This isn’t the end of two terrorist attacks. It is the beginning of a war.

I disagree. The war has been going on since the publication of the Satanic Verses in 1988. We’re losing.

Paris was the wake up call, 9/11 should have been the wake up call.

He is equating being Jewish with being in favour of Isreali policy in Gaza.Ie. being Jewish means you don’t deserve the protection of the state you live in because of what other jews living in a seperate country may or may not be up to.Its like saying that british muslims dont deserve protection because of what ISIS are up to in Syria.Its a dumb a*s comment at best and anti semetic at worst.

How is it fair? It’s racist. Should we blame you if a Catholic in Poland murders in the name of their deity.

These people are English of Jewish faith as the french Jewish were exactly that french! !!! Nothing to do with Palestinians.

Racism against Jewish alive and well on the journal

@Praise Hope – what exactly did he say that was anti-semitic ???????

“Give it a rest ffs” – So, so sick on any criticism of Israel being labelled as ‘anti-semitic’.

Perhaps if the State of Israel stopped persecuting & murdering the Palestinians, the Jewish people of the world would sleep easier.

And before you call me ‘anti-semitic’… I couldn’t give a toss about which sky fairy you or anyone else prays to. I’ll call it as it is, murder is murder, whether its terrorism or state sponsor terrorism.

And considering gangs of Islamists have already marched through Jewish neigbourhoods parading ISIS flags it’s a fair precaution by the UK police.

So Ivan rather then condemn the threats and violence against innocent Jewish folk you’d rather focus on why they basically have it coming to them?

@Ivan.You dont think its a little odd to have the first comment on an article about protecting British people of the Jewish faith to be an attack on Isreali policy with regard to Gaza ? He might as well have just come out and said that no jewish person anywhere deserves protection because of the actions of a right wing jew government in Isreal.

I would be very concerned about the same fascist mentality that devastated GAZA taking over the European Police State,

Hamas have no hope in Europe. It’ll be fine frank.

Israel, the state, has stirred up ill feeling towards those of a Jewish faith.
Perhaps it should be called anti semitic behaviour.
They’re ok over there, a big wall to hide behind. The backlash will be against the easy targets.

It’s important to differentiate between the Jewish community and israel’s policies.
While a lot of us here don’t agree with israel’s policies it shouldn’t mean we are anti jewish. Same with every other religion.

Yes I’m very upset by the genocidal tactics of the Israeli government and their “defence” force.
However I’m also concerned for ordinary Jewish people who should be able to feel safe in a stable society like the UK. As I am for ordinary Muslims most of whom in no way subscribe to the lunacy we see from fundamentalists.

Little jim – speak for yourself.

@Mary & Joe.Well said.

Ironically, attacking Jews is likely to make them leave Europe.

Some may go to other countries where there are strong Jewish communicties – the US, Canada, Argentina, South Africa- but most will go to Israel.

The Israeli government will then allow settlement in the West Bank to create room.

So, if by some warped logic, attacking Jews is being pro-Palestinian, it’s likely to be counter-productive.

These are the Jews who didn’t want to move Israel. They are clearly not responsible for Israel’s actions.

Just asking ? World leaders seem to care about some more than others 2000 people killed by boko haram where is there rally?

@Eamonn Police in Britain are talking about protecting a community in Britain. They can only focus on their immediate job.

@Praise Hope, I don’t think Eamonn Mc Auley’s question was in any way anti-semitic, and certainly didn’t deserve the verbal abuse you have just given him. Could you please define anti-semitism?

Charles Rex_ Its would be the Child Killers I would be worried about.

So while the Jewish community is being protected the lack of policing will invite an attack on non Jewish people.

Im sure there’s enough police, intelligence probably points to an attack on the Jewish community so extra resources are diverted there.

Antrim
That’s an assumption.
The extra hatred on the Jewish people is because of the zi0nist occupation of Palestine. Innocent Jews and Palestinians are being killed for this reason.

There were pogroms of Jews in the Arab world long before Israel was created.

Sam Harris: Contemporary Muslim anti-Semitism is heavily indebted to its Christian counterpart. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a Russian anti-Semitic forgery that is the source of most conspiracy theories relating to the Jews, is now considered an authoritative text in the Arab-speaking world. A recent contribution to Al-Akhbar, one of Cairo’s mainstream newspapers, suggests that the problem of Muslim anti-Semitism is now deeper than any handshake in the White House Rose Garden can remedy: “Thanks to Hitler, of blessed memory, who on behalf of the Palestinians took revenge in advance, against the most vile criminals on the face of the Earth …. Although we do have a complaint against him, for his revenge was not enough .”

Glen, your first comment asked why the Jewish community deserved more police protection but your second comment says that there is more hatred towards them.
Once again can you please make up your mind.

You would wonder why that is,Antrim, wouldn’t you. I do.

Declan
My mind is made up
You are a like a shadow
Why is it you only reply to comments made by a handful of people on here yet never post anything otherwise.

Shane I reported you again. Are you going to follow me to every thread calling me a bigot?

What hatred about the Irish. Show me where I wrote these comments.

I have no problem with you reading news and sharing views, you came here though to a thread about Islamic attacks on Jews and started on about the British and how I was a sectarian bigot. Why do you constantly hassle me?

@antrim I only reply to your views and tell you what I think of them like you do with mine except all your comments are about nationalist and your hatred for us and if you can’t see that in tour comments then there is something wrong with you I don’t be coming on here to argue with you but your comments leave me no choice its like reading posts by members of the kkk about black people which I wouldn’t stand for either!

Tell me what I said about nationalists then instead of constantly making these allegations, where’s your evidence to back up your claims?

@antrim I could be here all day quoting you but it’s pointless tell me all week how many articles have you wrote in on slagging off sf and nationalist and how many people have called you a bigot or sectarian? And then wonder to yourself why would they do such a thing I don’t even know you as you said so why would I pick on you im not into this bullyboy tactics at all and I am not been unfair in my assessment of you based solely on your comments!

You have no evidence that’s why. You are talking nonsense. Give me one example of this sectarian bigotry and anti-Irishness you are talking about.

@antrim how about the other day we were talking about the irish people killed by the British and they were not ira and you said that it was ok because the british were trying to stabilise the area is that not sectarian or bigotry or anti irish you condone those killings and then hammer the ira is that not bigotry or sectarian or anti irish? Oh I forgot if its you its ok and for proof the lad tir pulled you on it gave you hard facts and you wouldn’t listen more bigotry!

I said the army were trying to stabilise NI which is correct. The paramilitaries were the ones doing most of the harm. I never said the army were perfect, they had their low points but in comparison to the paramilitaries they wernt that bad. Of course I hammer the IRA, I also hammer the UDA and the UVF too, are you aware that the UFF shot my uncle in 1988 and that the PIRA put a bomb under my dad’s car in 1990?

@antrim see there in lies the problem you think 1 was worse than the other I believe there both the same tit for tat eye for an eye which never works! I have never seen you hammer the loyalists! And how was I to know that happened to your family we both have established I don’t know you! None the less that is messed up on both counts no one should be shot and def not blown up its a bit understandable now where your views are coming from but you can’t blame us all for murdering lunatics on both sides I will stop with the bigotry stuff as long as you keep it to the murders and stop bringing the rest of us into it its not on not everyone in the south thinks like that especially in this day and age as for the british army they have highrr standards to live up to been a genuine army the killing of civilians no matter what is wrong agree?

Well British army killings were far less numerous than paramilitary killings, it was the army that defused the bomb that day under the car, that’s the difference you see, terrorists planted it and security forces defused it saving lives, they defused 100′s of other bombs too all over NI. I already said they had their low points but it wasn’t the policy of the security forces to go around murdering on a daily basis, that’s what the paramilitaries were doing, both sides too. Im convinced that if the security forces wernt here things would have been 10 times worse.

And I’m not blaming you for the bomb or for my uncle being shot, I do have a right to point my finger at the groups responsible though, that doesn’t make me a bigot in any way. If I start saying things about ordinary Catholics or nationalists then you can call me a bigot then, it won’t happen though because I’m not like that.

From 1969/1998 security forces killed around 350 people and lost around 1000.

Loyalists killed about 1000 people and lost about 150.

Republicans killed about 2000 people and lost about 400.

Them figures alone can tell all a person needs to know.

@Antrim. Of course everyone needs protection, but there were 17 victims.
4 of which were people of Jewish faith. How are they being singled out?
No offence but aren’t we all fair game to these lunatics and equally deserving of protection?

The attack on the magazine was indiscriminate, the attack on the Jews was planned, they didn’t accidentally stumble upon a Jewish store. We are all protected equally but if there was a known threat on a specific person or group then resources would be put against that threat.

@antrim fair enough if you slag us off ill say it but dont be reporting me without cause or a response so we can debate it! As for those figures I see you started in 68 or 69 what about the other 750 years do they not count? We could be here all day again we have bern over this a few times!

Well I speak about the troubles era as I’ve lived it and it’s the most relevant time when speaking about the conflict as a whole. I can’t relate to the 1920′s or the 1600′s as well because we wernt there, we can only read about it in books. Also the troubles still has its mark firmly left on NI even though it’s supposed to be long over.

@Glen et al- Perhaps Ali Salim,well known expert on Palestine has a better explanation….
” Attempting to fool the leaders of the Christian West and weaken Israel, the Islamists sugarcoat the real situation and tell the Christians that all they have to do is solve the Palestinian problem. Once that has happened, the artificial Jewish existence in Palestine will come to an end, the entire Middle East will metamorphose into paradise and blossom, and everyone will live in harmony forever. Unfortunately, many Europeans have swallowed this tale whole. In the meantime, however, when not speaking to the West and telling each other the truth, the Islamists repeat the ancient adage, “We will begin on Saturday and finish on Sunday,” that is, first we will get rid of the Jews and then we will get rid of the Christians — as we are seeing now in Nigeria, Iraq and especially Egypt.”
See whole article: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3943/begin-saturday-finish-sunday

@Antrim, Your words and the ratio of victims just don’t equate.
Those guys we saw on TV looked well trained, surely if they were singling out the people of Jewish faith, the figures would read in reverse? As far as I have seen their targets are all of Western society, therefore I believe we all deserve to be treated to protection equally.

@PaddyO’Connor, Ali Salim? Well known? Expert?
I’ve just googled that name it threw up one article, and two possibilities, either a doctor in Ohio or an ornithologist?
Could you please let us know where this man is accredited? What university he studied? etc.
There’s a lot of so called experts around Paddy, I’m sure you might have heard about the fellow on Fox news during the week, who also claimed to be an “expert”. That guy reckoned Birmingham was a no go area for non Muslims.

It’s easy to look well trained when you are gunning down unarmed people with an AK, they wernt that well trained when up against armed men themselves.

The point here is that the magazine was attacked because of its content, anybody in that building that day would have been shot regardless if they were Christian, Muslim or whatever. The store was attacked primarily because it was Jewish, they knew who they were going to kill.

@Yip follow link in comment and go from there

@Yip —- for your further info Fox news commentator was Steven Emerson-
Emerson was once considered a leading authority on Middle Eastern terrorism, serving as a CNN commentator in the early 1990s, and producing an award-winning PBS documentary, Terrorism Among Us: Jihad in America.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1748915/steven-emerson-issues-apology/#JvtBHBuxRizzeh46.99
Emerson also claimed that Birmingham was so completely dominated by presumably hostile Muslims that “non-Muslims just simply don’t go in.” In fact, Emerson said that Birmingham was just one of what he implied were numerous “actual cities” to have come under Islamic rule.

Emerson quickly apologized, and took full responsibility for what he called his “terrible error,” even announcing his intention to make a charitable donation to an unspecified group in Birmingham.

“I do not intend to justify or mitigate my mistake by stating that I had relied on other sources because I should have been much more careful,” Emerson continued.

But what Emerson did not say is how it was possible in the first place for him to make an “error” of such extraordinary proportions.

To be fair to Fox News gaffe-master Steve Emerson, this is a proper unreserved apology. A rare thing these days. pic.twitter.com/iyzUtONyud
Steven also made a charitable donation to a Birm. Children’s Hospital.

@PaddyOConnor,
Thanks I have followed that link and all that I can find on Mr. Salim is the following…
There are a list of articles he has written dating back only one year.
I have read through some of those and I can’t see any reference points.
On a search of the gentleman himself, all I get is the following:
“Ali Salim is a scholar based in the Middle East.”…
I do not see any affiliation to any university, I don’t see any reference to where he got his degree?
Where does he lecture,? What is he a scholar of?
Where has he been published? What books has he written? etc.
What I am looking for is say, for instance the likes of Professor Ilan Pappe.
A quick google search of his name and you find out very quickly that.
He is an Israeli historian, professor with the University of Exeter, prior to going to the UK he was senior lecturer in political science at the University of Haifa and so on.
You also see a list of his written works / books etc.
Same with Professor Noam Chomsky (Prof at MIT) and Professor Norman Finkelstein.etc.
This is the kind of thing I was looking for.
With regard to Steven Emerson, I appreciate you have faith in him, however
I think I’ll stick with David Cameron’s assessment of the man whom he said “ Is obviously a complete idiot.” (David Cameron’s words not mine)
What self respecting “expert” appears on a national TV station without checking his sources and the validity of his statements.
There is absolutely no excuse for that, and yes I have indeed seen the entire show and the apology.
I actually only mentioned that mans to demonstrate the fact that many people can claim to be an “expert” . I like to see the proof of that with credentials, before I invest my time and energy into their writings.

@Antrim, not sure if your aware of the reports from a wide variety of sources but this one is from Reuters.
(Reuters) – Both brothers who carried out the attack against satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo traveled to Yemen via Oman in 2011 and had weapons training in the deserts of Marib, where al Qaeda has a presence, two senior Yemeni sources said on Sunday.

Sharon, can ypu provide us with the sources of your informatoon please? Thanks.

Different Frank, same as the old Frank.

@ Jason : please explain.