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Most Irish people say they won't be able to buy a house next year

This comes after the closure of the Central Bank’s consultation process on new mortgage restrictions.

SEVEN OUT OF 10 Irish people feel that new 20% mortgage deposit rule would be too restrictive.

The findings, which comes from a poll by Red C on behalf of the Society of Chartered Surveyors Ireland, shows that the majority of people feel that the new measures are too restrictive for them to be able to afford property.

Only 15% of those asked felt they would be in a position to stump up one fifth of a houses cost as a deposit.

In the survey, which asked 1,000 people, 20% said they would need to source some of the deposit through other lending sources.

Consultation process 

The Central Bank’s consultation process on changes to mortgage-lending regulation has now closed.

During the process, 110 individuals and 47 institutions made submissions.

In the new document today the bank state they “do not wish to regulate or directly control housing prices.”

Consultation paper CP87 looks into lending restrictions on house buyers that are set to be introduced next year, and will include loan-to-value (LTV) ratios.

LTV ratios refer to loans as a percentage of the total of the asset purchased.

Under the new regulations, individuals will be required to raise 20% of a houses value as a deposit, and will only be permitted to borrow up to three-and-a-half times their income.

This would be applied for those trying to buy private dwelling homes – and exclusions would be made in 20% of cases.

For properties being bought as buy-to-lets, borrowers will be restricted to borrowing 70% of a property’s value.

Department of Finance 

In its submission, the Department of Finance has argued that the rules applied in Ireland should differ from those applied internationally – as the Irish system is “novel”.

On account of this, it argues that a more graduated approach would be appropriate in the Irish market.

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The Department points to the Netherlands and Norway as two countries where LTV ratios were introduced at a lower level and gradually increased.

On the appropriateness of the measures, the Central Bank go on to say that the LTV ratios would not afford “very much protection to borrowers” and could lead to bigger loans.

Questions 

The Central Bank has now issued a document detailing some answers to concerns individuals may have about the new rules.

In these, the Bank outlines that the main purpose of the new measures is to, “enhance resilience of the banking and household sectors to financial shocks and housing market developments”, and that the measures were being introduced now to contribute to “a stable and well-functioning mortgage lending market”.

Concerns 

There have been concerns that the introduction of the new regulation will make it more difficult for those trying to get onto the property ladder.

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The measures have been criticised by Ulster Bank Chief Executive, Jim Brown, who has said that under the new rules two-thirds of home buyers this year would not have qualified for mortgages.

A firm date has not been set for the introduction of the regulations, although the Bank hopes they will come into effect in the early part of next year.

Read: House prices in Ireland are rising faster than anywhere else in the world

Also: Families turning to moneylenders charging up to 200% interest ahead of Christmas

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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:36 PM

    South Africa is taking a similar path…

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:16 PM

    @Mazza86: is? Already happening, riots on the streets a couple of weeks back.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:19 PM

    Will our leftist president send his condolences I wonder.

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    Mute Terry McClatchey
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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:40 PM

    At that time, Mugabe was seen as similar to Nelson Mandela. Their paths diverged later.

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    Mute The long walk home☘️
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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:12 PM

    @Terry McClatchey: in the 80′s Charlie Haughey was regarded as a respected statesman and Thatcher had among her pals Pinochet.

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    Mute CBD HeavenSent
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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:30 PM

    The Blueshirts still fall over themselves when their British royalty steps foot on our nation. Watching the likes of Bruton and Kenny creaming themselves is truly sickening.

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    Mute Clifford Brennan
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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:37 PM

    @CBD HeavenSent: Yes, normalising relations between our two countries is sickening. When McGuinness shook hands with the British Queen, and Adams shook hands with Prince Charles I’d say you must have fainted. Poor lad.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:40 PM

    @CBD HeavenSent:
    Is that what you took from this story??

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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:49 PM

    @Clifford Brennan: Those meetings were meaningful acts that built bridges and showed that the Brits had finally realised that the Oirish were their equals and should be finally treated as such.

    John Brutons meeting the royals “the greatest day of my life” was nothing more than a cap doffing kowtowing of a loyal West Brit subject to his superior. If he had royal ascent to kiss their arse I have no doubt he would have done it also.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:11 PM

    @CBD HeavenSent:
    Sorry to be the one to break it to you but he didn’t actually say that – it’s an urban myth:
    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/irishness-means-more-than-hating-england-37092068.html

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:22 PM

    @CBD HeavenSent: Your first mistake is thinking that McGuinness/Adams represented the Irish nation. They didn’t. Those handshakes represented the concluding act of the so called war. Not sure why you’ve (deliberately?) quoted a line Bruton never actually said, either. Maybe you need a lie down. :)

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:28 PM

    @Clifford Brennan: “not sure why you’ve quoted a line Bruton never actually said”

    He probably saw it on Facebook!!

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    Sep 6th 2019, 3:26 PM

    @The Great Unwashed: Now that you have set him straight, will CBD now, A. Admit his error. Or B. Completely ignore you and continue to spread that particular myth. Tough one to call, but I’m gonna guess A.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 4:33 PM

    @Tommy Roche:
    Don’t be putting any money it, that’s all I’ll say…
    ;-)

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    Sep 7th 2019, 7:47 AM

    @CBD HeavenSent: You’re an idiot. Has nothing to do with the Blue Shirts. Stay on the subject.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:01 PM

    Mugabe turned out to be corrupt and a thug in the end. However, there us one point about the land seizures that doesn’t get mentioned. Under the agreement that ended the war there, White farmers were to give up their lands and be compensated by the British and Zimbabwean governments (on a 50/50 basis) after 20 years. When the time came to impliment this the British /Tony Blair renaged on their side of the agreement. So Zimbabwe sized the land without compensation in retaliation.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:23 PM

    @Des Hanrahan:
    Partially true, but the agreement only applied by consent, ie. subsidies would be made available where farmers willingly wanted to sell their land – no farmer was under any obligation to sell up.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:45 PM

    @Des Hanrahan:
    Plenty of money was actually paid over – Blair only pulled the plug on the scheme when the allocated pot ran dry in the late 90s.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:43 PM

    It’s a blue shirt thing…

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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:56 PM

    @Willy: you do know that from the beginning Mugabe was a marxist in the Castro mould. He was praised by socialists everywhere. As usual it all ended in tears. And until very recently there were many a western comrade willing to write glowing articles about Mugabe and his legacy in the pages of hip marxist magazines.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:07 PM

    @Willy: Mugabe was a Marxist like your crowd.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:08 PM

    @Willy: devalera sent his condolences to the germans on the dimise off one Adolf Hitler on behalf of the Irish people. Ffg are one and same.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:35 PM

    Impressive chap but he was no Idid Amin. Now there was a guest worth having over for dinner!

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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:42 PM

    @thephantomshit:
    Not that different – birds of a feather.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:59 PM

    @thephantomshit: Over for dinner, but keep the kids out of sight.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 3:42 PM

    @The Great Unwashed: Agreed, both put in place by the Brits.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 4:40 PM

    @DaMoons:
    Wrong on both counts, but hey, why let small details like facts get in the way of a good rant eh?

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    Sep 6th 2019, 2:33 PM

    This says it all about Garrett FitzGerald’s judgement, or lack thereof.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 3:53 PM

    @J. Reid: well, you wouldn’t remember this, but Mugabe managed to fool a lot of people into believing he was the real deal.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 7:58 PM

    @Chin Feeyin: a lot of people fooled Garrett Fitzgerald

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    Sep 6th 2019, 5:43 PM

    Good riddance! He destroyed the *breadbasket of Africa * by greed. Anyone check his Swiss bank accounts?

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    Sep 7th 2019, 7:22 AM

    @Paula Mackie Senior: breadbasket of Africa? For the white minority in power. The same way Ireland was the breadbasket of the British empire in the 1840s.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 3:25 PM

    We have a long history of supporting clowns, Haughey, Bertie, Cowan, Kenny.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 4:24 PM

    Wonder if we will see a similar article in 20 years time about Mahmoud Abbas

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    Sep 6th 2019, 3:56 PM

    That goes to show just how thick Brian Lenihan was!

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    Sep 6th 2019, 7:59 PM

    @Desmond Lyons: He was far from thick

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    Sep 6th 2019, 9:34 PM

    One Irish politician/former politician, Conor Cruise O’Brien, was not impressed in the late 1970s by Robert Mugabe. After a British television discussion in 1979 Mugabe privately told O’Brien that he was not a friend of the struggle against colonialism and O’Brien replied that after colonialism it was important for African nationalists to abide by democratic politics. We now know – we knew in the early 1980s – that Mugabe instigated the police murders of thousands of anti-government people in Matabeleland.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 3:10 PM

    Yeah but he was a dictator that fooled everyone to assert control over he own country and people.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 1:54 PM

    The white farmers bred Rhodeshian Ridgebacks to dislike/attack dark skinned people – guess it wasn’t enough to stop the “land reforms’

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    Sep 6th 2019, 5:14 PM

    “One man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist ”
    Springs to mind

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    Sep 7th 2019, 7:26 AM

    @John Walsh: the founder of Zimbabwe and a hero to his people. Single-handedly irradicated the apartheid, imperialist system the Brits had implemented. Unfortunately our media comes from the West.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 3:51 PM

    Acceptable in the 2010s: Ireland once regarded Trump as a respected statesman and honoured guest

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    Sep 6th 2019, 9:06 PM

    We are very lucky the Brits paid for land redistribution, pity they did not do the same in Rhodesia/ZImbabwe

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    Sep 7th 2019, 12:16 AM

    @paul kelly:
    They did for almost 20 years following Zimbabwe’s independence.

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    Sep 6th 2019, 3:31 PM

    Rot in Hell

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    Sep 7th 2019, 12:51 PM

    Under a FG government at the time???

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