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Katherine Zappone and Ann Louise Gilligan outside the High Court in 2006. Photocall Ireland archive

The KAL case kickstarted a decade of debate on marriage equality

Katherine Zappone and Ann Louise Gilligan made global headlines when they tried to have their Canadian marriage recognised by the Irish State.

THE MARRIAGE EQUALITY referendum due next spring will be – and already is – a huge font of debate.

To give context to how the country has arrived at this legislative watershed, journalist Una Mullally has compiled a chronology of events which led to this point, through the testimony of those who lived through them.

In the Name of Love: The Movement for Marriage Equality in Ireland is published by The History Press Ireland.

While the country will be asked to vote in 2015 on whether marriage rights should be extended to same-sex couples, one couple was fighting their corner on that very subject over a decade ago.

The following extracts reflect on the so-called KAL case – an action pursued by Katherine Zappone, now a senator, and Ann Louise Gilligan to have their Canadian marriage recognised for the filing of a joint tax return in Ireland.

The High Court gave them leave to pursue their claim in 2004, and it was appealed to the Supreme Court in 2007.

In 2012, the Supreme Court returned their case to the High Court, where this time they were challenging the constitutionality of the Civil Registration Act 2004 – the law that has in its language, the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman.

In this extract, co-founder of Marriage Equality Gráinne Healy, the former head of the Equality Authority Niall Crowley, and the director of UCD’s Women’s Studies Centre Katherine O’Donnell recall first hearing that Ann Louise and Katherine were pursuing their case:

GRÁINNE HEALY:  Two things. One, I thought, ‘Jaysus, aren’t they very brave?’ – in Ireland, you know – to be putting themselves in for what was definitely going to be a trial by fire, and just all of the prurient interest that there would be in these two well-known, very middle-class, middle-aged women coming out as lesbians and the whole interest in that.

I remember thinking, ‘Jaysus, I hope they’ve thought this through’, concerned about them, really, and then thinking, ‘Well, if they’re going to do that, the rest of us are going to have to get behind them and support them. They’re putting themselves personally out there.’ That was the evening I decided, ‘Ok, whatever this case requires’, and that for me was the sparking point – I need to get behind this.

NIALL CROWLEY: I thought it was hugely important on the same basis that people taking the anti-discrimination cases was very important.

This was bigger even, and riskier in terms of the cost and scale of it, and the courts that they were moving through in relation to it – the High Court – and so it was a very courageous move, a very strategic move, a very well-thought-out move, a very carefully planned move. It was very impressive in every way.

KATHERINE O’DONNELL: They were ideal poster girls, which is very important when you’re going for a legal case. So they were perfect in that regard, and they were able to speak to Middle Ireland. They were able to speak in quite religious language as well, and spiritual language, and they’ve been together a very long time.

They had led exemplary, good lives, so they were perfect as a test-case couple and they were robust and strong enough to carry the emotional demands, which are really significant in taking that kind of case. They were ideal.

Just the tax case thing, I could never get very excited about that. I think it would have been more helpful to have taken on another kind of case.

When the women came before the High Court in 2004 to seek permission for the case to go ahead:

Katherine Zappone: So I’m up in my study phoning a few people still to let them know this is about to happen, because we wanted to make sure we told all of our close friends so they didn’t just hear it in the news.

We weren’t going to court until later in the afternoon. And I’m up there and all of a sudden Ann Louise runs up to me and says, ‘It’s breaking news this morning that there is a lesbian couple that is taking a case for their partnership.’ But they didn’t name us.

Ann Louise Gilligan: I’m chairing a State board at this time. So I have to ring the minister and say, ‘Look, this is breaking. We didn’t think it would have broken. We thought you better know.’ … It broke in sixty-seven countries.

Katherine Zappone: We met our solicitor and we were literally going into the courtroom to seek permission to actually run the case. As we went to the courthouse, there were tonnes of photographers because they wanted to know who the couple was.

Ann Louise Gilligan: I remember Mary Wilson sitting at the table on the way in.

Katherine Zappone: Then word started to go out. We get upstairs, we wait to go in, we met sisters, relatives of friends of ours who are lawyers, and they saw us and they said, ‘Oh, it’s you!’ And then we get into the courtroom. It’s a packed courtroom, and this is a day where a judge comes in and he’s just listening to one case after another and looking for permission. And it’s usually about ten minutes. That’s what Ger Hogan said to us, ‘You’ll be in and out.’ There’s a couple of cases before us saying, ‘Yes, you’ve got permission.’

Just before one o’clock or lunchtime, Ger Hogan stands up and he says something to the effect of, ‘Your Honour,  I’m here to outline the reasons why we’re seeking permission for a recognition for my clients, who are a same-sex couple, of their Canadian marriage.’

The judge was like this kind of, ‘Uhhh?’ He just looks up – ‘WHAT?’

Ann Louise Gilligan: ‘Clear the courtroom!’

In the course of the actual case, which came before the High Court on 3 October 2006, it became clear that no matter the outcome, this would be a case to spark the ongoing debate about marriage equality in Ireland.

Lesbian couple begin an action so that their Canadian-registered marriage is recognised in Ireland Zappone and Gilligan launching their case in 2006. Niall Carson / PA Archive/Press Association Images Niall Carson / PA Archive/Press Association Images / PA Archive/Press Association Images

Ivana Bacik: It was very exciting. It was a case that I was really enthusiastic, really passionate about. Katherine and Ann Louise are brilliant people – I’m a huge admirer and fan of theirs. And so it was a great case, one of those cases where you feel ‘this is why I’m practising law’; to try and be involved in constitutional change.

I mean, I’d been involved in other constitutional cases before and since where you feel you’re making a difference, but a lot of my work was very much bread-and-butter criminal work.

Katherine Zappone: Our other Senior Counsel, Michael Collins, [along with Ger Hogan] again also did brilliantly and he was spectacular. I was crying after his first opening, and he said to me … ‘Katherine, there will be good days in court and there will be bad days.’ And there were several bad days.

The State, the two men who were against us, one of them also on the bench now – the Supreme Court – and the other one was Attorney General and was top senior counsel. It was a big fight. Every day there was a big report coming out of it, and one of the days – the first day it broke, I think – it was probably Kathy Sheridan who wrote a piece and it was, ‘Oh, love is in the air’, and all this kind of stuff.

Kathy Sheridan: I remember going down to the High Court on the day. Now, I’ve covered many a case in the High Court and what struck me was that a lot of journalists turned up late. I’m generally not late for cases.

What they [the plaintiffs] had done was the standing on the steps, and had been giving pre-court appearance interviews and having their picture taken.

I always remember their good humour and serene authority. They came back and recreated their entrance for the media, gave the interviews.

To me there was something about these women that was so warm and serene. This country has a terribly divisive history on these social agendas, and these two women were the furthest thing from divisive. As a journalist, you’re treated as the scum of the earth in the High Court. No one will talk to you or give you documents or anything. But here were the plaintiffs, very happy to discuss it all with us in a grown-up fashion.

Ann Louise Gilligan: As the next week unfolded, I could see – not that I could agree with it – but I could absolutely see what was happening, which was: ‘Society isn’t ready. The definitional argument is what people understand to be marriage. Marriage is about complementarity. Marriage is about children.’ All of which, of course, is false.

I could have stood myself and given the counter-argument to every single point, but I could see the judge above, and I just had that sinking feeling. You know, ‘I think the people are probably ready, but I don’t think the legal system is.’ That’s what I was thinking…

My experience in that second week in the court is the lack of attention to the fact that the personal is legal and the legal is personal. And at times I felt there was such a lack of attention to the personal implications for Katherine and I of some of what was being said.

Note: This is an abridged extract from Chapter 3, The KAL Judgement, from In The Name of Love: The Movement for Marriage Equality in Ireland by Una Mullally.

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    Mute Sheldon Sheridan
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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:29 PM

    Over 10 years of marriage equality in Canada and the country is still in one piece?…. Radical idea here but could it be that marriage equality doesn’t actually effect anyone or anything other than the couples who opt for it??

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    Mute Ailbhe O'Nolan
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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:30 PM

    Sheldon! Surely not. I’ve heard rumours the sky is propped up by sticks

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:34 PM

    I have heard that Canada is fabulous though…

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:44 PM

    Terrific country.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:55 PM

    The best countries have marriage equality.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:09 PM

    Ah Una, the poster girl for the liberals, and the silencing of all who dare disagree with her. Can’t say I wish the book well.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:21 PM

    Well at least now we have the bigot for balance. The BAI will be delighted.

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    Mute Paddy Scully
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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:24 PM

    It didn’t take long to get labelled a bigot, such are the ways today’s liberals.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:28 PM

    Spot on David. Not flippant labelling but very accurate. Una is more Christian than Paddy could ever wish to be……ironic

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:29 PM

    I’m not sure that Una would appreciate been labelled like that.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:37 PM

    It’s more a reflection on the practacing christian than the intelligent, compasdionate juxtaposition that is Una…….

    Love how ya pounced on this article first. Sitting it wait to spread the hate! Good man Paddy

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:42 PM

    Wow, it took Paddy Scully less then ten minutes to comment on a LBGT story. It looks like someone is obsessed.
    Eleven hours later and still no comment on this story.
    http://jrnl.ie/1830565
    A spokesperson for catholic comment avoiding making a comment on something that actually involves the church. Ironically it’s a report about the catholic church turning a blind eye to child abuse.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:53 PM

    I do believe that the proposed changes to the constitution, which places the desires of adults above the just expectations of children to have a mother and a father; is unjust, and requires vigilance.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 9:09 PM

    And what about Catholics comment on Catholic crimes and abuse? Nothing??? Thought not. You’re hypocrisy is foing your cause an injustice. Keep going Paddy, thanks for your help

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    Dec 12th 2014, 9:12 PM

    Desires of the adult above children’s rights? So would you force couples to stay together irrespective of their own or their children’s safety so? I was reared with 2 sisters and my brother by our mother because my father was emotionally incapable of being a dad. Anyone can be a father or a mother but it takes someone very special to be a mum or a dad.
    Why should two people who love each other be treated any differently to any other?
    Myself and my siblings are not miscreants, truants or criminals because we were reared brilliantly and nobody can condemn us for the way we have turned out.
    The religious belief the infuses such intolerance is not spiritual nor Christian in its indoctrination. It’s purely bigotry, ignorance and small mindless. Good day to you.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 9:21 PM

    Well said Patrick!

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    Mute Brian O'Sullivan
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    Dec 12th 2014, 9:28 PM

    Paddy, what do the “expectations of children to have a mother and a father” have to do with marriage? Voting no next year won’t stop gay couples raising kids. It’ll just stop MARRIED gay couples raising kids.

    If marriage is child-centred, then logically you must vote yes to make sure ALL children have the opportunity to be raised by a married couple. Anyone espousing a no vote for “the sake of the children” is hypocritical at best and flat out lying at worst.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 9:53 PM

    @ Patrick O’Farrell
    I see no relationship between, deliberately depriving a child of their mother or father as would occur in the proposed redefined marriage, and, “forcing couples to stay together irrespective of their own or their children’s safety”. Such deliberate misdirection is only used to confuse the common sense understandind, that children do best with their biological mother and father, in a good relationship. I would not comment on your mum or dad, but at least you got to know them. Who may I ask condemned you. I have only chosen to defend marriage, and the widely accepted benefits of motherhood and fatherhood. The fact that some people are incapable of fulfilling there roles and responsibilities, does not excuse deliberately redefining marriage to exclude one or the other.
    @ Brian O’Sullivan
    It’s true Brian, gay couples may well choose to create children, who they know will never receive the love of a mother (or father). Indeed the same happens with many heterosexuals. But that dosent make it just, or correct, and it amounts to an adult decision to deprive one’s own child. The state should certainly not redefine marriage to give such adult decisions a veneer of respectability.
    Marriage, and the ensuing family, is the bedrock of society; and we mess with it at our peril.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:00 PM

    @ paddy Scully. There’s obviously no reasoning with zealots like you.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:05 PM

    @ Patrick O’Farrell
    It’s true Patrick, people have a big difficulty in coming up with “reasons” for redefining marriage. This movement to redefine marriage relies exclusively on emotion.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:08 PM

    I assume the sky has fallen in and society has collapsed in Canada, in the Netherlands, in Spain, in Denmark, in New Zealand, in Uraguay, in the UK….. In all the 31 states of the US that have granted marriage equality. Oh look no it hasnt…….

    Paddy obviously does not like the evidence of the last decade indicating that the world doesnt end when countries approve marriage equality.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:11 PM

    It’s obviously incorrectly defined at the moment. The catholic definition is totally out of sync with the reality of society and world to. Perhaps the church and the onanistic Ionaists need to reconsider their overly forcefully held and strident and ignorant ideas.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:17 PM

    What is love so if it’s not an emotion? Paddy Scully in the words of Anne Robinson, “you are the weakest link, goodbye.”

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    Mute Ailbhe O'Nolan
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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:25 PM

    Arguments for marriage is emotional. Yes. Would you prefer if people didn’t enter into it with any emotions and instead did so purely for tax reasons? Then had kids and split.

    Paddy is stuck between a rock and a hard place. It shouldn’t be emotional but it should. It’s complicated guys. It’s all about kids but it’s not. If in doubt, refer to the Westborough Baptists….

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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:33 PM

    There are infinitely more reasons for marriage equality than against.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:35 PM

    @ Patrick O’Farrell
    Love is indeed an emotion, as well as other things. But love never was a requirement for marriage. No registrar asks a couple if they love each other. The 65% of arranged marriages worldwide, are no less valid because love was not present at the ceremony. Indeed arranged marriages worldwide have proven to be much more successful than the western ideal, with a much lower divorce rate.
    Love is indeed a great gift, but I for one would not dare suggest to my friend, who has an arranged marriage, that he does not now greatly love his wife.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:28 PM

    Well done Una. History will be made next year and happiness for many will soon follow!

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    Dec 12th 2014, 9:25 PM

    Yes, the referendum will be defeated be all right-thinking people.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 9:26 PM

    Far right thinking?

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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:16 PM

    As long as people keep labelling others as gay or lesbian or use words like gay marriage this conflict will never really be over.
    At the end of the day it is not about same sex or different sex marriage but just marriage whereby 2 people who love each other sign a contract.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 8:48 PM

    I read this during the week. A good, frank recount of how we’ve gotten this far. Well done to Una and everyone who contributed and participated.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:11 PM

    Kenny thought he was being trendy some what by appointing Kappone to the senate,but unfortunatley it did`nt work out too good,for him that is.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 9:41 PM

    And 10 years later Zappone started trouble in Jobstown by insisting Burton attend the graduation ceremony.

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    Dec 12th 2014, 10:45 PM
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