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JUSTICE CATHERINE MCGUINNESS has said she was once asked to run for the Áras an Uachtaráin, but she said she wasn’t interested.
Speaking to Miriam O’Callaghan on her radio programme on RTÉ, McGuinness, a former Supreme Court judge, said she was approached to run for the presidency.
McGuinness confirmed that she had been approached in the past, but said that she really didn’t want to run at the time.
Right person for the job
“… Other people at the time said don’t do that, you are important where you are. I didn’t feel that it was or I was the right person for that.”
She said she felt she had a lot to do as it was and stated that she never regretted her decision of turning it down.
McGuinness has been a widow since the death of her husband Proinsias Mac Aonghusa in September 2003. She said he fully supported her decision at the time.
Speaking about the job of being president, she said she didn’t think it was suited to her:
… it is a job where you really have to settle down to the fact you have to be really nice and polite to everybody… you’re not being able to say what you think…
However, she said that President Michael D Higgins tries his level best “to say what he thinks and succeeds very well at it”.
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I sent Revenues letter back to them with money inside and a nice hand written letter that went “Obviously our valuations slightly differ, but for now please accept this kind gesture of €5 against the cost of your next lunch as you will be waiting a f***ing while”
Should of sent them a promissory note instead.
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I would imagine that if tomorrow Enda said he was going to instruct revenue to take 25% of depositer’s money from their accounts the reaction of the Irish would be, well, obviously to stare blankly in to space in a kind of homer Simpson fashion!!
It is great how the grounds of mansions are not included is the valuation. So Reilly does not have to pay for the 150 acres manicured gardens and lake. Nice one Dr James “The Stroke” Reilly with your 13 bedroom Mansion . OK for some.
Did you not know they look after their own yawn yawn
Technically not his mansion any more Michael, he signed it over to his wife. I’ve not once had a discussion with my wife about signing over our house to her, but then I’ve never made it to Stubbs Gazette either. Wonder if there’s a connection?
Remember the sheep that are paying their Fine Gale Home tax now, Its due in full for next year on 1.1. 2014.
I am Not paying a tax on my home.
7000 Doormats!
Why do u call em doormats?
Probably because they’re giving their money to Anglo and other banks. In a week where Bankers have had their bonuses upped we get these 7,000 morons all too willing to pay them!
If only all the people stood shoulder to shoulder and said NO
It’s wrong to start insulting those who pay. You don’t know anyones individual circumstances. I’d imagine there are genuinely people who are willing to pay,people who can more than afford it and people who are scared of the reprocussions if they don’t.
If we all said no how could you be afraid, strength in solidarity and all that.
I can see the anti house hold charge brigade our out today. Well sorry lads that damp squib of a campaign didnt exactly ignite the next revolution and so far damp squib campaign number two is as wet as the weather, people will pay, people will comply, people will moan. This is ireland,this is the way it goes here. Roll on the vitroil!
Vitriol!
5,100 exempt doormats as well I suppose.
TINA – there is no alternative is it marcoop?
stop with your “this is Ireland ” nonsense. We have a proud tradition of resisting injustice here…. it just takes us a while to cop on to the fact we’re being fooked over ;-)
I wouldn’t call them all doormats, its just some folk are really scared of the consequences, heard an interview with an elderly lady on the radio during the week, she has paid it already, she didn’t want to pay but said she feared the consequences. So the governments scare tactics will work on some.
The fu*kers will have to work hard to get their hands on my cash.
How longs a while? About 100 years? Ok call me when yiz are ready coz i’ve a home to run and mouths to feed and bills to pay so if you think i’m going to invite penalties into my home because of the false stance of others like i did with the poxy anti household charge campaign then i wont hold my breath. Good luck! I’ll be cheering yiz on when i get a break some day!
It’s the people that throw around insults such as “doormats” that wouldn’t get their lazy arses off the sofa when it comes to go out and protest and do something about that!
Or maybe some people pay their taxes because they accept the rule of law and what a democratically elected government and legislature has passed?
Or maybe it’s because they realise the country is broke and there’s no choice but to increase taxes?
Jesus the pro rape of the country brigade is out in force today.
Nice terminology there leonard. I’d enter into debate with you but i’ve a feeling judging by your ‘i’d quit my job just so i dont pay taxes’ jibe up top that you arent going to come up with any form of middle ground or compromise. Each to their own, good luck.
Id debate the life and soul out of you lad. Try me… I double dare you…
Marcocop – Ireland is one step away from extremely violent action and protest. It is inevitable, given the economic and financial terrorism being perpetrated.
Whats that? oh, you want a debate off? well go ahead kimosabe, you aint got nothin, i got TINA, what you got? huh? this is your way of going about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJtaEs4Lho
Eamonn, I know 3 people who’ve set up successful businesses in the last 3 years, 2 of which are opening their second shops and one of them has gone international. Maybe you should meet the people who are fighting against everything by doing something for themselves, if you want to protest against something then i suggest you use your brain instead of violence.
Marcocop – is your brain in sync with your fingers? Did I sat I was going to protest. No. But I really fear for this country. And don’t proceed to lecture me about business. Our own son did so in 2010.
Eamonn, i apoligise, i jumped the gun. I’m not lecturing, rather i’m just trying to introduce some form of alternative to the chest beating and threats going on here(thats not aimed at you btw). I fear for my own kids future but i’d be damned if i’m going to hand them any debt which i refused to pay for when i was in a position to do so. We’re in a unique historical situation here, the last thing i want to see are riots.
Thanks Marco. But I really think it is inevitable. The politicians are so out of touch they don’t realise it. They think they can tax their way out of this. Which they can’t. And it will be something very trivial which will trigger it.
The Property register website values our house in the 150 to 200k bracket.
The letter they sent us vales it in the 200 to 250 bracket.
The Property sales register show 2 houses sold in the last 18 months in our estate. 130k and 140k.
How the same people come up with 2 different values for our house, neither of which reflect reality?
Dont know.
Why do ye care? I didn’t look up the value of mine on their site. The only way they will get their blood money from me is when they take it from my wages. Then i just might quit my job to really fcuk their sh*t up :-D
And then what?
They did not value your house. they gave you an average rang of values for different types of property in your area.
Your comment indicates that you have a good idea of what your property is worth, so use that figure. Again, as you have arrived at that number logically and honestly the Revenue will accept your assessment without question.
Yeah they’ll accept your valuation…
For now…
They just want people to get afraid and sign up for it. Stick to your guns let them come find you and take it from your wages.
Can’t understand how people willingly hand there money over without so much as a struggle.
Then ill stop paying taxes. And you lads will be paying me for my dole medical cards etc. Ill screw yous the way you screwed me. :-D
So value it at 130k if your filling it in and send it back you have proof as to the value of houses where you live.
The high valuation is to get you to fill it in because if you don’t they will use there estimate.
So value it at the lower bracket with evidence. Thats then fixed for 3 yrs. At most your house will be in the next bracket in 2015. Is it worth a full tax audit not paying?
This way sheep ->
Slaves.
7000 morons. Come find me if you want your cough cough “property tax”.
I won’t be making it easy for you revenue.
Unfortunately in Ireland people like to give out and kick up and moan that they will not pay,but they do in the end.government knows this.
Theses people have signed themselves up for a year on year increase in their property charge.
And many more will follow.
Idiots
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Even if you have already paid it.
My revenue letter put my house in the band for three times more than I paid for it 18 months ago. There are no houses in my area worth that amount so how could they have got the valuation guidelines so wrong ?
Because they are trying to scare you.Jesus do ye not see the game they are playing.
Don’t mind them
Vote direct democracy ireland next time. If they don’t stick to what they promise then they can immediately be sacked. Fg, ff, labour and the greens have all made a complete mess and rewarded themselves handsomely with huge pensions for the privilege & Sinn Fein are not much better! Give DDI a chance!
You’re spot on Aisling!
I intend to vote DDI and SF come the next election.
I’m voting for Big Ben!
Direct Democracy all the way .
roll on the election …….time to put labour and finegeal back inroads the wilderness
Couldn’t agree more with you. In 1994 kenny stated that taxing someone home was immoral. The only problem is who are we going to them with. Fianna Fail I don’t think so.
To be replaced by whom exactly? Incompetant and corrupt Fianna Fáil or ex-terrorists Sinn Fein?
Ex-terrorists? What about the financial terrorists in FG/Lab?
Most political parties in the Twenty-Six county state has its roots in the IRA or OIRA – except the Greens but who takes them seriously anyway
I always find it odd how SF are constantly called “ex-terrorists” yet the likes of Eamon Gilmour and Pat Rabitte’s pasts with the Stickies is completely underplayed
wouldn’t have anything to do with their pals in RTÉ or other sections of the media now would it?
“ex-terrorists” – such a bullshit argument
Your moral compass is way off if you think there is any comparison between killing people and attempting to correct somebody else’s hopeless mess.
Who’s talking about morals?
What I’m saying is that the FG argument (and the one you are using) of trying to obscure every point SF make or even like you trying to prop up every decision FG make with the rationale of ‘the Shinners are against the Home Tax. Shinners bad. Home tax good” is complete rubbish
That fact cannot be repeated often enough. He is a blatant opportunist. As the American Indians would so beautifully put it ” He speaks with forked tongue “.
What about the constant barbs from rabbit to S.F. about them being happy to have property tax in the north. Never once conceding to the fact that they actually receive numerous services for same, and is it not also means tested?
Can the Sinn Féin supporters please explain to me how their proposed wealth tax is any different from a property tax? Does it include a tax on peoples’ savings in banks, i.e. what Cyprus tried to do? That worked out well, didn’t it?
Not s S.F. supporter. My question was is property tax means tested in the north?
@paul , go read up on the full history of FG …….i think you,ll find murder there,
Don,t look to any parties past unless your going back to the very beginning .
Moral compass Paul? Is there any difference between shooting them and starving them?
Apples oranges
Stick to changing tyres.
Counting tyres Barry, not changing them. Big difference!
I’m sure there is a lot of “back slapping and cheers” among the ranks of kennys sleveens and gilmores turncoats.
It’s hard to believe how quick they are prepared to lie and decieve to keep their masters happy.
Attackthetax.com have a legal challenge to this. When you register anything you sign seal and deliver. These 7000 stupid people deserve what’s going to happen to them!!!
Its ridiciouls- what next. Are they getting these ideas from monopolys community chest..
For every house you own pay a fine…
Yes Selina. Punished for not costing the state a cent to house. And all for an illegal gambling debt. I think international events could overtake the whole thing anyway.
I love how it says that all we have to do is engage honestly and reasonable. I will engage about as honest as merkels lapdog enda has with us….
ABOLISH All Taxes on Family Homes: “It is morally wrong, unjust and unfair to tax a persons home” – Enda Kenny, 1994.
why pay it when our supposed leader says it morally wrong,, and that was in 94 when things were good, now we cant afford heat and food they are just trying to kill us,,, and diplomatic houses don’t pay,, bull shit,, i have an old council house burn coal for heat when it can be afforded which is not to. Cant we get this government out,, they are crippling this country,,
PAY NOTING!!!! IF WE ALL DONT PAY.. WHAT CAN THEY DO? WHAT SACRIFICE’S HAVE THE GOVERNMENT MADE? THEY SACRIFICED OUR NATION AND ITS FURUTE FOR UNSECURED BONDHOLDERS AND CORRUPT BANKS. WAKE UP PEOPLE AND STOP PAYING THESE GANGSTERS! I fell sorry for the people that gave their live’s for a better Ireland, people laid down their live’s and starved themselve’s to death for us and yet we watch as our people starve, freeze and kill themselve’s over debt. THATS NOT OURS! And yet we fell responsible to pay these crook’s who sold us out and are living comfortably on a couple grand a week…
I feel sorry for whoever tried to teach you English.
Nice.
Damocles, yes I will need to ponder over your wise and profound insight.
I learned something from what Cian said, I admire his passion and his views make sense. It is a contribution to an important debate. Your’s , perhaps, is less of a contribution in substantive terms.
If a point’s worth making it’s worth making well.
If it’s not worth making, rant illiterately and incoherently.
Received the letter from Revenue aswell that im liable for Property Tax.. except im renting the place… does this mean that i own this apartment now :D My landlord is going to be so happy… :)
stand united for a change and let fg/lb know we are paying no more towards the sins of the wealthy.
The single biggest crisis facing Ireland is the vastly under estimated and under reported mortgage arrears crisis. The mortgage arrears crisis has the real potential to collapse the Irish banks.
But just in case the mortgage arrears crisis might not collapse the Irish Banks, the Government imposes a property tax which will have the effect of adding about an extra month of mortgage arrears in many cases. Deferral is not a solution.
If every mortgagor wrote to their lending institution withholding one months mortgage repayment because of the property tax payment, it would be an effective form of civic protest.
The Property register website values our house in the 150 to 200k bracket.
The letter they sent us values it in the 200 to 250 bracket.
The Property sales register show 2 houses sold in the last 18 months in our estate. 130k and 140k.
How the same people come up with 2 different values for our house, neither of which reflect reality?
Still dont know.
I happen to agree with the concept of a means tested property tax, properly implemented, which has maximum and differentiated impact on trophy houses owned by high income earners and exempts modest homes owned and occupied by low income earners. It is the design and implementation of this property tax which is defective and unfair because its is not progressive and it impacts disproportionately on those on lower incomes. To understand this, you have to do a property value and household income matrix.
Introducing a property tax at a time of high unemployment, declining income, increasing mortgage impairments and increasing household expenses is clearly an act of economic madness and of political desperation.
Cyprus is a lesson on how the crisis is unfolding.
The Government feels the need to skin us alive to shore up the public finances. Will it succeed? It may succeed in its collection targets but it won’t stave off the looming disaster of loss of confidence in the banking system and the second shockwave to the Irish Banks caused by the black hole of massive mortgage impairments.
That reminds me … another weekend task almost ticked off. Where’s my wallet?
I own my house. Paid for over 30 yrs of hard graft . I’m now unemployed.
My neighbours rent their house. Both are working. One a teacher, the other a full time fireman.
I will have to pay the household tax from my meagre savings . My neighbours will not .
Fair?
Your being divided by spin.
And yes they will have to pay.
People who rent do have to it.
Not directly! Unlike the council taxes in the UK this levied in the owner, not the occupier. They may end up funding it indirectly through increases in rent, bit their landlord is the person who is liable for it.
Do you have to pay it if you live in a caravan in the back yard of your.grannys gaff?
No.
Ya wacker. Apparently caravans hit hard on this tax. €2500 flat rate per caravan regardless of size. All caravan liabilities must be paid by 31/03. Otherwise they will confiscate it and you.
Great way of fighting back folks … Paying for nothing , still paying bin charges , next year water taxes … Local services my arse …. You may as well post it to fingers and fitzer to see if they need to buy anything else … Kenny and your clowns – u have sold us out and History will say nothing … Cc David Higgins …. Do not reply to this ….
7,000 people blow there load when they paid ….its a FG/German comfest
Even if the value of your property is worth nothing you still have no escape. I wonder how much tax they impose if you move to a mobile home.
People who have paid it, begrudgingly yes, but they will get their say at the next election. Bye Bye FG, Bye Bye Labour, and it will be hello SF or worse FF
Taxing a person’s home is immoral. I’m so pi55ed-off with Fine Gael & Labour AND Fianna Fail that I might use that as my slogan to get elected.
Compliance,obedience, orthodoxy, conservatism, complacency and not rocking the boat are the qualities we value in Ireland.
If the Cypriot crisis were happening in Ireland, there would be a mild murmur of slight disagreement.
In Ireland we hear and obey our domestic and international masters.
Kneel, you serfs,
Pay it and come the next election have your say then, because its not worth the frustration.
@Giz Bayertz no Giz it’s the people who throw around insults like “doormats” that have been protesting whilst these “doormats” done nothing!
Have you Jessica?
They should call the Property Tax the solidarity tax. The people need to show their solidarity with the Government Ministers and senior civil servants. We must fund their very modest subsistence level pensions as a reward for how well they have managed the Nation.
7000 householders are not just FG/LAB stooges but should have their collective ability to vote in future elections removed. These idiots have shown to be an extension of the gutless manure that have made up the last and present governments.Also shown total disregard for fellow citizens who will refuse to comply with such tactics.
So I had 10,204 in tax, prsi and USC +10800 mortgage last year so if I don’t work or pay my mortgage any more I wont have to pay there housing charge and they will not get 21000 euro next year sounds like a good deal to me.
Was in the Square in Tallaght earlier and was delighted to see people signing postcards of disgust to Pat Rabite . I filled out one for each of my family including the kids as they are the ones who will be amazed that we didn’t stand up for ourselves if we let this go through.
I will also be at the rally at the Garden of remembrance on the 13th of April
Local Property Tax Petition site says:-
1. Don’t pay Online
2. Don’t pay in Full
3. Don’t pay by Direct Debit
4. Don’t pay by Deduction from Income (Wages, Salary, Pension, Welfare)
5. Don’t pay in Cash
6. Don’t pay by Partial Deferral
7. PAY BY CHEQUE in 12 monthly installments, by post, directly to the Revenue office.
Also they say you don’t have to fill in the form ………write a letter or note ….. saying you are paying under duress!
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“A declaration is not invalid for want of form”
… you are not restricted by their FORM ( .. you can make a declaration in any way you wish.)
… you are not restricted by their “preferred” method of payment. ( pay as you consider appropriate for your circumstances.)
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