? Maybe you are jealous because you will be the eternal baby face?

    I doubt you learned anything about yourself. Your delusion that there is a conspiracy amongst police officers “to kill any black man who looks at them sideways because they feel threatened” is just eye rollingly ridiculous. Don’t even bother to try take some sort of moral high ground when your argument is fiction.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:10 AM

    Tom – I never mentioned race, however, note how often my detractors use race and racism in their arguments, then accuse me of being racist. The irony is almost too much for me to handle

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:23 AM

    Wow @george Orwell I’m actually just laughing at your statements “I got banned for trolling”, the fact you got banned says a lot about your character and with regards to the line “I have more foreign friends than you”, do you want a medal for that?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:25 AM

    The levels of police violence have risen in direct proportion to the ever widening gap between rich and poor in American society. As more and more of the population are driven into poverty with the inevitable accompanying social problems of crime, drugs etc, it takes a bigger, more heavily armed and aggressive police force to control the people and prevent mass civil unrest.

    The primary role of the police is to enforce the will of the state on civil society. Therefore they are often used as a tool to oppress and control the working class whose interests are diametrically opposed to those of a capitalist controlled government. In this scenario, increasing police violence is guaranteed as U.S. capitalism beggars the many for the benefit of the few.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:26 AM

    Sanya – Why would I want a medal. I got a accused of being a racist, so naturally, I want to defend myself. You still never told what I said that was racist. Can you please do that, Sanya?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:32 AM

    Come on Sanya – Are you not able to backup your slanderous statement?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:36 AM

    George,

    I haven’t mentioned race and I don’t think you’re a racist.

    Take race out of the equation and you still have police brutality, resulting in manslaughter.

    That’s what you’re defending.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:52 AM

    Sean – If the deceased had complied with the police, they wouldn’t have had to force themselves on him. Sure, it could be argued that it was manslughter, but the fact is that here was a dangerous guy [because of his massive size, and 31 previous arrests] who did not comply with the police. I’m not a lawyer, so obviously I don’t know exactly what should have happened after the incident, but I do know that both parties are responsible for what happened.

    You seem to be reasonable enough. Just look at the race baiting comments, and other nonsensical comments which get overwhelming support. Look at all the people who agree with Dylan’s initial comment that cops “feel the need to kill any black man who looks at them sideways because they feel threatened.” Does it not worry you a tiny bit that so many people can live in such delusion?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:53 AM

    @miss sanya

    heres a few stats

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1417739994373.png

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:57 AM

    @gerorge Orwell, the fact you were banned from trolling says you a racist. The fact that you can look at the severe injustice that Eric Garner and his family have gone through and not see racism is beyond me. But no, you side with the police who used extreme force that led to the a death, no a homicide, and in your eyes the police did nothing wrong? this is why I said you use subtle racism, just because you don’t go around calling people the “n-word” does not mean you are not a racist, racism can be something as subtle and as casual like agreeing that the police can behave with impunity, cause the deaths of so many of a particular colour and socio economic background and still your only answer is well it’s the victim faults, but as a troll why would you understand that?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:57 AM

    Well done Dylan for opting for the populist approach. ‘Quick, label everything as racist and loads of people will agree with you and like your comments’. Labelling absolutely anything connected with any sort of race issue as ‘racist’ is the go-to position for so many people in this country, because in my opinion we don’t fully understand matters to do with race. We have only existed as a genuinely multicultural society for about ten-fifteen years, so out of fear of actually discussing the issues and the fear of being offensive through genuinely not having had enough contact with other races, our default response to everything is ‘oh that’s so racist’ just in case we offend anyone with our views,its the safe choice. This view is then publicly supported by most people around to avoid any further awkwardness. As is the case here.

    In this case a grand jury was convened. What that means is that a jury (typically 23 people) heard the facts of the case and decided whether there were any charges to be preferred. They decided on no charges here.They have much more intimate knowledge of the case than anyone on here I would’ve thought. While the autopsy showed neck and chest compression (by police), this was coupled with heart disease, asthma, obesity and hypertensive cardiovascular disease. Crucially there was no damage to his windpipe or neckbones. Having said that, if the police officer used excessive force then discipline him for sure but are all the racism accusations necessary?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:01 AM

    Yeah the Justice system is always right? have you looked up the case of Affluenza, or the du Pont heir Robert H. Richards or even O.J. Simpson because the justice system was right in all those cases?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:11 AM

    Sanya – Haha, now I am the one wo is laughing. My trolling had nothing to do with racism. The fact you instantly assume it did, is a great indicator of how defensive you are on issues of race. Everytime you feel threatened, you fall back into your safe corner where you can accuse people of being racist. Sorry hunny, but that sh!t wont fly. I haven’t said one racist thing, and here you are calling me racist multiple times. I guess anybody that doesn’t hate the cops like you do is racist, right?

    I never said that the police can act with impunity, but once again you are labelling like I do. In fact, I stated to Sean, that it could be viewed as manslughter. I have a feeling that debating with you is pointless however, because you don’t really see a debate, do you? You just see 2 sides. Your side, then everyone else is a racist. Thanks for fanning the flames of hate. You are doing a great job.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:37 AM

    @ a lot of them dont go to jail due to lack of evidence etc. there were 2 unarmed white people killed by police officers (one of whom was a black cop) in he same week that Brown was shot. I dont see white people rioting and looting and demonstrating. heres a Booker T Washington quote for you.

    “There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:40 AM

    @Dylan

    Do you have any evidence that Darren Wilson is racist? He said he would have done the same thing if he had been attacked in his car by a white man.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:46 AM

    @George, when you said “Typical of anarchists.”, you obviously have no clue what anarchists stand for and you have just been swept up in the media’s usage of the term. Idiot.

    And as for “If the deceased had complied with the police, they wouldn’t have had to force themselves on him. Sure, it could be argued that it was manslughter, but the fact is that here was a dangerous guy [because of his massive size, and 31 previous arrests] who did not comply with the police.” – all he did, as we can see in the video, is not put his hands behind his back for cuffing. The cop immediately pulls him into a choke hold after that and kills him. You are a sick, sick man if you believe his death was justified because he didn’t put his hands behind his back.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:49 AM

    Sorry George,

    Running around today.

    I agree, calling what you said racist, was inaccurate. Referring to someone you didn’t like as a “c***” however is pretty deplorable, as well as a number of other comments you made on other stories here.

    What the cop did was against regulations, for me that’s the ONLY relevant thing the Grand Jury should have ruled on. It’s not about race (or shouldn’t be) to them.

    The cop did something he wasn’t supposed to, which resulted in the death of another person. He has a case to answer as far as I’m concerned.

    If race did play a factor in the cop’s actions or the Grand Jury’s verdict, is pure speculation, but regardless of that, they both got it wrong in the actions and the rulings.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:54 AM

    Because he trolled before, that automatically means he’s a racist? Are you serious?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:29 PM

    I stated the other evening on this. I have many years behind me in combat sports. What that cop did was strangulation. Call it as it is. A rear naked choke is not designed to be put on someone for that amount of time. That police man should be up for man slaughter. The policeman was poorly, or not trained at all to do this. There was absolutely no need to restrain someone in this manner. He put on the choke hold, which shows that…
    A. He panicked
    B. knew no other method of restraint.
    C. Over reacted
    D. All of the above

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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:31 PM

    George limited ways to bring him to the ground. Im 5’9″ and could have taken him down 5 different ways

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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:40 PM

    @Sanya
    “The fact that you can look at the severe injustice that Eric Garner and his family have gone through and not see racism is beyond me.”

    The fact that you can look at it and automatically jump to the conclusion that it was racism is also beyond me.

    What happened to Eric Garner was wrong. In my opinion him and his family are certainly the victims of injustice and unnecessary police aggression, but where’s your evidence (other than supposition on your part) that this had anything whatsoever to do with the colour of his skin? Where’s your evidence that Eric Garner would have been treated differently if he had been white?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 2:44 PM

    ‘My life as a legend’ by the truth. So panicking and resorting to an ill advised method to physically control someone when you’re under pressure is beyond your understanding, is it? I’m not trying to defend him, it clearly contributed to this mans death in this case and that should be given its due investigation. But for Christs sake, to suggest a policeman on the streets of New York City will never get panicked? Will never need to resort to some ill advised act to control someone who’s being arrested and are putting the cop under severe pressure? It would seem to me that this is what can potentially happen in the real world, life is not a self defense class, and no harm to you but no amount of combat training in a very controlled environment would prepare you for life as a cop in New York in my opinion.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:41 AM

    Don’t forget the 2 paramedics that arrived did nothing for the patient !

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:47 AM

    Did you hear about the white kid shot and killed by the black Police officer in Salt Lake City the day after Michael Brown?
    No? Didn’t think so. His name was Dillon Taylor.
    He was unarmed like Brown and Garner.
    Unlike Brown and Garner he wasn’t a criminal, he wasn’t a habitual drug user, and unlike Brown he didn’t attack a police officer.

    However, most importantly he wasn’t black so his death wasn’t news.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:37 AM

    Good for nothing , the two paramedics were a disgrace, I hope none of you New York Christmas shoppers get a heart attack on the street, two ladies out of burger king would have done more to help him, plus not s single brain cell between six policemen, frightening. Who trains these people.

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    Mute Gareth Keane
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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:21 PM

    WHITE LIVES MATTER. Shut the f&*ck up will ya. One white guy gets killed by a black cop, therefore all of the protests in America are unwarranted. Someone get this guy on a plane to the States because clearly he has all the answers to solve this situation.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:28 PM

    Eighth times more Whites are killed by Blacks each year than Blacks killed by Whites. More Whites are killed by cops than Blacks killed by copes, each year. Whilst this incident was wrong, let’s not portray Blacks as perpetual victims.

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    Dec 6th 2014, 4:31 PM

    I suppose since black people are in such a minority, then it would be likely that there would be more white people killed by police overall, but that does not mean that there are not a disproportionate number of black people killed by police.

    The real concern surely is that they seem to have a brutal police state and a society that is steeped in violence and guns. Living under such a regime for anybody would surely be hideous…

    I think it could be a bit naive to assert that black people are not treated differently by some white people in the US, when you consider how recent the history of slavery and serious routine violent abuse of black people is in the country’s history.

    I think their real issue is that they seem to have such mistrust and fear between different sections of society, and the brutality of the police force only feeds into the meme that they all need their guns to protect themselves from a brutal and threatening state! They all need to work together for justice and respect in their society and to curb the power of their police force so that it gets back to humbly serving citizens… and they need to get rid of guns from their society… that’s the real reason why police are armed and so nervous and trigger happy – because there is such a real possibility that civilians they encounter may be armed… that is not to say there is any justification whatsoever for their undoubted routine brutality.

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    Dec 6th 2014, 4:44 PM

    I saw this Huffington Post article about the shooting of that boy Dillon Taylor… shocking and horrific…

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/dillon-taylor-shooting-justified_n_5912976.html

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:10 AM

    ‘Man caught breaking the law by selling untaxed cigarettes resists arrest and dies in the struggle, due to health issues’
    The race-baiters have a lot of blood on their hands.
    In the 503 days leading up to George Zimmerman’s acquittal, 10,863 blacks were murdered by other blacks,
    Can you name one…??

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:24 AM

    That stat only exists due to the (largely racist) 2 tier society that exists in the US. They did not kill kill each other because they are black they killed each other because they’re from a poor social background. For a police officer to kill an unarmed man using an unapproved method of restraint is not OK.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:27 AM

    Ye, America is so racist, they have a black president.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:32 AM

    @George – and he is also the most hated president… race relations are better but racism is still endemic.. 40 years ago in some parts blacks had to sit elsewhere on the bus – only 40 years ago not 140. America has serious societal problems… too gun happy.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:45 AM

    40 years ago was 1974, Sarge. Brown v. BoE was 1954(60 years) and The Civil Rights Act was 1964(50 years). And as a side note–New York has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the US.
    Don’t let facts get in the way of a good story.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:07 AM

    @george Orwell, so by the mere fact that they have a black president America has eradicated racism? By that logic, because they have not had a female president, America is still sexist? Your logic is laughable!

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:45 AM

    Francie,

    I like what you did there. Leave out the ONLY relevant part of the entire story.

    ‘Man caught breaking the law by selling untaxed cigarettes resists arrest and dies in the struggle, due to illegal technique, banned because of its high risk of causing undue harm or death’.

    Remove race from the equation and you still have excessive force, resulting in death. e.g. Manslaughter.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 3:31 PM

    Should also be mentioned that the cops approached him due to a shop keeping claiming he was selling loose cigarettes but they found no cigarettes on him, the cops had every intention of arresting the guy for something, didn’t matter what, you say “hey man, I didn’t do anything!” or similar and it’s resisting arrest. The sequence of events are also in the polices favour and to attest or to claim that cops have no reason to be hassling him can be classed as resisting arrest even before they place him under arrest. It’s one of the broad catch all charges dished out and used in the majority of arrests along with others in the hope the DA can get a conviction on one or more charges. Any interaction with police, whether quilt or not can get you a string of convictions.
    I only highlight this as many people are under the impression that resisting arrest means being evasive or physical towards police after they issue an arrest.
    Where this in the US is not necessarily the case and often used to warrant police violence towards citizens, witnesses to crimes or questionable police actions.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:30 AM

    The main issue here is not the choke hold its because the cop is white. If the cop was black there would be nothing about it. Now that’s racist

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:48 AM

    Eh… So it’s racist to point out obvious systemic racism? Cool!

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:10 AM

    @malcom jones indeed, if it looks like a racism, sounds like racism, to a racist it is not racism, just normal behaviour and they can’t possibly understand why everybody (both blacks and whites ) are outraged.

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    Dec 6th 2014, 5:05 PM

    When you say there would be nothing about it, do you suggest that the conservative mass media is controlled by Black Americans?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:58 AM

    America…

    Officially a POLICE STATE.

    Is Ireland next?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:22 AM

    Er, no

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:38 AM

    What a disgrace, about 6 fully grown, overweight men putting all their weight on that guy. US police should be ashamed of themselves.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:44 AM

    Is it any surprise at the disfunctional nature of american society with huge gun crime, isolated gun massacres etc when you openly have this kind of thugery being actioned by the Police….the guys who are supposed to be protecting the civilians!!! Then it is further championed by the justice system who do not implicate the police officers in question for criminal trial!

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:35 AM

    Is it still 1814 in the US?

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:42 AM

    And every day in America a white cop is shot by a black gangster and it doesn’t make global headlines – go figure

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:29 AM

    The fact that cops get shot in America has nothing to do with this case; that is a separate argument. What you will find if we have that argument though is that it is a result of massive social inequality in the US, but this is about a man who was choked to death when he was no threat what so ever and there is video evidence to prove it. I mean people like you are picking at so many straws and are bending over backwards to justify the death of this guy. It’s sick. The Ferguson case has some problems with witnesses, etc. but this case has absolutely no ambiguity what so ever and look, same outcome for the killer. That’s not right.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:37 AM

    Like the kids in the hood have always been rapping about police brutality it’s been going on forever. 1988 N.W.A released f the police song written by icecube who saw his unarmed friend choked to death. L. A riots 92 Rodney king same old police brutality sh$t. Ice t then released cop killer. Can you see the clear picture. Cops in ameriKKKa don’t care if they kill because they know they will walk.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 11:36 AM

    The last time I said that the US is steeped in racism I was all but boiled in oil! I lived and was educated there for ten years……..it is on of the more racist countries on the planet. The only difference in the US of today and the US of the 50/60′s is that discrimination is now illegal. That fact however has made no difference whats so ever in the inbred hatred of almost anyone that isn’t white.

    Read Timothy Egan’s article in the New York Times today about the disgraceful treatment that President Obama and his family have had to put up with simply because they are black…..it is unprecedented in American history.

    Think of how the cards have been stacked against the ordinary black people living in that country. Who do they have to stand by them? The police, the judiciary, who? I am amazed that the country hasn’t seen a complete breakdown in black communities……..its not over yet!

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:31 AM

    @ silver fox, It’s the other way around.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States

    Cops rarely loose their lives from the hands of criminals, they sadly loose their loves through incompetence and accidents so please stop trying to deflect the issue and stop making the police look like victims when there is over whelming evidence to suggest otherwise.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:32 AM

    *lives

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    Dec 5th 2014, 10:34 AM

    Nasty but this is turning into a major event now for leftwing drama queens to get onto the telly. Until Israel starts up again.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 12:16 PM

    I wonder if a white kid was shot by a black cop in Ferguson would the American police be getting this much attention!! I don’t think so!!

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    Dec 5th 2014, 1:42 PM

    What’s the difference between ‘ Death by chokehold’ and ‘being choked to death’ ? Why not call it what it is ? Murder. Anyone who sees this video of this unfortunate man being murdered by a policeman in broad day light in New York and then euphemistically refers to the use of a ‘chokehold ‘ seeks to exonerate this sadistic cop. The man was black, he had his arms raised, did nothing but talk and was set upon by five thugs in uniform, one of whom ignored the dying man’s pleas for mercy, and ultimately choked him to death. It was a deliberate, racist killing. These police are latter day Klu Kluks Clan in everything but the uniform.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 8:38 PM

    How do we even begin to deal with the outrage of over 1,000 citizens being executed in the streets each year without trial? This is the number of police shootings estimated by press compilations since the government and law enforcement don’t even track the real figure. When 84% of surveyed officers admit to witnessing and not reporting excessive use of force, the entire system is corrupt. You can’t call these murders isolated incidences anymore. This brand of pig’s head soup is bitter to swallow at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2014/12/pigs-head-soup-outrage-of-justifiable.html where we’re burning it down.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:07 AM

    He’ll be comin down the chimney, down.

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    Dec 5th 2014, 9:17 PM
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